Heather, of "Heather has two mommies" comes out against Gay Ma (1 Viewer)

[badmojo1006]

Her logic is really twisted. Gut feeling, she found religion and needs to reject her two loving parents

 

[jon_mx]

Her logic is really twisted. Gut feeling, she found religion and needs to reject her two loving parents

And your pulling assumptions/accusations out of your rear end to attack her motives is not twisted?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

He adds that Barwick’s pain over the absence of a father “who chose not to be in the picture” and her conclusion to not support gay marriage represent two distinct issues, and that her connection of the two is “such a non-sequitur.”

Well...yeah.

 

[McGarnicle]

Reminds me of that time Apollo Creed called Martin Luther King a "fraud" and an "off-brand ".

 

[mr roboto]

Huh. Either way you believe it's interesting.

 

[jon_mx]

Her logic is really twisted. Gut feeling, she found religion and needs to reject her two loving parents

She says, "I love you, so much." You interpret that as 'reject her two loving parents'. Interesting spin.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This is kind of like when Roe of Roe vs Wade came out against abortion (using her real name of course...)

 

[jonessed]

Her logic is really twisted. Gut feeling, she found religion and needs to reject her two loving parents

Her logic doesnt seem to be twisted and she's not rejecting her parents at all. Did you even read the article?

 

[cstu]

'My daddy didn't care about me so I'm going to blame gay marriage.'

What a selfish little #####.

 

[cstu]

My father’s absence created a huge hole in me, and I ached every day for a dad. I loved my mom’s partner, but another mom could never have replaced the father I lost.”

A step-dad wouldn't have replaced the father you lost either, idiot.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Yeah but what does the girl from "My Two Dads" think?

 

[MaxThreshold]

My father’s absence created a huge hole in me, and I ached every day for a dad. I loved my mom’s partner, but another mom could never have replaced the father I lost.”

A step-dad wouldn't have replaced the father you lost either, idiot.

I think she's saying that a male presence in the family unit can't be replaced with a woman (as much as the feminists try to tell you otherwise).

 

[MaxThreshold]

Yeah but what does the girl from "My Two Dads" think?

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[Cjw_55106]

I really tried hard to care what she thinks. Turns out, I really don't.

 

[trogg78]

We own that book. It's a good read.

 

[the moops]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

 

[Plorfu]

This anecdote has changed everything.

 

[jon_mx]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

 

[Fennis]

She's cute.

 

[Harry Manback]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

That's what Jon does.

 

[jon_mx]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

The idea that sexuality is an either/or question is a huge fallacy. Kinsey made a scale and believed no one was either totally gay or straight. Sexuality changes with experiences. The idea that sexuality is hard-wires/determined at birth is even more bizarre.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

That's what Jon does.

(and this coming from the guy who's name is "Harry Manback")

 

[McGarnicle]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

The idea that sexuality is an either/or question is a huge fallacy. Kinsley made a scale and believed no one was either totally gay or straight. Sexuality changes with experiences. The idea that sexuality is hard-wires/determined at birth is even more bizarre.

Wrong, the scale runs from completely gay to completely straight with gradations in between.

 

[squistion]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

So she should just keep pretending to be straight? Seems like a recipe for success and a happy life.

The idea that sexuality is an either/or question is a huge fallacy. Kinsley made a scale and believed no one was either totally gay or straight. Sexuality changes with experiences. The idea that sexuality is hard-wires/determined at birth is even more bizarre.

Wrong, the scale runs from completely gay to completely straight with gradations in between.

Another good example of why he is called wrong_mx.

 

[General Malaise]

She's cute.

Sure, if you don't mind your pets boiled or your phone to ring 800 times per day. Same girl?

 

[Scoresman]

Would #### the bigotry right out of her.

 

[jon_mx]

Another good example of why he is called wrong_mx.

Actually an excellent example in fact why haters call me that. McGarnicle was correct in that the scale does go from competely straight to completely gay, but he wrongly inserts that makes my statement wrong. Kinsey did not believe in lables like homosexual/hetrosexual and that was the point of his scale. Although by putting numbers on his scale, people have misinterpreted, like McGarnicle, into labling people 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6. That is the exact opposite of what Kinsey point was. Here is an excerpt from Kinsey:

“Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats…The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects."

The key word is 'continuum', Kinsey believe all people were different. No body was actually a 0 on his scale, but fit somewhere within 0-1.

ETA: Here is an article describing his belief:

As to the origins of homosexual behaviors, Kinsey, like Freud, felt that all persons are born bisexual and one's sexual activities and pleasures depend on a wide variety of causes. Countless studies convinced him that any strong emotion can trigger sexual arousal.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Isn't Kinsey the dude who circumcised himself sans anesthesia? If so, I'm going to refrain from taking anything he said as gospel since his decision-making may not have always been the best. Just sayin'

 

[Fennis]

She's cute.

Sure, if you don't mind your pets boiled or your phone to ring 800 times per day. Same girl?

I like my women like I like my insane asylums. Full of crazy.

 

[jon_mx]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

Nice strawman.

 

[Fennis]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

Nice strawman.

That is literally her argument.

Dear Gay Community: Your Kids Are Hurting

 

[jon_mx]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

Nice strawman.

That is literally her argument.

Dear Gay Community: Your Kids Are Hurting

She does not say that. It may be a conslusion you can speculate on, but she never said that gays should not have children. She said the kids in situations without a mother and father are missing somethiing and are hurting. So literally? No.

