Holcomb traded to Vikes (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing.

Which is why I was SCREAMING (okay, not literally) for them to acquire Kitna a couple seasons back.

 

[Summer Wheat]

I bet he starts by week 4.

Not unless Tarvaris is literally killed.

Tarvaris is not that good.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I bet he starts by week 4.

Not unless Tarvaris is literally killed.

Tarvaris is not that good.

Never said he was. All I'm saying is that he has circumstances on his side.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing. Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace. Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen. That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

The fact that it took Chili this long to realize the above says alot about his coaching abilities, IMO.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

I bet he starts by week 4.

Not unless Tarvaris is literally killed.

Tarvaris is not that good.

How many bad throws have you seen him make this preseason?

 

[w3junky]

I bet he starts by week 4.

Not unless Tarvaris is literally killed.

Tarvaris is not that good.

How many bad throws have you seen him make this preseason?

TJ has actually been decent this preseason, nothing outstanding but not terrible either. But he doesn't need to be outstanding this year. Just do a decent job, let the RB's do their job, and the defense hold it's ground. Of course reg. season is another world, but at least he is showing signs of improving so far.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

I bet he starts by week 4.

Not unless Tarvaris is literally killed.

Tarvaris is not that good.

How many bad throws have you seen him make this preseason?

TJ has actually been decent this preseason, nothing outstanding but not terrible either. But he doesn't need to be outstanding this year. Just do a decent job, let the RB's do their job, and the defense hold it's ground. Of course reg. season is another world, but at least he is showing signs of improving so far.

He's done everything asked of him. Unfortunately, it looks like the offense is going to be ultra-conservative again and the Vikes still don't have a deep threat that can catch. People that haven't seen him play will construe his stat line as inneffectiveness on his part which will be incorrect.

 

[GoBills02]

so if i have this right (and i'm doing it from memory, so I could be wrong)eagles get takeo and the vikings 6th roundervikings get kelly holcombbills get the eagles six rounder (because walker, who the eagles were cutting anyway, never showed)is that really what just happened?

The Bills got something from Chicago for Walker...a conditional draft pick maybe? I don't remember exactly...

And I'll repeat this again. The Bills management had said they were to make off season salary cuts (ie, Spikes, Holcomb, Fletcher FA, Clements FA) Why is everyone so hard on Buffalo here? They ended up getting 2 picks for players that were going to be released. I do hope Takeo rebounds, but in case you missed the Bills last year, Takeo 2006 was about 15 ears older than Takeo 2004.

 

[Donnybrook]

This pickup brings me to another question. I know Drew Hensen got cut today. So the Vikings current QBs are Jackson, Holcomb, Bollinger, and Tyler Thigpen. So, what are the chances that Bollinger gets cut? Zero? I am asking because I would like to see them hold on to Thigpen. Yes, he is a project and may never be an NFL starter, but watching him in the game against St. Louis, I like what Thigpen brings to the table. He has a strong arm and decent mobility. If they cut Thigpen, is it a slam dunk that he clears waivers so the Vikings could place him on the practice squad?

Just wondering...

Vikings | Thigpen likely to practice squad

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:51:17 -0700

Sean Jensen, of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, reports Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress said QB Tyler Thigpen will likely be signed to the practice squad because of the acquisition of QB Kelly Holcomb.

This is my concern as well. I won't be suprised if a team like Atlanta picks Thigpen off waviers. What do they have to lose?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Love him or not, Daunte Culpepper is the highest scoring fantasy QB (per game) in league history (using FBG scoring)...please please PLEASE let's not suggest Tarvaris Jackson has that kind of potential. Tarvaris Jackson reminds me a lot more of Quincy Carter than he does Culpepper.

Rewind 8 years ago.This is the Vikings / Childress plan:Kelly Holcomb = Doug Pederson Tarvaris = Donovan McNabbI'm not saying this is a comparison of talent, but this is the general plan. Bring in the vet who can teach the kid while the HC or OC isn't there, and can hold down the fort if need be.That said, Tarv starts all 16 games barring injury. Why? Well, the Vikings have to move forward. Young WRs, young new RB, young in a lot of places. Letting the 2nd year QB learn on the job may hurt in 2007, but it'll expedite his growth as team leader and as NFL QB to take his lumps this year.Putting Holcomb in if Tarv falters is ridiculous and counter-productive.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

so if i have this right (and i'm doing it from memory, so I could be wrong)eagles get takeo and the vikings 6th roundervikings get kelly holcombbills get the eagles six rounder (because walker, who the eagles were cutting anyway, never showed)is that really what just happened?

