Highly-touted week 1 disappointments least likely to live (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

We have the "players to trade for" thread, so this is basically a "players who didn't do well today that you don't think will come around" thread.

My picks:

Steve Smith - I avoided him in all drafts, because I thought he was going too high, and I wasn't sold on Jake Delhomme bouncing back.

Anquan Boldin - Guy is always banged up, and the Cardinals offense looks like it is gonna miss its old OC

Eddie Royal - Kyle Orton is awful, and is likely to get Royal killed before long, with his errant throws.

Ronnie Brown - I was never sold on him before, and considering I don't see the Dolphins or Pennington being as good this year, his upside is severely limited.

Kurt Warner - I love watching the guy, but he is 38, has never played two 16-game seasons in a row, his OL doesn't look as good this year, and Haley will be missed.

 

[Jewell]

Steven Jackson -- His average looked alright today, but the Rams are just going to struggle to put the ball in the endzone all year. I just don't see a lot of TDs for Jackson this season.

 

[jobarules]

agree on brown and smith

 

[packersfan]

I don't know what to think about Royal to be honest. I think Orton is about as awful a QB as you're going to find in the NFL but I figured he could at least feed Royal for 5-6 receptions a game on 5-yard routes. After today, I'm not sure he can even do that. The Broncos play Cleveland next week and I'm tempted to sit Royal. I probably won't but it was brutal watching Orton today.

 

[plymkr]

Can;t agree on Boldin. He will be fine. Is great at YAC. Last year they threw him quick WR screens and let him run...I didn't see that today. Maybe it went with Haley?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Can;t agree on Boldin. He will be fine. Is great at YAC. Last year they threw him quick WR screens and let him run...I didn't see that today. Maybe it went with Haley?

I think Boldin will still have a good season, but it is inevitable that he will miss a few games, and I don't see the Cardinals offense as a whole being as good (I thought that before today), so his numbers will suffer.

 

[moleculo]

I don't know what to think about Royal to be honest. I think Orton is about as awful a QB as you're going to find in the NFL but I figured he could at least feed Royal for 5-6 receptions a game on 5-yard routes. After today, I'm not sure he can even do that. The Broncos play Cleveland next week and I'm tempted to sit Royal. I probably won't but it was brutal watching Orton today.

not to be too much of an orton apologist, but the dude was playing with stitches on his finger and a glove. One would hope he can improve. IMO, Bronco recievers are good buy lows.

 

[GoldenBear]

I don't know what to think about Royal to be honest. I think Orton is about as awful a QB as you're going to find in the NFL but I figured he could at least feed Royal for 5-6 receptions a game on 5-yard routes. After today, I'm not sure he can even do that. The Broncos play Cleveland next week and I'm tempted to sit Royal. I probably won't but it was brutal watching Orton today.

Yeah...I've been trying to talk myself into dropping Royal and picking up Michael Clayton...I just have to hope that it was first-day jitters, though, because I would hate to to dump a 6th round pick...Oh, and my league has very little bench space, for those posters who couldn't wait to make a flippant comment and roll their eyes.

 

[towney]

I might have to say Chris Henry hype is over stated. Probably giving him the boot for Michael Clayton since there's an injury issue with Bryant.

 

[jon_mx]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

 

[SKribbles]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

 

[Todem]

I am seeing some ludicrus posts in here...so typical for week one.

LMAO.

 

[Twilight]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

I assume you are talking fantasy, because there is no way in hell he gets benched in Chicago.

 

[SKribbles]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

I assume you are talking fantasy, because there is no way in hell he gets benched in Chicago.

Both. Tonight is going to be the norm. He may put up a few TDs against the Lions.

 

[None_More_Black]

Stephen Jackson. The O and D is terrible.

 

[Jayrod]

Braylon Edwards

No way he finishes in the top 20 this year.

 

[Carver Lee]

Steven Jackson -- His average looked alright today, but the Rams are just going to struggle to put the ball in the endzone all year. I just don't see a lot of TDs for Jackson this season.

