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Tatum Bell said:
Bankerguy said:
You might be right about the East title...but lucky to win the WildCard is a little overstated.
If they lose this week, then they need to finish 5-2 to end up with 10 wins, the presumed floor for making the playoffs as a Wild Card team. I won't say they can't do that, but that means that they have to play at a very high level over 7 weeks, and they were already starting to show some inconsistency even with Romo still in their lineup before his injury. Even ignoring their injury problems to Witten and others, that's where mental toughness and leadership come in and those are precisely the areas that people are questioning about them right now, and not just this season.

One more thing - people seem to talk like Romo's return will solve the leadership problem. I'm not sure that Romo at this point is anything other than the best QB on the team. Certainly they'll improve when he returns because of that fact, but I still wonder how much his "boy wonder" personality/style translates to rallying this team as a leader when times are bad and there is turmoil.
This where you guys some times twist things. Romo returning improves the Quarterback positionperiod. The difference between the players is HUGE. Even if Romo was a total cancer (Which he isn't-this would still results in wins). You also point out some valid observations and questions that every team has to some degree. Really though, I don't see any reason why we can't win 5 of the last 7. :shrug:
That is easy to say but the fact is they are 6-6 over their last 12 games. That would be quite a turn around. This would concern me if I am a Dallas fan.
:goodposting: Not to mention it's the hardest part of their schedule.

 
Mustang Man said:
Tatum Bell said:
Mustang Man said:
Interesting that Garrett was the spear carrier for Johnson's return. I've still got to fault Jones a bit as it doesn't take a genius to figure out from watching Johnson work out that he's simply not a guy you can win with over multiple games. If Garrett simply had to have him on the roster, then it's the GM's job to get a 3rd stringer who can be viable too, if not override Garrett on that decision.

So now I've got to wonder how much luster is gone from Garrett in Jones' eyes longer term. Is he still the front-runner to become the head coach after Wade?

our best shot is to roll with BJ. sure he's looked rusty, but he knows the offense. if the playcalling is right, and BJ deosnt try to do to much, they should be able to sustain drives. this obviously isnt the same team without Romo in there. but BJ is a salty vet, who wont be intimidated going into NY.

we need to get the ball to TO. since BJ cant really make the long throws, how bout WR screens, reverses, quick slants. if BJ has a bit of time to throw, there should be some opportunitys there.

we need to blitz the crap out of eli. he makes bad throws under pressure. if he has all day, as some QB's have had against the Cowboys, he'll pick us apart for sure.

i really think the Cowboys have a shot in this one. the momentum of their defensive effort from last week should carry over. we'll see.
The Cowboys have a better shot than many people think because, as you said, Eli is not a good QB under pressure. A dirty little secret from that ugly week 1 loss by the Redskins was that they literally dropped 4 or 5 INT's from Eli. I'm not exaggerating. One was even in the end zone. They only lost 16-7, so even catching just one or two could have had an effect upon the outcome, even as miserably as the Redskins were playing on offense. The Cowboys can win an ugly 13-10 type ball game if their defense steps up and the offensive line decides to get mean and block for Barber. And of course BJ cannot turn the ball over.