 

[Thorn]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Somehow she only discovered this gaydom from sleeping with men for years.

 

[Harry Manback]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

Nice strawman.

That is literally her argument.

Dear Gay Community: Your Kids Are Hurting

She does not say that. It may be a conslusion you can speculate on, but she never said that gays should not have children. She said the kids in situations without a mother and father are missing somethiing and are hurting. So literally? No.

Seriously?

 

[Clifford]

Her logic is really twisted. Gut feeling, she found religion and needs to reject her two loving parents

And your pulling assumptions/accusations out of your rear end to attack her motives is not twisted?

Ummm

Photo via Women of Grace.

 

[Clifford]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Problem is there is no lez equivalent of faghag to provide the male presence. Get out there and friend some dudes ladies.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Any updates on Heather from I Deep Throat

 

[Scoresman]

Any updates on Heather from I Deep Throat

still likes ####

 

[jonessed]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

It's a pretty extensive article and she is quite clear. Why is there a need to pretend she means something she isn't saying?

 

[Fennis]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

It's a pretty extensive article and she is quite clear. Why is there a need to pretend she means something she isn't saying?

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

It's a pretty extensive article and she is quite clear. Why is there a need to pretend she means something she isn't saying?

"Children Need a Mother and Father"

"And it’s only now, as I watch my children loving and being loved by their father each day, that I can see the beauty and wisdom in traditional marriage and parenting."

"Same-sex marriage and parenting withholds either a mother or father from a child while telling him or her that it doesn’t matter. That it’s all the same. But it’s not"

 

[joffer]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

Nice strawman.

That is literally her argument.

Dear Gay Community: Your Kids Are Hurting

She does not say that. It may be a conslusion you can speculate on, but she never said that gays should not have children. She said the kids in situations without a mother and father are missing somethiing and are hurting. So literally? No.

Seriously?

im afraid so

 

[jonessed]

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

It's a pretty extensive article and she is quite clear. Why is there a need to pretend she means something she isn't saying?

My nephew's mom is m.i.a.... and my brother is hetero and married to another woman.

How is this any different?

FWIW, I'm raising my daughter with my partner. She has no father. What Heather really means is gay and lesbians should not have children. She stops short however, of saying this because many children would not be here today (possibly even her) if it were for that response.

It's a pretty extensive article and she is quite clear. Why is there a need to pretend she means something she isn't saying?

"Children Need a Mother and Father"

"And its only now, as I watch my children loving and being loved by their father each day, that I can see the beauty and wisdom in traditional marriage and parenting."

"Same-sex marriage and parenting withholds either a mother or father from a child while telling him or her that it doesnt matter. That its all the same. But its not"

Exactly. There is no need try and extrapolate it into something that isn't there.

 

[mr roboto]

So her main complaint seems to be that 'telling kids it's just as good to have 2 mommies or daddies as it is to have one of each' is not true. Is that her main point?

 

[mr roboto]

Here's a passage from her letter...

I grew up surrounded by women who said they didnt need or want a man. Yet, as a little girl, I so desperately wanted a daddy. It is a strange and confusing thing to walk around with this deep-down unquenchable ache for a father, for a man, in a community that says that men are unnecessary. There were times I felt so angry with my dad for not being there for me, and then times I felt angry with myself for even wanting a father to begin with. There are parts of me that still grieve over that loss today.

Im not saying that you cant be good parents. You can. I had one of the best. Im also not saying that being raised by straight parents means everything will turn out okay. We know there are so many different ways that the family unit can break down and cause kids to suffer: divorce, abandonment, infidelity, abuse, death, etc. But by and large, the best and most successful family structure is one in which kids are being raised by both their mother and father.

Interesting that a kid who lost her dad had adult women telling her and one another that they didn't need men. I could see how that would be very difficult for her as a kid. But aren't alot of kids of gay couples ONLY aware of having 2 mommies or daddies (ie they weren't 'abandoned' like the author of the article)?

I have always believed that a loving mom and dad raising kids is best. I've also supported gay couples' right to have and raise kids. Is that incongruous?

 

[cstu]

She had a "deep-down unquenchable ache for" the parent who rejected her, not because he was a man.

 

[cstu]

Would she have preferred to be raised by a single mom? Seems that was the only alternative considering, you know, that her mom was gay.

Problem is there is no lez equivalent of faghag to provide the male presence. Get out there and friend some dudes ladies.

Should start "Free Beer on NFL Sundays at a Lesbians House" campaign.

 

[Pots]

I can't guess OP's stance on the subject. It's so unbiased.

 

[Jayrod]

I think a big part of her situation is born out of the insistence by these women that none of them needs a man. And it is damaging trying to tell a child that they can do without the opposite gender. Half of the world's population is the opposite gender. The vast majority of the population seeks romance with the opposite gender. Teaching a child those things is self-serving and not in the best interest of the child.

 

[Jayrod]

She had a "deep-down unquenchable ache for" the parent who rejected her, not because he was a man.

She had two parents. She longed for a daddy. Unless you have a daughter, you have no idea. Its different. Every father of a daughter I know knows it. I'm a man, so I don't know what its like from the daughter's perspective, but its not the same as with a mother. Genders are different in both physiology and psychology. To insist that it doesn't matter is head in the sand thinking.