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How 'bout them COWBOYS? (1 Viewer)

This is a different team without Romo. I know that is pretty obvious but I think today just showed that this team is basically a polished turd with Romo in there and just a plain old turd without him.

The defense is awful. The pass rush is solid but the corners are terrible. Newman wasn't right when he did get in there. Pacman was a huge disappointment even when he was on the field. Jenkins is a rookie who needs more playing time. Anthony Henry is a great corner when he is playing against bigger receivers but he should be a safety.

I have a feeling that Ty Law is already on his way to Dallas. I heard rumblings about that before the game this week.

 
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.

 
Slider said:
They can fire Phillips tomorrow but I have a sneaking suspicion Jason Garrett is just as bad. :wall:
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The defense sucks really bad= Phillips fault (Stewarts fault) Phillips was supposed to be this defensive master. I have seen nothing in the past two seasons that would lead anyone to believe that.The offensive game plan has been bad on more than one occasion= Garrett's faultNo reason to fire anyone yet. The team has been playing bad but I am not ready to panic just yet. Get Romo back in there and get some guys healthy and then if they still suck, I may panic. Being a Cowboys fan my whole life, I am just starting to accept it. This season I had such hope though......
 
I am a ilfelong, diehard Cowboys fan who has watched every single Cowboys game since 1988. What I'm about to say pains me greatly, as I was one of many who were duped into thinking this team was cut from Super Bowl timber. The essence of the Cowboys problems begins with Jerry Jones. A close examination of the empirical data shows that Jones, when left to his own devices, without a strong, counterbalancng figure, such as Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells, does a poor job constructing a football team. Jones dictates policy, personnel, and I'd bet, even play calling when a strong head coach or GM is not in place. Look at the record; Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Barry Switzer, and now Wade Phillips- all disasters, and why...not because these are unintelligent football coaches, but because each does not carry the cache and credibility to tell Jerry Jones to stay out of the business of the day to day football operations. Look at this past weeks trade for Roy Williams...3 picks for a talented, but inconsistently productive football player, 45 million in salary, for an edge player. Wide receivers ARE NOT centrally important to building a championship football team. They are lots of fun and great for fantasy football purposes, but what Jerry Jones has done is create a roto football team that lacks character, discipline, and constitution.

Wade Phillips is another problem. This team, on both sides of the ball, lacks discipline. The pass defense continues to be just plain ol terrible. Holding penalties, Pass interference penalties, the list runs on and on. Phillips seems to be affable enough, a decent guy who is well liked by the players, but he is not a leader. Tom Coughlin is a leader. Bill Bellichick is a leader. They may not be well liked, but they instill discipline in their players, and eventually...players by in.

Jerry Jones got lucky with Jimmy Johnson and was fortunate to have Bill Parcells (although more for personnel decisions than for his coaching...which clearly regressed in Dallas). Until Jerry Jones sells the Cowboys, this team will not win a championship. I admire JJs drive and zeal for the Cowboys, but he, more than any other force, is responsible for the Cowboys demise. I hereby put the RIP symbol on the 2008 Dallas Cowboys season. Maybe next year.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
 
Wow! We've fallen hard and fast! 4 games is a trend and it's UGLY!

QB

Romo has been "off" for a few weeks. He seemed intent when in to wait forever to throw the pass. Results was sacks or dump offs. He's changed his style. I don't think I've seen him run for more than 5 yds this year. He would scare opponents in prior yrs. with taking off or at least moving up in the pocket and dumping off. Now he stands like he thinks he's Brady.

WR's

Making Romo wait. Not getting open at all. Owens is getting jammed at the line and not working hard enough to get seperation early. Austin, Hurd and Crayton are all hit or miss WR#2's. They don't scare anyone enough to back off Owens. Roy Williams will help that but take a few weeks to become involved.

TE

Witten

Stud, very rarely out of position or dropping balls. Almost always clutch catching to bail out offense on 3rd down.