I unlike some others am not enthralled with Terrence Newman's abilities and I don't think he's anywhere near elite level as a CB, so his absence, while still a negative, isn't devastating. The key is getting pressure on Eli, even more than stopping the running game. None of those Giants RB's are game breakers IMHO, although that's otherwise a deep and good RB corps. If the Cowboys are knocking Eli down and getting a couple of INT's, the Giants could run for 200 yards and still lose.
Sure Dallas could win a tough defensive battle but I doubt that will happen. Sure Eli can be rattled but all qb's can with good pressure, but to imply that he is not able to over come pressure is not on target anymore. He can make the big play under pressure situations. The Skins are not in the Giants class and have been playing average to terrible ball the last 3 weeks. Had they not played the doormat of the league last week they would have lost. They are over ratted. I think Newman is a major upgrade over a rookie cb and is a big loss for this defense. I 100% agree that Dallas has to put pressure on Eli, the o-line has to run block and BJ can't turn the ball over, but that is obvious. B.Jacobs is a beast and can wear a defense down better then any rb in the league as well as the G-MEN's offensive line is the best in the NFL. Dallas has little chance to win this game as beat up as they are, now if this game was played when Dallas plays the Skins after the bye then Dallas can beat anyone once they get Romo F.Jones TNewman Witten Henry etc. back healthy. If Dallas wins this game with some big time luck the G-Men will never get over it and Dallas will win the division. The most likely scenario is Dallas Losses this week and is 5-4 and will have a hard time getting to 10 wins but should, and make a WC spot with either Philly Skins Tampa Minn in that order.
They're overrated and "Dallas can beat anyone with Romo", and yet the 'Skins beat Dallas in Dallas a month ago with Romo in the lineup? Ok chief, whatever.
If you follow the NFC East you know the games are always close and talent level and the better team means next to nothing. The teams play each other very close and there is almost never a dominant team in the NFC east vs one another. The Skins are over ratted and it will show this Monday when they get handled buy the Steelers.
Call the Redskins over rated if it makes you feel better. If the Cowboys lose this week they can kiss the NFC East goodbye, and with their schedule coming up they will be lucky to make a Wild Card.
If you read the last sentence in my post I said that the most likely scenario is that Dallas makes a WC spot and will not win the division and to the win the division really is not a big deal. You can go all the way without doing that. Also to call the Redskins over rated does not make me feel better, really I hardly ever even think about them wish I could say the same about you and the Cowboys. :excited:
:shrug: I enjoy the Cowboys. Just like I enjoy the Eagles and the Giants. I find the rivalry between these teams to be among the greatest in sports. Something I've noticed that alot of newer/younger fans seem to confuse with straight hatred. And although I am a huge Redskins fan I can take my Burgandy and Gold glasses off and look at my team objectively from time to time. You should try it some time.
What is it with you and glasses. I bet you fell in love with Sarah Palin. Anyway what in that post makes you think that I have cowboy glasses on. The fact that I feel they will not beat the Giants or that I said they will have a tough time winning 10 games. I know maybe it is because I think they will win 10 games an make the playoffs. :goodposting: . By the way I love the rivalry of the NFC EAST. I have no hatred for any of the teams and am not a new fan or young that is for sure. I think you should read more careful and maybe put your glasses back on. :shrug:
Not just that post....I'm also basing my statement on the other threads you have been in and started.
 
Tatum Bell said:
Bankerguy said:
You might be right about the East title...but lucky to win the WildCard is a little overstated.
If they lose this week, then they need to finish 5-2 to end up with 10 wins, the presumed floor for making the playoffs as a Wild Card team. I won't say they can't do that, but that means that they have to play at a very high level over 7 weeks, and they were already starting to show some inconsistency even with Romo still in their lineup before his injury. Even ignoring their injury problems to Witten and others, that's where mental toughness and leadership come in and those are precisely the areas that people are questioning about them right now, and not just this season. One more thing - people seem to talk like Romo's return will solve the leadership problem. I'm not sure that Romo at this point is anything other than the best QB on the team. Certainly they'll improve when he returns because of that fact, but I still wonder how much his "boy wonder" personality/style translates to rallying this team as a leader when times are bad and there is turmoil.
This where you guys some times twist things. Romo returning improves the Quarterback positionperiod. The difference between the players is HUGE. Even if Romo was a total cancer (Which he isn't-this would still results in wins). You also point out some valid observations and questions that every team has to some degree. Really though, I don't see any reason why we can't win 5 of the last 7. :goodposting:
I think 4-3 is more realistic. Do you think 9-7 makes the playoffs this year?
 