I don't mean to be condescending but YA' THINK? this was talked about ad nauseum this offeseason.results that baffle me:

Slaton - as speculated, Chrissy Brown was not the problem. 9 carries was...............?

Bush - 28-7 in favor of Bell. Bush is a RB3. I'm surprised simple politics, if nothing else, kept this from happening.

Cincy Offense - Was it all an illusion?

 

[az_prof]

I don't know what to think about Royal to be honest. I think Orton is about as awful a QB as you're going to find in the NFL but I figured he could at least feed Royal for 5-6 receptions a game on 5-yard routes. After today, I'm not sure he can even do that. The Broncos play Cleveland next week and I'm tempted to sit Royal. I probably won't but it was brutal watching Orton today.

Yeah...I've been trying to talk myself into dropping Royal and picking up Michael Clayton...I just have to hope that it was first-day jitters, though, because I would hate to to dump a 6th round pick...Oh, and my league has very little bench space, for those posters who couldn't wait to make a flippant comment and roll their eyes.

Trust me, and thank me later: this would be INSANE. Royal is a good player and will have good days. This day was a nightmare for Denver but they are playing a new system with a new QB and there is clearly still some confusion. No running game with Moreno not up to speed. But Clayton has been around a long time and disappointed regularly. One game does not a season make. You don't want to overreact based on week 1.

 

[Jewell]

Steven Jackson -- His average looked alright today, but the Rams are just going to struggle to put the ball in the endzone all year. I just don't see a lot of TDs for Jackson this season.

I don't mean to be condescending but YA' THINK? this was talked about ad nauseum this offeseason.results that baffle me:

Slaton - as speculated, Chrissy Brown was not the problem. 9 carries was...............?

Bush - 28-7 in favor of Bell. Bush is a RB3. I'm surprised simple politics, if nothing else, kept this from happening.

Cincy Offense - Was it all an illusion?

Hey, I agree but based on his ADP many people were still foolish enough to draft him in the first round. I didn't get it either.

 

[BassNBrew]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

I assume you are talking fantasy, because there is no way in hell he gets benched in Chicago.

Both. Tonight is going to be the norm. He may put up a few TDs against the Lions.

You were saying???

 

[SKribbles]

Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half

He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

I assume you are talking fantasy, because there is no way in hell he gets benched in Chicago.

Both. Tonight is going to be the norm. He may put up a few TDs against the Lions.

You were saying???

1 TD 3 INTs GO CUTLER!!!!

 

[Twilight]

>Jay Culter sucks...threw 3 Ints and had 2 more hit defenders in the chest....and we are still in the first half He'll be riding the bench before the season is done.

I assume you are talking fantasy, because there is no way in hell he gets benched in Chicago.

Both. Tonight is going to be the norm. He may put up a few TDs against the Lions.

You were saying???

1 TD 3 INTs GO CUTLER!!!!

Even if he does that the rest of the year, he gives Chicago a better chance to win than Caleb Hanie.

 

[GoldenBear]

I don't know what to think about Royal to be honest. I think Orton is about as awful a QB as you're going to find in the NFL but I figured he could at least feed Royal for 5-6 receptions a game on 5-yard routes. After today, I'm not sure he can even do that. The Broncos play Cleveland next week and I'm tempted to sit Royal. I probably won't but it was brutal watching Orton today.

Yeah...I've been trying to talk myself into dropping Royal and picking up Michael Clayton...I just have to hope that it was first-day jitters, though, because I would hate to to dump a 6th round pick...Oh, and my league has very little bench space, for those posters who couldn't wait to make a flippant comment and roll their eyes.

Trust me, and thank me later: this would be INSANE. Royal is a good player and will have good days. This day was a nightmare for Denver but they are playing a new system with a new QB and there is clearly still some confusion. No running game with Moreno not up to speed. But Clayton has been around a long time and disappointed regularly. One game does not a season make. You don't want to overreact based on week 1.

