How can the Jets brass continue on with Sanchez (1 Viewer)

[Big_Russel]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Maybe he could get Cooper Manning to play for him.

 

[Big_Russel]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Maybe he could get Cooper Manning to play for him.

Nah... not even ol' Coop would slum it like that.

 

[Warpig]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Francesca's and Benigno's shows will become more entertaining with these developments.

-QG

 

[FavreCo]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE! Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

No way do I see Manning finishing his career on a weakass team that Indy is. The Sanchize? He's no franchise QB. Middle of the road ham and egger. They could do worse yet they won't win it all with him.

 

[Big_Russel]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

i disagree. My take is that they all know what we have for quite some time and are just now voicing it. The locker room has been shredded like Enron docs on the eve of the bust. Guys arent pulling any punches.

 

[Big_Russel]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

No way do I see Manning finishing his career on a weakass team that Indy is. The Sanchize? He's no franchise QB. Middle of the road ham and egger. They could do worse yet they won't win it all with him.

With who?

 

[Reaper]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

 

[jwb]

As a fan who watches every snap, I am far from bailing on Sanchez in terms of skill. I think his biggest problem is - far and away - confidence. I'm quite certain guys like Holmes and Plax are not exactly helping, either - you can just tell that Sanchez sometimes forces the ball to keep guys happy. He definitely needs to take control. But to do that, he needs to know the OC and HC have his back. I'm not sure he feels that. Rex is somewhat wishy-washy in this regard (he wants everyone to like him). Schotty seemed the same way (it took him until the last drive of the last game to do something about Holmes - not exactly toughlove there.)

A new OC can only help Sanchez. But this prettymuch *is* it - he needs to show something.

 

[Big_Russel]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

Tough luck for Jets fans... High comedy for the rest of us.

 

[QuizGuy66]

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Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

Actually wonder if Chase has stats on this. Seems like most that flame out do so before 4 years are up. Sanchez is in an interesting middle-ground though (i.e. not Akili Smith shmabolic)-QG

 

[zamboni]

There are a lot of slings and arrows being thrown around in Jets land now, and for good reason.

As the offseason progresses though, I think cooler heads will prevail. For the good of the team, they're going to have to get behind Sanchez or they're done before the season starts. I expect that Sanchez will come out with a chip on his shoulder. For all the criticism, the guy wants to win badly - and he's tasted it before.

As mentioned in other threads though, look for the team to bring in someone much more credible than old man Brunell to push Sanchez. It's do or die in 2012 for him.

 

[Big_Russel]

As a fan who watches every snap, I am far from bailing on Sanchez in terms of skill. I think his biggest problem is - far and away - confidence. I'm quite certain guys like Holmes and Plax are not exactly helping, either - you can just tell that Sanchez sometimes forces the ball to keep guys happy. He definitely needs to take control. But to do that, he needs to know the OC and HC have his back. I'm not sure he feels that. Rex is somewhat wishy-washy in this regard (he wants everyone to like him). Schotty seemed the same way (it took him until the last drive of the last game to do something about Holmes - not exactly toughlove there.)

A new OC can only help Sanchez. But this prettymuch *is* it - he needs to show something.

Very true. Those two are dooshbags....but also, reflections of the coach. Puffy chests LOOK AT ME!!

 

[QuizGuy66]

As a fan who watches every snap, I am far from bailing on Sanchez in terms of skill. I think his biggest problem is - far and away - confidence. I'm quite certain guys like Holmes and Plax are not exactly helping, either - you can just tell that Sanchez sometimes forces the ball to keep guys happy. He definitely needs to take control. But to do that, he needs to know the OC and HC have his back. I'm not sure he feels that. Rex is somewhat wishy-washy in this regard (he wants everyone to like him). Schotty seemed the same way (it took him until the last drive of the last game to do something about Holmes - not exactly toughlove there.)

A new OC can only help Sanchez. But this prettymuch *is* it - he needs to show something.

Lots of anonymous sniping ought to help with this.-QG

 

[Warpig]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

i disagree. My take is that they all know what we have for quite some time and are just now voicing it. The locker room has been shredded like Enron docs on the eve of the bust. Guys arent pulling any punches.

Sorry I was confused. Looked like they were pulling punches on the playing field.

 

[Andrew Garda]

I'd take the anti-sanchez chatter more if Santonio Holmes and Cromartie would just put their names on their comments.

I'm not shocked if players lost faith overall though. Kinda gutless to do it anonymously but hey, they've struggled and Sanchez was NOT good most of time so the general tenor isn't surprising.

Mangold WAS out on twitter backing his QB up though.

Manning ain't happening. No financial way to work that out for the jets IMO.

Sanchez will get one more year and they will get a younger (than Brunell) vet to compete.

But I would guess this is Holmes being a jackass.

 

[Warpig]

As a fan who watches every snap, I am far from bailing on Sanchez in terms of skill. I think his biggest problem is - far and away - confidence. I'm quite certain guys like Holmes and Plax are not exactly helping, either - you can just tell that Sanchez sometimes forces the ball to keep guys happy. He definitely needs to take control. But to do that, he needs to know the OC and HC have his back. I'm not sure he feels that. Rex is somewhat wishy-washy in this regard (he wants everyone to like him). Schotty seemed the same way (it took him until the last drive of the last game to do something about Holmes - not exactly toughlove there.)A new OC can only help Sanchez. But this prettymuch *is* it - he needs to show something.

The guy has made progress this year as far as his stats (best year of his career if I'm not mistaken). But he has headcases like Holmes, Plax, and Bart Scott to deal with. Not to mention his blustery head coach.They let go of their best receiver in Jericho Cotchery. He was a blue collar guy...not a whiner like Plax and Holmes. And what good did it do the Jets? Stupid front office decisions. Sanchez has handled everything with class. He doesn't throw his players under any buses or whine to the media. He's a leader. He needs a little support from his team and I think he'll be just fine.If they don't get their coach and players under control, that team will be blown up and rebuilt from the front office down in the near future. If I were the owner, I'd be sick and tired of these negative headlines coming my team's way.

 

[FavreCo]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

No way do I see Manning finishing his career on a weakass team that Indy is. The Sanchize? He's no franchise QB. Middle of the road ham and egger. They could do worse yet they won't win it all with him.