Tatum Bell said:
Bankerguy said:
You might be right about the East title...but lucky to win the WildCard is a little overstated.
If they lose this week, then they need to finish 5-2 to end up with 10 wins, the presumed floor for making the playoffs as a Wild Card team. I won't say they can't do that, but that means that they have to play at a very high level over 7 weeks, and they were already starting to show some inconsistency even with Romo still in their lineup before his injury. Even ignoring their injury problems to Witten and others, that's where mental toughness and leadership come in and those are precisely the areas that people are questioning about them right now, and not just this season.

One more thing - people seem to talk like Romo's return will solve the leadership problem. I'm not sure that Romo at this point is anything other than the best QB on the team. Certainly they'll improve when he returns because of that fact, but I still wonder how much his "boy wonder" personality/style translates to rallying this team as a leader when times are bad and there is turmoil.
This where you guys some times twist things. Romo returning improves the Quarterback positionperiod. The difference between the players is HUGE. Even if Romo was a total cancer (Which he isn't-this would still results in wins). You also point out some valid observations and questions that every team has to some degree. Really though, I don't see any reason why we can't win 5 of the last 7. :thumbup:
That is easy to say but the fact is they are 6-6 over their last 12 games. That would be quite a turn around. This would concern me if I am a Dallas fan.
We really appreciate your concern for our team's well being. :deadhorse:

 
Tatum Bell said:
Bankerguy said:
You might be right about the East title...but lucky to win the WildCard is a little overstated.
If they lose this week, then they need to finish 5-2 to end up with 10 wins, the presumed floor for making the playoffs as a Wild Card team. I won't say they can't do that, but that means that they have to play at a very high level over 7 weeks, and they were already starting to show some inconsistency even with Romo still in their lineup before his injury. Even ignoring their injury problems to Witten and others, that's where mental toughness and leadership come in and those are precisely the areas that people are questioning about them right now, and not just this season.

One more thing - people seem to talk like Romo's return will solve the leadership problem. I'm not sure that Romo at this point is anything other than the best QB on the team. Certainly they'll improve when he returns because of that fact, but I still wonder how much his "boy wonder" personality/style translates to rallying this team as a leader when times are bad and there is turmoil.
This where you guys some times twist things. Romo returning improves the Quarterback positionperiod. The difference between the players is HUGE. Even if Romo was a total cancer (Which he isn't-this would still results in wins). You also point out some valid observations and questions that every team has to some degree. Really though, I don't see any reason why we can't win 5 of the last 7. :crazy:
That is easy to say but the fact is they are 6-6 over their last 12 games. That would be quite a turn around. This would concern me if I am a Dallas fan.
The last 12 game span means little. What you have to look at is the last 8 of this season. Fact is they are 5-3 with all that has went wrong and that is a lot. I think it can only get better from here on out and for them to go 5-3 the second half is not hard to see.
 
Mustang Man said:
Tatum Bell said:
Mustang Man said:
Interesting that Garrett was the spear carrier for Johnson's return. I've still got to fault Jones a bit as it doesn't take a genius to figure out from watching Johnson work out that he's simply not a guy you can win with over multiple games. If Garrett simply had to have him on the roster, then it's the GM's job to get a 3rd stringer who can be viable too, if not override Garrett on that decision.

So now I've got to wonder how much luster is gone from Garrett in Jones' eyes longer term. Is he still the front-runner to become the head coach after Wade?

our best shot is to roll with BJ. sure he's looked rusty, but he knows the offense. if the playcalling is right, and BJ deosnt try to do to much, they should be able to sustain drives. this obviously isnt the same team without Romo in there. but BJ is a salty vet, who wont be intimidated going into NY.

we need to get the ball to TO. since BJ cant really make the long throws, how bout WR screens, reverses, quick slants. if BJ has a bit of time to throw, there should be some opportunitys there.

we need to blitz the crap out of eli. he makes bad throws under pressure. if he has all day, as some QB's have had against the Cowboys, he'll pick us apart for sure.

