How much does school affiliation come into play? (1 Viewer)

[For The Dawgs]

Don't think this has been discussed in this forum, so I'm curious what you guys think of this idea. It's no secret that Jerry Jones and Felix Jones are both Razorbacks. Jerry Jones is an owner with a very strong connection to his Alum. Not saying that's the ONLY or PRIMARY reason why Felix Jones was taken by the Cowboys last year, but I'll bet it was an important factor.

So my question is.....all other things being equal or close.....do you think Jerry Jones tries to influence how much playing time a Felix Jones gets in a game? Do you think Jerry WANTS Felix to be more successful than Barber or Choice? How, if at all, do you think this can come into play?

 

[oso diablo]

i wouldn't give it much, if any, consideration for my low$ fantasy team. I can't imagine that it has any play when you're talking about a multi-million $ business.

 

[For The Dawgs]

i wouldn't give it much, if any, consideration for my low$ fantasy team. I can't imagine that it has any play when you're talking about a multi-million $ business.

I appreciate your thought. When I framed the question I tried to make it clear that most everything else is equal. I'm not suggesting you'd play a slug over a clearly better player because your alumni of the same school. I went to Iowa. If I owned a football team and had two running backs on my team, one from Iowa and the other from say Notre Dame.....if they were both of similar talent I know in my heart I'd be pulling for the Iowa guy. I think most people would. It would just be human nature.So, not disagreeing with you opinion....just hard for me to imagine that Jerry doesn't want Felix to be his lead guy more than Choice....so long as he can get the job done.

 

[FavreCo]

Jones is a meddling idiot. The team would be much better if he just drank himself into a coma in the owners box instead of wandering down to the sidelines and getting involved in things he obviously has no clue about.

Yes, he wants Felix in there as much as possible regardless of who is better. He wouldn't have come up with the stupid 'razorback' formation if he wasn't.

 

[switz]

Jones is a meddling idiot. The team would be much better if he just drank himself into a coma in the owners box instead of wandering down to the sidelines and getting involved in things he obviously has no clue about. Yes, he wants Felix in there as much as possible regardless of who is better. He wouldn't have come up with the stupid 'razorback' formation if he wasn't.

FavreCo, why do you hate Jones so much?As for who is better, outside of health questions, it's pretty clear Jones is the best RB form a talent point of view.

 

[FavreCo]

Jones is a meddling idiot. The team would be much better if he just drank himself into a coma in the owners box instead of wandering down to the sidelines and getting involved in things he obviously has no clue about. Yes, he wants Felix in there as much as possible regardless of who is better. He wouldn't have come up with the stupid 'razorback' formation if he wasn't.

FavreCo, why do you hate Jones so much?As for who is better, outside of health questions, it's pretty clear Jones is the best RB form a talent point of view.

I woulnd't say I hate him. He entertaining and I like seeing the boys lose becasue of him. He doesn't affect the play of my team ever since I gave up on the suckage that is Julius Jones. He only helps it when my guys visit the boys and go off on them.Jones is just a fool. As an owner, he and Dan Snyder are miserable failures (he had nothing to do with the Herschal Walker maneuver that got the 'boys 3 SB's.) Only after Johnson made that move did Jones think he was qualified to make decisions...which he still shows that he's not.Felix has no ability to move the pile. He's got speed but he can't do things Barber can. He's in there when he shouldn't be because of the meddler. Also, I'm not saying he's not good, I think he is. The team needs them both and Choice.

 

[switz]

Jones is a meddling idiot. The team would be much better if he just drank himself into a coma in the owners box instead of wandering down to the sidelines and getting involved in things he obviously has no clue about. Yes, he wants Felix in there as much as possible regardless of who is better. He wouldn't have come up with the stupid 'razorback' formation if he wasn't.

FavreCo, why do you hate Jones so much?As for who is better, outside of health questions, it's pretty clear Jones is the best RB form a talent point of view.

I woulnd't say I hate him. Jones is just a fool. Felix has no ability to move the pile.

Well... I think your stand on things is pretty clear. You hate the Cowboys, despise Jones, and don't know much about the RBs there.Good to know.

 

[Phurfur]

Don't think this has been discussed in this forum, so I'm curious what you guys think of this idea. It's no secret that Jerry Jones and Felix Jones are both Razorbacks. Jerry Jones is an owner with a very strong connection to his Alum. Not saying that's the ONLY or PRIMARY reason why Felix Jones was taken by the Cowboys last year, but I'll bet it was an important factor.So my question is.....all other things being equal or close.....do you think Jerry Jones tries to influence how much playing time a Felix Jones gets in a game? Do you think Jerry WANTS Felix to be more successful than Barber or Choice? How, if at all, do you think this can come into play?