Oh, I agree, and the operative words in my post were "trying to talk myself into", so thankfully I've exercised restraint. Thanks for your assurance that Royal isn't a total waste

 

[Darko M]

Stephen Jackson.

I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

 

[rascal]

Stephen Jackson.I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

I drafted him in round 2 and I'm thinking that decision was bad.

 

[Jimmy James]

I think Ronnie Brown might be a good call, and I say that as a Dolphins fan/Brown owner. I was surprised by the work Ricky Williams got and how the stats seem to make him look like the better option. I didn't get to watch this game, though.

 

[Jasonb]

Stephen Jackson.I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

I drafted him in round 2 and I'm thinking that decision was bad.

I drafted him in the 2nd as well...but I think SJAX's lack of fantasy points was more from the bad play calling and decision making from Bulger. They were passing way too much...no establishment of a running game. Ever heard of play action STL?

 

[MCguidance]

Stephen Jackson.I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

I drafted him in round 2 and I'm thinking that decision was bad.

I drafted him in the 2nd as well...but I think SJAX's lack of fantasy points was more from the bad play calling and decision making from Bulger. They were passing way too much...no establishment of a running game. Ever heard of play action STL?

He touched the ball 14 times, that's it. There's no way he is going to be featured at that rate for the rest of the year. He is the offense's best player....by far. He may not hit the end zone that often, but he will definitely be top back by the time it is said and done.

 

[rascal]

Stephen Jackson.I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

I drafted him in round 2 and I'm thinking that decision was bad.

I drafted him in the 2nd as well...but I think SJAX's lack of fantasy points was more from the bad play calling and decision making from Bulger. They were passing way too much...no establishment of a running game. Ever heard of play action STL?

He touched the ball 14 times, that's it. There's no way he is going to be featured at that rate for the rest of the year. He is the offense's best player....by far. He may not hit the end zone that often, but he will definitely be top back by the time it is said and done.

I hope you guys are right.

 

[CrossEyed]

Green Bay completely taking Olsen away as an option for Cutler may be a pattern other teams follow. Zero points so far tonight is killing me.

 

[Jimmy James]

Green Bay completely taking Olsen away as an option for Cutler may be a pattern other teams follow. Zero points so far tonight is killing me.

Yep. My Olsen/Vernon Davis "somebody's gotta bust out" platoon is looking to be a failure. Of course, not much is looking positive other than my Philly D this week.

 

[GoBirds]

I think Ronnie Brown might be a good call, and I say that as a Dolphins fan/Brown owner. I was surprised by the work Ricky Williams got and how the stats seem to make him look like the better option. I didn't get to watch this game, though.

Agree, vey worried. Whats the deal, the year he tore up his knee when he was carrying the load he was unstoppable under Cam Cameron. Now he is stuck in RBBC with an over the hill Ricky.

 

[GoldenBear]

::edited for evil::

 

[MCguidance]

Steve McNai...oh...didn't read the topic sub-line.

 

[GoBirds]

::edited for evil::

Wow, way to be a classless d-bag

 

[GoldenBear]

::edited for evil::

Wow, way to be a classless d-bag

A classless, self-editing d-bag.

 

[MCguidance]

::edited for evil::

Wow, way to be a classless d-bag

A classless, self-editing d-bag.

Your edit is too late. Why write that? Anyway. Anyone worried about Deangelo? He did get into the endzone, but his situation is almost Sjax like, baaad QBs, though the Panthers team is much better. I dont think its smart to jump ship after a week, two weeks, etc. on any of these players yet (though there will be some players to underperform, so if you can predict, by all means move them).

 

[The Jerk]

Ahhh, yes!

Week 1

It seems to take soooo long for Sunday to finally come.

I get ready to observe my team crush the opposition, often the team with the worst roster according to FBG rankings.

Then the games start...

and my opponent with the weak roster punches me in the gut with Tony Romo (in a distance-bonus heavy TD league) and Patrick Crayton (who the whole league laughed when he was drafted in the 6th round) and I sit there with my balanced lineup and great depth and say "0-1 is no big deal" and login to the shark pool to see the panic threads and overreactions.

