How come NFL can't go to Pay per view? (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?

apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

 

[3C's]

I think they would lose a lot of viewers. Some people won't pay for what they are used to getting for "free". I know I'm about done with paying for Sunday Ticket. It's getting expensive. I only re-upped this year because they gave me a free HD Tivo.

 

[brettdj]

They thought about going to pay per view for all games during the last DTV contract talks.

I think that will kill them. No local games, just pay per view.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Because NOBODY would watch Lions games on Thanksgiving.

 

[dparker713]

PPV would increase profits initially, but in the long run its a big loser - just ask boxing.

 

[Nugget]

Doesn't the NFL have a multi Billion $$ TV package? Are they running low on cash? I think they are OK as is.

 

[Bri]

I worded this poorly, see first post please

 

[twistd]

I worded this poorly, see first post please

Also look at what hockey has experienced. When you make it expensive or difficult for the casual fan to see it kills you in the long run.

 

[Bri]

I worded this poorly, see first post please

Also look at what hockey has experienced. When you make it expensive or difficult for the casual fan to see it kills you in the long run.

In addition to what's offerredPPV is not difficult.Like why can't I click PPV and get the Chiefs game tonight? Or Why can't some Pats fan in California watch the Pats on Sunday? Then they give some % of money to NFLN(same sompany separate entity I guess) CBS, and DirecTV?

 

[jevy]

I worded this poorly, see first post please

Also look at what hockey has experienced. When you make it expensive or difficult for the casual fan to see it kills you in the long run.

In addition to what's offerredPPV is not difficult.Like why can't I click PPV and get the Chiefs game tonight? Or Why can't some Pats fan in California watch the Pats on Sunday? Then they give some % of money to NFLN(same sompany separate entity I guess) CBS, and DirecTV?

It's not feasible to do PPV if you'll only have a few thousand people buying the games.

 

[3C's]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

In addition? What would they add? I already get all of the games from network broadcast and Sunday Ticket. If they took some of those away and put them on PPV I wouldn't watch them. If the Super Bowl went PPV, I wouldn't watch it, unless my team was in it. Actually, I might get a group together to split the costs. Maybe.

 

[Bri]

I worded this poorly, see first post please

Also look at what hockey has experienced. When you make it expensive or difficult for the casual fan to see it kills you in the long run.

In addition to what's offerredPPV is not difficult.Like why can't I click PPV and get the Chiefs game tonight? Or Why can't some Pats fan in California watch the Pats on Sunday? Then they give some % of money to NFLN(same sompany separate entity I guess) CBS, and DirecTV?

It's not feasible to do PPV if you'll only have a few thousand people buying the games.

I understand it as it costs X amount to broadcast the game so we don't have 8 zillion PPV things because TV companies don't want to cough up that initial money. However, it's already being broadcast so what extra does it cost them? what's not feasible?

 

[Bri]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

In addition? What would they add? I already get all of the games from network broadcast and Sunday Ticket. If they took some of those away and put them on PPV I wouldn't watch them. If the Super Bowl went PPV, I wouldn't watch it, unless my team was in it. Actually, I might get a group together to split the costs. Maybe.

for all the people that don't have the ticket.

 

[Diamond One]

Aren't they playing around with that concept now via NFL Network?

 

[3C's]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

In addition? What would they add? I already get all of the games from network broadcast and Sunday Ticket. If they took some of those away and put them on PPV I wouldn't watch them. If the Super Bowl went PPV, I wouldn't watch it, unless my team was in it. Actually, I might get a group together to split the costs. Maybe.

for all the people that don't have the ticket.

I think that would decrease the value of the ticket, therefore DTV would pay less for the rights.

 

[Bri]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

In addition? What would they add? I already get all of the games from network broadcast and Sunday Ticket. If they took some of those away and put them on PPV I wouldn't watch them. If the Super Bowl went PPV, I wouldn't watch it, unless my team was in it. Actually, I might get a group together to split the costs. Maybe.

for all the people that don't have the ticket.

I think that would decrease the value of the ticket, therefore DTV would pay less for the rights.

dishnetwork, or the threat of, would keep the price high, don't ya think?

 

[Reek]

For those of us compelled by the networks to watch dreadful local teams (Browns), an option to watch another game from the same network, which they are broadcasting elsewhere anyway, would seem to be a reasonable option.

 

[Assani Fisher]

And give DirecTV and/or cable company a % of profits?apparently I poorly worded this I mean in addition to what's out there now

In addition? What would they add? I already get all of the games from network broadcast and Sunday Ticket. If they took some of those away and put them on PPV I wouldn't watch them. If the Super Bowl went PPV, I wouldn't watch it, unless my team was in it. Actually, I might get a group together to split the costs. Maybe.

