HERD's Mock Draft V 1.2 - Updating the 1st go... (1 Viewer)

[Colin Dowling]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT

 

[trader jake]

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi...26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

You missed a "p". With Petrino leaving for ATL I won't be surprised to see Bush declare...I would be surprised if he goes in teh 1st round though. Too many questions, Willis McGahee he isn't.

 

[Colin Dowling]

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi...26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

You missed a "p". With Petrino leaving for ATL I won't be surprised to see Bush declare...I would be surprised if he goes in teh 1st round though. Too many questions, Willis McGahee he isn't.

He's a lot more healed then McGahee was though.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Also...

2.04 - Cleveland Browns - Troy Smith - QB - OSu

2.13 - Carolina Panthers - Drew Stanton - QB - MSU

2.31 - Baltimore Ravens - Kenny Irons - RB - Auburn

 

[sib]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT

Man..as ridiculous as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me to see these jokers draft another WR in the first round.

 

[Colin Dowling]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT

Man..as ridiculous as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me to see these jokers draft another WR in the first round.

It's actually very logical.1. The past is the past. Mike WIlliams and Rogers could have played any position. They busted, pure and simple.

2. The Lions went through a lot of trouble to bring in Kitna and McCown. GIving up on both would negate that.

3. They still need a 2nd WR, don't they?

4. Backus is being well paid at LT, negating THomas as a selection.

 

[SwampDawg]

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

As a fins fan, please oh please let this be true. Petrino going to Atlanta has probably helped the chances Brohm comes out.

 

[pgreenfan]

Colin,

I keep seeing a lot of mocks with the Cowboys going for an OLB and I just don't see it. While Carpenter wasn't great this past year he also wasn't terrible and if healthy should be much improved. In your mock you have Jarrett falling past them and I could see him as the pick.

 

[Colin Dowling]

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

As a fins fan, please oh please let this be true. Petrino going to Atlanta has probably helped the chances Brohm comes out.

He can go top 10 this year or top 10 next year. WHy put off the $$$?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Colin,I keep seeing a lot of mocks with the Cowboys going for an OLB and I just don't see it. While Carpenter wasn't great this past year he also wasn't terrible and if healthy should be much improved. In your mock you have Jarrett falling past them and I could see him as the pick.

THeir pass rush is ATROCIOUS. As good as Ware is, he's not much for getting to the QB. THey need someone who can play the OLB in the 3-4 and get to the backfield.

 

[jurb26]

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

As a fins fan, please oh please let this be true. Petrino going to Atlanta has probably helped the chances Brohm comes out.

He can go top 10 this year or top 10 next year. WHy put off the $$$?

Well, the obvious answer is a National Champ shot. I think he would be wise to come out.

 

[pgreenfan]

Colin,I keep seeing a lot of mocks with the Cowboys going for an OLB and I just don't see it. While Carpenter wasn't great this past year he also wasn't terrible and if healthy should be much improved. In your mock you have Jarrett falling past them and I could see him as the pick.

THeir pass rush is ATROCIOUS. As good as Ware is, he's not much for getting to the QB. THey need someone who can play the OLB in the 3-4 and get to the backfield.

I agree that the pass rush isn't there.... just can't see spending first round picks 3 years in a row on OLB.

 

[Colin Dowling]

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

As a fins fan, please oh please let this be true. Petrino going to Atlanta has probably helped the chances Brohm comes out.

He can go top 10 this year or top 10 next year. WHy put off the $$$?

Well, the obvious answer is a National Champ shot. I think he would be wise to come out.

The odds that they'll get that far in the 1st year of a new coach seem more remote then if Petrino stayed. I think losing the HC sends him in to the pool/

 

[trader jake]

Well, the obvious answer is a National Champ shot. I think he would be wise to come out.

If Louisville didn't do it this year they certainly won't next year.I'd be very surprised if Brohm goes top 10. By the time the scouts get done picking apart his weaknesses I'm thinking he'll go closer to #20 than #10. Maybe I'm not seeing something that you guys are though.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Well, the obvious answer is a National Champ shot. I think he would be wise to come out.

If Louisville didn't do it this year they certainly won't next year.I'd be very surprised if Brohm goes top 10. By the time the scouts get done picking apart his weaknesses I'm thinking he'll go closer to #20 than #10. Maybe I'm not seeing something that you guys are though.

Good points all. However, there has been some BAD QB play in the NFL in recent years. I dont see Harrington coming back.

