How Much Does the Haynesworth Signing (2 Viewers)

[Bob Magaw]

assuming he doesn't get fat & lazy with the big contract in the bag...

lombardi on NFL channell said something i said last year... haynesworth is the most dominant two way DL i've seen since reggie white in his prime...

he almost single handedly destroys a team's run game, & is an epic pocket collapser, enabling his teammates around him to make more plays getting to the QB... things are going to be a lot different for the cowboys, giants & eagles going forward when they line up against WAS...

not saying i would handicap them as the early favorite to leap frog over the rest of the NFC east denizens... but it should definitely partially close the gap in what was already a brutally competitive & notoriously tight division...

maintaining interior OL strength could be at even more of a premium than before for the division...

 

[twitch]

Washington's still got the worst QB in the division. Haynesworth obviously helps. But he's only one man. And he cant run the WCO.

 

[Mustang Man]

Washington's still got the worst QB in the division. Haynesworth obviously helps. But he's only one man. And he cant run the WCO.

Yeah and how many other players are they going to have to cut because of this crazy big contract. I am sure there will be cap hell to pay. Just another big signing for the March Super Bowl Champions

 

[Ripleys]

Washington has made some great moves on D, for sure. But I think their success rides on Jason Campbell. And for many Skins fan, that is a very scary thing. I'm just not sold on him, but hopefully Zorn proves his worth and he continues to improve under his coaching. I know this, the offense HAS to be creative, and take more shots downfield. And yes, the o-line needs to get younger too. I'm pretty sure we'll see that in the draft though.

 

[Avery]

Same old, same old.

Redskins and Dallas win the off-season awards while the Giants (and Eagles :( ) win the games when they count.

 

[thayman]

Washington's still got the worst QB in the division. Haynesworth obviously helps. But he's only one man. And he cant run the WCO.

Yeah and how many other players are they going to have to cut because of this crazy big contract. I am sure there will be cap hell to pay. Just another big signing for the March Super Bowl Champions

People say this every year. Funny enough the Skins never end up there. I do agree that Campbell is probably the worst QB in the division. However he is a servicable QB.

 

[Rockchild]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

 

[gianmarco]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

 

[sparkky]

funny thing is, I was just setting here thinking "out of the NFC East which one would I want my team to play if I HAD to play one?"

STILL the Skins.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

I disagree. Collins is mediocre. He's on a run first team that can set up the pass.The jury is still out on Campbell.

 

[twitch]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

 

[thayman]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence was much better this year than last. If he takes more strides again this year than he can be a decent QB.

 

[gianmarco]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence was much better this year than last. If he takes more strides again this year than he can be a decent QB.

Jason Campbell has been in the league since 2005. He's been a starter for 2 1/2 years of those last 4. At what point do we finally decide that he's probably not gonna get it? Most QB's that haven't shown at least flashes in the 1st 2 yrs often don't. He's heading into his 5th season in the NFL and almost his 4th year as a starter and we're still hoping he might take strides. He just isn't very good.

 

[fatness]

Yeah and how many other players are they going to have to cut because of this crazy big contract. I

One. Shawn Springs, who's already been cut, leaving them in good shape with Hall and Rogers at cornerback.

 

[Rockchild]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence was much better this year than last. If he takes more strides again this year than he can be a decent QB.

Jason Campbell has been in the league since 2005. Yes, he's only started 2 yrs of the last 4, but at what point do we finally decide that he's probably not gonna get it? Most QB's that haven't shown at least flashes in the 1st 2 yrs often don't.

If I'm not mistaken, this will be the first time that Campbell has the same OC and offense from the previous year. I agree that this is his make or break year.

 

[thayman]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence was much better this year than last. If he takes more strides again this year than he can be a decent QB.

Jason Campbell has been in the league since 2005. He's been a starter for 2 1/2 years of those last 4. At what point do we finally decide that he's probably not gonna get it? Most QB's that haven't shown at least flashes in the 1st 2 yrs often don't. He's heading into his 5th season in the NFL and almost his 4th year as a starter and we're still hoping he might take strides. He just isn't very good.

He's no Peyton Manning, but he is a servicable QB at the end of his rookie contract.

 

[fatness]

How Much Does the Haynesworth Signing, shift the NFC East balance of power?

