Housh is on pace for 156 catches (1 Viewer)

[tombonneau]

Obviously he won't keep up this pace, but even at 20% of this rate Housh is going to likely catch 120 balls. Depending on how quickly Henry gets worked back into the offense, he could make a serious run at Marvin's single season record.

Of course you won't hear anything about him because the guy playing opposite him is a rodeo clown, but from a FF perspective, Housh could easily finish better than CJ. He almost certainly will in ppr.

Anyway, just wanted to recognize the quietest fantastic start to a FF WR season.

 

[jbz]

i think Randy Moss is on pace for 200+

 

[[scooter]]

CHAMPIONSHIP!!

 

[SSOG]

i think Randy Moss is on pace for 200+

But everyone KNOWS that. Moss is hardly flying under the radar right now, but Housh definitely is.

 

[greyone]

Randy is on pace for 140 targets and 120 catches....now that is nuts.

 

[Despyzer]

Of course you won't hear anything about him because the guy playing opposite him is a rodeo clown, but from a FF perspective, Housh could easily finish better than CJ. He almost certainly will in ppr.

In non-FF, he had more catches for more TDs last year than that goofball that lines up on the other side.

 

[Filthy]

Of course you won't hear anything about him because the guy playing opposite him is a rodeo clown, but from a FF perspective, Housh could easily finish better than CJ. He almost certainly will in ppr.

In non-FF, he had more catches for more TDs last year than that goofball that lines up on the other side.

That's one of the reasons why T.J. has more; Chad runs his mouth and defenses focus on him.

 

[Football Menace]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

 

[the spanker]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

 

[Bigdaddy1]

Did anyone notice Housh limping off the field after the last play last night? I know he's been nursing an injury and has a bye week to heal up but he looked to be in some pain. Did anyone hear anything about this?

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

hows this for quiet? Derrick Mason has 33 catches through 4 games for a pace of 132 catches on the year.

Gates has the exact same number. Housh, Mason, and Gates will all probably exceed 100 catches on the year. Mason would be the only longshot of the group and with the injury status of Clayton and now Heap i dont expect him to slow down too much.

Records are going to fall this year. How many TDs is Moss going to get?

 

[[scooter]]

hows this for quiet? Derrick Mason has 33 catches through 4 games for a pace of 132 catches on the year. Gates has the exact same number. Housh, Mason, and Gates will all probably exceed 100 catches on the year. Mason would be the only longshot of the group and with the injury status of Clayton and now Heap i dont expect him to slow down too much.

Mason = quiet professional for 10 years.

 

[RBM]

Housh has more targets, catches and tds than Chad this year. The yards are a bit lopsided because of the 200 yard effort by Chad, but if the targets continue the way they are going, those yards are going to tighten up.

Housh might be more valuable than Chad J right now.

I know alot of people wont want to accept it, but its hard to argue with the #s

 

[The Ref]

Did anyone notice Housh limping off the field after the last play last night? I know he's been nursing an injury and has a bye week to heal up but he looked to be in some pain. Did anyone hear anything about this?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

hows this for quiet? Derrick Mason has 33 catches through 4 games for a pace of 132 catches on the year. Gates has the exact same number. Housh, Mason, and Gates will all probably exceed 100 catches on the year. Mason would be the only longshot of the group and with the injury status of Clayton and now Heap i dont expect him to slow down too much.

Mason = quiet professional for 10 years.

Apparently you mised his rants end of last year and this offseason

 

[SuperJohn96]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

9 of 16 games is only technically 1 game better.If one of those 9 went Chad's way, they'd be be better in 8 games each.I agree that Housh is undervalued. They're a 1a/1b set...But 9 of 16 games better isn't a really strong stat to use your point.

 

[tdoublebb]

Housh has more targets, catches and tds than Chad this year. The yards are a bit lopsided because of the 200 yard effort by Chad, but if the targets continue the way they are going, those yards are going to tighten up. Housh might be more valuable than Chad J right now. I know alot of people wont want to accept it, but its hard to argue with the #s

I would gladly take Housh over Johnson, any day .........I prefer quiet consistency over the "sexy pick"

 

[BassNBrew]

Still early, but boy was I ridiculed for preaching that TJ was the best WR in Cinny and having him in my top 5.

 

[Worm]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

9 of 16 games is only technically 1 game better.If one of those 9 went Chad's way, they'd be be better in 8 games each.

I agree that Housh is undervalued. They're a 1a/1b set...

But 9 of 16 games better isn't a really strong stat to use your point.

It wouldn't be if they were being drafted right next to each other, but that wasn't the case. Housh was being drafted a round or two later than CJ.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

TJ Houshmandzadeh is averaging less than 10 yards a catch so far this season. It'd be pretty funny if he had over 100 catches and less than a 1000 yards.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Housh was my number 5 ranked WR behind Smith, Ocho, Owens and Harrison. Got him in round 3 of a one player keeper league. To say I was pleased would be an understatement.

Of course we won't talk about the Lee Evans pick I made later that round (I had two 3rds due to a trade).........

 

[SSOG]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

9 of 16 games is only technically 1 game better.If one of those 9 went Chad's way, they'd be be better in 8 games each.I agree that Housh is undervalued. They're a 1a/1b set...But 9 of 16 games better isn't a really strong stat to use your point.

Housh missed two games, so he really outproduced Chad Johnson in 9 of 14 games where both played.

 

[4 - Digit Shark]

I had Ocho Cinco last season, and that's why I passed on him this year. Most of Johnson's production last season came in two games, making him wildly inconsistent. Housh is much more consistent. IIRC, Housh outproduced Johnson in 9 of 16 games last season (In my league). That's why I waited two rounds later and drafted him instead.