With who?

Kolb. T-Joke. Either Redskin QB. Probably about 10 others.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Case Keenum

 

[Shutout]

From my experience it seems like by the time we in the general public start hearing about things being said, that is the time when it has already traveled down the slippery slope. So, to say Sanchez gets another full year may be a stretch because the level of discontent within the locker room has probably been there for a while..we are just now starting to see it ad naseum.

I am a bit surprised on people's comments re: Holmes. I get the fact that he has been a knucklehead and that Sanchez has personality. So its easier to not like Holmes than it is to not like sanchez.

But maybe Holmes is simply right on this one. Sanchez hasn't really displayed anything that makes you think of him as a guy that get it done. Without comparing him to the obvious leaders at the QB position that achieve regularly, even when compared against a guy like Philip Rivers or Matt Shaub, Sanchez really does not project like he can do the things the real leaders do. And the OC hasn't kept the reigns tight.

Maybe this is just simply one of the better talented players on the team opening his mouth and saying "we have to be more than this". Just my opinion, but take all the antics to the side and I certainly believe in Holmes' ability as a WR more than I do in Sanchezs' as a QB. There's really no one else on offense on this team that is going to say it. I know its not going to be met with the same reception as if someone like Calvin Johnson said something like this but maybe it IS the truth.

 

[Warpig]

Case Keenum

Would you want any QB from a Run and Shoot offense given their 30+ year history?