It's impossible to predict the NFC East. Each year's preseason predictions for that division are wrong. Right now the Giants still look like the class of the division, with the Eagles next. Washington doesn't seem like they'll improve much without improvement to their offensive line, which was much more of a problem for them than Jason Campbell was. And Dallas looks like a 56-man steel cage battle royal, where there's tons of interesting action but nobody's on the same team. Halfway through the season the division will likely look different, though. It's the NFC East.

 

[fatness]

Redskins just signed Derrick Dockery, so they're climbing.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

not at all, they still cant protect the QB, portis is one year older, their WRs are pedestrian, and you also have to wonder if Fat Albert goes into early retirement now that he's been paid

 

[Marc Levin]

Haynesworth does not shift the balance of power, but he could certainly help make a fine defense elite.

Getting to Manning/McNabb/Romo and stopping those teams' running games has to be a Redskins priority. It is likely that they will need to hold teams under 20 points to win most of their divisional games.

I think the move helps them tread water in the NFL's toughest division.

 

[timschochet]

The reason that everyone said the Steelers had the toughest schedule last year was because (a) they had to face all the Division winners, and (B) they had to face the NFC East. I think that this year the NFC East is even tougher, but thankfully, the Steelers don't have to face them.

I also think that the 2nd place schedule in the AFC is tougher than first place, as even though the Steelers are a great team, I would rather face Pittsburgh, Miami, and Tennessee next year than New England, Indianapolis, and Baltimore.

Therefore, I can safely say with total confidence that going into to the 2009 season, the team with by far the most difficult schedule will be the Denver Broncos,as they will have to face the entire NFC East, plus New England, Indianapolis, Baltimore AND Pittsburgh. Hope they're ready.

 

[Black]

Haynesworth played a full season, very well, the one time he was waiting to get paid. With his attitude, I can't see him putting forth that kind of effort moving forward.

Even if he is dominant, the Redskins have a cavalier way of tossing money at guys and hoping the chemistry works out. I would doubt Zorn can control that locker room, and can't see it being good in the long run.

 

[southeastjerome]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence was much better this year than last. If he takes more strides again this year than he can be a decent QB.

Jason Campbell has been in the league since 2005. He's been a starter for 2 1/2 years of those last 4. At what point do we finally decide that he's probably not gonna get it? Most QB's that haven't shown at least flashes in the 1st 2 yrs often don't. He's heading into his 5th season in the NFL and almost his 4th year as a starter and we're still hoping he might take strides. He just isn't very good.

In those 2 1/2 years Campbell has had to learn 3 different offenses. How many QB's can you say the same about. Not to make excuses, he has not been brilliant, but he has steadily improved each year despite having to learn new a new offense 3 times. He had a nice completion % and had the fewest INT's among starting QB's. Not saying he's the next Dan Marino, but he's made some strides.

 

[Bri]

this was the best way to stop the excellent run games in the division. Never hurts to add nervous C to nervous QB on your opponents roster too. Sorry if out of line but, there's no way Gurode forgets that and isn't going to be extra preoccupied with the notion of playing him. Romo is jittery in big games already and IIRC Haynesworth knocked 4 QBs out of games in 08 with his hits. Redskins might get an added bonus from this signing in December when the Boys choke somehow.

Also it makes every D in the division capable of being a top 10 D with a little finagling. I could see each(or 3) team adding a LB this offseason too.

The problem with divisions and records nowadays is it's only 6 games and doesn't sway anything one way or the other. A team that loses all 6 can still win the division at 10-6 some years and that's a bit off IMO.

NFC east teams usually play each other well so I'm not sure if that will change a bit by this-they'll still be slugfests. However, that's no fun to talk about and debate.

 

[Bri]

In those 2 1/2 years Campbell has had to learn 3 different offenses. How many QB's can you say the same about. Not to make excuses, he has not been brilliant, but he has steadily improved each year despite having to learn new a new offense 3 times. He had a nice completion % and had the fewest INT's among starting QB's. Not saying he's the next Dan Marino, but he's made some strides.

this only matters if he's still confident through it all.there is nothing more useless than a QB that lacks confidence

 

[southeastjerome]

In those 2 1/2 years Campbell has had to learn 3 different offenses. How many QB's can you say the same about. Not to make excuses, he has not been brilliant, but he has steadily improved each year despite having to learn new a new offense 3 times. He had a nice completion % and had the fewest INT's among starting QB's. Not saying he's the next Dan Marino, but he's made some strides.

this only matters if he's still confident through it all.there is nothing more useless than a QB that lacks confidence

I agree, but as I said he has improved. And playing for a new contract he has something to prove. Its premature to write him off. At the same time its premature ejaculation to say he's capable of leading a team to a super bowl.