9 of 16 games is only technically 1 game better.If one of those 9 went Chad's way, they'd be be better in 8 games each.

I agree that Housh is undervalued. They're a 1a/1b set...

But 9 of 16 games better isn't a really strong stat to use your point.

9 out of 16 games isn't a really strong stat to use, but 10 out of 14 is! TJ played only 14 games last year. According to FBG scoring, he out producted Chad in 10 of the 14 games they both played in from week 3 to week 17. Also in those 14 games, he only had 2 less targets then Chad (135 to 133) but 3 more receptions (90 to 87) and 3 more TD's (9 to 6). Most importantly, TJ outscored Chad 162.7 to 161.3, in the 14 games in which they both played.You are correct in saying that they are 1a/1b, but TJ is 1a and Chad is 1b in FFB. At least that's how it played out last year. Drafting Chad where one would of had to, compared to drafting TJ where he was available was a bad move, period. The stats from last year, and the start of this season show that very clearly. Some just fail to see it, because Chad generates so much attention, he must be better.

 

[massmarauder]

I doubt this will change things much, but Palmer and the circus clown were jawing at each other going in to halftime last night, if Palmer is spiteful, he might target Housh more. Yes, this is silly, but I want to prove that my preseason claim that Housh would have more TDs, receptions, and yardage than Johnson was right.

 

[Norwood...Wide Right!]

Did anyone notice Housh limping off the field after the last play last night? I know he's been nursing an injury and has a bye week to heal up but he looked to be in some pain. Did anyone hear anything about this?

Posted this last night:Not exactly a medical opinion or an absolute assurance of good health, but Housh was basically dismissive when asked about the hit he took during the int. at the end when he limped off the field. The video link should be on the middle right of the home page and he's asked about the hit about halfway through. As a fellow T.J. owner, just wanted to pass this along.

Link

 

[the spanker]

Did anyone notice Housh limping off the field after the last play last night? I know he's been nursing an injury and has a bye week to heal up but he looked to be in some pain. Did anyone hear anything about this?

Posted this last night:Not exactly a medical opinion or an absolute assurance of good health, but Housh was basically dismissive when asked about the hit he took during the int. at the end when he limped off the field. The video link should be on the middle right of the home page and he's asked about the hit about halfway through. As a fellow T.J. owner, just wanted to pass this along.

Link

Well even if he got dinged it can't be anything too serious because he was talking to the media. Plus he's on his bye week to heal up

 

[Real Man of Genius]

Of course you won't hear anything about him because the guy playing opposite him is a rodeo clown, but from a FF perspective, Housh could easily finish better than CJ. He almost certainly will in ppr.

In non-FF, he had more catches for more TDs last year than that goofball that lines up on the other side.

That's one of the reasons why T.J. has more; Chad runs his mouth and defenses focus on him.

Actually, its because Chad is better and defenses focus on him. We've all seen what he does when they don't.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Housh has more targets, catches and tds than Chad this year. The yards are a bit lopsided because of the 200 yard effort by Chad, but if the targets continue the way they are going, those yards are going to tighten up. Housh might be more valuable than Chad J right now. I know alot of people wont want to accept it, but its hard to argue with the #s

Dang it, shhhh! I'll never be able to get Housh again at 4.1 with all this talk about him!!!-QG

 

[LMF]

Housh has more targets, catches and tds than Chad this year. The yards are a bit lopsided because of the 200 yard effort by Chad, but if the targets continue the way they are going, those yards are going to tighten up. Housh might be more valuable than Chad J right now. I know alot of people wont want to accept it, but its hard to argue with the #s

CJ is out producing Housh in a non PPR. Depends on the league scoring really. IMO CJ will finish with more FP than Housh this year.

 

[tombonneau]

Housh has more targets, catches and tds than Chad this year. The yards are a bit lopsided because of the 200 yard effort by Chad, but if the targets continue the way they are going, those yards are going to tighten up. Housh might be more valuable than Chad J right now. I know alot of people wont want to accept it, but its hard to argue with the #s

CJ is out producing Housh in a non PPR. Depends on the league scoring really. IMO CJ will finish with more FP than Housh this year.

CJ very well could, even in PPR; however, given there was a two round disparity between their ADP, TJ is once again the WR value play of fantasy drafts (same as last year).About the only guy in that tier who is outperforming his ADP is Moss.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

These threads are stupid. If CJ has a great game next week, and Housh posts a so-so effort, is Chad all of a sudden better? If Chad finishes with better stats and with less game to game variance than Housh, does that mean he's better? 1/4 a season or an entire season does not determine value.

The reason why most like Chad a bit more right now is because he's an established star -- consistency breeds respect. Oh and it doesn't hurt that Chad's having a career year.

To think Housh is better than CJ (who's enjoying his best season statistically) is an exaggerated response through the first four games. When Housh does what he's been doing lately for years, then you'll see him taken at CJ's level or above.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

One thing that CJ gives you every year that Housh does not is 16 games.

The other thing to look at is what happens when Henry comes back. If you look at last year, in games 3-7 (4 games when Henry didn't play but Housh and CJ did), these were their stats (Targ--Rec--yds--TDs):

Housh -- 44--30--352--4

CJ ------ 40--19--247--0

Housh clearly outperformed CJ, likely because, as one person already pointed out, CJ was getting the double coverage. But, when all 3 WR's played in games 8-17 (10 games), take a look at the stats:

Housh -- 89--60--729--5

CJ ------ 95--57--996--6

CJ clearly received the benefit of Henry drawing attention. So, when (if) Henry returns, we'll likely see a shift in the current production from Housh to CJ.