Teams that used or are using the Run & ShootThe following colleges and teams used the Run & Shoot as their main offensive strategy for at least a little while, with varying degrees of success.1974 Portland State: 5-6. QB Mike Gardner threw for 2,001 yards with 11 TD. 1975 Portland State: 8-3. QB June Jones threw for 2,280 yards with 25 TD. RB Byron Chambers ran for 533 yards and 5 TD. WR Scott Saxton had 1,091 yards receiving and 8 TD. 1976 Pacific Lutheran[1]: 6-4. RB John Horner had 985 yards. WR Al Bessette had 1,245 yards and 18 TD. 1976 Portland State: 8-3. QB June Jones threw for 3,518 yards with 25 TD. RB Jeff Salta ran for 673 yards and 21 TD. 1977 Lewis and Clark: 4-4. 1977 Portland State: 7-4. QBs Mike Atwood and Neil Lomax combined to throw for 3,644 yards with 32 TD. 1978 Lewis and Clark[2]: 2-7. QB Herm Tappin threw for 1,764 yards with 13 TD. 1978 Portland State: 5-6. QB Neil Lomax threw for 3,506 yards with 26 TD. RB Joel Sigel ran for 725 yards and 15 TD. WR John Urness had 1,052 yards receiving and 6 TD. 1979 Minnesota[3]: 4-6-1. QB Mark Carlson threw for 2,188 yards and 11 TD. RB Garry White ran for 866 yards with 6 TD. RB Marion Barber ran for 526 yards with 12 TD. WR Elmer Bailey had 522 yards receiving with 7 TD. 1979 Lewis and Clark: 5-4. QB Geoff Steenson threw for 1,527 yards with 10 TD. 1979 Portland State University: 6-5. QB Neil Lomax threw for 3,950 yards with 26 TD. RB Joel Sigel ran for 646 yards and 12 TD. WR Stuart Gaussion had 1,132 yards receiving and 8 TD. 1979 Williamette[4]: 1980 Florida: 8-4 - Won Tangerine Bowl. RB James Jones ran for 657 yards and 4 TD. 1980 Minnesota: 5-6. RB Garry White ran for 959 yards and 9 TD. RB Marion Barber ran for 769 yards and 11 TD. 1980 Portland State: 8-3. QB Neil Lomax threw for 4,094 yards with 37 TD. WR Clint Didier had 1,091 yards receiving and 12 TD. 1981 California: 2-7. 1981 Florida: 7-5 - Lost Peach Bowl. QB Wayne Peace threw for 1,803 yards with 11 TD. RB James Jones ran for 617 yards and 9 TD. 1981 Olympic Community College[5] 1982 Florida: 8-4 - Lost Bluebonnet Bowl. QB Wayne Peace threw for 2,053 yards with 8 TD. RB James Jones ran for 752 yards and 4 TD. RB Lorenzo Hampton ran for 664 yards and 6 TD. RB Neal Anderson ran for 449 yards and 6 TD. RB John L. Williams ran for 404 yards and 4 TD. 1982 Toronto Argonauts: 9-6-1 - Lost Grey Cup. QB Conredge Holloway threw for 4,661 yards with 31 TD. WR Terry Greer had 1,466 yards and 11 TD. 1982 Wilkes College[6]: 1983 Florida: 9-2-1 - Won Gator Bowl. QB Wayne Peace threw for 2,079 yards with 10 TD. RB Neal Anderson ran for 835 yards and 9 TD. RB John L. Williams ran for 553 yards and 5 TD. RB Lorenzo Hampton ran for 465 yards and 2 TD. 1983 Toronto Argonauts[7]: 12-4 - Won Grey Cup. QBs Conredge Holloway and Joe Barnes combined to throw for 5,458 yards with 29 TD. WR Terry Greer had 2003 yards and 8 TD. WR Emanuel Tolbert had 1,225 yards and 11 TD. 1984 Georgia Southern: 8-3 (31.1 PPG) 1984 Hanover College[8]: 1984 Houston Gamblers: 13-5 (34.3 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1984 Rice: 1-10. 1984 Widener[9]: 1985 California-State Northridge[10]: 1985 Denver Gold: 11-7 (24.1 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1985 Georgia Southern: 13-2 (30.7 PPG) - Won Division I-AA Championship 1985 Houston Gamblers: 10-8 (30.2 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1985 New Mexico State: 1-10. 1985 Ottawa Rough Riders[11]: 1985 Rice: 3-8. 1985 Widener[12]: 1986 Cincinnati: 5-6. QB Dave McCoin threw for 2,831 yards with 13 TD. RB Reggie Taylor ran for 1,325 yards with 11 TD. 1986 East Carolina: 2-9. RB Anthony Simpson ran for 753 yards with 5 TD. 1986 Holy Cross: 10-1 (28.5 PPG) 1986 New Haven: 8-2 (26.6 PPG) 1986 New Mexico[13]: 4-8. WR Terance Mathis had 955 yards receiving and 10 TD. 1986 Oregon Tech: 1986 Pittsburgh: 5-5-1. QB John Congemi threw for 2,048 yards with 11 TD. RB Craig Heyward ran for 756 yards with 8 TD. 1986 Rutgers: 5-5-1. QB Joe Gagliardi threw for 924 yards with 7 TD. RB Matt Prescott ran for 606 yards with 6 TD. 1986 South Carolina[14]: 3-6-2. QB Todd Ellis threw for 3,020 yards and 20 TD. RB Harold Green ran for 388 yards and 6 TD. WR Sterling Sharpe had 1,106 yards receiving and 10 TD. 1986 Southwestern Louisiana[15] 1986 Wyoming[16]: 6-6. QB Craig Burnett threw for 1,242 yards with 13 TD. WR James Loving had 673 yards receiving and 6 TD. 1987 Holy Cross: 11-0 (46.5 PPG) - Patriot League Champions 1987 Houston: 4-6-1. 1987 Houston Oilers: 1987 New Haven: 8-2 (26.7 PPG) 1987 Oregon Tech: 1987 South Carolina: 8-4 - Lost Gator Bowl. QB Todd Ellis threw for 3,206 yards with 10 TD. RB Harold Green ran for 1,022 yards and 15 TD. WR Sterling Sharpe had 915 yards receiving and 5 TD. 1987 Southwestern Louisiana: 1987 Wyoming: 10-3 - Lost Holiday Bowl. QB Craig Burnett threw for 3,131 yards and 21 TD. RB Gerald Abraham ran for 1,305 yards and 13 TD. WR Anthony Sargent had 929 yards receiving and 11 TD. 1988 Boston University: 4-7 (20.9 PPG) 1988 East Carolina[17]: 3-8. RB Tim James ran for 787 yards and 5 TD. 1988 Holy Cross: 9-2 (30.4 PPG) - Patriot League Champions 1988 Houston: 9-3 - Lost Aloha Bowl. QB Andre Ware threw for 2,507 yards with 25 TD. 1988 Houston Oilers: 1988 Kentucky: 5-6. RB Alfred Rawls ran for 477 yards and 7 TD. RB Ivy Joe Hunter ran for 451 yards and 6 TD. 1988 Oregon Tech: 1988 Southwestern Louisiana: 1988 Stanford: 3-6-2. QB Jason Palumbis threw for 1,569 yards and 8 TD. RB Jon Volpe ran for 1,027 yards and 6 TD. 1988 