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How much do you care about an Entertainer's personal views? (1 Viewer)

How much do you care about an Entertainer's personal views?

  • I don't care at all about their views.

    Votes: 81 68.6%

  • I care a little about their views.

    Votes: 30 25.4%

  • I care a good bit about their views.

    Votes: 6 5.1%

  • I care a lot about their views.

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Total voters
    118
Joe Bryant

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This article today made me think. The writer is basically scolding the press saying they are giving Tom Cruise a free pass for his views on Scientology which the writer has a problem with.

Had me wondering - how much does this matter to most people?

Or more, are they able to separate the person from the product? Can they enjoy a Robert DiNero movie if they are a supporter of President Trump? Can they like Mission Impossible if they dislike Scientology? That kind of thing.

And I know it's a gray area and a sliding scale and it also depends on the views. But thought I'd ask. 

 
I care pretty much the same about the views of all entertainers...and that would be about the same as some guy I don`t know sitting next to me in a bar.

When I watch a movie, concert or football game I watch it for entertainment, I can separate it.  Most entertainers, politicians live a "do as I say..not as I do" type of life anyway. So for me it is easy. 

 
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Depends how objectionable their personal view is. I generally separate the art from the artists though.

 
Da Guru said:
I care pretty much the same about the views of all entertainers...and that would be about the same as some guy I don`t know sitting next to me in a bar.
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Right, I don't care in the sense that it would influence my opinion unless for some reason I thought that person was also really bright or had some special insight into an issue. I think what Joe means is how willing would you be to buy that guy next to you a beer if you hate his views? If you pay to see a movie or download a song, you are supporting the artist. 

 
As long as the artists views are in what I consider the realm of normalcy, I don't care.  For instance, Pearl Jam is my favorite band, and their political views are a little to the left of where I think I am, or have been most of my life.  Their views are what I think of as "mainstream" liberal though, and I know and respect a lot of liberals.  This doesn't bother me.

Someone who's political or personal views support things that are illegal, or immoral in my own arbitrary viewpoint (ie, subjugation of women, physical or sexual abuse, tollerance of violence in general, etc) would turn me off an prevent me from support that artist.

 
An entertainer's personal views matter more than a regular joe simply because they have the ability to reach a wider audience.  Jenny McCarthy's views on vaccination are far more damaging than Crazy Sue the cat lady at the laundromat's, even if they believe the same thing. 

 
Actors/actresses - not at all

Singers/bands -a little to more than a little, depending how overt they are in their music

 
I view this site as entertainment.  It doesn't keep me from visiting that I strongly oppose one of the owners political views.   :shrug:

 
Joe Bryant said:
How much do you care about their personal views?
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A little bit?

For example, Harvey Weinstein is a scumbag, and I like Inglorious Basterds. Do I have to dislike the film because of what he did? 

Like I said: I’m likely to separate the art from the artist. 

 
I don't care at all.  opinions are like noses*, everyone has one  

If they do something awful, ala Michael Jackson, I think less of them and tend to not support them.  But, that's still relative to my scale of awful. for example, I didn't care at all about Mel Gibson's drunken rant.  Just thought he was an idiot.

*  :D

 
Quint said:
A little bit?

For example, Harvey Weinstein is a scumbag, and I like Inglorious Basterds. Do I have to dislike the film because of what he did? 

Like I said: I’m likely to separate the art from the artist. 
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The producer, while important, is probably the major figure of a film I would least equate to being an artist.  To keep with your point, how about Kevin Spacey? 

I think we may be conflating "personal (yet public) views" with past actions, as I doubt Spacey (or Weinstein) would advocate for the type of bad behavior they are accused of doing.  I personally can watch their works regardless, but I would think if one was being mindful, they would find it morally easier to boycott Spacey movies than someone they disagreed with politically but was not accused of malfeasance.  

 
Frostillicus said:
An entertainer's personal views matter more than a regular joe simply because they have the ability to reach a wider audience.  Jenny McCarthy's views on vaccination are far more damaging than Crazy Sue the cat lady at the laundromat's, even if they believe the same thing. 
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How dumb are people who are making medical decisions about their kids based on what the host of MTV's somewhat popular dating show Singled Out says instead of just listening to their pediatrician?

 
I think there is a difference beetween supporting them and enjoying their art. For example, I like some Roman Polanski movies. I will watch Chinatown if it is on TV. I would checkout a copy of Rosemarys Baby from the library. However, I wouldn't pay to go the theater if he put out a new movie. I will enjoy his art but not support it financially. 

 
Weird. I've never, ever been able to reconcile this except to chalk it up to mutual disagreements between what I consider audience and performer. I guess it means little since politically, I lean right but have so much left artistically that it doesn't bear fruit. 

So I went with little.

 
Ilov80s said:
I think there is a difference beetween supporting them and enjoying their art. For example, I like some Roman Polanski movies. I will watch Chinatown if it is on TV. I would checkout a copy of Rosemarys Baby from the library. However, I wouldn't pay to go the theater if he put out a new movie. I will enjoy his art but not support it financially. 
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You are supporting financially by watching though, even though you didnt spend a penny

 
Not much.  The biggest field of art that poses a problem for me though is in comedy; as most Right leaning comedians aren't very funny.

 
I'm having a whole lot of trouble saying what I want to but I think that if an artist has a distinct worldview, that that worldview must be considered on some level. Not sure how much, but at some point it becomes intolerable, I suppose.  

 
rockaction said:
I'm having a whole lot of trouble saying what I want to but I think that if an artist has a distinct worldview, that that worldview must be considered on some level. Not sure how much, but at some point it becomes intolerable, I suppose.  
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I assume you don't like Rage Against the Machine?