"o" line

WTF - where did they go? Romo was crushed last week. They just seem to have lost confidence. Stupid penalties as always.

Def.

Where's WADE? He's supposed to be a defensive guru and I don't see it other than Ware! He has no FIRE to get these guys motivated.

Line - Playing OK but giving up to much lately and can't get off the field.

ILB's - Zach is not 25 and playing OK for his age. James-Need to really be the emotional leader

OLB - Playiong well.

Secondary - Ouch! Without Newman and Pacman now, it's scary. Scandrick and Jenkins are raw and need backup roles, not starting roles to gain necessary experience.

Safety- Playing OK.

Coaching

Wade, nice guy but you're not pulling your weight!!! Stop looking like you're taking a crap in your pants on the sideline and get the hell in the face of some players. Show some damn emotion during a game. He reminds me of Chan Gailey, Dave Campo etc... nice 5-11 coaches but not WINNERS!

Jason"the wonder boy" Garrett - After a few weeks everyone figured out his playcalling and he's average now. How else can you explain the offensive talent on this team playing so poorly? Up until Romo's injury, they've been healthy and totally out of sync. What if they weren't as healthy?

Defensive coached should be updating their resume

Special teams coaching should be fired immediately!

Now for the good news....

It's still not half way through the season.

Romo will be back soon

 
The most amazing thing is that they went into the season with Brad Johnson as their backup QB. This guy was done in 2004. I remember the Bucs had a SNF game against Oakland and he lobbed (and I mean, loooobed) two of the worst interceptions I've ever seen. He just had no more arm strength. That was his last game in Tampa.

That was four years ago. What is Dallas thinking?

GB him for 2002, but he's finished.

 
Ack88 said:
I am a ilfelong, diehard Cowboys fan who has watched every single Cowboys game since 1988. What I'm about to say pains me greatly, as I was one of many who were duped into thinking this team was cut from Super Bowl timber. The essence of the Cowboys problems begins with Jerry Jones. A close examination of the empirical data shows that Jones, when left to his own devices, without a strong, counterbalancng figure, such as Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells, does a poor job constructing a football team. Jones dictates policy, personnel, and I'd bet, even play calling when a strong head coach or GM is not in place. Look at the record; Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Barry Switzer, and now Wade Phillips- all disasters, and why...not because these are unintelligent football coaches, but because each does not carry the cache and credibility to tell Jerry Jones to stay out of the business of the day to day football operations. Look at this past weeks trade for Roy Williams...3 picks for a talented, but inconsistently productive football player, 45 million in salary, for an edge player. Wide receivers ARE NOT centrally important to building a championship football team. They are lots of fun and great for fantasy football purposes, but what Jerry Jones has done is create a roto football team that lacks character, discipline, and constitution.Wade Phillips is another problem. This team, on both sides of the ball, lacks discipline. The pass defense continues to be just plain ol terrible. Holding penalties, Pass interference penalties, the list runs on and on. Phillips seems to be affable enough, a decent guy who is well liked by the players, but he is not a leader. Tom Coughlin is a leader. Bill Bellichick is a leader. They may not be well liked, but they instill discipline in their players, and eventually...players by in.Jerry Jones got lucky with Jimmy Johnson and was fortunate to have Bill Parcells (although more for personnel decisions than for his coaching...which clearly regressed in Dallas). Until Jerry Jones sells the Cowboys, this team will not win a championship. I admire JJs drive and zeal for the Cowboys, but he, more than any other force, is responsible for the Cowboys demise. I hereby put the RIP symbol on the 2008 Dallas Cowboys season. Maybe next year.
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Take a chill pill dude. I'm all for a new head coach who instills discipline. Bill Cowher and Mike Singletary come to mind. But you have Jerry Jones selling the team now? Dallas has won more Superbowls under Jones' ownership than it had ever won. He's an oil man, riverboat gambler. I like an owner who isn't afraid to spend on his team. The problem lies in the coaching.
 
