How has Chad Johnson looked so far? (1 Viewer)

[UFO]

I fortunately have not seen any games, his stats have been awful as everyones on the team has. My question is have any homers watched him. Does he seem hindered by the shoulder? Has he been tentative at all to go after balls?

Has been through 2 tough games and have not heard that the shoulder flared up which tells me he might be able to play all season. I think the bengals will get better offensively as well so he may be a good buy low if the shoulder looks OK.

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

 

[trader jake]

I'd also like to hear some input into his play so far and what ails the Bengals offense in general.

 

[W1cked]

I haven't seen any Bengals games but heard someone comment that he looked like a guy playing WR with one arm. It might of been someone on NFL Network that made the comment

 

[SCT]

I haven't seen any Bengals games buy heard someone comment that he look like a guy playing WR with one arm. It might of been someone on NFL Network that made the comment

That was not what he physically looked like it was a statement of opinion (exaggerated).What ails him is a lot more than his shoulder (QB, coach, OL)

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The offensive line is poor and Carson Palmer is already dinged up.

I'm throwing out last game, if you saw the game or highlights of the game, it was EXTREMELY windy. High winds will hurt a passing game more than rain or slop.

The problem is even if you throw that game out, they didn't do well in the passing game versus Baltimore. Baltimore didn't play this past weekend, so you can't really evaluate how good Baltimore's defense is. My guess is they are above average but not elite.

I'm giving Johnson and Housh another week. I saw the wind and knew right away that passing numbers were going to be lower than normal. I'm even going to throw out a couple low ball offers for Housh this week after seeing the conditions of last week.

 

[gman8343]

The offensive line is poor and Carson Palmer is already dinged up. I'm throwing out last game, if you saw the game or highlights of the game, it was EXTREMELY windy. High winds will hurt a passing game more than rain or slop.The problem is even if you throw that game out, they didn't do well in the passing game versus Baltimore. Baltimore didn't play this past weekend, so you can't really evaluate how good Baltimore's defense is. My guess is they are above average but not elite.I'm giving Johnson and Housh another week. I saw the wind and knew right away that passing numbers were going to be lower than normal. I'm even going to throw out a couple low ball offers for Housh this week after seeing the conditions of last week.

I saw the wind and that's the first thing I thought. The second thing I thought was "How could Justin Gage outproduce any Bengals WR in that same wind?"

 

[jbz]

I unfortunately watched that whole game. It was crazy windy. That being said, if you didn't know Ocho injured his shoulder, you would never have known it. Palmer was all over the place with the ball and Ocho stretched out and reached for passes with the injured arm. There wasn't a lot of completions to base it on, but he didn't seem to favor it at all. Of course one good hit to it changes all of that.

Regarding why Gage could outperform Ocho and TJ, well the Titans D probably had something to do with it. Put Gage on the Bengals in that game and I'm sure he's his normal 3 for 30 yard self as well.

 

[red stripe]

Any comments on the OLine for the Bengals, I saw they only gave up one sack so on the outside that's reason for optimism amirite?

 

[jbz]

They didn't look THAT bad. Considering what Tenn did to Jax I was expecting palmer to be taken off on a stretcher. He was definitely pressured, but nothing out of the ordinary (for the bengals). Carson had time, his accuracy was just way off. He laid out his TE, he missed open guys. Not sure how much the wind played in to that, but I'm sure it had to a little.

 

[TaxMan]

The offensive line is poor and Carson Palmer is already dinged up. I'm throwing out last game, if you saw the game or highlights of the game, it was EXTREMELY windy. High winds will hurt a passing game more than rain or slop.The problem is even if you throw that game out, they didn't do well in the passing game versus Baltimore. Baltimore didn't play this past weekend, so you can't really evaluate how good Baltimore's defense is. My guess is they are above average but not elite.I'm giving Johnson and Housh another week. I saw the wind and knew right away that passing numbers were going to be lower than normal. I'm even going to throw out a couple low ball offers for Housh this week after seeing the conditions of last week.

I saw the wind and that's the first thing I thought. The second thing I thought was "How could Justin Gage outproduce any Bengals WR in that same wind?"

any WRs any given Sunday can outproduce any WRs. With that said, Bengals right now are just a mess, starting with the OL, and that pressure is getting into Palmer's head, might be affecting his mechanics maybe? With the Bengals a 13.5 pt underdog at the Giants, i think the bottom has fallen, and I believe (maybe hope) that this week will be turning point. If not, time to bench ALL the Bengals.

 

[Johnny Ice]

If Palmer and Housh were lighting it up and Chad was putting up 30 yds receiving both games I could understand the concern. Right now this entire offense isn't clicking and until Palmer actually throws a couple of TD passes we can't know if Ocho Cinco's shoulder is hindering his performance or not.

 

[jbz]

yes. I actually believe Palmer is the main problem. I saw Ocho and Housh running open with missed throws. Also it seemed that Palmer adjusted his game plan and really didnt look for the longer passes. His accuracy wasn't there and wasn't really there vs Baltimore either. Giants aren't the team you want break out of a funk with either.

