How do your leagues deal with trades? (1 Viewer)

[lazyike]

Not sure if this is the right forum and I know this has been discussed over the years. Do all owners get to vote on trades or does your commissioner 

have sole approval? Do you believe in approving all trades as long as you don't see any collusion even if  they seem really unbalanced? 

Keeper or dynasty leagues can really make trades appear unfair as you will get owners throwing in the towel on the current season if they don't see 

path to the playoffs. 

 

[Zyphros]

Every trade deserves to be reviewed by the commissioner, but none should be vetoed unless collusion is clear.  

What I've done in the past is ask a friend who runs a different dynasty league (with mostly different people) to review one on occasion if I myself suspect collusion.  I'll let him take a look at rosters, picks, values and so on to make a determination.  Never came out as collusion to this day.  5 year running league.  

 

[Dezbelief]

Commish review in all but one league. The one league that votes are allowed hit a bad spell several years ago in which several fair trades were vetoed since then there's been next to no trading. 

 

[Yenrub]

No real review of any kind

The only thing we look for is trade backs. As long as it isn’t a trade back and both parties agree to the deal it’s done.

 

[ex-ghost]

Commish kind of reviews, never have had a veto of any kind in 17 years.

We also can trade future picks far into the future. Have had 1sts traded as far as 4 years ahead.

 

[Amused to Death]

Salary cap/contract/auction league.  Owners agree to terms and execute the deal on the league website. No voting or commish review period. Sometimes other owners may complain to each other about how one side got hosed but very rarely has the commish questioned those involved.

 

[Fox Scream]

Fair is fair.  After you click accept, it's done.  We speak up if something is too terrible or throws off competitive balance.

Some dynasty owners are so bad, they'll gut a decent team in one season.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

The commish approves the trade automatically so it goes out to the league.  Anyone can veto if they like but it's never happened.  Sure some are unbalanced but people can run their teams however they like.

 

[Cjw_55106]

No reason to ever give other teams the power to veto. 

 

[Bracie Smathers]

We have no veto power in our league.  You should trust the people in your league and if anyone is in collusion, kick them out of your league but you should trust people and give them the power to screw up.  They will learn.

We have a trade deadline that begins right before the playoffs, that is the only restriction we have on trades.

If you structure your playoffs to begin early it allows for more teams to still be gunning to  make the playoffs so you 'should' have few(er) teams out of contention at that time.   

 

[matttyl]

No real review of any kind

The only thing we look for is trade backs. As long as it isn’t a trade back and both parties agree to the deal it’s done.

We had a "trade back" two seasons ago, but after explanation no one really had an issue with it.  We have a week 10 trade deadline, and a team traded a future 1st round rookie pick for CJ Anderson after had had one good game.  He then went on a tear the second half of that season.  During the subsequent offseason, he was traded back to the original team for either the same pick, or a different 1st round rookie pick. 

It was explained, though, that Anderson could have fallen on his face or gotten hurt or otherwise not taken hold of the job and lost value, at which point the original owner would have kept the first round pick and been happy.  The new owner also could have kept Anderson after his great season, but I think felt that Anderson's time was closing (he didn't do nearly as well this past year), so he wanted to sell him while the value was still there.  There were a few months in between the deals, so anything could have happened.  It wasn't a "one or two week" thing. 

 

[Arodin]

There comes a point where tradebacks stop mattering because situations change.  An offseason seems like a good time to reset that, since the likely reason behind the rule is to prevent bye week dodging, lineup stacking vs. favored opponents, etc.  Once there are no games being played, time to move on.

 

[starks]

This is going to sound weird and feel free to light me up but....

Dynasty league with friends: When a trade is accepted, everyone in the league has a chance to get in on it. Whoever is selling/buying gets to hear offers for a 48 hour time period. If agreed upon the trade is struck down and the new trade then has a 48 hour time limit on it. This ensures a couple of things. 1) Nobody can ##### about the trade, if you don't like it either make a better offer or shut up. 2) The seller gets the best deal and the buyers have to part with the most. 

Right before the deadline I saw the DWill owner rake up in a bidding war. It started with a second round pick and after 3 or 4 accepted deals it was eventually a late first, a third plus Demarco Murray. (Sounds steep but DWill carried that team to a crown) It might not be for everyone but as commish it has made it easy on me to let the market dictate trade value.  Sharks can no longer target guppies and while some got frustrated with it at first it has turned out pretty well for the overall health of the league.  

 

[lazyike]

Trying to figure out what is best in our league. We had some trades get vetoed this past year with all owners having to approve trades. In hindsight i wish I had set the league up with commish approval. No one expected collusion ..just thought the trade looked unfair. In keeper leagues you can see some pretty unbalanced looking trades when owners give up for the current season. We can't keep owners drafted in the first 3 rounds in our keeper league so owners unload these for what often time doesn't seem like very much.  

 

[Arodin]

This is going to sound weird and feel free to light me up but....

Dynasty league with friends: When a trade is accepted, everyone in the league has a chance to get in on it. Whoever is selling/buying gets to hear offers for a 48 hour time period. If agreed upon the trade is struck down and the new trade then has a 48 hour time limit on it. This ensures a couple of things. 1) Nobody can ##### about the trade, if you don't like it either make a better offer or shut up. 2) The seller gets the best deal and the buyers have to part with the most. 