BigDave said:
It's still not half way through the season. Romo will be back soon
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:goodposting: I still think this team can get it together and win 10 games. That only means 6 of the last 10. Hopefully we can pull that off. :jawdrop: I am definately disappointed to say the least though.
 
enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
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Its all about their clownful image, Jethro Jones and their uber-toolish fans as was stated above :rolleyes:
 
Broadway Joe said:
enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
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Its all about their clownful image, Jethro Jones and their uber-toolish fans as was stated above :popcorn:
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Its people like you that cause this type of stuff. Coming in to a thread just to say something stupid like this only provokes fights. :rant:
 
Ack88 said:
I am a ilfelong, diehard Cowboys fan who has watched every single Cowboys game since 1988. What I'm about to say pains me greatly, as I was one of many who were duped into thinking this team was cut from Super Bowl timber. The essence of the Cowboys problems begins with Jerry Jones. A close examination of the empirical data shows that Jones, when left to his own devices, without a strong, counterbalancng figure, such as Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells, does a poor job constructing a football team. Jones dictates policy, personnel, and I'd bet, even play calling when a strong head coach or GM is not in place. Look at the record; Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Barry Switzer, and now Wade Phillips- all disasters, and why...not because these are unintelligent football coaches, but because each does not carry the cache and credibility to tell Jerry Jones to stay out of the business of the day to day football operations. Look at this past weeks trade for Roy Williams...3 picks for a talented, but inconsistently productive football player, 45 million in salary, for an edge player. Wide receivers ARE NOT centrally important to building a championship football team. They are lots of fun and great for fantasy football purposes, but what Jerry Jones has done is create a roto football team that lacks character, discipline, and constitution.Wade Phillips is another problem. This team, on both sides of the ball, lacks discipline. The pass defense continues to be just plain ol terrible. Holding penalties, Pass interference penalties, the list runs on and on. Phillips seems to be affable enough, a decent guy who is well liked by the players, but he is not a leader. Tom Coughlin is a leader. Bill Bellichick is a leader. They may not be well liked, but they instill discipline in their players, and eventually...players by in.Jerry Jones got lucky with Jimmy Johnson and was fortunate to have Bill Parcells (although more for personnel decisions than for his coaching...which clearly regressed in Dallas). Until Jerry Jones sells the Cowboys, this team will not win a championship. I admire JJs drive and zeal for the Cowboys, but he, more than any other force, is responsible for the Cowboys demise. I hereby put the RIP symbol on the 2008 Dallas Cowboys season. Maybe next year.
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Be careful. You talk like this and you get labelled a "hater" around here.
 
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.

 
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
 
bye bye band wagon fans!

ok. this team aint good right now. the o-line is getting creamed. the D line is average at best. and the secondary is pathetic.

my prediction is the Cowboys struggle throught the season and Wade gets fired. Cowher will the Cowboys HC next yr.