i really think the Cowboys have a shot in this one. the momentum of their defensive effort from last week should carry over. we'll see.
The Cowboys have a better shot than many people think because, as you said, Eli is not a good QB under pressure. A dirty little secret from that ugly week 1 loss by the Redskins was that they literally dropped 4 or 5 INT's from Eli. I'm not exaggerating. One was even in the end zone. They only lost 16-7, so even catching just one or two could have had an effect upon the outcome, even as miserably as the Redskins were playing on offense. The Cowboys can win an ugly 13-10 type ball game if their defense steps up and the offensive line decides to get mean and block for Barber. And of course BJ cannot turn the ball over.

I unlike some others am not enthralled with Terrence Newman's abilities and I don't think he's anywhere near elite level as a CB, so his absence, while still a negative, isn't devastating. The key is getting pressure on Eli, even more than stopping the running game. None of those Giants RB's are game breakers IMHO, although that's otherwise a deep and good RB corps. If the Cowboys are knocking Eli down and getting a couple of INT's, the Giants could run for 200 yards and still lose.
Sure Dallas could win a tough defensive battle but I doubt that will happen. Sure Eli can be rattled but all qb's can with good pressure, but to imply that he is not able to over come pressure is not on target anymore. He can make the big play under pressure situations. The Skins are not in the Giants class and have been playing average to terrible ball the last 3 weeks. Had they not played the doormat of the league last week they would have lost. They are over ratted. I think Newman is a major upgrade over a rookie cb and is a big loss for this defense. I 100% agree that Dallas has to put pressure on Eli, the o-line has to run block and BJ can't turn the ball over, but that is obvious. B.Jacobs is a beast and can wear a defense down better then any rb in the league as well as the G-MEN's offensive line is the best in the NFL. Dallas has little chance to win this game as beat up as they are, now if this game was played when Dallas plays the Skins after the bye then Dallas can beat anyone once they get Romo F.Jones TNewman Witten Henry etc. back healthy. If Dallas wins this game with some big time luck the G-Men will never get over it and Dallas will win the division. The most likely scenario is Dallas Losses this week and is 5-4 and will have a hard time getting to 10 wins but should, and make a WC spot with either Philly Skins Tampa Minn in that order.
They're overrated and "Dallas can beat anyone with Romo", and yet the 'Skins beat Dallas in Dallas a month ago with Romo in the lineup? Ok chief, whatever.
If you follow the NFC East you know the games are always close and talent level and the better team means next to nothing. The teams play each other very close and there is almost never a dominant team in the NFC east vs one another. The Skins are over ratted and it will show this Monday when they get handled buy the Steelers.
Call the Redskins over rated if it makes you feel better. If the Cowboys lose this week they can kiss the NFC East goodbye, and with their schedule coming up they will be lucky to make a Wild Card.
If you read the last sentence in my post I said that the most likely scenario is that Dallas makes a WC spot and will not win the division and to the win the division really is not a big deal. You can go all the way without doing that. Also to call the Redskins over rated does not make me feel better, really I hardly ever even think about them wish I could say the same about you and the Cowboys. :lmao:
:lmao: I enjoy the Cowboys. Just like I enjoy the Eagles and the Giants. I find the rivalry between these teams to be among the greatest in sports. Something I've noticed that alot of newer/younger fans seem to confuse with straight hatred. And although I am a huge Redskins fan I can take my Burgandy and Gold glasses off and look at my team objectively from time to time. You should try it some time.
What is it with you and glasses. I bet you fell in love with Sarah Palin. Anyway what in that post makes you think that I have cowboy glasses on. The fact that I feel they will not beat the Giants or that I said they will have a tough time winning 10 games. I know maybe it is because I think they will win 10 games an make the playoffs. :lmao: . By the way I love the rivalry of the NFC EAST. I have no hatred for any of the teams and am not a new fan or young that is for sure. I think you should read more careful and maybe put your glasses back on. :lmao:
Not just that post....I'm also basing my statement on the other threads you have been in and started.
Well I am glad to see you are up to date with your Mustang Man post history. I feel so important now. I am also glad to see that you never make statements about the Redskins that other people who are not Redskin fans think are crazy or seeing through Redskin glasses. Fact is that being a fan of a team and really watching them and following them pretty close I can see the silver lining more so then others who just see all the bad that goes on with the Cowboys. If you think that a 10-6 record is wishful thinking for the Cowboys this year I just flat out disagree with you and that s fine. I think you said 9-7 is more likely, well damn that one extra win I see them getting, I can see how crazy that must be through your eyes (glasses) and that I have the homer glasses on again. One of us will be wrong and I can bet you that I will not be acting like a crazy person going into Redskin posts saying I was right hahah (Not saying you are acting crazy so chill). I am sure some of you will still find your way in a Cowboys thread lol so you will not be hard to find. I just wish I could say the same for the others who I seem to see in all Cowboys posts(you know who you are and not just one of you). I just do not understand how so many people end up in a Cowboys thread that are not Cowboys fans. Owell that is just me I guess.
 