Wyoming: 11-2 - Lost Holiday Bowl. QB Randy Welniak threw for 2,791 yards with 21 TD. RB Dabby Dawson ran for 1,119 yards and 9 TD. 1989 Boston University: 4-7 (26.5 PPG) 1989 Detroit Lions: 7-9 (19.5 PPG) 1989 Holy Cross: 10-1 (36.0 PPG) - Patriot League Champions 1989 Houston: 9-2. QB Andre Ware threw for 4,699 yards with 46 TD. 1989 Houston Oilers: 1989 Merchant Marine: 5-4 1989 Pacific: 1989 Purdue: 3-8. QB Eric Hunter threw for 1,368 yards with 11 TD. WR Calvin Williams had 630 yards receiving and 7 TD. 1989 Southern Methodist[18]: 2-9. QB Mike Romo threw for 2,927 yards with 14 TD. WR Jason Wolf had 676 yards receiving and 4 TD. 1989 Southwestern Louisiana: 1989 Tennessee-Martin: 1989 Texas Christian: 4-7. QB Ron Jiles threw for 1,763 yards with 9 TD. RB Tommy Palmer ran for 642 yards and 3 TD. RB Curtis Modkins ran for 522 yards and 2 TD. 1989 Wyoming: 5-6. QB Tom Corontzos threw for 2,005 yards with 14 TD. RB Dabby Dawson ran for 1,005 yards and 6 TD. WR Gordy Wood had 632 yards receiving and 4 TD. 1990 Allegheny College: 13-0-1 (Won DIII National Championship Stagg Bowl) 1990 Atlanta Falcons: 5-11 (21.8 PPG) 1990 Brown: 2-8 (16.0 PPG) 1990 Detroit Lions: 6-10 (23.3 PPG) 1990 Hofstra: 12-1 (42.7 PPG) - Lost Division III Semifinal Game 1990 Holy Cross: 9-1-1 (30.8 PPG) - Patriot League Champions 1990 Houston: 10-1 - Won Coca-Cola Classic. QB David Klingler threw for 5,140 yards with 54 TD. RB Chuck Weatherspoon ran for 1,097 yards and 7 TD. WR Manny Hazard had 946 yards receiving and 9 TD. 1990 Houston Oilers: 9-7 (25.3 PPG) - Lost Wildcard Game 1990 Howard[19]: 6-5 (23.7 PPG) 1990 Indianapolis Colts: 7-9 (17.6 PPG) 1990 Pacific: 1990 Purdue[20]: 2-9. QB Eric Hunter threw for 2,355 yards with 12 TD. 1990 Seattle Seahawks[21]: 0-3[22] (14.7 PPG) 1990 Southern Methodist: 1-10. QB Mike Romo threw for 2,434 yards with 19 TD. 1990 Texas Christian: 5-6. QB Leon Clay threw for 1,565 yards with 16 TD. RB Curtis Modkins ran for 893 yards and 3 TD. WR Kelly Blackwell had 832 yards and 5 TD. 1990 Wesleyan: 1990 Wyoming: 9-4 - Lost Copper Bowl. QB Tom Corontzos threw for 2,956 yards with 15 TD. RB Dwight Driver ran for 684 yards and 5 TD. WR Shawn Wiggins had 1,018 yards and 6 TD. 1991 Allegheny College: 11-1 Lost in 2nd round of NCAA's 1991 Atlanta Falcons: 10-6 (22.6 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1991 Brown: 1-9 (22.7 PPG) 1991 Detroit Lions: 12-4 (21.2 PPG) - Lost NFC Championship Game 1991 Hofstra: 8-2 (38.0 PPG) 1991 Holy Cross: 11-0 (33.8 PPG) - Patriot League Champions 1991 Houston: 4-7. QB David Klingler threw for 3,388 yards with 29 TD. WR Marcus Grant had 1,262 yards receiving and 10 TD. WR Fred Gilbert had 957 yards receiving and 5 TD. 1991 Houston Oilers: 11-5 (24.1 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1991 Indianapolis Colts (Games 1-5): 0-5 (8.0 PPG) 1991 New Mexico: 3-9. QB Stoney Case threw for 1,564 yards with 10 TD. WR Carl Winston had 1,177 yards and 10 TD. 1991 New York/New Jersey Knights: 5-5 - Won North American East Division 1991 Pacific: 1991 San Diego Chargers[23]: 4-12 (17.1 PPG) 1991 Southern Methodist: 1-10 (12.8 PPG) 1991 Texas Christian: 7-4. RB Curtis Modkins ran for 659 yards and 6 TD. 1992 Allegheny College: 8-2 1992 Atlanta Falcons: 6-10 (20.4 PPG) 1992 Georgia Tech: 5-6. QB Shawn Jones threw for 2,397 yards with 15 TD. 1992 Hofstra: 4-6 (17.7 PPG) 1992 Houston: 4-7. QB Jimmy Klingler threw for 3,818 yards with 32 TD. RB Lamar Smith ran for 845 yards and 9 TD. WR Sherman Smith had 923 yards and 6 TD. 1992 Houston Oilers: 10-6 (22.0 PPG) - Lost Wildcard Game 1992 Maryland: 3-8. QB John Kaleo threw for 3,392 yards with 17 TD. WR Marcus Badgett had 1,240 yards and 9 TD. 1992 Minnesota: 2-9. QB Marquel Fleetwood threw for 2,168 yards with 7 TD. RB Antonio Carter ran for 572 yards and 5 TD. 1992 New Haven: 12-1 (47.2 PPG) - Lost Division II Semifinal Game 1992 New York/New Jersey Knights: 6-4 1992 Pacific: 1992 Southern Methodist: 5-6. QB Dan Freiburger threw for 2,580 yards with 15 TD. WR Korey Beard had 813 yards and 6 TD. 1993 Allegheny College: 9-2 (Lost 1st round of NCAA's) 1993 Atlanta Falcons: 6-10 (19.8 PPG) 1993 Boston: 12-1 (33.5 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA Quarterfinal Game 1993 California-Davis: 10-2 (38.3 PPG) - Lost Division II Quarterfinal Game 1993 Georgia Tech: 5-6. RB Dorsey Levens ran for 823 yards and 8 TD. RB William Bell ran for 752 yards and 7 TD. 1993 Hofstra: 6-3-1 (27.1 PPG) 1993 Houston Oilers: 12-4 (23.0 PPG) - Lost Division Game 1993 Long Island-C.W. Post: 1993 Maryland: 2-9. QB Scott Milanovich threw for 3,499 yards with 26 TD. WR Jermaine Lewis had 957 yards and 7 TD. 1993 Minnesota: 4-7 (23.0 PPG) 1993 New Haven: 1993 Pacific: 1993 Southern Methodist: 2-7-2. 1994 Allegheny College: 10-1 (Lost 1st round of NCAA's) 1994 Atlanta Falcons: 7-9 (19.8 PPG) 1994 Boston: 9-3 (33.0 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA 1st Round Game 1994 George Mason: 1994 Hofstra: 8-1-1 (37.1 PPG) 1994 Houston Oilers: 1-9 w/Jack Pardee (14.7 PPG) 1994 Maryland: 4-7. QB Scott Milanovich threw for 2,394 yards with 20 TD. WR Geroy Simon had 891 yards and 5 TD. 1994 Pacific: 1994 Southern Methodist: 1-9-1. WR Mick Rossley had 857 yards and 4 TD. 1995 Allegheny College: 9-1 1995 Atlanta Falcons: 9-7 (22.6 PPG) - Lost Wildcard Game 1995 Emporia State[24]: 1995 Hofstra: 10-2 (32.8 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA 1st Round Game 1995 Jacksonville Jaguars[25]: 4-12 (17.2 PPG) 1995 Maryland: 6-5. RB Buddy Rodgers ran for 718 yards and 7 TD. WR Jermaine Lewis had 937 yards and 3 TD. 1995 Pacific: 1995 Southern Methodist: 1-10. 