 
Big Daddy Kane said:
Ack88 said:
I am a ilfelong, diehard Cowboys fan who has watched every single Cowboys game since 1988. What I'm about to say pains me greatly, as I was one of many who were duped into thinking this team was cut from Super Bowl timber. The essence of the Cowboys problems begins with Jerry Jones. A close examination of the empirical data shows that Jones, when left to his own devices, without a strong, counterbalancng figure, such as Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells, does a poor job constructing a football team. Jones dictates policy, personnel, and I'd bet, even play calling when a strong head coach or GM is not in place. Look at the record; Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Barry Switzer, and now Wade Phillips- all disasters, and why...not because these are unintelligent football coaches, but because each does not carry the cache and credibility to tell Jerry Jones to stay out of the business of the day to day football operations. Look at this past weeks trade for Roy Williams...3 picks for a talented, but inconsistently productive football player, 45 million in salary, for an edge player. Wide receivers ARE NOT centrally important to building a championship football team. They are lots of fun and great for fantasy football purposes, but what Jerry Jones has done is create a roto football team that lacks character, discipline, and constitution.Wade Phillips is another problem. This team, on both sides of the ball, lacks discipline. The pass defense continues to be just plain ol terrible. Holding penalties, Pass interference penalties, the list runs on and on. Phillips seems to be affable enough, a decent guy who is well liked by the players, but he is not a leader. Tom Coughlin is a leader. Bill Bellichick is a leader. They may not be well liked, but they instill discipline in their players, and eventually...players by in.Jerry Jones got lucky with Jimmy Johnson and was fortunate to have Bill Parcells (although more for personnel decisions than for his coaching...which clearly regressed in Dallas). Until Jerry Jones sells the Cowboys, this team will not win a championship. I admire JJs drive and zeal for the Cowboys, but he, more than any other force, is responsible for the Cowboys demise. I hereby put the RIP symbol on the 2008 Dallas Cowboys season. Maybe next year.
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Take a chill pill dude. I'm all for a new head coach who instills discipline. Bill Cowher and Mike Singletary come to mind. But you have Jerry Jones selling the team now? Dallas has won more Superbowls under Jones' ownership than it had ever won. He's an oil man, riverboat gambler. I like an owner who isn't afraid to spend on his team. The problem lies in the coaching.
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So who hired the coaches? :goodposting:
 
Texasmouth said:
Broadway Joe said:
enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
Click to expand...
Its all about their clownful image, Jethro Jones and their uber-toolish fans as was stated above :goodposting:
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Its people like you that cause this type of stuff. Coming in to a thread just to say something stupid like this only provokes fights. :popcorn:
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Actually it is their rudderless fans posting inane rhetoric in weeks past. Dont throw bricks if you live in a glass house.Fairweather fans FTW :IBTL:
 
Broadway Joe said:
Texasmouth said:
Broadway Joe said:
enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
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Its all about their clownful image, Jethro Jones and their uber-toolish fans as was stated above :thumbup:
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Its people like you that cause this type of stuff. Coming in to a thread just to say something stupid like this only provokes fights. :headbang:
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Actually it is their rudderless fans posting inane rhetoric in weeks past. Dont throw bricks if you live in a glass house.Fairweather fans FTW :clap:
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examples? :excited:
 
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
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Simply getting players from injury will help this team but will not solve all problems. The biggest problem is going to need to be fixed by the play calling. Some thoughts include Garret mixing in more screens, slants, and draws to keep the defense at bay, Wade Phillips playing press coverage instead of zone as Jenkins excels at press coverage dont give 10 yard cushions to the recievers. Special teams just needs to stay in their lanes on coverage and finish blocks on returns. Dallas is far from dead dont believe the hype ESPN and other media outlets are spewing.
 
simmonjm said:
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
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Simply getting players from injury will help this team but will not solve all problems. The biggest problem is going to need to be fixed by the play calling. Some thoughts include Garret mixing in more screens, slants, and draws to keep the defense at bay, Wade Phillips playing press coverage instead of zone as Jenkins excels at press coverage dont give 10 yard cushions to the recievers. Special teams just needs to stay in their lanes on coverage and finish blocks on returns. Dallas is far from dead dont believe the hype ESPN and other media outlets are spewing.
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um, ok. i watch EVERY game. this team is in disarray. they are getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. there are bigger problems going on here. this team clould turn it around, no doubt, but right now the cards are stacked against them.
 
Get ready for 2 more weeks of hearing about how this team is falling apart. I really don't think they can beat Tampa playing the way they are, and then they have a bye week.

 
cowboyz said:
Broadway Joe said:
Texasmouth said:
Broadway Joe said:
enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
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Its all about their clownful image, Jethro Jones and their uber-toolish fans as was stated above :football:
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Its people like you that cause this type of stuff. Coming in to a thread just to say something stupid like this only provokes fights. :thumbdown:
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Actually it is their rudderless fans posting inane rhetoric in weeks past. Dont throw bricks if you live in a glass house

.

