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How many offensive players from the same team is to many (1 Viewer)
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Khy
Footballguy
Yes, absolutely. Mainly because you can't possibly feel comfortable starting all three of them week to week. My opinion tends to be two guys from the same team is to many. If you have RG3, Garcon and Morris all starting and they lose a game 21-6... you lost that week. There's no chance you won it.
1 Player from a single team is the best
2 Players from a single team isn't good but acceptable
3 Players from a single team is awful and unacceptable
Last season I had RG3 and Morris on the same team and I was uncomfortable starting both of them in a giving week. Luckily Morris was my last round upside flier last year and my other backs were Foster, Lynch and TRich so I almost never had to start him except in bye weeks. Still though, I was never super comfortable with it. This year I have a similar situation where I have Ridley and Kenbrell Thompkins... Thompkins being a last round flier who isn't a starter and Ridley being a 3rd round pick. I also have Graham and Colston but I also view Graham and Colston but I feel comfortable with both of them as starters as that offense will be putting up tons of points every game through the air as they have one of the worst defenses in NFL history. It's not insane for both of them to post 1000+ yards 10+ TDs... in fact it's roughly their projections.
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
there is no limit depending on the team.
back in the St Louis days i had Warner, Faulk, Bruce, Holt, and their kicker all on one team and steamrolled to the title.
Pick the best player when your pick is up, who cares what team they are on.
back in the St Louis days i had Warner, Faulk, Bruce, Holt, and their kicker all on one team and steamrolled to the title.
Pick the best player when your pick is up, who cares what team they are on.
People worry way too much about this.
For example, the guy who says that because the team in question isn't an "offensive juggernaut", it's a bad t hing. No. That's not the right way to evaluate.
Look at each player as their own entity. Because they are.
FBG did an article on this awhile ago, looking at two players from the same team. The end result is it doesn't matter, but in their sampling two players from the same team (other than QB + WR) were actually a tiny bit MORE consistent than two otherwise equal players from different teams.
Personally I don't like having more than 2 starters from the same team, but I don't know if that's really a legitimate concern or not.
There is nothing wrong with having two players from the same team
For example, the guy who says that because the team in question isn't an "offensive juggernaut", it's a bad t hing. No. That's not the right way to evaluate.
Look at each player as their own entity. Because they are.
FBG did an article on this awhile ago, looking at two players from the same team. The end result is it doesn't matter, but in their sampling two players from the same team (other than QB + WR) were actually a tiny bit MORE consistent than two otherwise equal players from different teams.
Personally I don't like having more than 2 starters from the same team, but I don't know if that's really a legitimate concern or not.
There is nothing wrong with having two players from the same team
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Here's a quick example I typed for a different board when I was getting flak for having Thomas and Welker on the same team (this season)
Using last season, standard FBG scoring:
Thomas' lowest scoring weeks were: (standard scoring)
Week 3: 3.4
Week 9: 7.7
Week 15: 1.3
In those three weeks Decker scored:
Week 3: 13.6
Week 9: 21.9
Week 15: 19.3
Decker's lowest scoring weeks were:
Week 1: 5.4
Week 2: 5.3
Week 10: 1.5
Week 13: 1.7
In those three weeks Thomas scored:
Week 1: 17.0
Week 2: 13.8
Week 10: 13.5
Week 13: 21.9
Using last season, standard FBG scoring:
Thomas' lowest scoring weeks were: (standard scoring)
Week 3: 3.4
Week 9: 7.7
Week 15: 1.3
In those three weeks Decker scored:
Week 3: 13.6
Week 9: 21.9
Week 15: 19.3
Decker's lowest scoring weeks were:
Week 1: 5.4
Week 2: 5.3
Week 10: 1.5
Week 13: 1.7
In those three weeks Thomas scored:
Week 1: 17.0
Week 2: 13.8
Week 10: 13.5
Week 13: 21.9
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
In the past, I've started Favre and Sharpe to a championship so I'll never say it's always a bad idea but the exceptions for it are usually 2 complementary players in a killer offense like the Packer passing game or something akin to it. Otherwise, you'll run into really dry weeks when the Redskins run into a defense like the Niners or Seahawks. Also I think it'll limit your upside since there are probably not many games where all three players will put up enough points in the same game to make it consistently workable.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
Actually was thinking about posting the same question.
Example this year would be its not out of this world to end up with
6th d. Rich
7th cook
8th austin
9th givens
Example this year would be its not out of this world to end up with
6th d. Rich
7th cook
8th austin
9th givens
Hybrid
Footballguy
Couldn't disagree more. Look at the individual players and their situations, not at whether you pick too many from the same team (though you'll have to deal with a brutal bye week). Taking RG3 doesn't suddenly decrease the amount of points you're projecting from Morris. You are comfortable with Graham and Colston because they both put up good numbers and are worried about Ridley and Kenbrell Thompkins because Thompkins is a riskier pick. Having Ridley in no way decreases his value.
Hybrid
Footballguy
Bingo.
I mean, do you scout players and not draft two players who will each face a top rated D in the same week? Do you say..."no, I won't draft Morris and Cam, because in week X they play San Fran and Seattle and I don't want them both against a tough D in the same week"?
machogrande
Footballguy
I use QB/WR "hook ups" in my leagues every year. Every year I pick whatever I feel will be the best one to have, on a high scoring offense, and draft accordingly.
Personally, I've had a great deal of success. I probably wouldn't start a QB/RB/WR from the same team, but would go QB/WR/WR or QB/WR/TE.
