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HINES WARD (1 Viewer)
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shakeybarn
Footballguy
If he gets about 600 yards and 5 TDs the rest of the way... it's about #20 WR worth (that's ~60 and .5 a game). Anything more puts him in there. Not like Holmes is taking away much at this point. Hines great in the red zone, and if Najeh misses any time, bump Hines up a bit.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
the guy has been regarded as one of the top blocking /run blocking WRs for quite a few years now. there's more than just fantasy output to a team... but i'm not sure if your knock is "NFL" or FF....
I've always love snagging him in PPR leagues where he is $.The injury has soured people on him, but he still is a very capable WR.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
When healthy, yes. Ward has never been a top 5 WR by any means, but he has been a very good and reliable WR for many years.
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Yes, he is.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Obviously you mean except for when he finished WR3 (2002), and followed it up the next year by finishing WR6 (2003).
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Whuuuuuuuuuuuuu? 112 receptions 1300+ yards and 12 TDs isn't Top 5?how about Top 3 in 2002.
2nd in the NFL in receptions
4th in yardage (only 18 yards behind the #2 yardage gainer)
2nd in the NFL in receiving TDs
Dude also added about 150 rushing yards for 1471 total yards.
What scoring do you use that wouldn't make him a Top 5????
Ward is awesome and generally underrated.
Look who his QBs have been and the offensive systems he has played in under Cowher compared to some of the other "elite" WRs around the league.
Look who his QBs have been and the offensive systems he has played in under Cowher compared to some of the other "elite" WRs around the league.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
[denny] He is ... who we thought he was! [/denny]
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Great guy to target at this point.
Bodysnatcher
Footballguy
Hines Ward is a stud. However, he is old and injured. Not really worth looking any further into it than that. Even if healthy, he isn't going to put up the kind of numbers that he used to. However, he is a solid guy to use on a bye week.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
The issue isn't going back to his old numbers, nobody believes that. It's about where he is now -- current value.I believe he is undervalued.
Borat
Footballguy
Very
I don't really care for the Steelers, but Ward is the one guy on that team who I've always respected. He can play for my team any time.
EBF
Footballguy
He's only 31. That's not really that old for a WR these days. He should have 3-4 good years left.
Stunt Rock
Footballguy
He's the most overrated receiver in the NFL...
...in bizarro world.
...in bizarro world.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Fantasy or NFL?Frankly, Ward should outproduce Henry in pretty much any fantasy leagues I'd think going forward, I'd take him over Henry in all formats.For actual NFL value, it's not close.
kupcho1
Footballguy
However, in leagues that reward arrests and drug suspensions, Henry is the clear choice.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Ward won't be the FF WR he was 3-4 years ago but he is a serviceable WR2 and an excellent WR3 the rest of the way. He's been off the radar this season for three reasons:
1) He got hurt mid-way through the Steelers 3rd game of the year against San Fran and missed games against AZ and SEA.
2) In the 3 games he played the Steelers outscored their opponents 97-26. For the most part the Steelers took the air out of the ball in the second half of those games.
3) The Steelers (finally) have other options in their passing game, most notably Santonio Holmes and Heath Miller.
I still think Ward will be their best WR for the remainder of the season and I don't anticipate as many blowout victories. He will have a tough match-up this week against Champ Bailey but Hines handled him well last year (7 recepts for 127 yards) and in the AFC Championship two years ago (5 recepts for 59 yards, 1 TD). Start him if you've got him.
1) He got hurt mid-way through the Steelers 3rd game of the year against San Fran and missed games against AZ and SEA.
2) In the 3 games he played the Steelers outscored their opponents 97-26. For the most part the Steelers took the air out of the ball in the second half of those games.
3) The Steelers (finally) have other options in their passing game, most notably Santonio Holmes and Heath Miller.
I still think Ward will be their best WR for the remainder of the season and I don't anticipate as many blowout victories. He will have a tough match-up this week against Champ Bailey but Hines handled him well last year (7 recepts for 127 yards) and in the AFC Championship two years ago (5 recepts for 59 yards, 1 TD). Start him if you've got him.
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Hines started last year with an injury and still was the 16th rated WR in standard scoring leagues and a few spots higher in PPR leagues.For this year I agree with points 1 and 2 listed above, not so much point 3. Hines had his best years with Plax on the other side and I think Holmes helps him the same way. Miller and the sudden use of the TE could hamper Hines red zone looks but he got plenty the first few weeks.Good info about Hines past matchups with Champ but I'm wondering if Champ would primarily cover Hines or Holmes. Either way, I'm starting Hines this weekend.
He didn't drop a pass... It was high and went off his finger tops as he was jumping as high as he could to catch it. Then he was smiling with his QB who was saying "my bad man". Hines went up over the middle to get a bad pass and get laid out, and you say he is lame for lauging? Give me a break.Anyone else catch Hines smiling and clapping after dropping a pass in the first quarter? I think it happened at least twice.
he's semi underrated... not so much overrated... i mean the guy does it all... sure you have the randy moss's and the TO's and im by no means comparing him to them... their not really blockers... or can help in the run game... not that they need to. But Ward is solid in the real NFL... he lays it out every week... hard worker with great ethics. He's the measuring stick for sure hands and his power as a receiver isn't to shabby either to grind out tough yards. He knows his role on his team and does it without flaw... Fantasy football wise, eh... he's starting to tail off bc holmes is starting to mature as a WR and heath miller has a nose for the end zone.
If i was an NFL manager.. id love him
Fantasy football manager... give me houshmazillie
If i was an NFL manager.. id love him
Fantasy football manager... give me houshmazillie
Steeler
Footballguy
Ward always has a smile on his face... I had no problem with how he handled the dropped pass (one was defected before it got to him, but he dropped an easy catch for a first down on the Steelers 2nd posession).pitbull said:Anyone else catch Hines smiling and clapping after dropping a pass in the first quarter? I think it happened at least twice.
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Yes, I noticed that. Somebody needs to smack that guy upside the head and tell him to wipe that friggin smile off his face. The way he is playing this year, he's got NOTHING to smile about!
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Hit him hard and he will only smile more. He likes it.