i admire your tenacity, but just being a Cowboys fan can be maddening on these boreds. dont let it get to you.

the reality is the Cowboys have tough road ahead. i, for one, am excited to see how they react. this is what team sports is all about. can this team rise to the occasion? i'm not sure, but they will have the opportunity to try.

once we get Romo, Newman, Kosier, Witten, and Felix back, etc.....this team should be alright.

 
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1. Tony Romo - Big play..big turnover type of QB. Seems to like Hollywood more than football.2. TO- No matter what you say about TO the guy is a cancer. If everything is going his way TO can fake like he is a team player, when thing are not going his way his lack of character comes through.3. Roy Williams- Roy is a good WR and a fun guy. A winner?? I am not to sure about that.4. Pacman- A mistake from the get go. Jones was dealing with the devil and he knew it.
1. I disagree with the 2nd part. Saying he likes Hollywood more than football isn't true. Because he dates someone who is in Hollywood doesn't equate with the time and effort he puts into football.2. Disagree- Although he's not perfect, he's a lot better of a team player and leader that he used to be.3. This is agree with....we'll just have to see.4. I agree but I think worth the risk. When you gamble, you sometimes lose.The Cowboys are always front page news. Some love it, most hate it. If you've followed football for a long period of time, hopefully you've learned to differentiate hyperbole from fact. With Cowboy news, many reporters try to create interesting angles to one up the next reporter since the Cowboys are news.I anticipate the Cowboys struggling this weekend. The ball will have to bounce the Cowboys way all day for them to win in New York without the players that'll be out of the lineup this weekend.Make no mistake about it, it'll be a different story the next time when they play in Dallas. Whether or not that game has playoff implicatons for Dallas, that's another story.I think Dallas if they have to play 5-2 ball down the stretch to make the playoff does it. And quite frankly, if they can't they they're not winning the SB anyway. 5-2 ball isn't all that tough for any team that's going to win the SB.....and if they're not that team, then back to the drawing board.Winning the Tampa game was huge, because if they lost that game, they'd have to go 6-1.......Out of this Giants game, a win would be outstanding but I'm not expecting that. However, I want to see a football team scrap. The Cowboys have loads of talent.....we know that.But what I want to see is a team get on their hands and knees and scrap. They showed a little of that last weekend versus Tampa Bay.....they'll need to show a lot of that if they want to be competitive vs. the Giants.This game could be ugly close if the Cowboys do that, or things could get ugly if they're afraid to get their hands dirty.
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?