I will say this. If you do have even a hint of belief in the Bengals O, either this week or next week will be the best time to buy. It doesn't get much lower then this and you'll probably have to give up scraps to get them at this point. Seems worth it to me to find out.

 

[UFO]

Guess what I was asking was has he taken any hard shots? Has he made any diving catches or attempts landing on his bad wing? Surely he must have been hit a few times. Just looking to see if he was able to bounce right back after being hit or if he was favoring the shoulder at all.

I agree this is the buy low period if you believe they can turn things around. Knowing that he has taken hits without any problems makes CJ that much more attractive to the buy low crowd.

 

[BigRed]

Offhand I think I'd rather have TJ. Even in "good years" CJ has been erratic and what w/the shoulder and all - if (I say if) Cincy O somehow rebounds at least somewhat this year, I think TJ will be the better or at least safer play. I wouldn't offer much, but someone in smaller leagues may try desperaately cut one to grab someone else...

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Chad owner with the Sunday ticket so I have watched a good portion of the first two games. My main focus watching the games were how Chad looked with his injury. I can honestly say I would have never know he was injured. He has laid out for a few balls and made a big tackle week one on McCallister (I believe) after a Palmer int. He has not shown to favor his Shoulder. Week 1 he only had 4 targets. Palmer is the problem, he has looked lost.

HTH

 

[None_More_Black]

Chad owner with the Sunday ticket so I have watched a good portion of the first two games. My main focus watching the games were how Chad looked with his injury. I can honestly say I would have never know he was injured. He has laid out for a few balls and made a big tackle week one on McCallister (I believe) after a Palmer int. He has not shown to favor his Shoulder. Week 1 he only had 4 targets. Palmer is the problem, he has looked lost.HTH

Good post. I think we should start asking why Palmer's play is so terrible. He was the #5 qb last year. The line is not the entire problem.

 

[W1cked]

Chad Johnson > Chad Ocho Cinco

 

[Rushmore]

Chad owner with the Sunday ticket so I have watched a good portion of the first two games. My main focus watching the games were how Chad looked with his injury. I can honestly say I would have never know he was injured. He has laid out for a few balls and made a big tackle week one on McCallister (I believe) after a Palmer int. He has not shown to favor his Shoulder. Week 1 he only had 4 targets. Palmer is the problem, he has looked lost.HTH

Nice post. I have Sunday Ticket mostly to watch Bengals games and am sadly noticing the same. Palmer seems to be playing tentatively and scarred. His running game and line aren't giving him as much to work with, but there seems to be issues upstairs too (and I'm not just talking about Mike Brown....don't get me started there ).

 

[Gadfly]

Chad owner with the Sunday ticket so I have watched a good portion of the first two games. My main focus watching the games were how Chad looked with his injury. I can honestly say I would have never know he was injured. He has laid out for a few balls and made a big tackle week one on McCallister (I believe) after a Palmer int. He has not shown to favor his Shoulder. Week 1 he only had 4 targets. Palmer is the problem, he has looked lost.HTH

Nice post. I have Sunday Ticket mostly to watch Bengals games and am sadly noticing the same. Palmer seems to be playing tentatively and scarred. His running game and line isn't giving him as much to work with, but there seems to be issues upstairs too (and I'm not just talking about Mike Brown....don't get me started there ).

Well, if you had major knee surgery then you would be playing scarred too.

 

[Rushmore]

Chad owner with the Sunday ticket so I have watched a good portion of the first two games. My main focus watching the games were how Chad looked with his injury. I can honestly say I would have never know he was injured. He has laid out for a few balls and made a big tackle week one on McCallister (I believe) after a Palmer int. He has not shown to favor his Shoulder. Week 1 he only had 4 targets. Palmer is the problem, he has looked lost.HTH

Nice post. I have Sunday Ticket mostly to watch Bengals games and am sadly noticing the same. Palmer seems to be playing tentatively and scarred. His running game and line isn't giving him as much to work with, but there seems to be issues upstairs too (and I'm not just talking about Mike Brown....don't get me started there ).

Well, if you had major knee surgery then you would be playing scarred too.

Mrs. Palmer listening to Tammy Wynett again.

 

[Bri]

Titans CB Cortland Finnegan didn't notice any difference or just a negligible one.

 

[notdarkyet]

Hard to say with as few balls that are being thrown his way. (Or anywhere for that matter). Seemed fine running routes and catching in warmups Sunday, but it doesnt much matter if the line doesnt give him enough time to run the routes.

Someone mentioned the line wasnt the only problem, and I would agree. I think they are running too many deep drops and the pocket doesnt really form, and Carson gets caught. Seems to have happy feet too, as though he is playing scared.

Then there is the playcalling. Brat is so predictable everyone that follows football knows what is coming. If I can call out the plays successfully ~70% of the time, the other team is rarely missing.

Bottom line, this team is a wreck.