I think JJ is more concerned with winning than how his razorback does. HTH

 

[For The Dawgs]

Don't think this has been discussed in this forum, so I'm curious what you guys think of this idea. It's no secret that Jerry Jones and Felix Jones are both Razorbacks. Jerry Jones is an owner with a very strong connection to his Alum. Not saying that's the ONLY or PRIMARY reason why Felix Jones was taken by the Cowboys last year, but I'll bet it was an important factor.So my question is.....all other things being equal or close.....do you think Jerry Jones tries to influence how much playing time a Felix Jones gets in a game? Do you think Jerry WANTS Felix to be more successful than Barber or Choice? How, if at all, do you think this can come into play?

I think JJ is more concerned with winning than how his razorback does. HTH

Of course he is....at least I'd hope he is. So, then your position is that Jerry Jones drafting Felix Jones had nothing to do with him attending Arkansas, and that fact is just irony? I'm not saying you're wrong.....and I continue to emphasize that I don't think Jerry would play Felix if he didn't think he gives him a great chance to win. I just find it hard to believe that Jerry isn't pulling a little bit extra for Felix to be the guy. Not sure if those internal feelings play into any directions to the coach, but it's more difficult for me to believe that the school affiliation doesn't mean something. I could just be way off....

 

[switz]

Don't think this has been discussed in this forum, so I'm curious what you guys think of this idea. It's no secret that Jerry Jones and Felix Jones are both Razorbacks. Jerry Jones is an owner with a very strong connection to his Alum. Not saying that's the ONLY or PRIMARY reason why Felix Jones was taken by the Cowboys last year, but I'll bet it was an important factor.

So my question is.....all other things being equal or close.....do you think Jerry Jones tries to influence how much playing time a Felix Jones gets in a game? Do you think Jerry WANTS Felix to be more successful than Barber or Choice? How, if at all, do you think this can come into play?

I think JJ is more concerned with winning than how his razorback does. HTH

Of course he is....at least I'd hope he is. So, then your position is that Jerry Jones drafting Felix Jones had nothing to do with him attending Arkansas, and that fact is just irony? I'm not saying you're wrong.....and I continue to emphasize that I don't think Jerry would play Felix if he didn't think he gives him a great chance to win. I just find it hard to believe that Jerry isn't pulling a little bit extra for Felix to be the guy. Not sure if those internal feelings play into any directions to the coach, but it's more difficult for me to believe that the school affiliation doesn't mean something. I could just be way off....

IIRC, Felix was the first Arkansas player drafted by the Cowboys since he has owned the team. While I'm sure he's rooting for him to do well, it's pretty clear he didn't draft him just because he's a razorback, and won't push phillips to start him just because he's a razorback.Just look at the split of touches last year over the first 6 games, and you can see Jerry isn't forcing Felix on the coaches at all. In fact, many might argue that last year Jerry should have pushed the coached to play Felix more.

 

[Bankerguy]

Good grief people.

 

[For The Dawgs]

Good grief people.

Just asking a question. Your valuable contribution is appreciated. I'll "good grief" you. I'll never understand why someone takes the time to open a thread that they don't want to read and then criticize the subject matter. If you want to have an intelligent discussion, great. But your post is simply a waste of what little brain matter you may have.

 

[Ridgelake]

I agree with Bankerguy on this. But I'll add to the discussion all the same.

Jerry Jones is such a HUGE Razorback pusher that he didnt have a single alum on the team from when Jones took over in the late 80s until Ken Hamlin was signed as a free agent before the 2007 season. Thats almost 20 years of owning and managing the team before the first Razorback made the team. Jerry bent over backwards to take Felix, especially when Jason Garrett was pushing majorly hard to draft him over Mendenhall and CJ.

So yes, that alum connection makes a HUGE difference in how Jerry runs the team.

 

[For The Dawgs]

I agree with Bankerguy on this. But I'll add to the discussion all the same.Jerry Jones is such a HUGE Razorback pusher that he didnt have a single alum on the team from when Jones took over in the late 80s until Ken Hamlin was signed as a free agent before the 2007 season. Thats almost 20 years of owning and managing the team before the first Razorback made the team. Jerry bent over backwards to take Felix, especially when Jason Garrett was pushing majorly hard to draft him over Mendenhall and CJ. So yes, that alum connection makes a HUGE difference in how Jerry runs the team.

Good. That's useful information that discredits my assertion. So I can accept that. Thanks.

 

[Bankerguy]

Good grief people.

Just asking a question. Your valuable contribution is appreciated. I'll "good grief" you. I'll never understand why someone takes the time to open a thread that they don't want to read and then criticize the subject matter. If you want to have an intelligent discussion, great. But your post is simply a waste of what little brain matter you may have.

...and I'll never understand why someone states something with no knowledge of the subject or without researching easily accesible facts. That's why I "good griefed" the thread.