 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I am neither a Skin or Boys fan , but the Boys have zero chance of beating the Skins in week 11.I dont even think they will get into the playoffs .You can have as much talent has you want on a team but if they dont play as a team they will never win anything .And the Boys are a bunch of individual players who dont care about each other , and that s also because there is no leadership on this team.TO is a cry baby and a #### stirrer now they add Williams in the mix , with Romo being soft everything adds up . This is not a team.
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I am neither a Skin or Boys fan , but the Boys have zero chance of beating the Skins in week 11.I dont even think they will get into the playoffs .You can have as much talent has you want on a team but if they dont play as a team they will never win anything .And the Boys are a bunch of individual players who dont care about each other , and that s also because there is no leadership on this team.TO is a cry baby and a #### stirrer now they add Williams in the mix , with Romo being soft everything adds up . This is not a team.
So then you would be more then willing to give me 10:1 odds then. Put me down for $100 on the Cowboys even though the have zero chance right. :crazy:
 
It's just like a Redskins fan to kick the Cowboys when they're down, or to call them a team in disarray ( :crazy: ) when in reality they are simply dealing with multiple injuries. That's why they're all over the boards posting such threads and trolling others. That's where they get their satisfaction. So be it.

 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I am neither a Skin or Boys fan , but the Boys have zero chance of beating the Skins in week 11.I dont even think they will get into the playoffs .You can have as much talent has you want on a team but if they dont play as a team they will never win anything .And the Boys are a bunch of individual players who dont care about each other , and that s also because there is no leadership on this team.TO is a cry baby and a #### stirrer now they add Williams in the mix , with Romo being soft everything adds up . This is not a team.
Sounds like the makings of an upset special to me...!
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I am neither a Skin or Boys fan , but the Boys have zero chance of beating the Skins in week 11.I dont even think they will get into the playoffs .

You can have as much talent has you want on a team but if they dont play as a team they will never win anything .

And the Boys are a bunch of individual players who dont care about each other , and that s also because there is no leadership on this team.

TO is a cry baby and a #### stirrer now they add Williams in the mix , with Romo being soft everything adds up . This is not a team.
:crazy:
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
All it says about the Redskins would be "on any given Sunday . . ." They don't have a protracted set of leadership problems to point to like the Cowboys do, win or lose.
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I think all of the NFC East games this year are pretty close to a toss-up, regardless of the teams involved and the venue (unless there are significant injuries like Romo or Westbrook). If the Redskins lose, it will be disappointing, but not devestating.If the Cowboys sneak out a win against the Giants, that will be a very big boost for them. But it won't change the fact that the game against Washington will probably be close, hard-fought, and decided in the last two minutes, in all probability.
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
That the Redskins split with the Cowboys this year.
 
I unlike some others am not enthralled with Terrence Newman's abilities and I don't think he's anywhere near elite level as a CB, so his absence, while still a negative, isn't devastating.
FWIW, at the end of each season, Dallas, as well as several other teams, get together and have coaches/scouts submit lists of the top 20 players on the other teams' rosters. According to Jerry, Wade, (and Tuna when he was coach), Ware and Newman are consistently rated as the top 2 players by far on the defense. So NFL insiders consider Newman to be an elite player. The same level as Ware. Sorry for the hijack, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Since when is the Dallas defense filled with elite players? I like some of their talent, but saying that Newman and Ware are rated better than the others doesn't refute my point. I didn't say he sucks, just that he's not elite, but you wouldn't know that from the praise that Cowboys fans seem to heap on him (not to mention the Pro Bowl votes they can throw around like confetti). Maybe that's just a product of so many years of frustration with the Mario Edwards' of the world. Do you consider Newman to be a shutdown corner? Santana Moss doesn't.
Tatum, my opinion or your opinion means nothing. I'm merely relaying to you and others the opinions of NLF coaches and scouts. They know a whole lot more than you and me.
 
It's just like a Redskins fan to kick the Cowboys when they're down, or to call them a team in disarray ( :mellow: ) when in reality they are simply dealing with multiple injuries. That's why they're all over the boards posting such threads and trolling others. That's where they get their satisfaction. So be it.
For the most part the Redskins fans in the Cowboys threads are Fatness, Tatum, and me. Tatum takes far more shots at the Cowboys (although I think he takes more at you than the Cowboys). I think you have far more fans of other fans taking shots at the Cowboys just because of the pre-season hype. Most picked them to win/go to Super Bowl. It's going to create some attention when they under perform.
 