Fairweather fans FTW

:thumbup:
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examples? :popcorn:
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http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...mustang+cowboyshttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...mustang+cowboys

Here are couple...

 
Manster said:
simmonjm said:
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
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Simply getting players from injury will help this team but will not solve all problems. The biggest problem is going to need to be fixed by the play calling. Some thoughts include Garret mixing in more screens, slants, and draws to keep the defense at bay, Wade Phillips playing press coverage instead of zone as Jenkins excels at press coverage dont give 10 yard cushions to the recievers. Special teams just needs to stay in their lanes on coverage and finish blocks on returns. Dallas is far from dead dont believe the hype ESPN and other media outlets are spewing.
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um, ok. i watch EVERY game. this team is in disarray. they are getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. there are bigger problems going on here. this team clould turn it around, no doubt, but right now the cards are stacked against them.
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Why are the cards stacked against them? Because ESPN says so? Teams go through rough patches and injuries if the Cowboys get Romo back next week and beat Tampa and after the bye beat the Giants you will be breaking your ankles trying to get back on the bandwagon. This team is far from dead. Just last year everyone in New York was calling for Coughlins head and now he is a respected coach things change QUICKLY.
 
simmonjm said:
Manster said:
simmonjm said:
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
Click to expand...
Simply getting players from injury will help this team but will not solve all problems. The biggest problem is going to need to be fixed by the play calling. Some thoughts include Garret mixing in more screens, slants, and draws to keep the defense at bay, Wade Phillips playing press coverage instead of zone as Jenkins excels at press coverage dont give 10 yard cushions to the recievers. Special teams just needs to stay in their lanes on coverage and finish blocks on returns. Dallas is far from dead dont believe the hype ESPN and other media outlets are spewing.
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um, ok. i watch EVERY game. this team is in disarray. they are getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. there are bigger problems going on here. this team clould turn it around, no doubt, but right now the cards are stacked against them.
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Why are the cards stacked against them? Because ESPN says so? Teams go through rough patches and injuries if the Cowboys get Romo back next week and beat Tampa and after the bye beat the Giants you will be breaking your ankles trying to get back on the bandwagon. This team is far from dead. Just last year everyone in New York was calling for Coughlins head and now he is a respected coach things change QUICKLY.
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This team is in disarray not because of injuries (every team has those) but because they lack leadership and toughness. Romo's injury shouldn't have made that much difference to a team sporting so much talent elsewhere - we've seen less talented winning teams navigate stormy seas while their starting QB's were hurt, such as the Eagles with Feeley and Detmer. This team reminds me of Mike Tyson - if he couldn't score a first round knockout, he's looking for excuses and ears to bite. There's no heart to really endure a struggle if things don't come easy.

The Cowboys might indeed be the "most talented" roster in that division, but they're the worst team in that division for those reasons. And I don't see Wade Phillips being the guy to change that, not least because Jerry in his infinite wisdom made sure everybody knew since the day he was hired that Wade's a dead man walking as the head coach, and has intentionally or not used every opportunity to remind everyone of that, right down to making announcements this week about Romo starting or not rather than leaving that to the coach to do.

Romo's return will help, but the problems run much deeper than Romo's pinky finger.

Oh, and forget about the 2007 Giants. That team's turnaround was noteworthy because it was both dramatic and rare, and as I said above I see no leader on the Cowboys to help engineer such a feat, starting with how poor Phillips matches up with Coughlin in that regard.