 

[pgreenfan]

Colin,

One other question.... What is it that you see in Sidney Rice that has him at the bottom of the first round and not earlier?

 

[ILoveMyLions]

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

Wow...Detriot would be in outrage with Millen...and the commentators would have a field day ridiculing the pick...and the Lion organization would be an absolute embarassment to the league...we have that already, so why not? If he's the best player, take him.Honestly, I don't think Millen has the balls to take another WR. I also think that Marinelli is going to get whoever and whatever he asks for this offseason. I'd be shocked if Millen is calling all the shots. When it's all said and done, they go Russell if Martz has his way and he's there, trade down, Oline or defense in that order... Good mock...

 

[Colin Dowling]

Colin,One other question.... What is it that you see in Sidney Rice that has him at the bottom of the first round and not earlier?

I think he's too thin, too inconsistent, and too "young" to go higher. He doesn't use his body near as well as any of the other 4 guys I have in round 1. His "upside", however, will get him in taken ahead of Meachem.

 

[Colin Dowling]

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

Wow...Detriot would be in outrage with Millen...and the commentators would have a field day ridiculing the pick...and the Lion organization would be an absolute embarassment to the league...we have that already, so why not? If he's the best player, take him.Honestly, I don't think Millen has the balls to take another WR. I also think that Marinelli is going to get whoever and whatever he asks for this offseason. I'd be shocked if Millen is calling all the shots. When it's all said and done, they go Russell if Martz has his way and he's there, trade down, Oline or defense in that order... Good mock...

Johnson will be the best pick available at 1.02.

 

[EBF]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...

What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23.

Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.

Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

 

[5Rings]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

Most mocks have SF taking a CB. Its a weak spot, and the team has to match up 6 times/season with the impressive WR talent in AZ, StL, and Sea. Spencer is a solid CB2, and Harris had a career year this year that I don't think you can reasonably expect to see duplicated next season. There is no depth/talent at this spot--Sammy Davis was picked on all day when he saw the field. I can see a case made for a DE like Moses...or A WR like Jarrett or Ginn...but not an ILB.No way do I see a MLB going here unless he's Urlacher II. Right now the team's best MLB is playing out of position at SLB--if Nolan pulls his head out of his butt he'll put Brandon Moore inside where he belongs. Even if he doesn't, he still has servicable playes like DSmith and Ulbrich to hold down the fort for another year. The team is making noise about "changing back to" the 3-4 again (sigh), and if so, I certainly don't see MLB at the top of the need list.FWIW, my SF need list is CB, DE, WR, RT, S. The way this mock fell, I'd have a tough call between Revis and Jarrett.If you don't mind, I'd love to hear your rational for this selection.

 

[trader jake]

Well, the obvious answer is a National Champ shot. I think he would be wise to come out.

If Louisville didn't do it this year they certainly won't next year.I'd be very surprised if Brohm goes top 10. By the time the scouts get done picking apart his weaknesses I'm thinking he'll go closer to #20 than #10. Maybe I'm not seeing something that you guys are though.

Good points all. However, there has been some BAD QB play in the NFL in recent years. I dont see Harrington coming back.

You're right, Harrington will probably not be back in Miami. If they use the #9 overall selection on Brohm they are getting the same type of system QB though. (Obviously I'm not real high on Brohm)

 

[Colin Dowling]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

He needs to show somespeed at the pro day. At that point, I'll move him up.. Until then, he stays lower. And FYI, he won't grade out near Edwards or Roy Williams r Burress.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I agree. Detroit will be doing everything it can to trade out of that pick for either talent or more picks. Schaub would be a good pickup for the Lions and he could sit for a year behind Kitna and learn the offense. I don't know if Atlanta would swap picks in the deal, but that's likely what it would cost for them to move down to #10.

 

[Colin Dowling]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

Most mocks have SF taking a CB. Its a weak spot, and the team has to match up 6 times/season with the impressive WR talent in AZ, StL, and Sea. Spencer is a solid CB2, and Harris had a career year this year that I don't think you can reasonably expect to see duplicated next season. There is no depth/talent at this spot--Sammy Davis was picked on all day when he saw the field. I can see a case made for a DE like Moses...or A WR like Jarrett or Ginn...but not an ILB.No way do I see a MLB going here unless he's Urlacher II. Right now the team's best MLB is playing out of position at SLB--if Nolan pulls his head out of his butt he'll put Brandon Moore inside where he belongs. Even if he doesn't, he still has servicable playes like DSmith and Ulbrich to hold down the fort for another year. The team is making noise about "changing back to" the 3-4 again (sigh), and if so, I certainly don't see MLB at the top of the need list.FWIW, my SF need list is CB, DE, WR, RT, S.If you don't mind, I'd love to hear your rational for this selection.

