Heidi Klum Indian pics draw ire (1 Viewer)

[TheIronSheik]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

 

[Fennis]

I'd play cowboys and Indians with her

 

[T Bell]

You want to know why I earned it? Because my people wiped your little hunter-gatherer civilization off of the ####### map, and we did it with blankets!

Spoiler

Wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa!

 

[avoiding injuries]

There's going to be a turning point with this soon. It's getting out of control how offensive everything is.

 

[TheIronSheik]

There's going to be a turning point with this soon. It's getting out of control how offensive everything is.

:REPORTED:

 

[Clifford]

Many say the pictures promote stereotypes and are culturally insensitive.

Many = bored liberal bloggers with nothing else to write about because they are ####### idiots.

 

[Tom Servo]

Dear Heidi --

We agree with you. There's nothing wrong with your costume.

Sincerely,

Chief Wahoo

The Washington Redskins

 

[Parrothead]

I'd tomahawk her long time

 

[TheIronSheik]

I think this Fall, I'm going to start a campaign to get Army uniform costumes removed from shelves. Those ####### kids didn't earn those chevrons and epaulets.

 

[Fennis]

I'd tomahawk her long time

She can smoke my peace pipe

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

So they're saying she should take it off? I don't normally go along with lewd requests for women to get naked. But in this case -- it's the Native Americans. They've suffered enough.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

When I saw that picture on SI yesterday, I wondered if somebody out there somewhere would exhibit some fake outrage. Good to know the internet didn't let me down.

 

[dozer]

HI-HOW-ARE-YA-HI-HOW-ARE-YA

 

[T Bell]

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[ClownCausedChaos2]

She's oddly attractive.

 

[Sweet Love]

Somewhere the Executives at Burger King HQs are meeting to discuss the possible backlash from royal families across the globe, due to the restaurant chain's distribution of crowns to commoners, as those individuals who don the cardboard wonder have no right to wear it.

 

[siffoin]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

 

[mquinnjr]

Many say the pictures promote stereotypes and are culturally insensitive.

Many = bored liberal bloggers with nothing else to write about because they are ####### idiots.

Nail on the head.

 

[TheIronSheik]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

Not sure that's the same thing.

 

[mquinnjr]

When I saw that picture on SI yesterday, I wondered if somebody out there somewhere would exhibit some fake outrage. Good to know the internet didn't let me down.

The internet, in this respect, I liken to Bud Light. "Will never fill you up, and never let you down."

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical Indian garb, theyre not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, theyre mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage. Shea also said, I dont care how cute you look in a headdress. You arent Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You havent performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

Google Image search came up empty.

Thanks for nothin'.

 

[T Bell]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

So you're saying that a commonly awarded decoration indicating military and social stature with tribal cultures is the same thing as an image depicting the crucifixion of a messianic figure?

This is more akin to Heidi Klum getting dressed up in a general's uniform and sporting a Medal of Honor, and while a few would piss and moan about it, just as many people wouldn't give a #### as they do about her "Indian" costume.

 

[D-Day]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

To the bolded part... So, whoever (Native or Import) wears a headdress today needs to keep their transcripts handy showing how they performed deeds of valor, bravery & self sacrifice?

 

[siffoin]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

So you're saying that a commonly awarded decoration indicating military and social stature with tribal cultures is the same thing as an image depicting the crucifixion of a messianic figure?

This is more akin to Heidi Klum getting dressed up in a general's uniform and sporting a Medal of Honor, and while a few would piss and moan about it, just as many people wouldn't give a #### as they do about her "Indian" costume.

For Native Americans the headdress has more meaning than than a generals star. So what I'm saying people get upset when their cultural/religious symbols are desecrated. It's called a cultural universal.

And I can understand why some Native Americans would think they are being disrespected.

 

[TheIronSheik]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

To the bolded part... So, whoever (Native or Import) wears a headdress today needs to keep their transcripts handy showing how they performed deeds of valor, bravery & self sacrifice?

Right. No matter how cute they look.

 

[Otis]

And HOW.

 

[Parrothead]

me eatum maize from her poop

 

[IvanKaramazov]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

So you're saying that a commonly awarded decoration indicating military and social stature with tribal cultures is the same thing as an image depicting the crucifixion of a messianic figure?

This is more akin to Heidi Klum getting dressed up in a general's uniform and sporting a Medal of Honor, and while a few would piss and moan about it, just as many people wouldn't give a #### as they do about her "Indian" costume.

For Native Americans the headdress has more meaning than than a generals star. So what I'm saying people get upset when their cultural/religious symbols are desecrated. It's called a cultural universal.

