hey bloom, any chance (1 Viewer)

[tecmo bo]

folded in with the dynasty rankings? it would be nice to see where you see them falling for the leagues that draft early.

 

[Q-Bert]

Not Bloom but here is how I currently have them. Rookies will obviously move quite a bit based on where they get drafted.

1 RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD

2 RB Larry Johnson, KC

3 RB Steven Jackson, STL

4 RB Reggie Bush, NO

5 RB Frank Gore, SF

6 RB Rudi Johnson, CIN

7 RB Brian Westbrook, PHI

8 WR Larry Fitzgerald, ARI

9 QB Peyton Manning, IND

10 WR Chad Johnson, CIN

11 WR Steve Smith, CAR

12 RB Willie Parker, PIT

13 WR Torry Holt, STL

14 RB Clinton Portis, WAS

15 RB Joseph Addai, IND

16 WR Reggie Wayne, IND

17 RB Laurence Maroney, NE

18 QB Carson Palmer, CIN

19 RB Ronnie Brown, MIA

20 WR Javon Walker, DEN

21 TE Antonio Gates, SD

22 WR Lee Evans, BUF

23 WR Roy Williams, DET

24 WR Anquan Boldin, ARI

25 RB Adrian Peterson, ROOKIE

26 RB, Willis McGahee, BAL

27 WR Andre Johnson, HOU

28 RB Shaun Alexander, SEA

29 WR Calvin Johnson, ROOKIE

30 WR Marvin Harrison, IND

31 RB Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX

32 RB Chester Taylor, MIN

33 WR Marques Colston, NO

34 QB Drew Brees, NO

35 RB Cedric Benson, CHI

36 QB Michael Vick, ATL

37 WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh, CIN

38 WR Darrell Jackson, SEA

39 QB Donovan McNabb, PHI

40 WR Plaxico Burress, NYG

41 WR Hines Ward, PIT

42 QB Tom Brady, NE

43 QB Vince Young, TEN

44 RB Marshawn Lynch ROOKIE

45 RB LenDale White, TEN

46 RB DeAngelo Williams, CAR

47 RB Deuce McAllister, NO

48 WR Terrell Owens, DAL

49 WR Santana Moss, WAS

50 RB Cadillac Williams, TB

51 WR Braylon Edwards, CLE

52 RB Brandon Jacobs, NYG

53 TE Tony Gonzalez, KC

54 QB Marc Bulger, STL

55 QB Matt Leinart, ARI

56 WR Donald Driver, GB

57 RB Edgerrin James, ARI

58 RB Travis Henry, DEN

59 WR Mark Clayton, BAL

60 WR Reggie Brown, PHI

61 RB Michael Turner, SD

62 WR Dwayne Bowe ROOKIE

63 WR Laveranues Coles, NYJ

64 WR Donte Stallworth, PHI

65 WR Robert Meachem ROOKIE

66 TE Alge Crumpler, ATL

67 TE Todd Heap, BAL

68 RB Marion Barber III, DAL

69 RB Thomas Jones, CHI

70 RB Julius Jones, DAL

71 RB Kevin Jones, DET

72 TE Jeremy Shockey, NYG

73 QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA

74 QB Eli Manning, NYG

75 QB Jay Cutler, DEN

76 WR Randy Moss, OAK

77 WR Chris Chambers, MIA

78 WR Santonio Holmes, PIT

79 RB Jerious Norwood, ATL

80 RB Ahman Green, HOU

81 RB Fred Taylor, JAX

82 QB Phillip Rivers, SD

83 QB Ben Rothlisberger, PIT

84 TE Jason Witten, DAL

85 RB Jamal Lewis, CLE

86 WR Dwayne Jarrett ROOKIE

87 WR Deion Branch, SEA

88 WR Brandon Marshall, DEN

89 WR Matt Jones, JAX

90 WR Vincent Jackson, SD

91 TE Chris Cooley, WAS

92 TE Vernon Davis, SF

93 RB LaMont Jordan, OAK

94 TE Ben Watson, NE

95 WR Ted Ginn, Jr ROOKIE

96 WR Bernard Berrian, CHI

97 WR Jerricho Cotchery, NYJ

98 WR Greg Jennings, GB

99 RB Tatum Bell, DET

100 RB Vernand Morency, GB

101 RB Ladell Betts, WAS

102 RB Warrick Dunn, ATL

103 WR Sidney Rice ROOKIE

104 WR Terry Glenn, DAL

105 WR Joey Galloway, TB

106 WR Kevin Curtis, PHI

107 RB DeShaun Foster, CAR

108 TE Kellen Winslow Jr, CLE

 

[UCSBgerry]

Shaun Alexander at 28, you are smoking crack. He will still be a top 6 RB for at 2-3 years.