You really wouldn't watch the SB? Are you a football fan or not? I couldn't imagine missing the SB even if I had to pay a ridiculous price like over $1000.

 

[Bobcat10]

Aren't they playing around with that concept now via NFL Network?

Yep I think so. We're only in the beginning stages of the NFL Network. 8 games this season is diddly squat in comparison to their future goals, imo.

 

[Bri]

For those of us compelled by the networks to watch dreadful local teams (Browns), an option to watch another game from the same network, which they are broadcasting elsewhere anyway, would seem to be a reasonable option.

I think this is an extremely common thought of NFL fans every Sunday. First they want their team to do well and next they at least want to be entertained each week.

 

[wertwert]

I've always thought the NFL should view some games in PPV and air everything uncensored. I've always wanted to hear all the smack that flies around

 

[Symbius]

For those of us compelled by the networks to watch dreadful local teams (Browns), an option to watch another game from the same network, which they are broadcasting elsewhere anyway, would seem to be a reasonable option.

Wouldn't be a bad option in my opinion...Leave everything EXACTLY the way it is right now with being able to watch whatever is on locally. However, place ALL the other games onto PPV for 5-10 bucks per game.If your local game sucks, go buy one from another market.Move to another state, but still want to follow your own team... however, you don't want to drop 260 bucks for ALL the games.Just buy the game from your old city on a weekly basis. Would be a perfect system and still leave DirecTV as the only source with the Ticket to see ALL the games at a cheaper price.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

For those of us compelled by the networks to watch dreadful local teams (Browns), an option to watch another game from the same network, which they are broadcasting elsewhere anyway, would seem to be a reasonable option.

From what I've read in the past it is less the exclusive arrangement with DirecTV and more local ad revenue that prevents this from being an option. That CBS (sometimes Fox) local affiliate that shows you the Browns won't allow the NFL to market out of market games to a large subscriber base. The reason DTV is ok is because they have so few subscribers.

 

[Resident A]

Why cant the NFL continue to air games like they currently do, showing local games & the national broadcast.

But offer out of market games on PPV. Say you are a Cowboys fan & live in Maine. You almost never get Cowboys games. You pay $8.95 & get the game on PPV. Everybody wins.

I wont pay the price for full sunday ticket, because I'd never get my money's worth. But If I know I'll be home all Sunday, I'd pay for a game I want to watch vs getting stuck with the crappy game on regular TV.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Why cant the NFL continue to air games like they currently do, showing local games & the national broadcast.But offer out of market games on PPV. Say you are a Cowboys fan & live in Maine. You almost never get Cowboys games. You pay $8.95 & get the game on PPV. Everybody wins.I wont pay the price for full sunday ticket, because I'd never get my money's worth. But If I know I'll be home all Sunday, I'd pay for a game I want to watch vs getting stuck with the crappy game on regular TV.

It's like someone mentioned above - the NFL probably wouldn't have a problem with that, the fans obviously wouldn't have a problem with that, and the cable companies sure as he11 wouldn't have a problem with that, but CBS and Fox (and their many affialiates), who doled out hundreds of millions of dollars each for rights fees, and hope to recoup at least a piece of that investment through ratings/ad revenue, would not appreciate direct competion for eyeballs to the product that they shelled out all that money for.You think the NFL wouldn't LOVE to let Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, etc. carry the Sunday Ticket in addition to Direct TV? Where's the downside to that for the NFL? It's CBS and Fox that don't want Sunday Ticket carried on a medium 80-90% penetrated nationwide. Direct TV is an immaterial entity as far as CBS/Fox are concerned.

 

[-X-]

I'd buy PPV games on two conditions:

No commercials

No announcers

 

[digitalamish]

You think the NFL wouldn't LOVE to let Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, etc. carry the Sunday Ticket in addition to Direct TV? Where's the downside to that for the NFL? It's CBS and Fox that don't want Sunday Ticket carried on a medium 80-90% penetrated nationwide. Direct TV is an immaterial entity as far as CBS/Fox are concerned.

Except that Direct is paying for EXCLUSIVE rights to the Sunday ticket. I'm sure the NFL is just waiting for that contract to expire so they can offer it to other services, but first they needed to get it out there, and Direct ponied up the cash. I used to get the ticket via one of those old big C-Band dishes, until the NFL decided it was too much trouble to support them. I never understood that decision.As for PPV games, I think the NFL is getting increased pressure for this, and that is exactly where the 'flex games' have come in. Too many people were getting frustrated about having to watch a Houston-Arizona game in the home markets when something better might be on. So the league has started looking at the most popular games, and giving them a bigger market. I bet they might not have considered doing this unless it was NBC (or another broadcast network) getting the Sunday night games.