The SF D needs someone who gets to the ball and hits hard. Willis is just that. You are (obviously) correct on positioning, but "holding down the fort" never did much for anyone. Smith is getting older and if Moore can stay at SLB, then WIllis makes good sense.I agree that CB or WR would not be a shock considering the 1st round talent available at both spots.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I agree. Detroit will be doing everything it can to trade out of that pick for either talent or more picks. Schaub would be a good pickup for the Lions and he could sit for a year behind Kitna and learn the offense. I don't know if Atlanta would swap picks in the deal, but that's likely what it would cost for them to move down to #10.

It's been a while since a backup QB was dealt for a high pick. Voley, D. Johnson, etc. were dangled and ended up swapping teams for low tender. I don't see Schaub, who is not highly paid, going anywhere for more then a 3rd. Why would ATL do that?

 

[EBF]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

He needs to show somespeed at the pro day. At that point, I'll move him up.. Until then, he stays lower. And FYI, he won't grade out near Edwards or Roy Williams r Burress.

I don't know about that. He was pretty impressive throughout college. The stats are there. The measurables are there. He played for a good program. I don't see anything missing. Burress is a 4.5-4.6 guy who has never been accused of having the world's greatest hands. He was a top 12 pick. There's a BIG difference between Jarrett and guys like Michael Jenkins and Chad Jackson. I watched a lot of USC in 2005 and he was arguably their second best player behind Reggie Bush. I haven't seen a WR with this combination of size and skill fall out of the top 15 in the past five years (unless you count Matt Jones, who didn't play WR in college). I don't see that trend changing.

 

[Limp Ditka]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT

Man..as ridiculous as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me to see these jokers draft another WR in the first round.

It's actually very logical.1. The past is the past. Mike WIlliams and Rogers could have played any position. They busted, pure and simple.

2. The Lions went through a lot of trouble to bring in Kitna and McCown. GIving up on both would negate that.

3. They still need a 2nd WR, don't they?

4. Backus is being well paid at LT, negating THomas as a selection.

I'm sorry, but didn't Mike Furrey just catch 98 balls for about 1100 yards and 6 TDs?I know the guy's going to be 30 next year, but what do you want from a 2WR?

The O Line was a shambles all year and it's where they need help immediatly. They'd be fools to pass on Thomas

 

[EBF]

Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I agree. Detroit will be doing everything it can to trade out of that pick for either talent or more picks. Schaub would be a good pickup for the Lions and he could sit for a year behind Kitna and learn the offense. I don't know if Atlanta would swap picks in the deal, but that's likely what it would cost for them to move down to #10.

It's been a while since a backup QB was dealt for a high pick. Voley, D. Johnson, etc. were dangled and ended up swapping teams for low tender. I don't see Schaub, who is not highly paid, going anywhere for more then a 3rd. Why would ATL do that?

I'd contend that those guys don't have the pedigree of Schaub, who was a third round pick. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if I'm Detroit, I would be on the phone with the Falcons. If I could move down from 1.02 to 1.10 and pick up Schaub, then I'm making that deal. They'll save themselves some salary money on their first round pick, they'll still be able to nab an elite prospect, and they'll have a potential franchise QB who is ready to start. The Falcons get their hometown here (Calvin Johnson). The Lions get some pieces of the puzzle. It's not a bad fit. Of couse, it's still a major longshot.

 

[trader jake]

I'm sorry, but didn't Mike Furrey just catch 98 balls for about 1100 yards and 6 TDs?

I know the guy's going to be 30 next year, but what do you want from a 2WR?

The O Line was a shambles all year and it's where they need help immediatly. They'd be fools to pass on Thomas

Furrey is a free agent. Martz brought him to STL and then to DET so I'm guessing there is some loyalty there but if another team offers him the right contract he's gone.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm sorry, but didn't Mike Furrey just catch 98 balls for about 1100 yards and 6 TDs?

I know the guy's going to be 30 next year, but what do you want from a 2WR?

The O Line was a shambles all year and it's where they need help immediatly. They'd be fools to pass on Thomas

Furrey is a free agent. Martz brought him to STL and then to DET so I'm guessing there is some loyalty there but if another team offers him the right contract he's gone.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of his contract status.