 

[HellToupee]

The reason that everyone said the Steelers had the toughest schedule last year was because (a) they had to face all the Division winners, and (B) they had to face the NFC East. I think that this year the NFC East is even tougher, but thankfully, the Steelers don't have to face them. I also think that the 2nd place schedule in the AFC is tougher than first place, as even though the Steelers are a great team, I would rather face Pittsburgh, Miami, and Tennessee next year than New England, Indianapolis, and Baltimore.Therefore, I can safely say with total confidence that going into to the 2009 season, the team with by far the most difficult schedule will be the Denver Broncos,as they will have to face the entire NFC East, plus New England, Indianapolis, Baltimore AND Pittsburgh. Hope they're ready.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Tough to guess.

Giants - Still look like a double-digit-win team, but they desperately need better WR play

Cowboys - ??? The only certain thing here is lolz but they still have the players

Redskins - Defense sure looks good. Um, on paper. Can last year's rookie WRs contribute now? Their OL is way too old, they have to draft some guys.

Eagles - Who ever knows. Probably the usual story, a "dangerous" team who can beat anyone but either under- or overachieves in the end.

 

[houndirish]

Redskins doing the usual of spending big this time of year. At least this time they can claim to have landed a premier player in his prime, something they haven't done with frequency. However I tend to think Haynesworth doesn't play above his 2008 level. Granted that was pretty damn good, but a guy with a reputation for taking plays off and being a moody malcontent likely isn't going to elevate his game substantially AFTER he gets paid.

I don't think Haynesworth will pull a Stubblefield but I don't think he'll be a consistently dominant player. He does upgrade the Redskins and the move puts Washington in the mix, but as has already been mentioned, they need some help on O too. Haynesworth will mix brilliant play in with periods of disappearance. He won't be remain a Redskin through the life of the contract.

Best lineman in the division still wears #91 and suits up for NY.

 

[Bob Magaw]

this was the best way to stop the excellent run games in the division. Never hurts to add nervous C to nervous QB on your opponents roster too. Sorry if out of line but, there's no way Gurode forgets that and isn't going to be extra preoccupied with the notion of playing him. Romo is jittery in big games already and IIRC Haynesworth knocked 4 QBs out of games in 08 with his hits. Redskins might get an added bonus from this signing in December when the Boys choke somehow.Also it makes every D in the division capable of being a top 10 D with a little finagling. I could see each(or 3) team adding a LB this offseason too.The problem with divisions and records nowadays is it's only 6 games and doesn't sway anything one way or the other. A team that loses all 6 can still win the division at 10-6 some years and that's a bit off IMO.NFC east teams usually play each other well so I'm not sure if that will change a bit by this-they'll still be slugfests. However, that's no fun to talk about and debate.

yeah, i totally forgot that gurode gets to face him twice a year now (at least)... maybe he will be wearing a hockey mask under his helmet?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

funny thing is, I was just setting here thinking "out of the NFC East which one would I want my team to play if I HAD to play one?" STILL the Skins.

The Skins are more of a random number generator than a clutch choker (THAT would be Dallas). So it depends on if the game means anything. If it does, I'd rather play Dallas. Been that way for a decade. Comes from an owner who can't co-exist with a strong head coach. Jerry is Al Davis Light.

 

[Larrywarren]

If the addition of Haynesworth does turn the Skins D in to a great unit then Campbell's most obvious statistical strength may prove telling - he has thrown just 23 interceptions in 36 starts and last season he threw just 6 picks in 16 starts.

 

[Bri]

In those 2 1/2 years Campbell has had to learn 3 different offenses. How many QB's can you say the same about. Not to make excuses, he has not been brilliant, but he has steadily improved each year despite having to learn new a new offense 3 times. He had a nice completion % and had the fewest INT's among starting QB's. Not saying he's the next Dan Marino, but he's made some strides.

this only matters if he's still confident through it all.there is nothing more useless than a QB that lacks confidence

I agree, but as I said he has improved. And playing for a new contract he has something to prove. Its premature to write him off. At the same time its premature ejaculation to say he's capable of leading a team to a super bowl.

True just have a quick hook or a backup plan(to win now not some young developmental project)

 

[Bri]

Sorry if out of line but, there's no way Gurode forgets that and isn't going to be extra preoccupied with the notion of playing him.

yeah, I totally forgot that Gurode gets to face him twice a year now (at least)... maybe he will be wearing a hockey mask under his helmet?