 
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enfuego said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I don't really get all the Cowboys hatred. They're not really good enough to warrant such animosity. When they win a playoff game, they might earn some antipathy.
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It's not about about good or bad on the field. It's so much more than that. It's the "America's Team" crap. It's jerry jones. It's rabid fans that are in your face when Dallas is winning and disappear when they are on a 2 game losing streak (or more) and then suddenly reappear when it's over...
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It's the unmerited attention they receive. I was watching the Giants-Niners game today, and midway through the 3rd quarter, Buck and Aikman were talking about the Cowboys' issues. How about you guys talk about either of the two teams playing the game right in front of you? I can't say I hate them (fantasy football has tempered the antipathy I had for them in the 80's and 90's), but I get sick of all the undeserved attention they get. And I can't stand meddlesome owners. Jerry is a great businessman, but he doesn't realize he's not an NFL-caliber coach or GM.
 
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
Manster said:
simmonjm said:
Tatum Bell said:
simmonjm said:
I think alot of you are making a mistake here. Its way too early to write off the Cowboys. The Cowboys have been dealing with lots of short term injuries and if they can just get past the next couple of weeks they should be alright. The Rams game is a totally different game if Romo is healthy. The defense wouldnt be repeatedly stuck defending a short field because of a turnover by the offense. You know last year early in the season no one gave the Giants a chance in hell and look at what they did. Call me a homer but I still think that this Dallas team is the MOST talented team in the league but they dont play like a team if they did they would dominante like the 2007 Pats.
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Sounds like, from your own words, weathering in the injury storm is not going to cure the problems, right?
Click to expand...
Simply getting players from injury will help this team but will not solve all problems. The biggest problem is going to need to be fixed by the play calling. Some thoughts include Garret mixing in more screens, slants, and draws to keep the defense at bay, Wade Phillips playing press coverage instead of zone as Jenkins excels at press coverage dont give 10 yard cushions to the recievers. Special teams just needs to stay in their lanes on coverage and finish blocks on returns. Dallas is far from dead dont believe the hype ESPN and other media outlets are spewing.
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um, ok. i watch EVERY game. this team is in disarray. they are getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. there are bigger problems going on here. this team clould turn it around, no doubt, but right now the cards are stacked against them.
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Why are the cards stacked against them? Because ESPN says so? Teams go through rough patches and injuries if the Cowboys get Romo back next week and beat Tampa and after the bye beat the Giants you will be breaking your ankles trying to get back on the bandwagon. This team is far from dead. Just last year everyone in New York was calling for Coughlins head and now he is a respected coach things change QUICKLY.
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This team is in disarray not because of injuries (every team has those) but because they lack leadership and toughness. Romo's injury shouldn't have made that much difference to a team sporting so much talent elsewhere - we've seen less talented winning teams navigate stormy seas while their starting QB's were hurt, such as the Eagles with Feeley and Detmer. This team reminds me of Mike Tyson - if he couldn't score a first round knockout, he's looking for excuses and ears to bite. There's no heart to really endure a struggle if things don't come easy.

The Cowboys might indeed be the "most talented" roster in that division, but they're the worst team in that division for those reasons. And I don't see Wade Phillips being the guy to change that, not least because Jerry in his infinite wisdom made sure everybody knew since the day he was hired that Wade's a dead man walking as the head coach, and has intentionally or not used every opportunity to remind everyone of that, right down to making announcements this week about Romo starting or not rather than leaving that to the coach to do.

Romo's return will help, but the problems run much deeper than Romo's pinky finger.

Oh, and forget about the 2007 Giants. That team's turnaround was noteworthy because it was both dramatic and rare, and as I said above I see no leader on the Cowboys to help engineer such a feat, starting with how poor Phillips matches up with Coughlin in that regard.
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And how good are the Pats without Tom Brady? Losing your starting qb is a huge blow to a team unless your the Texans and have Sage Rosenfals as your back up. Going into the season I felt that backup QB was a position that was neglected and now it is apparent. Gaurantee you that your Redskins dont win 5 games with either Collins or Brennan at the helm their more then likely looking at 1 or 2 wins.
 
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