interestingWe've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick
I can not say I am a fan of this ... It could really hurt a team who fell on hard times or bad luck that is trying to rebuild. The best is to try and make sure that all owners are putting forward an honest effort to win.We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick
We do something similar to this where the bottom four teams play the final 2 weeks and the winner of that bracket gets the 1st pick and the loser of the consolation game gets his team named by the league next year. Last years loserWe have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We send 6 teams to the playoffs then have a Toilet Bowl in which the bottom four teams compete weeks 14 and 15 with the winner getting first pick in next years draft, etc. We used to rename the "last place" team but have since done away with it as we've determined that finishing last is enough humiliation.We do something similar to this where the bottom four teams play the final 2 weeks and the winner of that bracket gets the 1st pick and the loser of the consolation game gets his team named by the league next year. Last years loserWe have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
I am in a 12 team league and this is exactly what we do, except 6 teams make the playoffs. So, the draft order goest 7th-12th, and then 6th-1st.We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick
We do this as well. It has been a great additon to our yearly keeper league.a) It prevents team from tanking/not paying attention.b) It keeps every involved in the league.I highly recommend this.dpuncher said:We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
Or more specifically, don't make it dependent on RECORD.For teams who don't make the playoffs, you could set your draft order by worst potential points, the points the teams would have scored with their best possible lineup in. Though teams could do something like carry backup TEs instead of backup QBs, there's no reason for teams to not start their best lineup. If they start dropping their best players to waivers to pick up scrubs, or cutting all decent backups for 3rd string TEs, it will be so much more obvious that they are tanking, and then you can just step in and do something, level a punishment like last draft pick, or kick them out and replace the with someone who will try to win their games.Chief said:simply do not make your draft position dependent on order of finish.
We also do something like this except the winner of the toilet bowl gets a cash payout rather than first pick. I don't like the idea of teams competing for the top pick. It makes it too hard for a really bad team to rebuild. The last place team in our league has 2 wins. He'll probably be the first team eliminated from the toilet bowl playoffs and would end up with the 5th or 6th pick in the draft. IMO the team in last place at the end of the regular season should get the #1 pick.dpuncher said:We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
We put in place multiple preventative measures to keep teams from tanking or going AWOL over the final stretch of the season. 12 team league, two division winners get bye weeks, we do a best of two-week playoff series to prevent a lucky team from taking it all. And then have an 11 weekr regular fantasy season.1- So the first restraint we have in place is that after 11 games, rarely does more than one or two teams fall out of playoff contention that early only after 11 weeks. 2- We have a weekly high point prize for the first 11 weeks that is open to all teams so every week, teams are playing for something.3- We have a playoff payout and a non-playoff team elimnation series that has a cash payout.4- Finally the non-playoff teams vye for an extra first round draft pick that is awarded at the end of the first round.So the first component of only having an 11 week regular season helps a great deal because everyone is competing like mad for at least the first 8 weeks of the season. Then teams are rarely out of post season contention with three weeks to go. This year we had 11 of 12 teams with a playoff slot on the line in the last game and the one team who was out of it had already traded their first round pick and won their game so we have a few good measures in place to keep all teams competing on a weekly basis all the way thru the very last game since the draft order is set based on final regular standings/points with the champ always picking 12th and the bonus first round pick picking 13th.Looking like we're going to face this issue this week, as teams out of the playoffs are playing teams who need to win to get in.
Same here - 12 Team Keeper League with 4 team playoff for Championship Crown.We have a "Toilet Bowl" for 2 rounds with the 8 non-Champion Teams.dpuncher said:We have a tiolet bowl where the commish has the non playoff team who have their own playoff and the winner gets the first pic, second the next pic etc. This keeps teams involved and trying the entire season. The commish calculates the the loser bowl manually.
13. Toilet Bowl Playoffs: The remaining 8 teams will battle for the Toilet Bowl Crown over NFL Week 15 & 16. Ties will be used per the Tie-Breaker listed above.
Seed #5 battles Seed #12
Seed #6 battles Seed #11
Seed #7 battles Seed #10
Seed #8 battles Seed #9
Higher Seed faces lowest seed in next round of playoffs.
Draft position for Teams who lose in the first round of playoffs will be determined by Point Scored for that week. Higher Score earns a better draft pick.
Example of Toilet Bowl Breakdown:
Team A (Seed #5) defeats Team W (Seed #12) 131 - 112
Team B (Seed #6) defeats Team X (Seed #11) 142 - 126
Team Y (Seed #10) defeats Team C (Seed #7) 101 - 88
Team Z (Seed #8) defeats Team D (Seed #9) 125 - 123
This example would result in Teams A, B, & Z continuing while Teams W, X, C & D out of the playoffs
For the Final Round of the Toilet Bowl, Highest Score from the Winning H2H matchups earn the better Draft Slot.
Example:
Team Y (Seed #10) defeats Team A (Seed #5) 131 - 112
Team B (Seed #6) defeats Team Z (Seed #8) 142 - 126
Team B (Seed #6) earns draft slot #1
Team Y (Seed #10) earns draft slot #2
Team Z (Seed #8) earns draft slot #3
Team A (Seed #5) earns draft slot #4
Team X (Seed #11) earns draft slot #5
Team D (Seed #9) earns draft slot #6
Team W (Seed #12) earns draft slot #7
Team C (Seed #7) earns draft slot #8
This format will encourage competitiveness throughout the season.
This is not an issue in our league.#12 Seed team from 2006 took the Toilet Bowl and then took the title last year (as a 9-5 Wild Card playoff Team). I was #8 Seed last year and won the Toilet Bowl. I am currently 9-3 this season.We also do something like this except the winner of the toilet bowl gets a cash payout rather than first pick. I don't like the idea of teams competing for the top pick. It makes it too hard for a really bad team to rebuild. The last place team in our league has 2 wins. He'll probably be the first team eliminated from the toilet bowl playoffs and would end up with the 5th or 6th pick in the draft. IMO the team in last place at the end of the regular season should get the #1 pick.
Excellent idea, I think I will suggest this for next year!We've seen this in my keeper league too, where the top 8 make the playoffs in a 12 team league. We are thinking about inverting the order so that 9th place gets the first pick, 10th place gets second, 11th gets third, and last place gets fourth. Then we'd start back with 8th getting fifth all the way down to first place getting the last pick