Worried about Steve Smith? I can see it, but Delhomme's not going to throw 64 picks. One way or another, he'll either get better or he'll be benched.

Braylon Edwards not top 20 WR. Well, he was borderline to begin with, but today can hardly be the clincher. If he doesn't get his TD reversed, that comment almost certainly isn't made. And let's wait and see how he looks when he's not playing a team with a dominant DL who's on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.

Cutler's not throwing 64 picks, either. I like what I saw out of Bennett and Hester. I think there's a lot of room for growth if you can handle the youthful inconsistencies.

Hey, a lot of the best opportunities to remake your roster come in Week 1, so you don't want to miss those chances, but keep in mind how some people felt last year when they dropped DeAngelo Williams after Week 4 last season, when he had just completed his fourth consecutive TD-less game and was averaging a whopping 55.5 combined yards per game. I mean, it was obvious that Jonathan Stewart was the back to have, what with 4 TDs in 4 weeks and averaging 50 combined yards per game.

Right?

Right?

 

[Jimmy James]

Braylon Edwards not top 20 WR. Well, he was borderline to begin with, but today can hardly be the clincher. If he doesn't get his TD reversed, that comment almost certainly isn't made. And let's wait and see how he looks when he's not playing a team with a dominant DL who's on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.

The thing about Edwards is that the TD would have obscured what would have been the more accurate position -- concern that he's going to have another crap season. His other targets based on what I have heard were two bad throws and two drops. Not a good day.

 

[The Jerk]

Braylon Edwards not top 20 WR. Well, he was borderline to begin with, but today can hardly be the clincher. If he doesn't get his TD reversed, that comment almost certainly isn't made. And let's wait and see how he looks when he's not playing a team with a dominant DL who's on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.

The thing about Edwards is that the TD would have obscured what would have been the more accurate position -- concern that he's going to have another crap season. His other targets based on what I have heard were two bad throws and two drops. Not a good day.

I completely agree. Here in Pittsburgh we were forced to watch that debacle and it was not a good day. But it's just one game. In the Browns case, you can make an exception to one game since we're all still waiting for their first offensive TD since Thanksgiving.However, if you drafted Edwards, you should have expected it might take time for him to get going with Quinn. Sure, he wasn't announced until today or yesterday or whatever, but he was the expected starter at least from everything I observed.While I can understand concern over any player who started slow, and I feel it too about my players who came out far less than stellar, it is just one game. It's too early to conclude anything.

 

[GregR_2]

...

results that baffle me:

Slaton - as speculated, Chrissy Brown was not the problem. 9 carries was...............?

...

Jets D totally dominated the line of scrimmage. Texans did a poor job especially of handling Kris Jenkins. There just wasn't anywhere to run, and on passing plays the Jets got pressure both from the normal rush and from blitzes. Lots of plays they had guys hitting Schaub unblocked.I wouldn't panic yet... but I would be paying attention going forward to how Houston does against teams with massive tackles like Jenkins. With their scheme that uses smaller, faster O-linemen, it's a weakness.

 

[a_troll00]

It's too early to begin panicking over players. Week 1 is always screwy in my book. There will be players that have an awful first week that go on to have a very good season overall. Likewise, there will be players who seemed destined to break out after the first game that just seem to disappear after that. It happens every year.

 

[Jimmy James]

It's too early to begin panicking over players. Week 1 is always screwy in my book. There will be players that have an awful first week that go on to have a very good season overall. Likewise, there will be players who seemed destined to break out after the first game that just seem to disappear after that. It happens every year.

I don't think this is about panic. It's not who to drop but rather who crapped the bed and will keep crapping it. I own Brown and Edwards (have them both cheap in a keeper). Next week will likely see me bench Brown because I have the depth to do it and keep starting Edwards because my #4 option was Anthony Gonzalez.

 

[th3f00l]

Larry Johnson may be on his way out. The way Charles ran against Baltimore today gives him more of an edge after filling in for injured LJ so much.