1995 Wake Forest: 1-10. QB Rusty LaRue threw for 2,775 yards with 17 TD. WR Marlon Estes had 833 yards and 9 TD. 1996 Holy Cross 1996 Allegheny College: 10-1 (Lost 1st round of NCAA's) 1996 Atlanta Falcons: 3-13 (19.3 PPG) 1996 California-Santa Barbara: 1996 California University of Pennsylvania[26]: 1996 Georgetown: 7-3 (30.3 PPG) 1996 Hofstra: 5-6 (18.5 PPG) 1996 Jacksonville Jaguars: 9-7 (20.3 PPG) - Lost AFC Championship Game 1996 Marshall: 15-0 - Won Division I-AA Championship. QB Eric Kresser threw for 3,407 yards with 31 TD. WR Randy Moss had 1,709 yards and 28 TD. 1996 Southern Methodist: 5-6 (22.4 PPG) 1996 Washington State (Spread): 5-6. QB Ryan Leaf threw for 2,811 yards with 21 TD. RB Michael Black ran for 948 yards and 8 TD. 1997 Holy Cross: 1997 Allegheny College: 9-2 (Lost 1st round NCAA's) 1997 Butler: 1997 California-State Northridge: 1997 Georgetown: 8-3 (25.1 PPG) - Lost Eastern Athletic Conference College Bowl 1997 Hofstra: 9-3 (33.1 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA 1st Round Game 1997 Marshall: 10-3 - Lost Motor City Bowl. QB Chad Pennington threw for 3,480 yards with 39 TD. RB Doug Chapman ran for 908 yards and 10 TD. WR Randy Moss had 1,647 yards and 25 TD. 1997 San Diego Chargers: 4-12 (16.6 PPG) 1997 Washington State (Spread): 10-2 (40.3 PPG) - Lost Rose Bowl 1998 Georgetown: 9-2 (29.5 PPG) - Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference Co-Champions 1998 Hofstra: 8-3 (38.7 PPG) 1998 San Diego Chargers: 5-11 (15.1 PPG) 1999 Georgetown: 9-2 (33.1 PPG) - Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference Champions 1999 Hawaii: 9-4 - Won Oahu Classic. QB Dan Robinson threw for 3,853 yards with 28 TD. WR Dwight Carter had 1,253 yards and 9 TD. 1999 Hofstra: 11-2 (32.2 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA Quarterfinal Game 1999 Jackson State[27]: 9-3 (37.3 PPG) - Lost SWAC Championship 1999 Georgetown College: NAIA National Runner-Up 2000 Hawaii: 3-9. QB Timmy Chang threw for 3,049 yards with 19 TD. WR Ashley Lelie had 1,110 yards and 11 TD. 2000 Hofstra: 9-4 (34.2 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA Quarterfinal Game 2000 Virginia Military Institute: 2-9 (20.6 PPG) 2000 Georgetown College: NAIA National Champion 2001 Georgetown College: NAIA National Champion 2001 Hawaii: 9-3. QB Nick Rolovich threw for 3,361 yards with 34 TD. WR Ashley Lelie had 1,713 yards and 19 TD. 2001 Hofstra: 9-3 (36.8 PPG) - Lost Division I-AA 1st Round Game 2001 Virginia Military Institute: 1-10 (14.9 PPG) 2002 Hawaii: 10-4 - Lost Hawaii Bowl. QB Timmy Chang threw for 4,474 yards with 25 TD. WR Justin Colbert had 1,302 yards and 8 TD. 2002 Virginia Military Institute: 6-6 (26.2 PPG) 2003 Bickley Bison: 10-1 2003 Butler[28]: 2003 Hawaii: 9-5 - Won Hawaii Bowl. QB Timmy Chang threw for 4,199 yards with 29 TD. WR Chad Owens had 1,134 yards and 9 TD. WR Jeremiah Cockheran had 997 yards and 9 TD. 2003 Saint Mary's[29]: 1-11 (13.5 PPG) 2003 Southwest Texas State (Triple Shoot)[30]: 4-8 (26.3 PPG) 2003 Virginia Military Institute: 6-6. QB Jonathan Wilson threw for 2,260 yards with 12 TD. RB Sean Mizzer ran for 1,244 yards and 8 TD. 2004 Hawaii: 8-5 - Won Hawaii Bowl. QB Timmy Chang threw for 4,285 yards with 38 TD. RB Michael Brewster ran for 722 yards and 6 TD. WR Chad Owens had 1,290 yards and 17 TD. 2005 Hawaii: 5-7. QB Colt Brennan threw for 4,301 yards with 35 TD. WR Ryan Grice-Mullen had 1,228 yards and 12 TD. WR Davone Bess had 1,124 yards and 14 TD. 2006 Hawaii: 11-3 - Won Hawaii Bowl. QB Colt Brennan threw for 5,549 yards with 58 TD. RB Nate Ilaoa ran for 990 yards and 13 TD. WR Davone Bess had 1,220 yards and 15 TD. WR Jason Rivers had 1,178 yards and 10 TD. 2007 Hawaii: 12-1 - Lost Sugar Bowl. QB Colt Brennan threw for 4,343 yards with 38 TD. WR Ryan Grice-Mullen had 1,372 yards and 13 TD. WR Davone Bess had 1,266 yards and 12 TD. WR Jason Rivers had 1,174 yards and 13 TD. 2007 Portland State[31]: 3-8. QBs Brian White and Drew Hubel combined to throw for 3,641 yards with 25 TD. 2008 Hawaii: 7-7 - Lost Hawaii Bowl. QB Greg Alexander threw for 1,895 yards with 14 TD. 2008 Portland State: 4-7. QB Drew Hubel threw for 2,912 yards with 18 TD. WR Aaron Woods had 1,028 yards receiving and 6 TD. WR Mario D'Ambrosio had 900 yards receiving and 9 TD. 2008 Southern Methodist: 1-11. QB Bo Levi Mitchell threw for 2,865 yards with 24 TD. WR Aldrick Robinson had 1,047 yards and 11 TD. 2009 Hawaii: 6-7. QB Bryant Moniz threw for 2,396 yards with 14 TD. WR Greg Salas had 1,590 yards and 8 TD. 2009 Portland State: 2-9. QB Drew Hubel threw for 1,976 yards with 9 TD. WR Ray Fry had 904 yards receiving and 3 TD. 2009 Southern Methodist: 8-5 - Won Hawaii Bowl. QBs Bo Levi Mitchell and Kyle Padron combined to throw for 3,647 yards with 22 TD. RB Shawnbrey McNeal ran for 1,188 yards and 12 TD. WR Emmanuel Sanders had 1,339 yards and 7 TD. 2010 Hawaii: 10-4 - Lost Hawaii Bowl. QB Bryant Moniz threw for 5,040 yards with 39 TD. RB Alex Green ran for 1,163 yards and 18 TD. WR Greg Salas had 1,889 yards and 14 TD. WR Kealoha Pilares had 1,306 yards and 15 TD. 2010 Southern Methodist: 7-7 - Lost Armed Forces Bowl. QB Kyle Padron threw for 3,828 yards with 31 TD. RB Zach Line ran for 1,465 yards and 10 TD. WR Aldrick Robinson had 1,301 yards and 14 TD. WR Cole Beasley had 1,060 yards and 6 TD. 2011 Hawaii: 2011 Southern Methodist:

