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How does your league prevent teams tanking to get better draft picks? (1 Viewer)

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Looking like we're going to face this issue this week, as teams out of the playoffs are playing teams who need to win to get in.

 
We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick :goodposting:

 
We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick :goodposting:
interesting
 
Tough situation ...

team in my league last week sat some underperforming "studs" for some marginal players with decent matchups....

I gave him an inquiry WTF phone call on Saturday to warn him that tanking is a harsh offense and will get you booted from the league.

He had a viable reason/excuse to sit the players and based apon injury speculation(Roddy White back) and performance(TO/LJ have been bad) to start Hester vs St Louis and Avery vs Bears and Deuce vs PAckerrs instead.

Thought is was honest enough to not mind the benchings ..... but warned him that TO might explode vs 49ers...and let the roster stay as is since nobady can predict the NFL and think it would be wrong to make him start someone and then watch them get out performed by the person on his bench.

Needless to say once TO wen gonzo on the 49ers half the league was whinning ....

The only thing that saved this from being a disaster is that the team won and scored 3 third highest in the league (Thanks to Pennington)

 
We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick :thumbup:
I can not say I am a fan of this ... It could really hurt a team who fell on hard times or bad luck that is trying to rebuild. The best is to try and make sure that all owners are putting forward an honest effort to win.
 
We had it happen two years ago in our 16 team dynasty. We actually put in a draft lottery for the bottom 5 teams. Just because you have the worst record doesn't secure you the top pick. The team that tanked, actually won the year before and the year after he tanked. Pretty ###### way of doing things...just ask Herm....You PLAY to WIN the GAME.

 
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.

 
This is a tough one. In our league Tanking is frowned on. However we also do not feel you should ever force an owner to start any player. We have had owners tank to get the 1st pick in our keeper draft and guess what, more times then not it comes back to hurt the team instead of help them

I suggest you let league roll free and then let the chips fall where they may. The Football Gods have a way of making things right.

 
4 worst teams compete in loser bowl, loser bowl winner (the guy who lost both matchups) has to pony up another $25-$30.

Problem solved or if not solved at leat they are paying more money for sucking.

Also we do NBA lottery style for draft picks in the following year (I assume you are talking about a keeper or dynasty)

Also $15-20 high week payout

 
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We do something similar to this where the bottom four teams play the final 2 weeks and the winner of that bracket gets the 1st pick and the loser of the consolation game gets his team named by the league next year. Last years loser
 
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We do something similar to this where the bottom four teams play the final 2 weeks and the winner of that bracket gets the 1st pick and the loser of the consolation game gets his team named by the league next year. Last years loser
We send 6 teams to the playoffs then have a Toilet Bowl in which the bottom four teams compete weeks 14 and 15 with the winner getting first pick in next years draft, etc. We used to rename the "last place" team but have since done away with it as we've determined that finishing last is enough humiliation.
 
We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick :lmao:
I am in a 12 team league and this is exactly what we do, except 6 teams make the playoffs. So, the draft order goest 7th-12th, and then 6th-1st.
 
We have a $20 payout for team of the week, even if you are on pace to miss the playoffs you could still score $20. We also do an NBA style lottery draft. The only advantage of last is more balls in the hat, but finnishing last also costs you an extra $15 the next year $10 for second last and $5 for third last. You are also stuck with getting blasted on from your buddy's for being the worst fantasy player in the league.

 
This used to happen in our league, we changed it so the top 4 teams get the bottom 4 draft picks (Superbowl winner last, etc...) but ALL the non-playoff teams are in a lottery so the guy who finishes 5th has just as much a chance at 1.01 as the last place team. This has worked well (although this year, the guy who was 5th last year and just missed the playoffs with a good team did get 1.01, so his team in this 5-keeper league looked awesome, but due to injuries he's now in 6th place).

Worked well for us.

 
dpuncher said:
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We do this as well. It has been a great additon to our yearly keeper league.a) It prevents team from tanking/not paying attention.b) It keeps every involved in the league.I highly recommend this.
 
Chief said:
simply do not make your draft position dependent on order of finish.
Or more specifically, don't make it dependent on RECORD.For teams who don't make the playoffs, you could set your draft order by worst potential points, the points the teams would have scored with their best possible lineup in. Though teams could do something like carry backup TEs instead of backup QBs, there's no reason for teams to not start their best lineup. If they start dropping their best players to waivers to pick up scrubs, or cutting all decent backups for 3rd string TEs, it will be so much more obvious that they are tanking, and then you can just step in and do something, level a punishment like last draft pick, or kick them out and replace the with someone who will try to win their games.
 
I have been trying to win for 12 damn weeks. I have the 3rd highest points and 3rd worst record. If I want to lose one more game to have a better shot next year what is the problem with that? And since I did not make the playoffs why should I care who gets in? Perhaps they should not be depending on a team with a losing record to finally win a game just so they can get in. And nobody said anything about the team that sold the farm 4 weeks ago to set himself up for next years draft why say anything now?