Right before the deadline I saw the DWill owner rake up in a bidding war. It started with a second round pick and after 3 or 4 accepted deals it was eventually a late first, a third plus Demarco Murray. (Sounds steep but DWill carried that team to a crown) It might not be for everyone but as commish it has made it easy on me to let the market dictate trade value.  Sharks can no longer target guppies and while some got frustrated with it at first it has turned out pretty well for the overall health of the league.  

I like this in principle, but I think the key is "with friends."  I could easily see some troublemaker bumping deals just to prevent it going through until after a key match against one of the trade partners for instance.  

One side effect of TNF has been to greatly compress the trade window.  I bailed out of every league with trade approval delays of more than 24 hours just because you can't work a deal on Tuesday and count on having it go through before the players start to play on Thursday.  (Especially if owners' schedules don't line up for speedy communication.)  I've taken to favoring "no review/approval" for trades, which comes with its own headaches of a different sort.

Best solution is ALWAYS to play with reliable people you can trust.

 

[thatguy]

Commish review, automatically pushed through unless something smells extremely fishy. In 10+ years I've yet to see such a trade. I can't say how many times I've seen trades that looked like head scratchers at the time,  with league members #####ing and moaning, only to see the obvious "loser" at time of trade winning in a landslide when all was said and done. 

Any trade involving my team is reviewed by 2 co-commissioners,  unless one of the two is my trade partner in which it is reviewed by the other co-commish.

I think playing with friends whom you trust is the key.  True friends won't attempt to cheat their friends, and on the flip side need not question the motivations of their friends. 

 

[bonscott]

I refuse to play in a league with owner votes to veto.  It just never works, people will always vote no on a trade simply because a rival gets stronger, one of the teams voted no on one of their trades or they just don't like a guy.  It's never on the actual merit of the trade.  All this does is lead to infighting and butt hurt.  What fun is that?

Most of the leagues I'm in, including the one I personally commish, is commish approval.  This is basically a rubber stamp to be on the lookout for collusion or something just really, really bad like a kick returner for a Top 3 QB or something.  If I'm involved in the trade then my competition committee (2 owners voted on each year by the league) will review the trade and approve.

But I have a checks and balances system in place.  If I were to veto a trade then either owner can protest my veto.  If that happens then the trade will go up for league vote (minus the two teams and myself) to *overturn* my veto.  This has never happened but if it makes everyone feel good that the commish doesn't go mad with power, so be it.

Most of the dynasty leagues I'm in it's just immediate with no approval, although the commish will reserve the right to review and reverse if collusion is detected.

 

[eNdblu]

This is going to sound weird and feel free to light me up but....

Dynasty league with friends: When a trade is accepted, everyone in the league has a chance to get in on it. Whoever is selling/buying gets to hear offers for a 48 hour time period. If agreed upon the trade is struck down and the new trade then has a 48 hour time limit on it. This ensures a couple of things. 1) Nobody can ##### about the trade, if you don't like it either make a better offer or shut up. 2) The seller gets the best deal and the buyers have to part with the most. 

Right before the deadline I saw the DWill owner rake up in a bidding war. It started with a second round pick and after 3 or 4 accepted deals it was eventually a late first, a third plus Demarco Murray. (Sounds steep but DWill carried that team to a crown) It might not be for everyone but as commish it has made it easy on me to let the market dictate trade value.  Sharks can no longer target guppies and while some got frustrated with it at first it has turned out pretty well for the overall health of the league.  

One of my leagues has something similar.  32 teams, two 16 team conferences.  Owners have a chance to "challenge" if a trade is accepted that they thought was one sided and send what they may feel is a stronger offer by notifying the commish.  The original owner is allowed to up their offer if the team accepts the new offer.  There have been a couple instances where an owner TRIED to offer better, but a challenge deal has yet to be processed.  This league is heading into year 3.

Can't say I'm a huge fan of it.  There have been times where I've wanted to send a better offer than was accepted, but never have in the worry that I'd lose a potential trading partner for sniping their deal.  Also, the period of time between the trade getting accepted and no longer being able to challenged is unsettling.

 

[crowe1130]

In my leagues the only objection that can be raised is collusion.  One-sidedness is no excuse to void a trade.

 

[B Maverick]

No review, once made and accepted commish approves on the site and trade is announced.  Due to FA $ being involved it cant be an auto, commish has to "accept" so it can be processed.  

If anyone in the league objects they can risk a draft pick and call for a veto.  If majority vetos trade its reversed.  If its not vetod the objecting owner looses a draft pick. I think its a 3rd or $2.00 FA $ (start season with $9.00) and if you have neither you can not object.

Basically you better be sure and know that 3/4 of the league agrees if you think its collusion. 

 

[ghostguy123]

In my leagues the only objection that can be raised is collusion.  One-sidedness is no excuse to void a trade.

Julio Jones for a 2017 3rd rounder.

Sorry but there has to be SOME form of oversight on trades when stuff like that happens.  While that may be an extreme example I have seen some that aren't far off. If a league allows stuff like that, the league will fold.  Some leagues are strong with good owners who enjoy the league and would prefer not to let one idiot ruin the league.  Reverse the atrocity, remove the owner, and move on. 

 

[ghostguy123]

And the whole collusion thing is silly.  It's impossible to prove unless both teams either admit to it or you hack their emails and see what they were doing. 

You can suspect it all you want, but it's still all conjecture and circumstantial.  

That is why reversing obscenely bad deals isn't a bad way to go.  You don't need to prove collusion, so rather than proving the impossible you simply reverse the obviously horrid deal.