And I can understand why some Native Americans would think they are being disrespected.

"I can understand why someone might feel that way" isn't the same as "someone is right to feel that way." Klum is not attempting to pass herself off as an authentic Indian warrior. She's dressing up in the equivalent of a Halloween costume. This isn't the intellectual property of Indian tribes individually or collectively -- it's part of our shared cultural heritage as North Americans.

The analogy to somebody dressing up in a military uniform is exactly right. If somebody had a problem with that, we'd have no problem telling them to #### off even if we never served in the military ourselves.

 

[Cjw_55106]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

what if she participated in the airing of grievances and excelled at feats of strength?

 

[shadyridr]

Poke-a-Hot-###

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I'd wampum.

 

[Da Guru]

So they're saying she should take it off? I don't normally go along with lewd requests for women to get naked. But in this case -- it's the Native Americans. They've suffered enough.

That might be so but when stuff like this is gone and the Redskins change their name many people will ever remember that Indians even existed. Why not be progressive with pictures like this, why not be progressive and take the Redskins name turn it around and use it as a source of power and pride. Use it to benefit all Indians. Instead all will disappear including the memory of Indians. I am pretty sure I have heard all slurs but have yet to hear anyone refer to an Indian as a Redskin as a slur.

 

[Rattle and Hum]

:TotemPole:

 

[siffoin]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

So you're saying that a commonly awarded decoration indicating military and social stature with tribal cultures is the same thing as an image depicting the crucifixion of a messianic figure?

This is more akin to Heidi Klum getting dressed up in a general's uniform and sporting a Medal of Honor, and while a few would piss and moan about it, just as many people wouldn't give a #### as they do about her "Indian" costume.

For Native Americans the headdress has more meaning than than a generals star. So what I'm saying people get upset when their cultural/religious symbols are desecrated. It's called a cultural universal.

And I can understand why some Native Americans would think they are being disrespected.

"I can understand why someone might feel that way" isn't the same as "someone is right to feel that way." Klum is not attempting to pass herself off as an authentic Indian warrior. She's dressing up in the equivalent of a Halloween costume. This isn't the intellectual property of Indian tribes individually or collectively -- it's part of our shared cultural heritage as North Americans.

The analogy to somebody dressing up in a military uniform is exactly right. If somebody had a problem with that, we'd have no problem telling them to #### off even if we never served in the military ourselves.

I personally am not offended. I just can understand why some Native Americans would be. Cultural perspective is not one sided. For example: it should be easy to understand why Jews might have a different perspective on their shared cultural heritage with Germans.

It's a big world. I'd like to think people would be more understanding towards others and their perspective - I also know it is far easier to just minimize and make fun of them instead.

 

[Fennis]

So they're saying she should take it off? I don't normally go along with lewd requests for women to get naked. But in this case -- it's the Native Americans. They've suffered enough.

That might be so but when stuff like this is gone and the Redskins change their name nobody will ever remember that Indians even existed. Why not be progressive with pictures like this, why not be progressive and take the Redskins name turn it around and use it as a source of power and pride. Use it to benefit all Indians. Instead all will disappear including the memory of Indians. I am pretty sure I have heard all slurs but have yet to hear anyone refer to an Indian as a Redskin as a slur.

The only thing that keeps you remembering that Indians exist is the name of a football team?

 

[McGarnicle]

She gives me a tepee in my pants.

 

[Parrothead]

So they're saying she should take it off? I don't normally go along with lewd requests for women to get naked. But in this case -- it's the Native Americans. They've suffered enough.

That might be so but when stuff like this is gone and the Redskins change their name nobody will ever remember that Indians even existed. Why not be progressive with pictures like this, why not be progressive and take the Redskins name turn it around and use it as a source of power and pride. Use it to benefit all Indians. Instead all will disappear including the memory of Indians. I am pretty sure I have heard all slurs but have yet to hear anyone refer to an Indian as a Redskin as a slur.

The only thing that keeps you remembering that Indians exist is the name of a football team?

and casinos

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

She gives me a tepee in my pants.

A peepee teepee?

 

[Parrothead]

As they say in Cherokee- "I'd Agi'a that"

 

[Da Guru]

So they're saying she should take it off? I don't normally go along with lewd requests for women to get naked. But in this case -- it's the Native Americans. They've suffered enough.

That might be so but when stuff like this is gone and the Redskins change their name many people will ever remember that Indians even existed. Why not be progressive with pictures like this, why not be progressive and take the Redskins name turn it around and use it as a source of power and pride. Use it to benefit all Indians. Instead all will disappear including the memory of Indians. I am pretty sure I have heard all slurs but have yet to hear anyone refer to an Indian as a Redskin as a slur.