 

[Assani Fisher]

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

:X

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Man..as ridiculous as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me to see these jokers draft another WR in the first round.

It's actually very logical.1. The past is the past. Mike WIlliams and Rogers could have played any position. They busted, pure and simple.

2. The Lions went through a lot of trouble to bring in Kitna and McCown. GIving up on both would negate that.

3. They still need a 2nd WR, don't they?

4. Backus is being well paid at LT, negating THomas as a selection.

If the Lions pass on Quinn/Russell (and my guess is that they will), it won't be because of Kitna and McCown. They brought in Kitna as a stopgap--they needed a veteran known quantity to see whether the problem was the QB or the WR's. He's 3 years older than when Palmer was drafted. He isn't the future.They didn't "go through a lot of trouble to bring in McCown"--he's a backup QB, and quite expendable. The fact that they tried him at WR indicated such.

You do raise a good point about Backus; a lot will depend on how Thomas grades out. I could see the Lions go in almost any direction--Thomas, Johnson, Branch, Gaines, Moses, Russell all seem like viable options. If the Lions passed on Leinart last year, I'd be surprised to see them take Quinn.

 

[Capella]

3. They still need a 2nd WR, don't they?

uhh...no?

 

[trader jake]

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

:X

Gotta agree with jw on this one. I know Danny Snyder likes flashy skill players but with the investment the Skins made at WR this past offseason...selecting the best defensive player available at #6 makes a lot more sense.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I don't see him falling past the 49'ers either. A lot of teams seem to load up on skill positions draft after draft until they're satisfied--Jags & Lions with WR's, Browns with TE/WR, etc. V Davis, F Gore and Jarrett would be a nice young core to build around.

 

[EBF]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I don't see him falling past the 49'ers either. A lot of teams seem to load up on skill positions draft after draft until they're satisfied--Jags & Lions with WR's, Browns with TE/WR, etc. V Davis, F Gore and Jarrett would be a nice young core to build around.

Jarrett to SF is a very, very good fit. The Niners desperately need a #1 WR. Antonio Bryant is okay, but he's been inconsistent, his character is a concern, and he's not really the dominant top target that you hope for. Arnaz Battle will never be more than mediocre. Bryan Gilmore is the #3. I definitely think the Niners will pounce if either Ginn or Jarrett is there. With another real threat in the passing game, this team will have a scary offense.

 

[jurb26]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I don't see him falling past the 49'ers either. A lot of teams seem to load up on skill positions draft after draft until they're satisfied--Jags & Lions with WR's, Browns with TE/WR, etc. V Davis, F Gore and Jarrett would be a nice young core to build around.

Jarrett to SF is a very, very good fit. The Niners desperately need a #1 WR. Antonio Bryant is okay, but he's been inconsistent, his character is a concern, and he's not really the dominant top target that you hope for. Arnaz Battle will never be more than mediocre. Bryan Gilmore is the #3. Yea...I definitely think the Niners will pounce if either Ginn or Jarrett is there. With another real threat in the passing game, this team will have a scary offense.

That's what I was thinking as well. Ginn or Jarrett. If Ginn has a great bowl game like Johnson and Jarrett did, I wonder how much it will improve his stock.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

He's gonna transfer without having any eligibility left?

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Excellent draft Colin....one of the better Ive seen in quite some time.

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State Interesting pick here. Could be a real boon to them especially since Branch is off the board. Leon Hall is the only other value here.

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi Why would the niners adress this so high? Dont they have virtually no depth at the corner slots and an geeyser in Walt Harris? Leon Hall seems logical here and they get value and a need taken care of.

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia See Jamal Anderson

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt The Panthers have at least three capable corners on the active roster and, while im not too sure about their contract status, it seems safety is a more pressing issue.

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU Awesome value here.

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas Just a nitpick here but dont you think Anderson is a better overall pass-rusher/DE than Moses? The Rams need a pass-rusher and it seems likely that they take the big riser of this draft (Anderson) rather than someone who slipped his senior year.

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC Good pick but interesting choice of a CB. Why not Ross here? I think its the right pick but am interested in hearing what you think of it.

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno Great pick

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU Excellent Pick

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND Another nitpick. Interested to see why you picked Abiamiri over Charles Johnson. I would have taken Johnson here but abiamiri is just as good a pick .