That'd be funny and a good move. Maybe a hockey/lacrosse goalie shield with that neck/chin part that sorta flaps on the end of it.

 

[Jason Wood]

You can't honestly say Haynesworth doesn't single handedly change the complexity of that defense. But I still don't see them as a legitimate title contender. Offensive line needs help, Campbell isn't the answer, and the WR corps leaves much to be desired. Plus I don't have a great deal of respect for their coaching staff. Lots to prove, but they've got a guy in the middle now that will help.

Consider though that Washington has long been known for signing big ticket DTs under Snyder's watch, and has it really mattered? Or, consider other teams that go out and spend big dough to bring in FA DTs, rarely has it made the teams contenders. Shaun Rogers, Pat Williams, etc...to me it's a MASSIVE RISK to give a big DT huge FA dollars.

 

[moondog]

Haynesworth played a full season, very well, the one time he was waiting to get paid. With his attitude, I can't see him putting forth that kind of effort moving forward.Even if he is dominant, the Redskins have a cavalier way of tossing money at guys and hoping the chemistry works out. I would doubt Zorn can control that locker room, and can't see it being good in the long run.

Good post. I think this is the biggest concern with Haynesworth. He has never shown himself to be a play hard all the time type of guy. Last year the Titans had Haynesworth playing for a contract and the great team success having them thinking SB. Now he has $41M guaranteed. How motivated will he be ?

 

[T Bell]

Washington's still got the worst QB in the division. Haynesworth obviously helps. But he's only one man. And he cant run the WCO.

They have no passing game that is capable of winning games for them, certainly not on any sort of a consistent basis or against top defenses. They can run and play defense which is a solid formula for making the playoffs, but pretty much every team in the NFC East can boast that. Moreover they're still trying to rebuild an aged and injury-prone o-line. What's going to be lost on most people about Hall and Haynesworth is that they not only generally helped address two defensive deficiencies, they were virtually custom-made to do so (again, assuming proper motivation and health). The Redskins D-line has generated zero pass pressure rushing four people, and frankly rushing five generated little more. Haynesworth alone can fix that and should make the other guys around him - who aren't bad players but who certainly aren't stars - better. Moreover, while their CB's have been solid in coverage and run support, they have had a glaring inability to actually hold onto INT's, Carlos Rogers in particular. Hall even during the short time in 2008 he was playing with them was a marked improvement in that regard, and with the added pressure up front from Haynesworth the defensive whole may be improved more than the sum of the added parts. Still, until Campbell and the WR's and the o-line can prove that they have their act together, you still have to predict no better than a third place finish in a tough division. That's just the truth, and even that ignores the scary possibility of a complacent Haynesworth and a moody Hall amounting to busts for the 'Skins.

 

[T Bell]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence is not his problem at all. He doesn't take sacks and does a fine job sidestepping pressure and making plays, or scrambling for first downs, sometimes in key situations. He's not Tony Romo in that regard, but he's a lot better at that than guys like Derek Anderson or Drew Bledsoe have been. Late in the year when the o-line was broken down, he had fewer chances to even do that, but again that's not been Campbell's problem. Campbell's biggest problems have been a lack of talent in the WR corps and a seeming reluctance to take risks with the ball, the latter of which is both a blessing and a curse because at least he's avoided INT's. There are also questions about how well he reads defenses, but I see him learning and developing in that regard. He may never be great or be able to carry a team single-handedly (few can), but I still think he can be a good NFL starter with some talent around him.

 

[T Bell]

Haynesworth played a full season, very well, the one time he was waiting to get paid. With his attitude, I can't see him putting forth that kind of effort moving forward.Even if he is dominant, the Redskins have a cavalier way of tossing money at guys and hoping the chemistry works out. I would doubt Zorn can control that locker room, and can't see it being good in the long run.

This is the concern. Only time will tell if it's valid.

 

[T Bell]

funny thing is, I was just setting here thinking "out of the NFC East which one would I want my team to play if I HAD to play one?"

STILL the Skins.

The Skins are more of a random number generator than a clutch choker (THAT would be Dallas). So it depends on if the game means anything. If it does, I'd rather play Dallas. Been that way for a decade. Comes from an owner who can't co-exist with a strong head coach. Jerry is Al Davis Light.

So true.

