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How fast would a pitcher need to throw in the majors to be utterly dom (1 Viewer)

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Let's assume he has great control but no curveball.

he has 1 pitch and it is the fastest ever clocked in the world.

Let's assume his catcher can catch his pitches easily.

How fast would he have to pitch to end up with let's say something like

38 games

31-0

280 IP

509 Ks

0.67 Era

Fastest pitch ever recorded was 105mph by Chapman in 2010.

Would 109 do it? 115? 130? 179?

 
Is it really the speed of the pitch? I would think even at 125mph if you couldn't vary your speed or throw some sort of breaking ball, you'd get slaughtered as a starter after one round through the league.

 
I would think Randy Johnson + 10-15MPH. 110-115MPH if you're a 6'10" lefty.

Edited - that's with his curveball. If just fastball, bump at least 10MPH.

 
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Batters in the bigs would be able to pound any fastball if they are able to acclimate to it's speed enough. Also, you're assuming he'll throw shutouts or 1, 2 run games? A team will get shutout to even the crappiest pitchers somedays.

Not gonna happen in today's game. Nobody's even won 27 since 1990. I think 30 is out of reach based on the 5 man rotation teams carry now, some even stretching it to 6.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Batters in the bigs would be able to pound any fastball if they are able to acclimate to it's speed enough. Also, you're assuming he'll throw shutouts or 1, 2 run games? A team will get shutout to even the crappiest pitchers somedays.

Not gonna happen in today's game. Nobody's even won 27 since 1990. I think 30 is out of reach based on the 5 man rotation teams carry now, some even stretching it to 6.
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IDK I think at some point hitters just can't catch up to it even when they know what's coming. Chapman throws like 80% fastballs and guys just can't hit it. Add 10-15 mph to what he throws and I don't think anyone would have a chance.

 
Judge Smails said:
I would think Randy Johnson + 10-15MPH. 110-115MPH if you're a 6'10" lefty.

Edited - that's with his curveball. If just fastball, bump at least 10MPH.
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Johnson had control problems early in his career - led the league 3 times in walks. When his control got better, he became great. Ryan also had control problems. If a fastball pitcher has great control and can paint the corners, maybe 105 is enough. Location, location, location.

If the pitcher has both control and movement on his fastball, then 100 might be enough.

 
sports_fan said:
ShamrockPride said:
Batters in the bigs would be able to pound any fastball if they are able to acclimate to it's speed enough. Also, you're assuming he'll throw shutouts or 1, 2 run games? A team will get shutout to even the crappiest pitchers somedays.

Not gonna happen in today's game. Nobody's even won 27 since 1990. I think 30 is out of reach based on the 5 man rotation teams carry now, some even stretching it to 6.
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IDK I think at some point hitters just can't catch up to it even when they know what's coming. Chapman throws like 80% fastballs and guys just can't hit it. Add 10-15 mph to what he throws and I don't think anyone would have a chance.
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I agree with this, but as Eephus noted, it would be physically impossible to do that for that many innings.

OP didn't say anything about movement on the fastball, but this was basically Mariano Rivera, for just 1 inning at a time (occasionally a little more).

 
If a catcher could catch it easily, then a hitter would be able to hit. Fastballs are relatively easy to hit if you know they are coming. You'd just have hitters with the bat down taking super small strokes. Bunch of singles.

ETA: Yeah, I guess I said what ShamrockPride said.

 
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Gator Shawn said:
Is it really the speed of the pitch? I would think even at 125mph if you couldn't vary your speed or throw some sort of breaking ball, you'd get slaughtered as a starter after one round through the league.
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No way. There is a huge difference between a guy throwing 92 and a guy throwing 100. The change of pace can fool them, but even if a hitter is waiting for 100 mph fastball, he has a hard time getting around on it. I doubt even if a major league player could get around on a 125 mph pitch. He would have to start his swing as the pitcher releases the ball and hope he guessed on the approximate location.

 
At what speed would the batter need to begin his swing before the pitcher releases the ball? That would be my answer. At that speed, the hitter is left to completely guess at the location of the pitch with only the minimal amount of time to even think about adjusting.

 
hitting is all timing. no hitter would ever get used to hitting a 110+ fastball since they would only face it a few times a year. Also fastballs have movement, they aren't just straight.