Depends on starting lineups (3wr vs 2) and WR scoring as well....
In general, I think its been a good strategy, that has become a great strategy with the explosion of 5k yard passing offenses.
Personally, I've had a great deal of success. I probably wouldn't start a QB/RB/WR from the same team, but would go QB/WR/WR or QB/WR/TE.
Depends on starting lineups (3wr vs 2) and WR scoring as well....
In general, I think its been a good strategy, that has become a great strategy with the explosion of 5k yard passing offenses.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
A quick search of past articles (from this site I think) will prove this viewpoint 100% wrong. Multiple players from the same team actually increase your fantasy team's consistency. It's a good thing if your team is good (projected to outscore an average opponent), and a bad thing if your team is bad and needs the larger variance to win against an average opponent.Khy said:
ETA that it's not a big enough deal to change things either way. Just draft the best guys without going out of your way to look for or avoid guys that happen to be on the same team.
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Khy
Footballguy
Obviously, I'm not saying purposely ignore good value because you have two of the same team. However, there's a LARGE LARGE difference between three good players from separate teams and three bad players from separate teams. Obviously it depends on the players and the teams they're on which I explain when I discuss how I feel comfortable with Colston + Graham. But I'd feel uncomfortable on say 3 of my 6-7 starters being on the same team. Because if the team gets shut down in a few games, your team gets shut down in a few games.
steveski
Footballguy
I don't care what any study says, 4 players on the same team, especially the Rams, is too many. Maybe the Packers or Saints, but let's be real here. All the guys you listed are big question marks this year. They all have big potential, but if they all fell flat, nobody would be that surprised. Chances are 1 or 2 of them stick and the rest don't. If you think they are all startable fantasy players this year then I guess you have the Rams in the super bowl.ebsteelers said:
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We Tigers
Footballguy
I don't worry about it and have often ended up with a QB, RB, and WR/TE from the same team. It's really only bad in the sense that having Romo, Dez, and Austin could be a problem if Romo has a season ending injury. You've got to be pretty paranoid to draft expecting your QB to get hurt for the year, though.
Hybrid
Footballguy
Not buying it. Just one example I took about 2 minutes to find, if you had Forte and Marshall last year, in Week 4 Forte was outside of the top 30, Marshall was top 5. If you took Forte and Andre Johnson to spread out the talent, you had two players outside of the top 30 in Week 4.
Again, you face down weeks no matter what combination of players you get.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Starting Brees/Graham/Colston without hesitation.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
I have operated under the philosophy that it's just fine, in fact beneficial, to have 2 or more players from the same NFL team on your fantasy squad. Never did any studies myself, just what I've done on occasion and it always worked out well for me.
Obviously, you don't want to put 3 Raiders or 3 Jets on your squad this year, but you should be able to roll with 3 Broncos, or 3 Packers on your team.
Teams I've done it with in the past:
'04 & '05 Colts - Manning, James, Wayne (both years made it to championship game, 2nd place)
'08 Cardinals - Warner, James, Boldin, Breaston, Team Defense/ST (won most money in my league that year, even though finished 3rd)
Teams I'll do it with this year:
League 1
Broncos - Manning, Thomas, ?(WW addition at TE)
Rams - Richardson, Givens, Zuerlein
League 2
Packers - Rodgers, Nelson, Lacy?(draft)
I find that I almost always try to have that "hookup" between a QB and his WR1. I do this with top end QB's, not so much with average QB's.
Obviously, you don't want to put 3 Raiders or 3 Jets on your squad this year, but you should be able to roll with 3 Broncos, or 3 Packers on your team.
Teams I've done it with in the past:
'04 & '05 Colts - Manning, James, Wayne (both years made it to championship game, 2nd place)
'08 Cardinals - Warner, James, Boldin, Breaston, Team Defense/ST (won most money in my league that year, even though finished 3rd)
Teams I'll do it with this year:
League 1
Broncos - Manning, Thomas, ?(WW addition at TE)
Rams - Richardson, Givens, Zuerlein
League 2
Packers - Rodgers, Nelson, Lacy?(draft)
I find that I almost always try to have that "hookup" between a QB and his WR1. I do this with top end QB's, not so much with average QB's.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
more than 3 is too many
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
Depends on the team obviously. I would GLADLY welcome RG3, Morris, and Garcon on every single one of my leagues. I would quit FF however, if I had to have 3 Jets or Raiders on my team. 
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I've been contemplating this as a I have Ridley, Amendola, Thompkins and Sudfeld all gracing a single team this year. At first it didn't sit easy with me but then I thought about it a bit further. If there's one team I don't mind taking this approach with, it would be NE. NE lead the league in offensive snaps last year and I'm expecting much of the same this year. I won't be starting all four of these guys week in and week out but I do not mind starting 2 or 3 in conjunction with one another, especially if the MU is juicy.
FUBAR
Footballguy
It does depend on the team and your risk comfort.
A co-worker had an entire team of Lions a couple years ago and won his league.
You can do well with 3 sometimes even if the offense overall is average. Take the Cowboys last year. Middle of the road offense, but if you had drafted (at their ADP) Romo, Dez and Witten last year, and chosen decently elsewhere, you would have been fine. It's risky but don't go out of your way to avoid it.
I'm perfectly happy to roll with Brees, Sproles and Colston this year. If I had a chance to get Graham, I'd be fine with all 4.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
in ppr iom playing vereen at a flex and amendola & kenbrell at wr week1.
odds of them losign to buffalo 20 to 6? not very good
odds of them losign to buffalo 20 to 6? not very good
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