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU Again, just a nitpick, but Lawrence Timmons and or Jon Beason seem better suited to take over the WLB role. ##### is a good prospect but his speed scares me in this scheme. Beason and Timmons certainly have that speed.

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT Great pick here.

 

[5Rings]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I don't see him falling past the 49'ers either. A lot of teams seem to load up on skill positions draft after draft until they're satisfied--Jags & Lions with WR's, Browns with TE/WR, etc. V Davis, F Gore and Jarrett would be a nice young core to build around.

Jarrett to SF is a very, very good fit. The Niners desperately need a #1 WR. Antonio Bryant is okay, but he's been inconsistent, his character is a concern, and he's not really the dominant top target that you hope for. Arnaz Battle will never be more than mediocre. Bryan Gilmore is the #3. I definitely think the Niners will pounce if either Ginn or Jarrett is there. With another real threat in the passing game, this team will have a scary offense.

I don't know about Alvin Harper, errr Ginn, but I agree on Jarrett to SF. Problem is its likely a moot point as he'll likely rocket up draft boards after his individual workout at SC.

 

[EBF]

Looks pretty good to me. One little gripe though...What does Dwayne Jarrett have to do to get some respect? Guy is 6'5" with good speed and over 3,000 receiving yards and 40 receiving touchdowns in three seasons. I just don't see him falling past San Francisco at #11. Even if he slips that far, I have a hard time seeing him last to #23. Comparable players like Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Braylon Edwards were all very early picks. Unless Jarrett bombs in his workout (which USC players rarely seem to do), I think we can expect him to go high.Otherwise, this mock looks pretty solid. Russell makes sense for Oakland. Detroit is a bit of a wild card at #2. We tend to speculate too much about trades around here, but I really do think the time is now for the Falcons to move Schaub. If Calvin Johnson is sitting there at 1.02, a deal might make some sense. It probably won't happen, but maybe it should.

I don't see him falling past the 49'ers either. A lot of teams seem to load up on skill positions draft after draft until they're satisfied--Jags & Lions with WR's, Browns with TE/WR, etc. V Davis, F Gore and Jarrett would be a nice young core to build around.

Jarrett to SF is a very, very good fit. The Niners desperately need a #1 WR. Antonio Bryant is okay, but he's been inconsistent, his character is a concern, and he's not really the dominant top target that you hope for. Arnaz Battle will never be more than mediocre. Bryan Gilmore is the #3. I definitely think the Niners will pounce if either Ginn or Jarrett is there. With another real threat in the passing game, this team will have a scary offense.

I don't know about Alvin Harper, errr Ginn, but I agree on Jarrett to SF. Problem is its likely a moot point as he'll likely rocket up draft boards after his individual workout at SC.

I think he's already a top 10 type player in the minds of most scouts. He seems to be getting overlooked a bit around here and on a few websites, but 6'5" WRs with good numbers and a history of top production at a major program generally don't last past the top 10-15 picks unless they moonlight as members of Chris Henry's entourage.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think the flaw in my current board is Jarrett going so low. I'll grant that. He is obviously super productive. However, 1st round Wrs tend to excel in the measurables area (a la Mike Jenkins and Troy Williamson) and production tends to get taken for granted.

I think Willis is underrated, and even moreso since this LB draft is silly thin. I think someone takes him as BPA as I think he'll be in the top 10 of many boards.

I think Moses will be a workout warrior and fly up the boards. Many circles thought his so-so season was due to him playing not to get hurt since the advice he had was that DE was weak this year. I think his metrics on pro-day will be what we expected of him this season, i.e off the charts.

I would be SHOCKED to see Aaron Ross in rd 1, and flabergasted to see him in front of Bennett or Cason. I think he lacks the closing speed and the tenacity of the top 4 or 5 CBs in the draft.

 

[BassNBrew]

With Keyshawn talking about hanging up the cleats, I doubt Jarrett would slide past the Panthers. In terms of needs...LB, S, OT, WR, DE, CB, QB

 

[BassNBrew]

I think the flaw in my current board is Jarrett going so low. I'll grant that. He is obviously super productive. However, 1st round Wrs tend to excel in the measurables area (a la Mike Jenkins and Troy Williamson) and production tends to get taken for granted.I think Willis is underrated, and even moreso since this LB draft is silly thin. I think someone takes him as BPA as I think he'll be in the top 10 of many boards.I think Moses will be a workout warrior and fly up the boards. Many circles thought his so-so season was due to him playing not to get hurt since the advice he had was that DE was weak this year. I think his metrics on pro-day will be what we expected of him this season, i.e off the charts.I would be SHOCKED to see Aaron Ross in rd 1, and flabergasted to see him in front of Bennett or Cason. I think he lacks the closing speed and the tenacity of the top 4 or 5 CBs in the draft.