I think Eagles get TKO and vikings 6thVikings get HolcombBills get Eagles sixth and the bears 5th as I think they traded Walker to the Bears before his rights reverted to the eagles. Of course, this is also from memoryOk just checked, the pick the Bears sent to Buffalo could be a 4th or a 5th depending on Walker's playing time.

So the Bills helped Philly to improve their 6th round pick from their own to MIN's 6th.TKO for Darwin Walker and a swap of 6ths with MIN. Winner.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I think it's ridiculous for anyone to assume Kelly Holcomb is no threat to Tarvaris Jackson's job. Jackson is as much of a wild card as there is at the QB position this year. The Vikings clearly WANT Jackson to keep the job, but I think the timing of this Holcomb move is more about Bollinger not being a credible alternative, whereas Holcomb at least has some starting experience under his belt.

Then put me in the ridiculous pile. That move makes zero sense for the franchise.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing. Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace. Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen. That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

Two points here - Alex Smith has grown a lot as an NFL QB because of Dilfer.Secondly, Childress traded Hank Baskett for Billy McMillen, who's going to get cut. Baskett would be starting in MIN right now.

 

[Biabreakable]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing. Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace. Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen. That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

The fact that it took Chili this long to realize the above says alot about his coaching abilities, IMO.

What has taken so long for Childress to realize?It seems to me that he is following his plan for rebuilding the team from the very begining. Play good sound defense and aspire towards playing dominant defense. Check.Allocate a lot of resources to the offensive line as a priority over skill position players. Check.Aquire and develop a mobile QB with a strong arm that can be coached. Check. Is TJ the answer long term? No one knows yet. Have to let him play.Be a strong running team to support the defense. Chidress said from the begining this is what he wanted to do. He comes from Philly, WCO, Walrus, Ried coaching tree but his philosophy is not 70% controlled passing plays. He wants a run 1st team and has wanted the offense to function like this from the begining. That is why they aquired Chester last year and now AD this year.So stop cracking on Childress when its obvious your late to the party.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing. Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace. Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen. That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

The fact that it took Chili this long to realize the above says alot about his coaching abilities, IMO.

What has taken so long for Childress to realize?It seems to me that he is following his plan for rebuilding the team from the very begining. Play good sound defense and aspire towards playing dominant defense. Check.Allocate a lot of resources to the offensive line as a priority over skill position players. Check.Aquire and develop a mobile QB with a strong arm that can be coached. Check. Is TJ the answer long term? No one knows yet. Have to let him play.Be a strong running team to support the defense. Chidress said from the begining this is what he wanted to do. He comes from Philly, WCO, Walrus, Ried coaching tree but his philosophy is not 70% controlled passing plays. He wants a run 1st team and has wanted the offense to function like this from the begining. That is why they aquired Chester last year and now AD this year.So stop cracking on Childress when its obvious your late to the party.

I like what Childress is doing and have to disagree with the FBG's daily email that says that Tarvaris is struggling this preseason. He his 19-33 for 212 yards during the preseason with 0 INTs and four passes over 20 yards. A big deal is being made of Bobby Wade having more TD passes than Tarvaris, but I feel that Tarvaris has played well with his only turnover being a botched snap. He has played basically one game overall during the preseason and the TDs will come. One thing that people haven't been talking about is what was announced yesterday - Bevell will call all the plays and I think he has shown that he is a little more willing to throw the ball down the field which will stretch out the secondary a bit and open up more lanes for the RBs. The Viking WRs may not be established but they do have speed, so they need to use this to their advantage.I feel their defense can be dominant this year and the Bears showed that with a dominant D and any kind of offense, anything can happen (yes I think their defense will be comparable to the Bears). I'm not saying they will make the Super Bowl but if the offense steps up a bit, I don't think the playoffs are that far off.

 

[snogger]

Glad they pulled the trigger. TJ had Rich Gannon coaching him during the off season and now he will have Holcomb helping him during the season.

We all know this is rebuilding year. We need the WR's and the QB to mature. Learning from veterans who have been around is the best way to handle that.

Yes, it is only pre-season.. But I have seen TJ improve in his handling of blitzes from last season to last weeks pre-season game.