 

[Leroy Hoard]

in that case just forget it.

 

[Workhorse]

I've read in various places that Sanchez improved statistically this season and I'm not buying it:

Yards per attempt:

2009: 6.7

2010: 6.5

2011: 6.4

This doesn't look like progress to me.

 

[Big_Russel]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

No way do I see Manning finishing his career on a weakass team that Indy is. The Sanchize? He's no franchise QB. Middle of the road ham and egger. They could do worse yet they won't win it all with him.

With who?

Kolb. T-Joke. Either Redskin QB. Probably about 10 others.

10 is a huge stretch. i'd love to see that list. That said... I do feel for the kid (a little, after all he is rich and good looking). It's a horrible atmosphere for a youger QB with limited tools and short on confidence to be in. I actually think he'd do better back in Cali on a team like SF.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

From my experience it seems like by the time we in the general public start hearing about things being said, that is the time when it has already traveled down the slippery slope. So, to say Sanchez gets another full year may be a stretch because the level of discontent within the locker room has probably been there for a while..we are just now starting to see it ad naseum.I am a bit surprised on people's comments re: Holmes. I get the fact that he has been a knucklehead and that Sanchez has personality. So its easier to not like Holmes than it is to not like sanchez. But maybe Holmes is simply right on this one. Sanchez hasn't really displayed anything that makes you think of him as a guy that get it done. Without comparing him to the obvious leaders at the QB position that achieve regularly, even when compared against a guy like Philip Rivers or Matt Shaub, Sanchez really does not project like he can do the things the real leaders do. And the OC hasn't kept the reigns tight. Maybe this is just simply one of the better talented players on the team opening his mouth and saying "we have to be more than this". Just my opinion, but take all the antics to the side and I certainly believe in Holmes' ability as a WR more than I do in Sanchezs' as a QB. There's really no one else on offense on this team that is going to say it. I know its not going to be met with the same reception as if someone like Calvin Johnson said something like this but maybe it IS the truth.

Agree with this.Holmes is definitely a piece of work. However, he is a very talented WR. Among the best in the NFL. Since he's become a Jet, he's had career lows in receptions, yards and yards/catch. He just completed his 6th season, and is supposed to be in the absolute prime of his career. The fact that Sanchez will not throw downfield, and is sometimes shockingly inaccurate with short passes has held back the entire Jet offense for all three of his years in the league. If he truly is lazy, I can see how there would be serious discontent amongst the team.

 

[FavreCo]

Peyton Manning is going NOWHERE!

Anyway, competition is always good. It's like the players are saying they are waiting for Sanchez to show them the way. I don't think they have lost all hope. Just waiting for him to take the next step as a leader. But if he continues to mire in mediocrity in 2012, that could be the deciding factor in his exit/demise.

That whole organization is starting to get as comical as the Al Davis led Raiders of the past 10 years.

No way do I see Manning finishing his career on a weakass team that Indy is. The Sanchize? He's no franchise QB. Middle of the road ham and egger. They could do worse yet they won't win it all with him.

With who?

Kolb. T-Joke. Either Redskin QB. Probably about 10 others.

10 is a huge stretch. i'd love to see that list. That said... I do feel for the kid (a little, after all he is rich and good looking). It's a horrible atmosphere for a youger QB with limited tools and short on confidence to be in. I actually think he'd do better back in Cali on a team like SF.

Definatively worse or borderline worse starters?Moore

Fitz.

McCoy

Gabbert

Cassel

Ponder

Freeman

Ok 10 is stretching it. Downgrading the Sanchize to bottom feeder.

 

[zamboni]

Maybe this is just simply one of the better talented players on the team opening his mouth and saying "we have to be more than this". Just my opinion, but take all the antics to the side and I certainly believe in Holmes' ability as a WR more than I do in Sanchezs' as a QB. There's really no one else on offense on this team that is going to say it. I know its not going to be met with the same reception as if someone like Calvin Johnson said something like this but maybe it IS the truth.

If Holmes were the leader that he is supposed to be, he could have been constructively vocal about the whole team - including Sanchez - needing to be better. But instead, he acted like a punk and visibly - and publicly - quit on the team in the last game. So his credibility is nil.

 

[Reaper]

My Link

Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

Tough luck for Jets fans... High comedy for the rest of us.

Whatever floats your boat....

Meanwhile 2 of his 3 years were among the best years most Jets fans have EVER seen.

This year was as close as a game away from last years punchers chance in the playoffs and when it comes to Sanchez EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of football around him deteriorated....

Defense, OL, Running game, WR"s.... everything else crashed....

Personally, My expectations for this coming year will be higher than they were this past year given the Offensive shakeup and Sanchez with the hammer over his head.

 

[jwb]

Maybe this is just simply one of the better talented players on the team opening his mouth and saying "we have to be more than this". Just my opinion, but take all the antics to the side and I certainly believe in Holmes' ability as a WR more than I do in Sanchezs' as a QB. There's really no one else on offense on this team that is going to say it. I know its not going to be met with the same reception as if someone like Calvin Johnson said something like this but maybe it IS the truth.

If Holmes were the leader that he is supposed to be, he could have been constructively vocal about the whole team - including Sanchez - needing to be better. But instead, he acted like a punk and visibly - and publicly - quit on the team in the last game. So his credibility is nil.

Holmes' track record also leads me to believe he's really not very good at this. Pittsburgh let him go for a song. You don't normally do that with such a talented player.

 

[Reaper]

My Link

Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

Actually wonder if Chase has stats on this. Seems like most that flame out do so before 4 years are up. Sanchez is in an interesting middle-ground though (i.e. not Akili Smith shmabolic)-QG

With Sanchez' lack of college experience along with the team success and the fact that every single aspect of the game crashed around him last season, I think it's pretty reasonable to get some competetion in and Throw him in the Fire.....

Also his rookie contract is coming up so, at some point you cash in and don't throw good money after bad.

Really, as a Jets fan, this is nuttin' for me.... I've seen My Franchise Truly Meltdown on many occasions, this I'll take.

 

[zamboni]

Maybe this is just simply one of the better talented players on the team opening his mouth and saying "we have to be more than this". Just my opinion, but take all the antics to the side and I certainly believe in Holmes' ability as a WR more than I do in Sanchezs' as a QB. There's really no one else on offense on this team that is going to say it. I know its not going to be met with the same reception as if someone like Calvin Johnson said something like this but maybe it IS the truth.

If Holmes were the leader that he is supposed to be, he could have been constructively vocal about the whole team - including Sanchez - needing to be better. But instead, he acted like a punk and visibly - and publicly - quit on the team in the last game. So his credibility is nil.

Holmes' track record also leads me to believe he's really not very good at this. Pittsburgh let him go for a song. You don't normally do that with such a talented player.

