How big of a boost for ADP in PPR (1 Viewer)

[Birdnals]

Now that Captain Checkkdown appears to be going to Minnesota, how much of a boost could this be for ADP? Could easily see this being big for him in that not only will he most likely be getting more looks in the passing game, but teams won't be able to stack the box as much like they wouldv'e had Ponder been under center. I'm not going out on much a of a limb here, I know, but I think it could push perhaps the safest first round pick to #1 draft/finish in PPR leagues.

 

[sihaokills]

I think it is very helpful with a proven QB like McNabb. He should be the #1 pick in most drafts now

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I think it is a a good bump for ADP and not just because of the check downs....DM is a proven QB and can move the chains....I know he throws some balls low, etc....(rather have them low than high, but thats another discussion)....and I think DM throws a decent enough down the field/deep ball that it will keep teams honest....not sure if this automatically makes ADP a to receiving back, but helps his overall value...

wonder if Rice likes this enough to consider staying....?

 

[Birdnals]

I think it is a a good bump for ADP and not just because of the check downs....DM is a proven QB and can move the chains....I know he throws some balls low, etc....(rather have them low than high, but thats another discussion)....and I think DM throws a decent enough down the field/deep ball that it will keep teams honest....not sure if this automatically makes ADP a to receiving back, but helps his overall value...

wonder if Rice likes this enough to consider staying....?

I didn't mean to de-emphasize this part, I just think the same could've been said about Favre (obviously not Ponder though). On the making ADP a receiving back, I will throw this point out: ADP averaged 40 rec a year with Favre. Not bad numbers for someone we don't generally think of as a non receiving back catching balls from a gunslinger who doesn't really have a history of assing to RBs. I really think it's possible the addition of McNabb could mean an additional 15+ rec. Can you imagine ADP with his rushing numbers, goal line opportunities, and pushing 60 rec? I'm salivating...

 

[thriftyrocker]

Will be interesting if Shiancoe or Rudolph have any redraft value now

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think this definitely puts AP in the conversation to be the #1 overall fantasy pick.

 

[jbobbett]

Can he catch balls at his ankles?

 

[the spanker]

Can he catch balls at his ankles?

Yes...Yes he can.

 

[adrenaline]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Can he catch balls at his ankles?

Yes...Yes he can.

He can catch them WITH his ankles.urplejesus:

 

[the spanker]

Can he catch balls at his ankles?

Yes...Yes he can.

He can catch them WITH his ankles.urplejesus:

You got it bro. How quickly they forget.

 

[kinglochness]

I have the same problem in a non-ppr. CJ has no team around him and might be holding out. Foster is in the best offense of the three, but he won't catch anyone by surprise this year. Now Peterson has a passing game to keep defenses honest. It's obviously going to depend on what happens with Rice. I think if rice stays, Peterson edges Foster out.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

I have the same problem in a non-ppr. CJ has no team around him and might be holding out. Foster is in the best offense of the three, but he won't catch anyone by surprise this year. Now Peterson has a passing game to keep defenses honest. It's obviously going to depend on what happens with Rice. I think if rice stays, Peterson edges Foster out.

Peterson should probably already edge him out, regardless of what happens with Rice, because of how consistently studly the guy has been over the years. I suppose Foster's upside may be a little higher, but I'll take the consistency from whoever I'm taking at #1.

 

[eoMMan]

I really don't like Peterson this year. McNabb just isn't as good as he used to be (how good he used to be is debatable) and ADP now has a lot of carries on his body.

I'm not suggesting pass on him completely, but I wouldn't take him in the top couple spots.

 

[Sweet Love]

Can he catch balls at his ankles?

Yes...Yes he can.

He can catch them WITH his ankles.urplejesus:

Considering Chuck Norris will be cowering at his feet on every play, I feel a bunch of balls per game will bounce off the martial arts king's noggin, straight into the hands of ADP...without him even having to break stride.

 

[shortbow]

I think Peterson catches the same amount of balls regardless of QB situation, hes only caught like 100 in his entire NFL career, not much of a PPR back.

 

[glong989]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

The second part may be true, but that would also lead to many more three and outs or shorter drives which would decrease APs opportunities. That would also lead to the D crowding the line. A serviceable QB always increases a RB like ADPs value because it keeps defenses honest. Foster may have a bit more upside and has the best offense around him, but I don't see him coming close to the amount of TDs and receptions from last year. I'll take AP please.

 

[adrenaline]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

The second part may be true, but that would also lead to many more three and outs or shorter drives which would decrease APs opportunities. That would also lead to the D crowding the line. A serviceable QB always increases a RB like ADPs value because it keeps defenses honest. Foster may have a bit more upside and has the best offense around him, but I don't see him coming close to the amount of TDs and receptions from last year. I'll take AP please.

I agree with this, I would take CJ3 in PPR 1st though.

 

[shortbow]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

The second part may be true, but that would also lead to many more three and outs or shorter drives which would decrease APs opportunities. That would also lead to the D crowding the line. A serviceable QB always increases a RB like ADPs value because it keeps defenses honest. Foster may have a bit more upside and has the best offense around him, but I don't see him coming close to the amount of TDs and receptions from last year. I'll take AP please.

I agree with this, I would take CJ3 in PPR 1st though.

Not that it matters, but I have CJ and Rice tied for first in PPR, Foster is 3rd Peterson 4th.

 

[adrenaline]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

The second part may be true, but that would also lead to many more three and outs or shorter drives which would decrease APs opportunities. That would also lead to the D crowding the line. A serviceable QB always increases a RB like ADPs value because it keeps defenses honest. Foster may have a bit more upside and has the best offense around him, but I don't see him coming close to the amount of TDs and receptions from last year. I'll take AP please.

I agree with this, I would take CJ3 in PPR 1st though.

Not that it matters, but I have CJ and Rice tied for first in PPR, Foster is 3rd Peterson 4th.

CJ3, ADP, Foster, Charles, Rice

 

[shortbow]

This really doesn't make a difference to me. It can be argued that McNabb is a better QB than Ponder at this point in their careers, it can also be argued that the Vikes would run it more with Ponder & that he would checkdown more often.

The second part may be true, but that would also lead to many more three and outs or shorter drives which would decrease APs opportunities. That would also lead to the D crowding the line. A serviceable QB always increases a RB like ADPs value because it keeps defenses honest. Foster may have a bit more upside and has the best offense around him, but I don't see him coming close to the amount of TDs and receptions from last year. I'll take AP please.

I agree with this, I would take CJ3 in PPR 1st though.

Not that it matters, but I have CJ and Rice tied for first in PPR, Foster is 3rd Peterson 4th.

CJ3, ADP, Foster, Charles, Rice

Its so ridiculous, ive never seen an elite top 5 rb rated so poorly than rice. There isnt a better pass catching back in the league, the only thing holding him back is gone and they have a softer than 2010 chiefs schedule this year.

 

[adrenaline]

Not that it matters, but I have CJ and Rice tied for first in PPR, Foster is 3rd Peterson 4th.

CJ3, ADP, Foster, Charles, Rice

Its so ridiculous, ive never seen an elite top 5 rb rated so poorly than rice. There isnt a better pass catching back in the league, the only thing holding him back is gone and they have a softer than 2010 chiefs schedule this year.

For me it's more the talent of the guys I have ahead of him than it is Rice, I like him fine. McGahee didn't put up huge #s last season, I could see the bigger piece of that small pie going to other backups.