He didn't seem to panic as much as last year. Even in the first pre-season game this year, when under pressure he tended to tuck it under and run. Last game he stood in the pocket and took his hits while looking to deliver the ball.

This might even be a "pie in the sky" outlook but if he throws for 16 TD's this season I'd say that's a good start.

I expect a 70-30 run vs. pass. They will pass just enough to try and keep the defense's honest.

My hope is when the defense decides to put 8 in the box, TJ is given the opportunity to audible out and take advantage of it.. That is IF our WR's can run the correct routes and catch the ball.

Like I said before.. This will be fun season for me as I have low expectations and am watching to see if the nucleus is there for next year.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Like I said before.. This will be fun season for me as I have low expectations and am watching to see if the nucleus is there for next year.

There is hope. I think TJ could develop into a good, mid-level NFL QB - one good enough to win. And that as soon as next year.I think Sidney Rice is going to develop into a true #1.Obviously AP has the markings of an All-Prn the flip side, I believe Troy Williamson is a lost cause and is now probably the biggest bust in Vikings draft history. Sad too given how much he's worked to get better.

 

[snogger]

Like I said before.. This will be fun season for me as I have low expectations and am watching to see if the nucleus is there for next year.

There is hope. I think TJ could develop into a good, mid-level NFL QB - one good enough to win. And that as soon as next year.I think Sidney Rice is going to develop into a true #1.Obviously AP has the markings of an All-Prn the flip side, I believe Troy Williamson is a lost cause and is now probably the biggest bust in Vikings draft history. Sad too given how much he's worked to get better.

I thought he had a pretty good first pre-season game.. Since then Not sure if it is because he is being covered, not targeted, or has become the forgotten WR out of the 3(Rice, Wade, Williamson).I think the jury is still out. I wouldn't call him a lost cuase unless come the Bye week he is still the forgotten man. Although really.. their only other choice at WR (in the first round at least) that year was someone who is having a hard time staying on the Raiders team.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Although really.. their only other choice at WR (in the first round at least) that year was someone who is having a hard time staying on the Raiders team.

The bigger point is that they didn't HAVE to take a WR at that spot. It was nothing more than a PR move.How much better would that draft had been if they'd taken one of Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, or Jamaal Brown (at that time linebacker was a huge concern) with the first pick and then Mark Clayton with the second of their two first rounders?

They would have even been better off taking the underacheiving Derrick Johnson.

 

[snogger]

Although really.. their only other choice at WR (in the first round at least) that year was someone who is having a hard time staying on the Raiders team.

The bigger point is that they didn't HAVE to take a WR at that spot. It was nothing more than a PR move.How much better would that draft had been if they'd taken one of Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, or Jamaal Brown (at that time linebacker was a huge concern) with the first pick and then Mark Clayton with the second of their two first rounders?

They would have even been better off taking the underacheiving Derrick Johnson.

Never thought they should have gone WR..

Problem was Every local media outlet and Randy fans had it in their heads that it was WR or bust with that pick and Tice & Company fell in line.

 

[Jason Wood]

Love him or not, Daunte Culpepper is the highest scoring fantasy QB (per game) in league history (using FBG scoring)...please please PLEASE let's not suggest Tarvaris Jackson has that kind of potential.

Tarvaris Jackson reminds me a lot more of Quincy Carter than he does Culpepper.

Rewind 8 years ago.This is the Vikings / Childress plan:

Kelly Holcomb = Doug Pederson

Tarvaris = Donovan McNabb

I'm not saying this is a comparison of talent, but this is the general plan. Bring in the vet who can teach the kid while the HC or OC isn't there, and can hold down the fort if need be.

That said, Tarv starts all 16 games barring injury. Why? Well, the Vikings have to move forward. Young WRs, young new RB, young in a lot of places. Letting the 2nd year QB learn on the job may hurt in 2007, but it'll expedite his growth as team leader and as NFL QB to take his lumps this year.

Putting Holcomb in if Tarv falters is ridiculous and counter-productive.

Jeff, teams are under tremendous pressure to win now; and there are precious few QBs that can struggle mightily and be allowed to play through it. Tarvaris Jackson isn't that kind of QB. Regardless of whether it's "counter productive" to the franchise, since when have NFL teams, coaches and personnel executives been immune to making moves that leave us all shaking our heads in incredulity? Also, while I know you're not implying that Jackson = McNabb; and I don't disagree that there are some surface level similarities, if you really think this is an analogous move, it would argue FOR Holcomb getting playing time. The problem I have with this analogy is two-fold...1) McNabb was the 2nd overall pick in what most considered a fantastic QB class, and 2) Pederson started for McNabb until he was ready to grab the reins. Why make this analogy if you think Jackson's job is 100% secure regardless of how he plays?