Yes, it's beginning to make sense why the Steelers let him go for so little, but don't forget that he had - and still does - a longer suspension looming if he screws up one more time.

 

[Flying Elvis]

One source who won't even man up enough to be named doesn't really mean the entire team has lost faith in him. As much as I love watching the Jets self destruct, I find it tough to pick a side with BS like this.

If he's truly lazy he won't last long and will be out after his contract is up. But there's nothing to see here . . . until we start seeing more comments from like it and see names attached.

 

[Reaper]

One source who won't even man up enough to be named doesn't really mean the entire team has lost faith in him. As much as I love watching the Jets self destruct, I find it tough to pick a side with BS like this.

If he's truly lazy he won't last long and will be out after his contract is up. But there's nothing to see here . . . until we start seeing more comments from like it and see names attached.

From Nick Mangold:

"at least put your name on it so we can work it out"

"comments are wrong and false"

"it couldnt me more further than the truth. Mark puts in more work and more time, cares about the team more than anyone else in the locker room"

" I didn't get that from any of our guys" responding to question is there a divide in the locker room about Sanchez

"Having this coming out requires me to question motive"

"I don't believe that" responding to are there players that don't care about winning or losing "If that isn't the truth, I don't want them here"

"yes 100%." responding to do you believe in your QB

"We didnt put him in a position to win. Didnt block as well, didnt run the ball as well as we should of. Not at all ( asked if mark is thin skinned). I'll probably shoot him (Mark) a text after things settle down a bit. I'm sure he has already moved beyond it"

"Mark Sanchez is my guy, I wanna go into battle with him."

"It was disappointing to see but I know Tone will fix the issues and be ready to go next season"

"I think its disappointing since you are used to going into the playoffs and deep into it. That is what we expected"

"Turnover happens every year and the biggest thing we missed was no OTAs and lockout. Hurt out team more than losing guys and bringing different guys." asked about losing players hurt the team or not

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Again.. i just think it's silly when every "Footballguy" around here can recite EXACTLY what it would take for a young QB to win in this league and then we can point to every single facet of the game around Sanchez completely falling apart this year.

Honestly - I think Rex should look in the mirror and step away from the Sanchez talk for a second and question himself wether his Prized defense was anywhere near what he thought it would be last year - Start THERE because no matter what, like many teams the Jets need to be a top Defesive unit above all else.

A better defense alone, a Defense that Rex thought he had Gets even this past years Jets team into the playoffs with a punchers chance like last year.

 

[glock]

One source who won't even man up enough to be named doesn't really mean the entire team has lost faith in him. As much as I love watching the Jets self destruct, I find it tough to pick a side with BS like this.

If he's truly lazy he won't last long and will be out after his contract is up. But there's nothing to see here . . . until we start seeing more comments from like it and see names attached.

From Nick Mangold:

"at least put your name on it so we can work it out"

"comments are wrong and false"

"it couldnt me more further than the truth. Mark puts in more work and more time, cares about the team more than anyone else in the locker room"

" I didn't get that from any of our guys" responding to question is there a divide in the locker room about Sanchez

"Having this coming out requires me to question motive"

"I don't believe that" responding to are there players that don't care about winning or losing "If that isn't the truth, I don't want them here"

"yes 100%." responding to do you believe in your QB

"We didnt put him in a position to win. Didnt block as well, didnt run the ball as well as we should of. Not at all ( asked if mark is thin skinned). I'll probably shoot him (Mark) a text after things settle down a bit. I'm sure he has already moved beyond it"

"Mark Sanchez is my guy, I wanna go into battle with him."

"It was disappointing to see but I know Tone will fix the issues and be ready to go next season"

"I think its disappointing since you are used to going into the playoffs and deep into it. That is what we expected"

"Turnover happens every year and the biggest thing we missed was no OTAs and lockout. Hurt out team more than losing guys and bringing different guys." asked about losing players hurt the team or not

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Again.. i just think it's silly when every "Footballguy" around here can recite EXACTLY what it would take for a young QB to win in this league and then we can point to every single facet of the game around Sanchez completely falling apart this year.

Honestly - I think Rex should look in the mirror and step away from the Sanchez talk for a second and question himself wether his Prized defense was anywhere near what he thought it would be last year - Start THERE because no matter what, like many teams the Jets need to be a top Defesive unit above all else.

A better defense alone, a Defense that Rex thought he had Gets even this past years Jets team into the playoffs with a punchers chance like last year.

 

[Sinrman]

Even when they took him in the draft, I thought he'd be a subpar QB. I think the Jet's brass will be too stubborn to pull the plug on him for at least another year or two.

No one likes to admit defeat...

 

[jurb26]

Even when they took him in the draft, I thought he'd be a subpar QB. I think the Jet's brass will be too stubborn to pull the plug on him for at least another year or two.No one likes to admit defeat...

Funny, I think you and I were clearly in the minority on that one. What ever happened to all those Sanchez vs. Stafford debate threads anyway?I wanted to like Sanchez, I really did. It seemed apparent that he was a product of the system his rookie year though.It's hard to blame the Jets for reacting slowly to doing something about it. With the way things had been set up these early draft picks at QB basically hold your franchise hostage for several years. At this point I think the Jets should look to the FA market and try to get the best possible option out there.

 

[flapgreen]

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The New York Jets ended months of Peyton Manning speculation Friday night with an emphatic statement, announcing a three-year contract extension for incumbent Mark Sanchez.

The Jets made Sanchez one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in the NFL after a season in which they openly admitted they weren't pleased with his rate of development. The timing also is curious, coming only hours after they were eliminated from the Manning sweepstakes.

Rather than continue chasing Peyton Manning, the Jets decided to go all in with Mark Sanchez, writes James Walker. Blog

The contract includes $20.5 million in guarantees and $40.5 million in "new" money, bringing his total over five years to $58.25 million, according to sources. He can make an additional $10 million in escalators.

The $58.25 million gives Sanchez the seventh-highest financial package among NFL quarterbacks, sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

 

[flapgreen]

Wow. The Jets are going to suck for years and Rex Ryan is going to get fired.

