Heath Miller (1 Viewer)

[prgromek]

the guy just keeps producing this year.

I don't see any reason why it won't continue

 

[need2know]

love to hear some more thoughts on miller. it seems he is actually a big part of the offense every week unlike years past when he would disappear alot. will this continue?

 

[lsutigers]

I kept wanting to cut him thinking the TD's were an anomaly (see Chandler).

I am a believer. The past few years, the talent was there but the scheme did not seem to favor him, even in the red zone. Even with o-line beat up, he doesn't seem to just be an inline blocker like Dallas was doing with Witten.

 

[Maven]

lol no hes not elite, just stop it.

 

[just_want_2_win]

I kept wanting to cut him thinking the TD's were an anomaly (see Chandler).

I am a believer. The past few years, the talent was there but the scheme did not seem to favor him, even in the red zone. Even with o-line beat up, he doesn't seem to just be an inline blocker like Dallas was doing with Witten.

I've had trouble this year at TE with the likes of Gates (injury, slow start), Pitta (fast start, fade), Cook (feast/famine), and Graham (injury) and dismissed Miller early on. I did so because I felt I had seen this sort of teasing from him before. Then somewhere I saw the quote about the team making an effort to get Miller to the Pro Bowl. By the time I saw that quote, it was too late, he was off the wire. If I had been less biased, I'd have looked into him more. Lesson learned. (I also botched Santana Moss, who was grabbed just two weeks ago.) I think Miller will continue to post good numbers -- he's a key component of their offensive game plan. Good thing for a TE on a team like the Steelers that chucks the ball a lot.

 

[Furious Styles]

Haley is a dink and dunk OC, as a result Miller is more involved in the offense.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Haley is a dink and dunk OC, as a result Miller is more involved in the offense.

Big Ben recently complained about that very fact:

Asked if the Steelers can get more big plays offensively, Roethlisberger suggested that big plays are going to be hard to come by with the way Haley runs the show.“Haley’s offense is not a big-play offense,” Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “It’s kind of a dink-and-dunk offense.”Roethlisberger noted that the Steelers got a big play in Tennessee when he threw an 82-yard touchdown pass to Mike Wallace, but that Haley didn’t call any more deep balls to Wallace after that.“There’s a guy calling the plays. That’s on him,” Roethlisberger said.If the quarterback and the guy calling the plays aren’t on the same page, that’s a problem for the Steelers.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/21/ben-roethlisberger-todd-haleys-offense-is-dink-and-dunk/

 

[metoo]

Ben said he wanted to get Miller to the pro bowl, I expect this trend to continue.

 

[Clorox]

Haley is a dink and dunk OC, as a result Miller is more involved in the offense.

 

[sdp1226]

Ben said he wanted to get Miller to the pro bowl, I expect this trend to continue.

It seems like Ben really has tried to force the ball to him in the RZ even when double covered.

 

[HMKRich]

By the time the 1 o'clock games were over, I'd wrapped up the win in my h2h matchup, but since each week's high scorer gets cash, I decided to go with high upside, and dropped Heath for Jermaine Gresham. After all, with the injuries along Pittsburgh's o-line, Miller will have to stay in and block, right?

 

[FF Ninja]

lol no hes not elite, just stop it.

Waldman has always been really high on Heath's talent level, citing the situation has simply kept him down. I don't see that as a stretch. He's #3 in PPG this year (standard scoring). #2 in PPR. I doubt he finishes the year there, but it wouldn't shock me. Tony G likely won't finish as #1, though.

 

[Wadsworth]

Heath Miller has the talent to be elite, but his ability as a blocker and the scheme have limited his fantasy production. The guy is one of the best overall real NFL TEs out there and has a lot more fantasy potential than most seem to realize.

 

[yoadrian]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

 

[TarheelBlue]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

Other than Gronk and Gonzales, who is elite if Heath is not, especially in PPR formats where his higher volume (though lower YPC) of receptions is more valuable? Obviously, and uninjured Graham would be. But who else? Maybe Witten? Davis if he had a better QB. But just looking through my league TE ranks, he looks to be pretty elite.

 

[steveski]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

Other than Gronk and Gonzales, who is elite if Heath is not, especially in PPR formats where his higher volume (though lower YPC) of receptions is more valuable? Obviously, and uninjured Graham would be. But who else? Maybe Witten? Davis if he had a better QB. But just looking through my league TE ranks, he looks to be pretty elite.

Agreed. Without thinking it through, it's easy to dismiss Heath. Whether he is "elite" or not is questionable because there is no clear benchmark for elite. Right now, there are only a few TE's that I'd prefer over him.