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing.

Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace.

Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen.

That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

Two points here - Alex Smith has grown a lot as an NFL QB because of Dilfer.

Secondly, Childress traded Hank Baskett for Billy McMillen, who's going to get cut. Baskett would be starting in MIN right now.

While any offensive assistant that's trusted by his head coach has some say in personnel matters on a very basic level, I would be shocked if Brad Childress wasn't way, way, WAYYYYYYYYYY down the totem pole of Eagles personnel decision-makers.

 

[snogger]

The only way TJ gets yanked is if he is out there throwing Multiple Int's per game, getting sacked a lot and fumbling away the ball.

If he plays it "close to the vest" and limits the turnovers I don't think it will matter what the record is.

Sure if they go into the bye week 0-4 then the heat will be on.

But, if as I expect, they are 2-2 or better and TJ doesn't look like this>>> then they will stick with him.

 

[Jason Wood]

The only way TJ gets yanked is if he is out there throwing Multiple Int's per game, getting sacked a lot and fumbling away the ball. If he plays it "close to the vest" and limits the turnovers I don't think it will matter what the record is.Sure if they go into the bye week 0-4 then the heat will be on. But, if as I expect, they are 2-2 or better and TJ doesn't look like this>>> then they will stick with him.

I think that's a very accurate assessment of the most likely scenario.

 

[TeamDingo]

This pickup brings me to another question. I know Drew Hensen got cut today. So the Vikings current QBs are Jackson, Holcomb, Bollinger, and Tyler Thigpen. So, what are the chances that Bollinger gets cut? Zero? I am asking because I would like to see them hold on to Thigpen. Yes, he is a project and may never be an NFL starter, but watching him in the game against St. Louis, I like what Thigpen brings to the table. He has a strong arm and decent mobility. If they cut Thigpen, is it a slam dunk that he clears waivers so the Vikings could place him on the practice squad?

Just wondering...

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/vikings/Holcomb said he knew he was in a “dead-end” situation in Philadelphia and said: “I’m looking forward to going to Minnesota and being a part of something special.”

Holcomb added: “I’ve seen Minnesota some. I think Tarvaris has a lot of ability. I think it could end up being a special team. I’ve been around awhile, so I’ve learned some things. Hopefully, I can come into that quarterback room and share some knowledge and help those guys out.”

Holcomb said the Seattle Seahawks made a late bid for his services as well, but coming to Minnesota “didn’t surprise me at all.

“I looked at the situation and realized they didn’t have a lot of experience at quarterback,” he said.

The Eagles run a similar offense to the Vikings, and Holcomb should be able to make a fairly smooth transition. In Philadelphia, he was stuck behind Donovan McNabb, A.J. Feeley and rookie Kevin Kolb — the “dead-end” situation Holcomb referred to.

The Falcons and Patriots were both said to be interested in picking him up, too, before the Vikings made today’s move.

The move comes two days after backup Brooks Bollinger struggled against Seattle. Childress, however, said Bollinger definitely would have a spot on the 53-man roster. “Probably what it means is Tyler Thigpen would be a potential practice squad [guy],” Childress said.

Holcomb, 34, is in his 11th NFL season. He started eight games for Cleveland in 2003. Holcomb is expected to arrive in the Twin Cities tonight and will need to pass a physical.

Bollinger and Holcomb are both expected to play in Thursday night’s exhibition finale against Dallas at the Metrodome. Jackson will play the first series, along with the rest of the Vikings’ starters, but that likely will be it for the first-team guys.

If you’re wondering what it took the Vikings to get Bollinger around this time last season, he was traded to the Jets for defensive tackle C.J. Mosley and a late-round draft pick. Bollinger also was given a contract extension through 2008 by the Vikings.

http://vikingsnow.blogspot.com/

Vikings coach Brad Childress on Monday named second-year quarterback Tarvaris Jackson the starter, then he confirmed the acquisition of veteran Kelly Holcomb from the Philadelphia Eagles.

The move would bump Tyler Thigpen, a seventh-round pick out of Coastal Carolina, to the practice squad, Childress said.