:blackdot:

 
In addition to a weekly $20 prize for the high scorer. The bottom 3 team pay an additional fee. Last place pays $100 next to last $50 and 2nd next to last $25. No one has ever intentionally tanked in this league.

 
Our keeper league draft order is reverse order of final season standings, EXCEPT bottom 4 teams.

Bottom 4 order is determined by lottery, where last place gets 1 chance at 1st pick, 2nd last get 2 chances, 3rd last gets 3 chances, 4th last gets 4 chances.

 
dpuncher said:
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We also do something like this except the winner of the toilet bowl gets a cash payout rather than first pick. I don't like the idea of teams competing for the top pick. It makes it too hard for a really bad team to rebuild. The last place team in our league has 2 wins. He'll probably be the first team eliminated from the toilet bowl playoffs and would end up with the 5th or 6th pick in the draft. IMO the team in last place at the end of the regular season should get the #1 pick.
 
Looking like we're going to face this issue this week, as teams out of the playoffs are playing teams who need to win to get in.
We put in place multiple preventative measures to keep teams from tanking or going AWOL over the final stretch of the season. 12 team league, two division winners get bye weeks, we do a best of two-week playoff series to prevent a lucky team from taking it all. And then have an 11 weekr regular fantasy season.1- So the first restraint we have in place is that after 11 games, rarely does more than one or two teams fall out of playoff contention that early only after 11 weeks. 2- We have a weekly high point prize for the first 11 weeks that is open to all teams so every week, teams are playing for something.3- We have a playoff payout and a non-playoff team elimnation series that has a cash payout.4- Finally the non-playoff teams vye for an extra first round draft pick that is awarded at the end of the first round.So the first component of only having an 11 week regular season helps a great deal because everyone is competing like mad for at least the first 8 weeks of the season. Then teams are rarely out of post season contention with three weeks to go. This year we had 11 of 12 teams with a playoff slot on the line in the last game and the one team who was out of it had already traded their first round pick and won their game so we have a few good measures in place to keep all teams competing on a weekly basis all the way thru the very last game since the draft order is set based on final regular standings/points with the champ always picking 12th and the bonus first round pick picking 13th.
 
dpuncher said:
We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
Same here - 12 Team Keeper League with 4 team playoff for Championship Crown.We have a "Toilet Bowl" for 2 rounds with the 8 non-Champion Teams.

Higher Seed faces lowest seed in each round of playoffs.

Winners play H2H next round where the highest scoring winner get the 1.01 Draft Pick!

Next Highest Scoring Winner gets the 1.02 pick and so on....

Taken from our By Laws

13. Toilet Bowl Playoffs: The remaining 8 teams will battle for the Toilet Bowl Crown over NFL Week 15 & 16. Ties will be used per the Tie-Breaker listed above.

Seed #5 battles Seed #12

Seed #6 battles Seed #11

Seed #7 battles Seed #10

Seed #8 battles Seed #9

Higher Seed faces lowest seed in next round of playoffs.

Draft position for Teams who lose in the first round of playoffs will be determined by Point Scored for that week. Higher Score earns a better draft pick.

Example of Toilet Bowl Breakdown:

Team A (Seed #5) defeats Team W (Seed #12) 131 - 112

Team B (Seed #6) defeats Team X (Seed #11) 142 - 126

Team Y (Seed #10) defeats Team C (Seed #7) 101 - 88

Team Z (Seed #8) defeats Team D (Seed #9) 125 - 123

This example would result in Teams A, B, & Z continuing while Teams W, X, C & D out of the playoffs

For the Final Round of the Toilet Bowl, Highest Score from the Winning H2H matchups earn the better Draft Slot.

Example:

Team Y (Seed #10) defeats Team A (Seed #5) 131 - 112

Team B (Seed #6) defeats Team Z (Seed #8) 142 - 126

Team B (Seed #6) earns draft slot #1

Team Y (Seed #10) earns draft slot #2

Team Z (Seed #8) earns draft slot #3

Team A (Seed #5) earns draft slot #4

Team X (Seed #11) earns draft slot #5

Team D (Seed #9) earns draft slot #6

Team W (Seed #12) earns draft slot #7

Team C (Seed #7) earns draft slot #8

This format will encourage competitiveness throughout the season.
 
We also do something like this except the winner of the toilet bowl gets a cash payout rather than first pick. I don't like the idea of teams competing for the top pick. It makes it too hard for a really bad team to rebuild. The last place team in our league has 2 wins. He'll probably be the first team eliminated from the toilet bowl playoffs and would end up with the 5th or 6th pick in the draft. IMO the team in last place at the end of the regular season should get the #1 pick.
This is not an issue in our league.#12 Seed team from 2006 took the Toilet Bowl and then took the title last year (as a 9-5 Wild Card playoff Team). I was #8 Seed last year and won the Toilet Bowl. I am currently 9-3 this season.
 
We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick :thumbup:
Excellent idea, I think I will suggest this for next year!
 
we've always awarded 3% of our total prize money to the high-scorer each week. although it wasn't originally created with the "tanking" concept in mind (it was really just a way to spread out the prize money so everyone has a chance to win something throughout the year) it does encourage an owner to put his best team on the field every week.

 

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