A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
I am neither a Skin or Boys fan , but the Boys have zero chance of beating the Skins in week 11.
Don't take too much offense but not only are you not a fan of the Skins or Cowboys, but you're not good with Math. To say that Dallas has zero percent chance to win is silly.Even the Lions have a chance. Odds are that Dallas won't win in Washington but zero percent means you don't know what you're talking about.
 
It's just like a Redskins fan to kick the Cowboys when they're down, or to call them a team in disarray ( :lmao: ) when in reality they are simply dealing with multiple injuries. That's why they're all over the boards posting such threads and trolling others. That's where they get their satisfaction. So be it.
For the most part the Redskins fans in the Cowboys threads are Fatness, Tatum, and me. Tatum takes far more shots at the Cowboys (although I think he takes more at you than the Cowboys). I think you have far more fans of other fans taking shots at the Cowboys just because of the pre-season hype. Most picked them to win/go to Super Bowl. It's going to create some attention when they under perform.
Well put. I can accept that. However, it's more the media than posters on this board that were picking them to go to the Super Bowl. I, for one, know that I haven't put the two in the same sentence. It's utterly ridiculous to make such statements in August/September no matter the team of subject. With that being said, it's unfair to hold Cowboy fan posters accountable for what the media is projecting. There will always be haters though. I understand that. After all, it's the "Dallas Cowboys." Too much greatness in their stellar history to not expect people to take their shots when they're down. That says alot about their character, or lack thereof. I'm not including you in that bunch thayman, but we all know who they are.
 
I unlike some others am not enthralled with Terrence Newman's abilities and I don't think he's anywhere near elite level as a CB, so his absence, while still a negative, isn't devastating.
FWIW, at the end of each season, Dallas, as well as several other teams, get together and have coaches/scouts submit lists of the top 20 players on the other teams' rosters. According to Jerry, Wade, (and Tuna when he was coach), Ware and Newman are consistently rated as the top 2 players by far on the defense. So NFL insiders consider Newman to be an elite player. The same level as Ware. Sorry for the hijack, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Since when is the Dallas defense filled with elite players? I like some of their talent, but saying that Newman and Ware are rated better than the others doesn't refute my point. I didn't say he sucks, just that he's not elite, but you wouldn't know that from the praise that Cowboys fans seem to heap on him (not to mention the Pro Bowl votes they can throw around like confetti). Maybe that's just a product of so many years of frustration with the Mario Edwards' of the world. Do you consider Newman to be a shutdown corner? Santana Moss doesn't.
Tatum, my opinion or your opinion means nothing. I'm merely relaying to you and others the opinions of NLF coaches and scouts. They know a whole lot more than you and me.
:bag: And just to add, there is no such thing as a shutdown corner in today's game.That's a term of the past. Somebody needs to brush up...or wake up, ...or both.
 
It's just like a Redskins fan to kick the Cowboys when they're down, or to call them a team in disarray ( :unsure: ) when in reality they are simply dealing with multiple injuries. That's why they're all over the boards posting such threads and trolling others. That's where they get their satisfaction. So be it.
For the most part the Redskins fans in the Cowboys threads are Fatness, Tatum, and me. Tatum takes far more shots at the Cowboys (although I think he takes more at you than the Cowboys). I think you have far more fans of other fans taking shots at the Cowboys just because of the pre-season hype. Most picked them to win/go to Super Bowl. It's going to create some attention when they under perform.
Have you been in any San Diego Charger threads?
 
I will go on record as long as Romo is back and say they beat the Skins I would be surprised if they did not win. I wonder what the line will be? I bet it is within 2 points. Of coarse I really do not care about that game right now lets shock the world tomorrow!!