110-115 fastball and a guy would basically be almost impossible to hit.

 
jon_mx said:
Gator Shawn said:
Is it really the speed of the pitch? I would think even at 125mph if you couldn't vary your speed or throw some sort of breaking ball, you'd get slaughtered as a starter after one round through the league.
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No way. There is a huge difference between a guy throwing 92 and a guy throwing 100. The change of pace can fool them, but even if a hitter is waiting for 100 mph fastball, he has a hard time getting around on it. I doubt even if a major league player could get around on a 125 mph pitch. He would have to start his swing as the pitcher releases the ball and hope he guessed on the approximate location.
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Exactly, although the idea from Eomman about the catcher being able to realistically catch it is interesting.

 
I know but if you can put one low on the black then come up high and change the eye level all while putting the ball where you want you can do real well. I am also assuming you have movement on the pitch.

That being said they know you only have one pitch so they are always ready for it

 
sports_fan said:
ShamrockPride said:
Batters in the bigs would be able to pound any fastball if they are able to acclimate to it's speed enough. Also, you're assuming he'll throw shutouts or 1, 2 run games? A team will get shutout to even the crappiest pitchers somedays.

Not gonna happen in today's game. Nobody's even won 27 since 1990. I think 30 is out of reach based on the 5 man rotation teams carry now, some even stretching it to 6.
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IDK I think at some point hitters just can't catch up to it even when they know what's coming. Chapman throws like 80% fastballs and guys just can't hit it. Add 10-15 mph to what he throws and I don't think anyone would have a chance.
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They can't hit it because they don't get to see him a second or third time. Plus, it's that 20% chance he throws you something else on 1-2 when he has a pitch to give that makes it harder. If you know the guy is only throwing heat and you see him in the 4th or 7th inning, major league hitters are going to tee off.

 
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.

 
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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What is the average mpg on a fastball?

 
sports_fan said:
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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What is the average mpg on a fastball?
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88-93
 
sports_fan said:
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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What is the average mpg on a fastball?
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Hehe, sorry, been doing a lot of car shopping in the last two weeks. MPG on the brain.

 
It's a robot catcher with beyond human reflexes and the pitcher has a bionic arm that will never wear or get injured.

FFS people, it's hypothetical, play along.

 
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I was a catcher and played with a guy my entire childhood, t-ball until college. He threw 104 consistently. He got tired of the expectations. Full ride to Auburn , he turned it down and now does graphics for Sony.

 
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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no ####### way. if a guy threw a 150mph fastball he would never be adjusted to. the batter would have to swing before they ever had a chance to know where the pitch was going.

a 150 mph fastball pitcher would almost never give up a hit no matter how hitters prepared.

 
If every pitch was the same MPH (which it wouldnt be cause anyone can learn a changeup), it would have to be very fast, like 115-120.

If he could paint the corners just a little with that, he would be a Cy Young candidate easily.

............on a side note, if EVERY pitcher threw that fast and could only throw fastballs, hitters would be able to adjust and do a lot better.

 
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Yeah I'd agree that 110-115 would be near-unhittable. You have to keep in mind that anything faster and even the catcher can't track it and catch it!

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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no ####### way. if a guy threw a 150mph fastball he would never be adjusted to. the batter would have to swing before they ever had a chance to know where the pitch was going.

a 150 mph fastball pitcher would almost never give up a hit no matter how hitters prepared.
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Yeah, I guess that is true.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Gator Shawn said:
What makes great pitchers great is not just velocity, but accuracy and the ability to drop a 95 mpg fastball, or an 83 mph slider or a 78 mph change and to you in the milliseconds you have to decide to swing it all looks like the same pitch. If you can't do that, the best you can hope for is a closing or short relief job. I think a guy throwing nothing but fastballs at 150mph would probably be a pretty dominant closer for a couple seasons, but it would catch up with him.
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no ####### way. if a guy threw a 150mph fastball he would never be adjusted to. the batter would have to swing before they ever had a chance to know where the pitch was going.

a 150 mph fastball pitcher would almost never give up a hit no matter how hitters prepared.
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I think you're right... but a 140 mph tennis serve can be handled... why not a 140 mph pitch?

I guess in tennis the ball does bounce once and the player hits it off the bounce, at which point it has lost some momentum... and you are hitting it with a much bigger weapon... but the strike zone is also a lot larger

 
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