I voted a lot, but I don't agree with the second part. Mangini has tweaked the D in several key areas, including the way the secondary reacts in non-rushing situations. It was very apparent in yesterday's game in relation to years past.
Two big football fans and I were discussing this last night, and they basically said:1) The Pats were awesome before Mangini, and he hasn't made them any better2) Anything done on Belichick ultimately goes back to Mangini.I tend to give Mangini a lot more credit than them, as they gave him zero credit. Curious to hear what some Pats homers have to say.