S. Jax has been disappointing before. I think the 90 yard reception and 100+ yard carry days are done

Reggie Bush He doesn't have the power required at the RB position. Great at seeing the pocket and excellent speed. That isn't too necessary in an offense that runs the ball for shorter yards.

Jake Delhomme OMG

Everything else is still up in the air... Cutler may find his niche'.... FWP is still a bada##... Steve Smith(car) shares a similar title...

 

[Master of Past and Present]

I think Ronnie Brown might be a good call, and I say that as a Dolphins fan/Brown owner. I was surprised by the work Ricky Williams got and how the stats seem to make him look like the better option. I didn't get to watch this game, though.

Wasn't just the stats. Watching I kept thinking that Williams was clearly running better, harder. Neither got all that much room to run, Ricky was just doing more with his chances. The farther along the game went, the more I wanted to see Brown in the game over Ricky.

 

[twistd]

Forte-I think he was targeted twice

 

[tbglog]

Forte-I think he was targeted twice

Someone needs to tell Cutler this is not Vanderbilt, he missed hester a couple of times down field and Forte of the backfield because he seems locked onto Bennett. I am picking up Bennett this week to stash on the bench. Cutler forced balls into to Bennett regardless of who else was on the field in my opinion.

 

[Mene]

The S. Jackson panic is far too pre-mature. The question on him is always his health, nothing else. On a per game basis, this guy almost always puts up numbers, even last year with a presumably worse Ram team than this years model. I'm not sure what happened in the play-calling/decision making yesterday, considering we heard all offseason how the offense would run THROUGH Jackson, and he is obviously their most dangerous weapon. I don't, however, expect it to continue. Jackson will get his touches, and he'll put up numbers with them. Anyone expecting 2006 again was really grasping anyways... it's a far less explosive team. He should still find his way to 3ish rec per game and 80ish yds rushing per game once it's all said and done. He always seems to.

 

[MCguidance]

The S. Jackson panic is far too pre-mature. The question on him is always his health, nothing else. On a per game basis, this guy almost always puts up numbers, even last year with a presumably worse Ram team than this years model. I'm not sure what happened in the play-calling/decision making yesterday, considering we heard all offseason how the offense would run THROUGH Jackson, and he is obviously their most dangerous weapon. I don't, however, expect it to continue. Jackson will get his touches, and he'll put up numbers with them. Anyone expecting 2006 again was really grasping anyways... it's a far less explosive team. He should still find his way to 3ish rec per game and 80ish yds rushing per game once it's all said and done. He always seems to.

I agree with this - 14 touches to your best player is unacceptable. I think it had more to do with the Rams' awful inability to convert 3rd downs and keep drives going than anything else. Bulger had a big part in this, but Avery and Robinson are not Holt et al circa 1999. Checking down was a problem, but I expect more touches moving forward (screens, passes in the flat, etc).

 

[Tanner9919]

Stephen Jackson.I could not for the life of me understand how he continues to be a 1st round pick. I actually felt bad for the team that took him in the 1st this year, I just KNEW he was going to be terrible.

Rams are terrible. Jackson is the most overrated 'first round' pick in FF..he doesn't belong in the first round, he's a third-rate RB who consistenly posts Jamal Lewis-esque numbers - 1006 yards, 6 tds.how does this guy keep getting so much love?Steve Smith(car) is bust this year.he won't approach the numbers you'd expect for someone with such a high ADP.A. Bryant was never going to repeat his #'s from last season...Colston caught 3-30,and 1 TD.in a game where Brees threw for 358 and 6 tds...I know it's only week 1, but Shockey and Henderson have given Brees some other outlets to throw to, and they might hurt Colston's #'s this season...K. Moreno - this guy is as fragile as they come...and he wasn't impressive either..will uderperform relative to ADP.he's a bust.David Garrard - 50% comp percentage against the soft Colts defense? c'mon now. 61 QB rating? Chase to his defense in 3.....2.....1....