HELP: How to do the transition to 2 QBs? (1 Viewer)

[fridayfrenzy]

Well, our league voted and it was unanimously passed that we will have a 2Qb/Flex roster spot.

I need help in transitioning the rule on the QB keepers. Our keeper rule is that each year the keeper is N-1 the year before. If Player A was drafted in the 7th round, then he will be the 6th round pick nextyear if kept.

I.E. Carson Palmer is a 12th round keeper under our "old" rules. If we were to just put the 2QB system in place, then Carson's value would jump by a large margin, but his keeper value would stay the same.

Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to transition this rule to make it fair for those with and without QB keepers?

The rule goes into effect next season, so what do we do for QBs being drafted this year and being kept. QBs drafted under the "old" rule this year at their ADP will still possess huge value next year if we do not have some sort of rule.

 

[Z-Dog]

There is no way to change rules in mid-stream and make it fair. I say just don't let anyone keep QBs this year.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

There is no way to change rules in mid-stream and make it fair. I say just don't let anyone keep QBs this year.

This year, but howabout those that currently have QB keepers?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How long can you keep players at their original draft slot?

Until the 4th round. All players drafted in the first three rounds may not be kept.

 

[thayman]

I think it will be fine. It might be a little off next year, but after that it should even out.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I think it will be fine. It might be a little off next year, but after that it should even out.

It won't be fine.If someone has drafted a QB at their ADP in the current rules, then their keeper value would be significantly better if you go to a 2QB setup where they are being drafted in the 3rd round.

Due to the rule change, they just went up like 5 rounds in value.

Keeper status : 12th round

Old rules: 8th round ADP

New rules: 3rd round ADP

Owners with QB keepers should not be given this advantage.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How long can you keep players at their original draft slot?

Until the 4th round. All players drafted in the first three rounds may not be kept.

What is which players are eligible to keep?Say I drafted Steve Smith in the 5th last year. How long can I keep him for a 5th round pick?

Not once. If you drafted him in the 6th, then he would be your 5th round pick this year and if you kept him again, then he would be your 4th round pick. That progression goes on until the 3rd round for any player.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

 

[CalBear]

I don't think you need to change the rules. In a 2QB league, everyone has a QB keeper, and everyone gets the same benefit from the change.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I don't think you need to change the rules. In a 2QB league, everyone has a QB keeper, and everyone gets the same benefit from the change.

We aren't in a 2QB league at the moment and not everyone has a QB keeper heading into the change.It is unfair for all those without QB keepers if Marc Bulger is a 12th round keeper in the normal system and ADP of the 8th round and then when we switch his ADP will go to the 3rd round.

Owners should not benefit from the rule change like that just because they have a QB keeper.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Two round penalty instead of one if you keep a QB.

That should cover it.

 

[Z-Dog]

There is no way to change rules in mid-stream and make it fair. I say just don't let anyone keep QBs this year.

This year, but howabout those that currently have QB keepers?

Make them select a different keeper...It's never going to be fair. people made decisions in one rule system, and now have a different one imposed on them.

Best way is to simply not allow any keepers of any kind, start from scratch with the new rules.

 

[valhallan]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

But then that rule discriminates those which do have keeper QBs on their roster from before.Maybe something along the lines of

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 and all former QB keepers will have a one time keeper value increase of three rounds.

 

[valhallan]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

But then that rule discriminates those which do have keeper QBs on their roster from before.Maybe something along the lines of

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 and all former QB keepers will have a one time keeper value increase of three rounds.

3

If they would accept that, then why not do it for 2006? Just say all QB keepers need to be bumped down two rounds, which would be same as bumping them three in 2007 (if I understand your rules correctly).

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

If your current keeper rule costs you a round of a draft slot, I don't see the issue of this year costing you 2-3 rounds if you keep a QB.

You've increased the value of QB so the price should be steeper - but just this year. Then it is a level playing field.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

But then that rule discriminates those which do have keeper QBs on their roster from before.Maybe something along the lines of

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 and all former QB keepers will have a one time keeper value increase of three rounds.

3

If they would accept that, then why not do it for 2006? Just say all QB keepers need to be bumped down two rounds, which would be same as bumping them three in 2007 (if I understand your rules correctly).

Cause we just voted on ths rule last weekend and it will go into effect the year after. Thats the way we work it with bigger rule changes like this.

 

[valhallan]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

But then that rule discriminates those which do have keeper QBs on their roster from before.Maybe something along the lines of

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 and all former QB keepers will have a one time keeper value increase of three rounds.

3

If they would accept that, then why not do it for 2006? Just say all QB keepers need to be bumped down two rounds, which would be same as bumping them three in 2007 (if I understand your rules correctly).

Cause we just voted on ths rule last weekend and it will go into effect the year after. Thats the way we work it with bigger rule changes like this.

Gotcha, somehow I missed that.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Vote again with two options:

Switch to 2 QBs in 2006, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2005 or earlier

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 or earlier

But then that rule discriminates those which do have keeper QBs on their roster from before.Maybe something along the lines of

Switch to 2 QBs in 2007, but no one may keep a QB drafted in 2006 and all former QB keepers will have a one time keeper value increase of three rounds.

3

If they would accept that, then why not do it for 2006? Just say all QB keepers need to be bumped down two rounds, which would be same as bumping them three in 2007 (if I understand your rules correctly).

Cause we just voted on ths rule last weekend and it will go into effect the year after. Thats the way we work it with bigger rule changes like this.

Gotcha, somehow I missed that.

Ya, I never mentioned that, so I can see your confusion.