 
I will go on record as long as Romo is back and say they beat the Skins I would be surprised if they did not win. I wonder what the line will be? I bet it is within 2 points. Of coarse I really do not care about that game right now lets shock the world tomorrow!!
damn, i hope we beat the giants!
 
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A simple question to the Redskins fans. Many of you are asserting that Dallas is a team in dissaray (I can see why in some instances), so if we beat you in Week 11 in your house, what will that say about your team?
with Romo being soft everything adds up .
Oh, so now Romo is soft? What? Have you been talking to Jessica Simpson? Give me a break.Let's see. He's missed the last 2 games, yet he still ranks-10th in the league in passing yards.3rd in yards per game.Tied for 3rd in TD passes (with Warner, one behind Favre and Brees)2nd in passer rating behind Rivers.Leadership? Is that the point? We'll see his leadership when he gets back on the field, then we can re-visit that matter.This kid came out of nowhere to lead the Cowboys back to respectability and he's nowhere near done.In his first 32 starts, he's 23-9. I'll take that for getting out of the gates on the right foot and moving in the right direction.You can only count on one hand the number of quarterbacks in this league who "may" be better, and we haven't even seen his best yet.He's still growing and maturing as an NFL quarterback. It would seem some tend to overlook that. He's only got two seasons worth of starts.What is it they say about the third year? Well, we're about to find out. It starts "Week 11."Just pointing that out.
 
I think the Redskin fans need to be concerned about their own team being able to make the playoffs. They look alot like last year's Lions team to me.

If you guys beat the Steelers you should be ok but otherwise...?

I mean you are barely squeaking by and you have some tough games ahead and Moss looks like he is back to his fragile self.

Lets look at what you have ahead.

Pit-Loss

Dal-Loss

Seatle at Quest field could easily be a loss but I will give you a win.

Giants-Loss I hear LaRon Landry is already trying to get a doctor's excuse for that game.

Balt-Loss Moss's hammy will probably be acting up or he will get killed and you can't run on them.

That will put you at 10-6

and you still have to play Cincy who will probably be fighting desperately not to go winless. Always dangerous.

and then you have Philly who will love to put you at 9-7. I don't think that will get you in.

 
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thayman said:
It's just like a Redskins fan to kick the Cowboys when they're down, or to call them a team in disarray ( :thumbup: ) when in reality they are simply dealing with multiple injuries. That's why they're all over the boards posting such threads and trolling others. That's where they get their satisfaction. So be it.
For the most part the Redskins fans in the Cowboys threads are Fatness, Tatum, and me. Tatum takes far more shots at the Cowboys (although I think he takes more at you than the Cowboys). I think you have far more fans of other fans taking shots at the Cowboys just because of the pre-season hype. Most picked them to win/go to Super Bowl. It's going to create some attention when they under perform.
Have you been in any San Diego Charger threads?
Not too many, the Cowboys are far more interesting and closer to home being in the NFC East and all. Their success, failures and injuries has a much higher bearing on the team I root for since they play twice. Washington doesn't play San Diego this year.
 
I think the Redskin fans need to be concerned about their own team being able to make the playoffs. They look alot like last year's Lions team to me. If you guys beat the Steelers you should be ok but otherwise...?I mean you are barely squeaking by and you have some tough games ahead and Moss looks like he is back to his fragile self.Lets look at what you have ahead.Pit-LossDal-LossSeatle at Quest field could easily be a loss but I will give you a win.Giants-Loss I hear LaRon Landry is already trying to get a doctor's excuse for that game. Balt-Loss Moss's hammy will probably be acting up or he will get killed and you can't run on them.That will put you at 10-6and you still have to play Cincy who will probably be fighting desperately not to go winless. Always dangerous.and then you have Philly who will love to put you at 9-7. I don't think that will get you in.
6-2 is barely squeaking by?ETA.....week 11 is going to be huge for both teams. I'm looking forward to both teams coming off the bye for a huge game. Playoffs may hinge on that game for both teams.
 
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