 
I voted "a good bit" but in retrospect I think I mostly care about behavior, not views. I think it's more about the person being so detestable that their presence is distracting, not about imposing my values on the entertainment. For example I can't enjoy Woody Allen movies any more, because it's hard not to think about what he's done and what he's been accused of doing while I watch. 

And even when it comes to politics there's a distinction between views and public behavior. If someone like Jon Voight is in a movie I won't even think twice about it, but if James Woods shows up I can't help but get distracted.

 
There have been rare instances where I find it difficult to separate a performer from their views.  In those rare instances I will avoid supporting that person with my dollars.  Even more rare is my non-support stance being so strong that I would seek to impose that on others in social situations. While I may avoid an entertainer, if my wife really wants to see something I will put my distaste aside to accommodate the wishes of someone I love. 

 
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Ilov80s said:
Depends how objectionable their personal view is. I generally separate the art from the artists though.
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Agree with this.  I still find humor in Bill Cosby early stand-up, but I'm unlikely to recommend it to my kids, so I'm not 100% immune from separating the art from the artists. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I assume you don't like Rage Against the Machine?
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I do like them and also like El-P, who Zack works with, so it's a perfect example of for how far I'm willing to go. 

Ya know, I can meet you in the middle if you'll give me an ear.  

 
I don't care much about anyone's beliefs until they try to impose them on others.

eta - always an interesting topic to debate, but I don't care in terms of my opinion of them as people.

 
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Keith R said:
The producer, while important, is probably the major figure of a film I would least equate to being an artist.  To keep with your point, how about Kevin Spacey? 

I think we may be conflating "personal (yet public) views" with past actions, as I doubt Spacey (or Weinstein) would advocate for the type of bad behavior they are accused of doing.  I personally can watch their works regardless, but I would think if one was being mindful, they would find it morally easier to boycott Spacey movies than someone they disagreed with politically but was not accused of malfeasance.  
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well, sure. i used the Weinstein example as it was the first one to come to mind, and the "art" doesn't necessarily get made without him or his production company (but i digress). 

Spacey? pretty awful person by most [recent] accounts. will i ever watch The Usual Suspects again? probably. 

as for "views" vs "actions,"  there are plenty of musicians whose views i don't agree with, yet have no compunction about listening to their songs. for example, i don't think  "#####es Ain't ####" yet Dr. Dre is on a few of my playlists. 

 
Don't really care at all, just don't push it down my throat, and don't parade it out to the media at every turn.

 
El Floppo said:
There's a difference though. I have no obligation to give money to Joe shmo for anything. Actors, musicians etc get my money for their services.

I voted a little bit.
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to that i say, if an actor/actress/public figure says something deplorable that i don't agree with then i'll probably ignore their new products and/or services going forward

but i don't expect a celebrity* to somehow occupy a higher, or more important, plane of existence whereby their opinion should mean more to me than some other jerk on the street.

*Aaron Rodgers exception

 
95% of the time don't care of their opinion 

if they did or said something  I think its absolutely disgusting and crosses my line I would do my best not to support them 

 
Mostly don't care unless it's related to something about which I feel strongly enough to declare my support or nonsupport.

Woody Harrelson & NORML - support.

Jane Fonda & committing treason - nonsupport. Would still...

 
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It bothers me that I now think less of Robert DeNiro, who has always been one of my favorite actors, because of his recent rants. It doesn't make any sense that I do, I know, but it is what it is.

 
Quint said:
A little bit?

For example, Harvey Weinstein is a scumbag, and I like Inglorious Basterds. Do I have to dislike the film because of what he did? 

Like I said: I’m likely to separate the art from the artist. 
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I think a little bit is where I am too. It's an interesting question I think. 

 
mr. furley said:
to that i say, if an actor/actress/public figure says something deplorable that i don't agree with then i'll probably ignore their new products and/or services going forward

but i don't expect a celebrity* to somehow occupy a higher, or more important, plane of existence whereby their opinion should mean more to me than some other jerk on the street.

*Aaron Rodgers exception
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first part... yeah, sure. for the most part, hinging on the scale of how disgusting/deplorable I think of what they said and tbh how much I like their art.

somebody mentioned Beck... always been a fan, and will continue to enjoy the music I've listened to over the years. but finding out he's a scientologist has swayed me a little bit away from his recent music (recent in terms of post-finding out he's a whackadoodle). I don't find myself as eager to search it out and listen to it... which is likely a result of learning that bit of news. but if it sounds good when I do, I'll still listen to it.

and I don't the question was whether they should or do occupy a higher more important plane of existence. they obviously do.*

eta* pm shuke for details

 
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rockaction said:
I do like them and also like El-P, who Zack works with, so it's a perfect example of for how far I'm willing to go. 

Ya know, I can meet you in the middle if you'll give me an ear.  
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When I was younger, I was much more conservative but somehow still totally dug Rage and their message.

 
In general don't care at all, unless it's way, way beyond the pale.  My favorite band is a million miles to the left of me, but it's not horrible stuff, just a different perspective.  Fine with me.

It has to be truly awful to get me to not be able to ignore.  Cosby, Spacey, etc. did things outside of acting, so it's a bit of a different world.  Jack Black, on the other hand. has made a distinct point to show his hate for Christianity as his acting personality - broadcast prayer to Satan, various videos, etc.  Since they're intermingled, he's the only one I can think of that I can't sit through.   Vile individual - won't watch.  

 
If you don't care about their views, then why are you consuming their art?  The results are bizarre to me.

I get not caring about the views of folks in pure entertainment like blockbuster movies and such, but I care very much about the views of most artists I enjoy. The alternative seems so empty.

 
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