 

[Q-Bert]

Shaun Alexander at 28, you are smoking crack. He will still be a top 6 RB for at 2-3 years.

Thanks for the constructive feedback.On the other hand:-He's 30 years old-Seattle's offensive line is no where near what it used to be-Mack Strong is no longer a good FBAlthough that may just be the crack talking.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

They won't get added to the DB until after the draft.

Here's a prelim rank of some of the top guys:

Russell QB15-17

Quinn QB17-19

Peterson RB11-14

Lynch RB20-25

Calvin WR12-15

Olsen TE12-15

 

[UCSBgerry]

Shaun Alexander at 28, you are smoking crack. He will still be a top 6 RB for at 2-3 years.

Thanks for the constructive feedback.On the other hand:-He's 30 years old-Seattle's offensive line is no where near what it used to be-Mack Strong is no longer a good FBAlthough that may just be the crack talking.

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

 

[Q-Bert]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

That's a great comeback. I can't believe no one has ever said that before on a message board. The guy finished 28th overall last year and is another year older. In 2-3 years from now (when you think he will still be a top six player) he will be 32 - 33 years old. With the type of carries he has had in his career I don't expect a slow decline for him. At some point Shaun Alexander is going to fall off the face of the earth. If you draft him in the first two rounds that will leave a huge hole in your lineup. In an initial dynasty I really don't want to take a player with such a high risk factor to be one of my top two or three players.His spot on my ranking basically amounts to a Do Not Draft designator. I just don't think he is worth the risk.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

They won't get added to the DB until after the draft.Here's a prelim rank of some of the top guys:Russell QB15-17Quinn QB17-19Peterson RB11-14Lynch RB20-25Calvin WR12-15Olsen TE12-15

I'd have to think on these, but Olsen seems high.

 

[Q-Bert]

They won't get added to the DB until after the draft.Here's a prelim rank of some of the top guys:Russell QB15-17Quinn QB17-19Peterson RB11-14Lynch RB20-25Calvin WR12-15Olsen TE12-15

I'd have to think on these, but Olsen seems high.

The quarterbacks seem a little higher than I would put them but not outlandish. The rookies whose rank I am most interested in are the tier of receivers after Calvin Johnson. With all the talk of how historically great this WR class is I really struggled with where to place guys like Bowe, Meachem, and Jarrett.

 

[lord_helmet]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

That's a great comeback. I can't believe no one has ever said that before on a message board. The guy finished 28th overall last year and is another year older. In 2-3 years from now (when you think he will still be a top six player) he will be 32 - 33 years old. With the type of carries he has had in his career I don't expect a slow decline for him. At some point Shaun Alexander is going to fall off the face of the earth. If you draft him in the first two rounds that will leave a huge hole in your lineup. In an initial dynasty I really don't want to take a player with such a high risk factor to be one of my top two or three players.His spot on my ranking basically amounts to a Do Not Draft designator. I just don't think he is worth the risk.

I agree on SA (DY-NA-STY) and I like the rankings , but why so down on Owens ? Harrision is no spring chicken either but is ranked about 20 spots higher. I'd rather have Palmer than any of RBs right ahead of him, but maybe thats just me. Good job

 

[Q-Bert]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

That's a great comeback. I can't believe no one has ever said that before on a message board. The guy finished 28th overall last year and is another year older. In 2-3 years from now (when you think he will still be a top six player) he will be 32 - 33 years old. With the type of carries he has had in his career I don't expect a slow decline for him. At some point Shaun Alexander is going to fall off the face of the earth. If you draft him in the first two rounds that will leave a huge hole in your lineup. In an initial dynasty I really don't want to take a player with such a high risk factor to be one of my top two or three players.His spot on my ranking basically amounts to a Do Not Draft designator. I just don't think he is worth the risk.

I agree on SA (DY-NA-STY) and I like the rankings , but why so down on Owens ? Harrision is no spring chicken either but is ranked about 20 spots higher. I'd rather have Palmer than any of RBs right ahead of him, but maybe thats just me. Good job

It's very similar to my thinking on Alexander. It basically amounts to a Do Not Draft designator. His risk factor is way too high for me. With Owens it is less about age than about mental illness. I'm not throwing that term around on accident either. Whereas most people think Owens is a jackass I truly believe he has a mental illness that is going untreated.Harrison on the other hand represents the exact opposite. His ranking is almost a Must Draft designator. I think he will have 1-2 more top 12 seasons and then either retire or start a slow decline. He can be drafted much later than Alexander and at that point he is on the good side of the risk/reward line.