The only thing that keeps you remembering that Indians exist is the name of a football team?

Not me personally. Big Tonto fan here...

 

[IvanKaramazov]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

Native American headdress is a very important symbol. I can understand a Native American seeing this as a form of disrespect. In the same vein, I think there would be significant outrage from Christians if we had Heidi Klum scantily clad in a bikini wearing bunny ears and photographed being "nailed" on a Christian cross titled "Easter Bunny"

So you're saying that a commonly awarded decoration indicating military and social stature with tribal cultures is the same thing as an image depicting the crucifixion of a messianic figure?

This is more akin to Heidi Klum getting dressed up in a general's uniform and sporting a Medal of Honor, and while a few would piss and moan about it, just as many people wouldn't give a #### as they do about her "Indian" costume.

For Native Americans the headdress has more meaning than than a generals star. So what I'm saying people get upset when their cultural/religious symbols are desecrated. It's called a cultural universal.

And I can understand why some Native Americans would think they are being disrespected.

"I can understand why someone might feel that way" isn't the same as "someone is right to feel that way." Klum is not attempting to pass herself off as an authentic Indian warrior. She's dressing up in the equivalent of a Halloween costume. This isn't the intellectual property of Indian tribes individually or collectively -- it's part of our shared cultural heritage as North Americans.

The analogy to somebody dressing up in a military uniform is exactly right. If somebody had a problem with that, we'd have no problem telling them to #### off even if we never served in the military ourselves.

I personally am not offended. I just can understand why some Native Americans would be. Cultural perspective is not one sided. For example: it should be easy to understand why Jews might have a different perspective on their shared cultural heritage with Germans.

It's a big world. I'd like to think people would be more understanding towards others and their perspective - I also know it is far easier to just minimize and make fun of them instead.

It's easy to understand, but that doesn't make it right. Jews and Germans (and everybody else) ought to be able to agree that the Holocaust was a bad thing, for example. If a German said that the Holocaust was no big deal because "German heritage something-something," he'd be wrong.

Similarly, everybody ought to be able to agree that dressing up in "traditional" Indian garb is fine. Presumably modern-day Indians occasionally wear European-style clothing without anybody taking offense.

As a general principle, when somebody says "Hey, I take offense at you dressing up like my ancestors," a good response is "So what? They're my ancestors too. Kindly pound sand."

 

[SWC]

here in german milwaukee we have a saying and that saying is that no one in the world gets to say anything bad about heidi klum because she is the bees knees take that to the bank brohans but just so it is said i think the washington teams name is crap and a slur and should be changed so hey a little something for everyone from the old swcer today

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'd like to poke a Pocahontas in her wigwam tonight.

 

[skol asylum]

I am far more offended from the term brohans.

 

[jon_mx]

Are we talking feather or dot?

 

[DiStefano]

I'm fine with this as long as Native Americans don't wear European type clothing. If they do, they are mocking their conquerors, and they should be shamed into returning to their native roots. But if they wear European type clothing, they should shut up.

 

[NCCommish]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

To you perhaps. Not to the natives who see their rituals and honors cheapened again by a society that went all genocide on them.

 

[Deepster]

Very interesting.

A couple months ago there was a thread discussing why/how fried chicken was racist. When points were raised about America being too overly sensitive nowadays, that was met with a lot of support for not being sensitive enough.

Then you have this thread where people openly mock the Native Americans and it's somehow okay.

*shrugs*

 

[TheIronSheik]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

To you perhaps. Not to the natives who see their rituals and honors cheapened again by a society that went all genocide on them.

That's what the Indians get for letting the Germans go all genocide on them.

 

[NCCommish]

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This is ridiculous. Are we not allowed to dress up anymore?

She added, “Natives are not costumes one can take on and off. When people dress up in stereotypical ‘Indian’ garb, they’re not only denying the existence of 566 distinct Tribal Nations, they’re mocking an entire group of human beings based solely on their race and heritage.” Shea also said, “I don’t care how cute you look in a headdress. You aren’t Native. You have no right to wear a warbonnet because you have not earned it. You haven’t performed deeds of valor nor fought and given of yourself for a plains Tribal people. Every feather in a headdress signifies a specific act of bravery and self-sacrifice.”

What a joke.

To you perhaps. Not to the natives who see their rituals and honors cheapened again by a society that went all genocide on them.

That's what the Indians get for letting the Germans go all genocide on them.

Maybe Heidi could do a shoot where she dresses up as a sexy Dachua inmate.