Childress wouldn't say whether Holcomb had the edge over incumbent Brooks Bollinger for the No. 2 spot. But clearly Bollinger hasn't endeared himself with a poor preseason, including his two-pick performance Saturday in Seattle.

"I think it’s important that you have the right mix of people in the room, in the quarterback room, and that everybody understands what their role is," Childress said.

Childress pointed out that he had a conversation on Saturday with Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren, who also knows Eagles head coach Andy Reid well.

"Mike was good enough to say, ‘So are you interested in this guy too?’ " Childress said of Holcomb. " 'Let’s not let the big guy work us. Let’s get our egos out the way.’ So we had a pretty good conversation about that."

Childress said Bollinger, though, is assured of a roster spot.

"I’m not just going to say it’s an open competition for the second and third (quarterback spots)," Childress said. "I just want to make sure we got insurance -- and who's up and who's down, we’ll make those determinations as we go.

"Just adding another good football player," Childress later said. "Like I told Tarvaris, ‘You know how fast you get to No. 3.’ And if you get to No. 3, everybody expects that guy to win too. I think that’s probably it more than anything."

Jackson will likely play one series Thursday against the Dallas Cowboys at the Metrodome, then he will be replaced by Bollinger. Childress said Holcomb likely will play as well.

Holcomb is expected to be at practice Tuesday.

Here is what Bollinger had to say after practice:

On what this trade means for him: "I don't know. It means I'm going to show up tomorrow and do exactly what I've been doing since I got here. Like I've told you guys, there's a lot when you're in this league that you can't control."

On if he is disappointed: "I'm just trying to continue to compete and do everything I can to help this team get better. You've just got to look at it as competition and continue to move forward."

On if he wants to be somewhere else: "I'm always glad to have the opportunity to be a part of this football team. Like I said, I'm just going to fight to do everything I can to help this team and organization be better."

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

They had to get some kind of veteran in there for Jackson. I still hold to the Trent Dilfer Theory. You get the right kind of veteran QB in with a rookie QB and more often than not, the rookie starts to mature as a player. I don't know if Holcomb is a mentor in the mold of Dilfer, but some kind of veteran experience has to be better than nothing. Starting Jackson is the right move. See what the kid has in him. The running game and the D might be good enough to let the kid learn on a more controlled pace. Whether Jackson is the right QB remains to be seen. That WR corps is pretty rancid, but consider what the Iggles had for so long. I'm sure Childress had some influence over what WRs he was getting over with the Eagles, maybe he's bringing that bad WR juju with him to Minnesota. Hopefully Childress sees his Vikings personnel might be more suited to smash mouth than the dinking and dunking crap that Philly uses.

The fact that it took Chili this long to realize the above says alot about his coaching abilities, IMO.

What has taken so long for Childress to realize?It seems to me that he is following his plan for rebuilding the team from the very begining. Play good sound defense and aspire towards playing dominant defense. Check.Allocate a lot of resources to the offensive line as a priority over skill position players. Check.Aquire and develop a mobile QB with a strong arm that can be coached. Check. Is TJ the answer long term? No one knows yet. Have to let him play.Be a strong running team to support the defense. Chidress said from the begining this is what he wanted to do. He comes from Philly, WCO, Walrus, Ried coaching tree but his philosophy is not 70% controlled passing plays. He wants a run 1st team and has wanted the offense to function like this from the begining. That is why they aquired Chester last year and now AD this year.So stop cracking on Childress when its obvious your late to the party.

Huh? I'm not even sure what you're saying above. My point was simply that, as a Viking fan, I want a veteran that can mentor Tarvaris behind him on the depth chart. All offseason I have been bewildered by how managament didn't see a need for a quality veteran backup. The fact that it took this long for them to realize this speaks volumes.

 

[snogger]

Nice story over on USAtoday.com about TJ.. I especially liked this part:

Jackson coupled his offseason training regimen in Montgomery, Ala., with many hours of watching tape and absorbing the nuances of the playbook. Now he's trying to get that to translate into results on the field and to understand that progress can be halting.

"It's complex but you've got to study your craft, you've got to try to be good at what you do. You can't just do it at practice and then go home and not open your book," he says. "The mental part is the hardest part. When you have a bad day, you have to block it out. When you have a good day, you have to move on."

Sounds like a good young person who realizes it won't come easy and is willing to put in the work needed to succeed. Hopefully it works out

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...7-Jackson_N.htm