 

[Q-Bert]

I'm not suprised that we've spent some time on my ranking of SA. However, I'm a bit suprised no one has mentioned the other rankings where I am a bit off from the conventional wisdom.

14 RB Clinton Portis, WAS

22 WR Lee Evans, BUF

71 RB Kevin Jones, DET

 

[QUEZILLA]

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a few guys target both of them back to back picks at the end of the 1st.

 

[Q-Bert]

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a few guys target both of them back to back picks at the end of the 1st.

I assume you are talking about Peterson and Calvin Johnson. Is that correct?If so, that seems very risky to me. I certainly wouldn't mind having both of those guys on my team but not as my top two players.

 

[Will]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

He went at 2.9 in a recent dynasty startup I was in. I happily passed on him twice. Our league is full but I would not invite you to join anyway because I am terribly frightened of your vast fantasy football acumen.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

He went at 2.9 in a recent dynasty startup I was in. I happily passed on him twice. Our league is full but I would not invite you to join anyway because I am terribly frightened of your vast fantasy football acumen.

At how much sarcasm you stuffed into just one sentence.

 

[Q-Bert]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

He went at 2.9 in a recent dynasty startup I was in. I happily passed on him twice. Our league is full but I would not invite you to join anyway because I am terribly frightened of your vast fantasy football acumen.

Sweet.

 

[Will]

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a few guys target both of them back to back picks at the end of the 1st.

I assume you are talking about Peterson and Calvin Johnson. Is that correct?If so, that seems very risky to me. I certainly wouldn't mind having both of those guys on my team but not as my top two players.

I agree although I could see taking a shot with AD at or near the turn. Big gamble but if he's anywhere near as good as some speculate that's a steal.I like the rankings, I am a big fan of Evans too. Although I like Roy a bit more and sise by side, I think I take AJ before Evans as well.I like Benson a little higher. It's a gamble, but if he pans out he'll be a steal toverall, really nice rankings. I like the Calvin and Harrison slots next to each other. I have seen a fairly even split of opinions on whether Harriosn is worth the 1.2 pick. Depends on the team, win now or rebuild etc. but the rankings captured that well.nice work. I enjoyed it, thanks. I'll be back to look at it a little more later.

 

[Q-Bert]

I agree although I could see taking a shot with AD at or near the turn. Big gamble but if he's anywhere near as good as some speculate that's a steal.

I like the rankings, I am a big fan of Evans too. Although I like Roy a bit more and sise by side, I think I take AJ before Evans as well.

I like Benson a little higher. It's a gamble, but if he pans out he'll be a steal too.

Overall, really nice rankings. I like the Calvin and Harrison slots next to each other. I have seen a fairly even split of opinions on whether Harriosn is worth the 1.2 pick. Depends on the team, win now or rebuild etc. but the rankings captured that well.

nice work. I enjoyed it, thanks. I'll be back to look at it a little more later.

On Evans.I put quite a bit of thought into his ranking and made a conscious decision to rank him ahead of Roy Williams and Andre Johnson. Roy and AJ are both taller and stronger but Evans is crazy fast and quick. Roy and Lee Evans were drafted in the same year and Lee Evans has finished ranked ahead of Williams every year.

 

[QUEZILLA]

So you're telling me in a 12 team league, I can pick up Alexander in the 3rd round??? Can you please send me an invite into one or all of your fantasy leagues please

He went at 2.9 in a recent dynasty startup I was in. I happily passed on him twice. Our league is full but I would not invite you to join anyway because I am terribly frightened of your vast fantasy football acumen.

Last year in a new dynasty draft I was in someone drafted Reggie Bush at 6, I thought it was nuts, but I guess not. Around 6-8 were guys lke Lamont Jordan, and Edge. Right now CJ, and AP are much greater than those guys in my book.

 

[bigreese82]

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Shaun Alexander at 28, you are smoking crack. He will still be a top 6 RB for at 2-3 years.

28th overall sounds about right.

 

[perry147]

Shaun Alexander at 28, you are smoking crack. He will still be a top 6 RB for at 2-3 years.

28th overall sounds about right.

Maybe not 28th but I would put him in the late teens -early 20's myself.Like other posters have pointed out he is getting older now and the Seattlt offensive line is not what it was.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Caddy Williams at 50 kinda blows me away.