 

[Bri]

It's CBS and Fox that don't want Sunday Ticket carried on a medium 80-90% penetrated nationwide.

that's not true.First no one's saying to let cable offer sunday ticket but instead a per game basis. Second, those networks get more ad $ with more viewers. How much are Superbowl ads again?

 

[Tat]

Because NOBODY would watch Lions games on Thanksgiving.

I had KJ a year or so ago when he got hurt, played Mare this weekend just to have something to watch while cooking.....

 

[Bri]

Because NOBODY would watch Lions games on Thanksgiving.

I had KJ a year or so ago when he got hurt, played Mare this weekend just to have something to watch while cooking.....

Mare's an intriguing player to watch

 

[Rovers]

Let me understand this.... some peolpe WANT to pay to watch the NFL? Eventually, it will go that way, but asking to shell out a few hundred bucks? Are you on drugs, or just so freakin rich you don't care? This is a crazy thread. Fans are their own worst enemy.

 

[Bri]

Let me understand this.... some peolpe WANT to pay to watch the NFL? Eventually, it will go that way, but asking to shell out a few hundred bucks? Are you on drugs, or just so freakin rich you don't care? This is a crazy thread. Fans are their own worst enemy.

additional games than the local team IF they feel so inclined that week. Want to have the option

 

[weisguy0831]

i'm just trying to guage how much you'd be willing to pay per game. i like watching soccer. i like watching european soccer. they've been offering English club matches at $19.95 a pop ... that's insane.

i don't think i'd pay $10 per game for the rights to watch. i know my wife would have a problem with it. and i know at $10 per game, i'd probably only watch the eagles.

at $160, isn't that about what direct tv charges for the sunday ticket?

i just don't see how it would be profitable.

 

[Bri]

i'm just trying to guage how much you'd be willing to pay per game. i like watching soccer. i like watching european soccer. they've been offering English club matches at $19.95 a pop ... that's insane. i don't think i'd pay $10 per game for the rights to watch. i know my wife would have a problem with it. and i know at $10 per game, i'd probably only watch the eagles. at $160, isn't that about what direct tv charges for the sunday ticket?i just don't see how it would be profitable.

I think ticket is ballpark of 300I'd give a coupon for preseason I'd pay 5 bucks for a particular game in the regular season up until week 1010 each for a particular game during weeks 11-17Playoffs all on regular TV? If not I'd pay a bunch moreIf they charged a dollar and added a million viewers, that's a mil. The essentials(broadcast stuff) are already in place and active. I don't think they could regularly add a mil viewers per game but as a total(all games) for a week, yeah maybe. In the TV world, I don't think a mil across the whole country at a time when "nothing else" is on, is so far fetched. HBO does real well with it's HBO on demand(PPV type setup) and that's not available in some markets.ETAYou know what? That's a million TVs not a million fans. I have to rethink the mil

 

[Symbius]

i'm just trying to guage how much you'd be willing to pay per game. i like watching soccer. i like watching european soccer. they've been offering English club matches at $19.95 a pop ... that's insane. i don't think i'd pay $10 per game for the rights to watch. i know my wife would have a problem with it. and i know at $10 per game, i'd probably only watch the eagles. at $160, isn't that about what direct tv charges for the sunday ticket?i just don't see how it would be profitable.

I think ticket is ballpark of 300I'd give a coupon for preseason I'd pay 5 bucks for a particular game in the regular season up until week 1010 each for a particular game during weeks 11-17Playoffs all on regular TV? If not I'd pay a bunch moreIf they charged a dollar and added a million viewers, that's a mil. The essentials(broadcast stuff) are already in place and active. I don't think they could regularly add a mil viewers per game but as a total(all games) for a week, yeah maybe. In the TV world, I don't think a mil across the whole country at a time when "nothing else" is on, is so far fetched. HBO does real well with it's HBO on demand(PPV type setup) and that's not available in some markets.ETAYou know what? That's a million TVs not a million fans. I have to rethink the mil

I'd pay $3.99 for a game that wouldn't normally be shown in my local market that I really wanted to see.Same price as buying a PPV movie and it's about the same amount of entertainment value for the time spent watching it.

 

[nerangers]

I would like to see a compromise...

The NFL ticket is getting too pricy...it would be nice to have another option to see to see your favorite team.

I live in PA, and always feel bad for the Steeler fans in our area since most of the games are not televised (we live on the Eagle Country side of the state).

I would like to see some sort of package where you can buy coverage of all the games of one football team. As a Patriots fan, I would do this to see all of the games here. Maybe something in the $60 to $80 range (preseason and regular season).