 

[njherdfan]

I'm pretty sure the "new money" and the "guaranteed money" are separate. Sanchez already had a ton of money guaranteed to him before signing this extension, and I don't believe this extension gives him any new, guaranteed money. From what I've read, it will create cap room this year for the Jets and make it slightly more expensive, but not prohibitive, to cut Sanchez after this year. I think that if Sanchez is awful again this year, he'll be gone. Personally, I think it will be a year too late, but I really doubt the Jets would fork over a ton of new, guaranteed money.

 

[Truman]

Weird for Rex Ryan to re-up with Sanchez again. You would think after 3 years of disappointment he would be ready to actually get rid of the main contributor to his team's failure.

 

[The Comedian]

Did the Jets and Redskins make a bet on who could have the crazier day?!?!?

If so, Jets win.

 

[Patoons]

Mangold WAS out on twitter backing his QB up though.

He also went on ESPN radio to back him up that same day. Yeah, Sanchez is average, but he catches a ton of flack when Schotty RARELY let him throw down the field. It didn't do him any favors with how defenses played him. I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt to see if he can improve under a new OC. If not, I agree, he's finished, but until then... I still contend that he's better than he's given credit for and can win games and be a successful NFL QB. There are a few choice guys in that locker room sandbagging Sanchez as AG stated above. What the Jets need is a positive vocal leader in that locker room. Until they get that, it's going to be difficult to win much of anything.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think that Rex really believes all of his rah-rah crap. He figures if he can properly motivate Sanchez, they will just win. He probably thinks a couple more jokes and some false bravado is all he needs to do. Rex has gone from highly respected "players" coach to a punchline.

 

[LBH]

It's too early to give up on Sanchez in my opinion. Who would the Jets replace him with right now? Flynn is the only interesting possibility for me, but what has he shown? A nice game last year against the Lions, and a solid showing in a loss to the pats the year before. I'll pass on that sample size for what the investment would need to be.

 

[zamboni]

I'm pretty sure the "new money" and the "guaranteed money" are separate. Sanchez already had a ton of money guaranteed to him before signing this extension, and I don't believe this extension gives him any new, guaranteed money. From what I've read, it will create cap room this year for the Jets and make it slightly more expensive, but not prohibitive, to cut Sanchez after this year. I think that if Sanchez is awful again this year, he'll be gone. Personally, I think it will be a year too late, but I really doubt the Jets would fork over a ton of new, guaranteed money.

I haven't looked at the details too much, but I also get the sense that they're stretching the contract out more to create more cap room this year and reduce the potential hit in the future.I think the biggest takeaway though is that Peyton doesn't want to play here, and the Jets are trying to do some spin control with the contract illustrating that Sanchez was the guy all the time.

 

[azgroover]

We can now start speculating on which team is going to make Rex it's defensive coordinator next off-season.

 

[Reaper]

My Link

Peyton Manning is a pipe dream. He'd never play for that blowhard.

Regardless of what is said, what is twisted and what anyone thinks - most QB's in the NFL get 4 years to prove themselves...

So, whatever happens - Sanchez comes back with a full offseason with Competition and either sinks or swims....

Pretty simple when you wipe away all the bull ####.

Actually wonder if Chase has stats on this. Seems like most that flame out do so before 4 years are up. Sanchez is in an interesting middle-ground though (i.e. not Akili Smith shmabolic)-QG

With Sanchez' lack of college experience along with the team success and the fact that every single aspect of the game crashed around him last season, I think it's pretty reasonable to get some competetion in and Throw him in the Fire.....

Also his rookie contract is coming up so, at some point you cash in and don't throw good money after bad.

Really, as a Jets fan, this is nuttin' for me.... I've seen My Franchise Truly Meltdown on many occasions, this I'll take.

I'm a little dazed from that blow.... But, I have to believe like most contracts people go crazy over, when the numbers are crunched the Jets are freeing up money and still have an out at worst after 2 years....

Again, never would have drafted the guy. But, I find it funny how people completly abandon a QB these days when for decades most agreed it took time for QB's to develop.

To repeat:

EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the NY Jets football team took a step back last year - How can you evaluate a QB when the OL gives him little time and the WR's have been switched up again and the deep threat was taken away while the Defense while still ok, is not winning any games on their own or coming close to being dominating as advertised....

All that and we had an 8-8 team.....

Again, My expectations for the coming year are pretty much where they were going into last year.... While media swings from disaster to SUPER BOWL to Disaster - I'm right here, even keeled looking at a team that can do exactly what it did in 09 and 10.. win 10 games or so and make waves in the dance.

A lot will depend on what holes Tanny can fill with the money he now has to spend and the draft.

But, we know the playcalling won't be as insane and this team will run the ball so, some things do look up.

 

[TLEF316]

I am absolutely lower on Sanchez than I was a year ago. Much lower. His overall numbers ended up looking better, but the number of stupid mistakes stayed the same or got worse. I've been calling for Schottenheimer to get #### canned for 3 years now. He's always been awful. I used to think the Jets "problems" were like 80% Schotty and 20% young Sanchez. Now I'm thinking it was more 60-40 (still more schotty. Seriously, he was that bad).

But yes, the entire team took a step back last year. The line fell apart several times during the year. I'm willing to give Sanchez a year with a different play caller to see if he can start improving a bit. Don't get me wrong: he made way too many awful, high school level mistakes last year. But the kid has some guts and he has the physical ability. He's not done yet, although I'm obviously very, very worried.

I'm far from a cap expert, but I believe this extension frees up some cap room. If the Jets can get Holmes back in line and add the following, I believe this can absolutely be an above average offense if Sparano and Sanchez are even slightly above average....

1) A big deep threat WR (Plaxico was useless outside the red zone last year. No separation).

2) A RT that isn't the worst in the league (if there was a RT worse than Hunter last year, his QB must not be standing anymore)

3) A change of pace RB who can make plays in space. (or at least a guy to share the load with Greene who can actually break a big run).

And of course, the defense has issues as well. Need a big time safety, OLB and a replacement for Bart Scott (who is finished)

If the Jets can find 2 or 3 starters in the draft, (I know this is far from a lock) add 2 mid-level FA's at positions of need and get some improvement out of #6, this can absolutely be a playoff team again next year.