 

[need2know]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

Other than Gronk and Gonzales, who is elite if Heath is not, especially in PPR formats where his higher volume (though lower YPC) of receptions is more valuable? Obviously, and uninjured Graham would be. But who else? Maybe Witten? Davis if he had a better QB. But just looking through my league TE ranks, he looks to be pretty elite.

Agreed. Without thinking it through, it's easy to dismiss Heath. Whether he is "elite" or not is questionable because there is no clear benchmark for elite. Right now, there are only a few TE's that I'd prefer over him.

i have miller and Graham on one team. thinking about playing miller until i see graham come back and have a good game

 

[Nucker101]

Haley is a dink and dunk OC, as a result Miller is more involved in the offense.

Exactly, and Brown is basically the #1 WR in this offense whilr Wallace is limited. It makes some sense with the Steelers mediocre O-Line, but one of Ben's greatest strengths is the ability to extend plays. I'd like too see more deep passes for Wallace and Sanders and let Miller and Brown work the middle and underneath stuff.I doubt that happens though, and I expect Brown to continue to be a solid WR2, especially in PPR leagues. I think Wallace's TD rate during the first few weeks will start to regress. Miller should continue to be a top 5 TE in PPR leagues.

 

[matuski]

he's no Martellus Bennet

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

Other than Gronk and Gonzales, who is elite if Heath is not, especially in PPR formats where his higher volume (though lower YPC) of receptions is more valuable? Obviously, and uninjured Graham would be. But who else? Maybe Witten? Davis if he had a better QB. But just looking through my league TE ranks, he looks to be pretty elite.

Agreed. Without thinking it through, it's easy to dismiss Heath. Whether he is "elite" or not is questionable because there is no clear benchmark for elite. Right now, there are only a few TE's that I'd prefer over him.

i have miller and Graham on one team. thinking about playing miller until i see graham come back and have a good game

in the same boat, and going with the same strategy.In the league I have him in (PPR, yardage/reception heavy) , Miller has ranked:week 1: 10th TEweek 2: 4th TEweek 3: 1st TEweek 4: 6th TEweek 5: byeweek 6: 8th TEweek 7: 3rd TEand he's currently the 4th TE overall for the season, with 2 of the 3 TEs above him yet to have their bye. In a year with muddled but deep TE production, Miller has been a rock of consistency. Pretty much I completely regret drafting Graham over a number of great WR 1s when Miller was available on the WW, and has been as consistent as Graham when Graham was healthy, and more so since Graham has been out.

 

[Borat]

Some of you really struggle with the word "elite."

 

[Chazzhawk]

Some of you really struggle with the word "elite."

He is an elite tight end just not an elite fantasy tight end

 

[FF Ninja]

Miller plays like 100% snaps or close to it. He runs good routes, comes with his experience. Even though they are hurting on the OL, they still get him out for routes and targets. He's an ideal tight end to have, but elite he is not. Difference between now and last year, he gets a ton of red zone love.

Other than Gronk and Gonzales, who is elite if Heath is not, especially in PPR formats where his higher volume (though lower YPC) of receptions is more valuable? Obviously, and uninjured Graham would be. But who else? Maybe Witten? Davis if he had a better QB. But just looking through my league TE ranks, he looks to be pretty elite.

Gates looked pretty good on MNF. I guess we'll see if he comes out strong after the bye week. I wouldn't rule him out as a possible player to pass up Heath in fantasy points this year. And I like Heath.

 

[ldizzle]

so can we expect a huge day with the kind of weather they have? he has been dink and dunk. this feels like a dink and dunk kind of game...

 

[bb7278]

#3 TE in fantasy points, he is as steady as they come this year.

 

[Bobby Guano]

Been starting him over Gates since week 4 and he has saved my butt @ TE.

I don't think he's eleite but he's probably gonna finnish a top 5 TE this year. Great deal for those lucky enough to scoop him up off the WW(NOBODY was talking about Heath's breakout potential preseason LOL).

 

[Jewell]

If we're talking about real life and not fantasy, and we're taking into account both blocking and receiving -- then, yes, Heath Miller is among the best all-around tight ends in the NFL.

 

[pizzatyme]

I'm just happy for Heath. He has always had talent. His past results were a result of opportunities.

Just goes to show how talent is wasted without opportunity.

 

[stronger88]

Guess who's leading the league in redzone targets?

 

[cstu]

I recently traded for Miller after reading that he didn't need surgery on his PCL (a longer rehab) and will let it heal on its own. The odds are pretty low that he'll be ready to start the season but with the way players are recovering from injuries I thought he's worth a shot. There's a good chance the Steelers draft Eifert but if they don't it will be a good sign for Miller.

 

[TheFanatic]

Ben said he wanted to get Miller to the pro bowl, I expect this trend to continue.

I heard that quote and read something like they were good friends and traded for him right away. I traded VD for him so it worked out real well for me on both sides (VD tanking after Kaep took over).