Thanks for answering the Jarrett question. Is Ginn really that much better of a prospect in your opinion?

 

[buster c]

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

with Moss and Randal-El, why would they draft Ginn

 

[Sinrman]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU *Think they'll pass on Quinn, eh?*

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech *Good lord, another WR?! I'd hate to have to burn another high 1st rounder on a WR -- could see them going for Johnson I suppose, trading out of #2, or going for Thomas*

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin *Would be huge for them -- I suppose it's too early to give up on Frye, so they wouldn't go QB -- if Johnson were to fall to them, do you think they'd pass on him? -- how about Peterson?*

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson *Can definitely see this happening, with Simeon Rice likely gone*

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan *Defense is a definite need, so I could see this*

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State *Yeah, could see them going with Ginn*

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame *Giving up on Jackson already, eh? I suppose*

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma *What a steal this would be -- would make them feel 10101928382 times better for passing on Bush this year*

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC *Would be a nice pick -- but could see them going defense again*

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC *Definitely*

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville *Not going to give Leon Washington or others a chance?*

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT *Watched him a number of times -- just not sold on this guy*

 

[Chaos Commish]

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

I haven't read the whole mock or any comments yet, but God bless you for this one. :whoosh: Personally, I think it would be a great pick for them, and the hilarity would just be incredible.

 

[diesel7982]

My current Excel sheet is as follows...

1. Oakland - Jamarcus Russell - QB - LSU

2. Detroit Lions - Calvin Johnson - WR - GTech

3. Cleveland Browns - Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin

4. Tampa Bay Bucaneers - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson

5 .Arizona Cardinals - Alan Branch - DT - Michigan

6 . Washington Redskins - Teddy Ginn - WR - Ohio State

7. Minnesota Vikings - Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame

8. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma

9. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

10. Atlanta Falcons - Reggie Nelson - S - Florida

11. San Fransisco 49ers - Patrick WIllis - LB - Missississississississipi

12. Buffalo Bills - Leon Hall - CB - Michigan

13. St. Louis Rams - Quintin Moses - DE - Georgia

14. Carolina Panthers - Darrelle Revis - CB - Pitt

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Justin Blalock - OT - Texas

16. Green Bay Packers - Marshaun Lynch - RB - Cal

17. Jacksonville Jaguars - Laron Landry - S - LSU

18. Cincinatti Bengals - Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville

19. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Anderson - DE - Arkansas

20. New York Giants - Levi Brown - OT - PEnn State

21. Denver Broncos - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

22. Dallas Cowboys - Lamar Woodley - OLB - LSu

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC

24. New England Pats - Fred Bennett - CB - USC

25. New Orleans - Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno

26. New York Jets - Michael Bush - RB - Louisville

27. Philadelphia Eagles - Sidney Rice - WR - USC

28. New England Pats - Quinn Pitcock - DT - OSU

29. Indianapolis Colts - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

30. Baltimore Ravens - Victor Abiarimi - DE - ND

31. Chicago Bears - Paul Poluszny - LB - PSU

32. San Diego Chargers - Robert Meachem - WR - UT

Man..as ridiculous as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me to see these jokers draft another WR in the first round.

It's actually very logical.1. The past is the past. Mike WIlliams and Rogers could have played any position. They busted, pure and simple.

2. The Lions went through a lot of trouble to bring in Kitna and McCown. GIving up on both would negate that.

3. They still need a 2nd WR, don't they?

4. Backus is being well paid at LT, negating THomas as a selection.

Im glad I got through on this Colin, but what part of my assessment of how Calvin fits with the Martz offense did you apparently disagree with?

 

[diesel7982]

Colin,I keep seeing a lot of mocks with the Cowboys going for an OLB and I just don't see it. While Carpenter wasn't great this past year he also wasn't terrible and if healthy should be much improved. In your mock you have Jarrett falling past them and I could see him as the pick.

THeir pass rush is ATROCIOUS. As good as Ware is, he's not much for getting to the QB. THey need someone who can play the OLB in the 3-4 and get to the backfield.

I agree that the pass rush isn't there.... just can't see spending first round picks 3 years in a row on OLB.

Carpenter will likely be an ILB in the future.