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How do you feel about the stock market? Right now. Today. (1 Viewer)

How do you feel about the stock market?

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I am as bullish as a BBC with a horny unsatisfied Asian chick cheating on her limp **** boyfriend.

 
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Short term don't care - probably over priced but more indexers = more pricing in the value of long term tax benefits

Long term bullish - population/growth

 
Hard not to be bearish right now. I suspect the OP was looking for overwhelming bearish sentiment, which of course would be the ultimate buy signal. Amirite? ;)

 
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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BUY BUY BUY!!!

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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As JC would say, "there's always a bull market somewhere."

 
Totally bullish but that's because 70% of my money is sitting and waiting for S&P 1550 or so.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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What do you mean by "market variables"?

 
humpback said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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What do you mean by "market variables"?
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Earnings, P/E ratios of S&P 500, housing market, etc.

 
Loving the opportunity to get in on some of the blue chip and premium names that I missed out on during the last market dips. Will be nice to sure up my portfolio with stuff that I don't need to watch or be ready to trade on a daily basis for once.

 
The market and economy don't always line up. Economy is in fairly good shape, great unemployment numbers, etc.

There is no disputing the government has helped fluff the market over the last 7 years, I wouldn't even entertain the conversation that they haven't. The market needs to learn how to stand on its own feet without the Fed, with rates possibly going up that is certainly a fear. China is an overreaction, they're a country of exporters, so while #### hitting the fan for them is no bueno for most, it isn't earth shattering for us. What it does say that causes alarm is global demand may be falling.

I also think there is some more room to fall, a lot of companies have gotten way ahead of real valuations, even with this so called bloodbath to start the year. Tesla, Netflix, Amazon, FB - tons of companies like them. They're priced for perfection 10 years out, it's pretty ridiculous IMO. I believe in most of aforementioned companies, but cmon, so overpriced! FB is prob the only company is pay a premium for, but holding off for now. A lot of companies have huge gains over this bull market, possible safer yields on the horizon, money could be moving off the table.

I've had a lot of dry on the sidelines and a question I ask myself is what is the next crash going to look like? Obviously impossible to answer, but I'm fairly confident the DJIA never sees 6-7k again, Nasdaq doesn't see 1500, and the S&P won't see under 1000.

OTOH, if you believe in Apple as a company, their price right now is at a great discount. Their P/E is under 10, FB is like 100, NFLX/AMZN don't have one. GOOG is like 30, prob the only other coming besides FB I'd pay a premium for.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
The market and economy don't always line up. Economy is in fairly good shape, great unemployment numbers, etc.

There is no disputing the government has helped fluff the market over the last 7 years, I wouldn't even entertain the conversation that they haven't. The market needs to learn how to stand on its own feet without the Fed, with rates possibly going up that is certainly a fear. China is an overreaction, they're a country of exporters, so while #### hitting the fan for them is no bueno for most, it isn't earth shattering for us. What it does say that causes alarm is global demand may be falling.

I also think there is some more room to fall, a lot of companies have gotten way ahead of real valuations, even with this so called bloodbath to start the year. Tesla, Netflix, Amazon, FB - tons of companies like them. They're priced for perfection 10 years out, it's pretty ridiculous IMO. I believe in most of aforementioned companies, but cmon, so overpriced! FB is prob the only company is pay a premium for, but holding off for now. A lot of companies have huge gains over this bull market, possible safer yields on the horizon, money could be moving off the table.

I've had a lot of dry on the sidelines and a question I ask myself is what is the next crash going to look like? Obviously impossible to answer, but I'm fairly confident the DJIA never sees 6-7k again, Nasdaq doesn't see 1500, and the S&P won't see under 1000.

OTOH, if you believe in Apple as a company, their price right now is at a great discount. Their P/E is under 10, FB is like 100, NFLX/AMZN don't have one. GOOG is like 30, prob the only other coming besides FB I'd pay a premium for.
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That's where I've been dipping in. Any time it goes under 97/96 per share, I grab a few more and I'm pretty happy about the opportunity to do so.

 
eoMMan said:
Like now or long term?

####s ugly now but it just means it's all on sale if you have a long time horizon.
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This is really an issue right now, the "buy the dip" mentality bc everything is on sale, and it is a rampant mentality right now. I've heard this from everyone over the last week, which is what makes me think twice - we've been so conditioned to just buy any dip over the last 7 years. I think everyone has forgotten how bad 2008-2009 were due to euphoria of this bull market. Again, I don't think we'll see anything close to that, but people aren't as wary as they should be IMO.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
biju said:
According to RBS, sell everything for 2016:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/12/investing/markets-sell-everything-cataclysmic-year-rbs/
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Internally, deflation is a huge concern. Again though, China's slowdown should impact us less than it has but that coming along with cratering commodity prices has spooked everyone. Maybe for good reason but I still think U.S. stock fundamentals are strong.
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I see my wife is sending PM's again. Neat.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
humpback said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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What do you mean by "market variables"?
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Earnings, P/E ratios of S&P 500, housing market, etc.
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I guess I'm not seeing how these things are strong. S&P 500 earnings and revenues are declining, P/E ratios aren't super high but they are above historical averages so the market isn't cheap, and the housing market is doing okay but that's with all time low interest rates.

We really need oil to find a bottom in order for things to get better IMO.

 
humpback said:
Doctor Detroit said:
humpback said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Love it, a lot of external pressure guiding the market downward when the overall economy and market variables are relatively strong. Probably see some volatility over the next 18 months but no reason to think we'll see anything like 2008, maybe more like the last 90s. I think there will be some good buy opportunities and for long-term investors this is a dollar-cost-average bonanza.
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What do you mean by "market variables"?
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Earnings, P/E ratios of S&P 500, housing market, etc.
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I guess I'm not seeing how these things are strong. S&P 500 earnings and revenues are declining, P/E ratios aren't super high but they are above historical averages so the market isn't cheap, and the housing market is doing okay but that's with all time low interest rates.We really need oil to find a bottom in order for things to get better IMO.
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Even if oil just stabilizes the markets will feel a little better imo. To me people are selling off highs and just hunkering down and waiting. Iran oil back on the market soon isn't going to help either. Remember when Eveyone was saying we needed to be energy independent so we didn't have to pay $4 a gallon? Seems like 20 years ago.
 
John Bender said:
Loving the opportunity to get in on some of the blue chip and premium names that I missed out on during the last market dips. Will be nice to sure up my portfolio with stuff that I don't need to watch or be ready to trade on a daily basis for once.
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