 

[QUEZILLA]

he almost single handedly destroys a team's run game, & is an epic pocket collapser, enabling his teammates around him to make more plays getting to the QB... things are going to be a lot different for the cowboys, giants & eagles going forward when they line up against WAS...maintaining interior OL strength could be at even more of a premium than before for the division...

This is just going to make teams pick on DeAngelo Hall more. So as long as he doesn't have to cover Eddie Royal all should be good.

 

[T Bell]

he almost single handedly destroys a team's run game, & is an epic pocket collapser, enabling his teammates around him to make more plays getting to the QB... things are going to be a lot different for the cowboys, giants & eagles going forward when they line up against WAS...maintaining interior OL strength could be at even more of a premium than before for the division...

This is just going to make teams pick on DeAngelo Hall more. So as long as he doesn't have to cover Eddie Royal all should be good.

Hall's problem in Oakland was that he was asked to play in a scheme that didn't match his talents. Hall doesn't suck at all as a cover CB, and in the half-season he spent with the 'Skins after Oakland he showed that if he's played to his strengths he's still a good player who can make plays around the ball.

 

[Bankerguy]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence is not his problem at all. He doesn't take sacks and does a fine job sidestepping pressure and making plays, or scrambling for first downs, sometimes in key situations. He's not Tony Romo in that regard, but he's a lot better at that than guys like Derek Anderson or Drew Bledsoe have been. Late in the year when the o-line was broken down, he had fewer chances to even do that, but again that's not been Campbell's problem. Campbell's biggest problems have been a lack of talent in the WR corps and a seeming reluctance to take risks with the ball, the latter of which is both a blessing and a curse because at least he's avoided INT's. There are also questions about how well he reads defenses, but I see him learning and developing in that regard. He may never be great or be able to carry a team single-handedly (few can), but I still think he can be a good NFL starter with some talent around him.

Campbbell gets a bad rap imo. I watched a ton of Skins last year for the game recaps. Here were my biggest observations:-His WR's were not generating much separation.-His O-line would almost certainly give up a sack on any 5 to 7 step drops.-I thought his accuracy improved over the previous year- I also agree that he seems to hesitate in pulling the ball down and running for positive yards. When he did it, he was quite successful.-The offense was very predictable and certain passing plays were used far too often.- Teams could sit on routes no greater then 15 yards and play man under.As far as the NFC East goes. It's impossible to predict and any who thinks otherwise is ignorant or fishing. It's hard to argue that Washington won't be a better team then last year. Both Philly and the NYG have very nice rosters and are solid top to bottom. Both clubs are also sitting with some available cap space and can look forward to plenty of picks in the draft. Dallas right now is the hardest to read and predict. A case could be made for anything really (13-3 or even 6-10).

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Campbell just has absolutely no pocket presence whatsoever. So for whatever area of his skill set that may be better than Collins, that horrible feel for the game overshadows all the rest. This is it for him in '09. Its sink or swim. But the entire division is taking on a new look. You just cant underestimate how big of a loss NY suffers on D without their lead coordinator. And Philly is getting purged right now on all fronts in personnel. Dallas of course is an ongoing soap. This thing'll be wide open.

His pocket presence is not his problem at all. He doesn't take sacks and does a fine job sidestepping pressure and making plays, or scrambling for first downs, sometimes in key situations. He's not Tony Romo in that regard, but he's a lot better at that than guys like Derek Anderson or Drew Bledsoe have been. Late in the year when the o-line was broken down, he had fewer chances to even do that, but again that's not been Campbell's problem. Campbell's biggest problems have been a lack of talent in the WR corps and a seeming reluctance to take risks with the ball, the latter of which is both a blessing and a curse because at least he's avoided INT's. There are also questions about how well he reads defenses, but I see him learning and developing in that regard. He may never be great or be able to carry a team single-handedly (few can), but I still think he can be a good NFL starter with some talent around him.

Campbbell gets a bad rap imo. I watched a ton of Skins last year for the game recaps. Here were my biggest observations:-His WR's were not generating much separation.-His O-line would almost certainly give up a sack on any 5 to 7 step drops.-I thought his accuracy improved over the previous year- I also agree that he seems to hesitate in pulling the ball down and running for positive yards. When he did it, he was quite successful.-The offense was very predictable and certain passing plays were used far too often.- Teams could sit on routes no greater then 15 yards and play man under.As far as the NFC East goes. It's impossible to predict and any who thinks otherwise is ignorant or fishing. It's hard to argue that Washington won't be a better team then last year. Both Philly and the NYG have very nice rosters and are solid top to bottom. Both clubs are also sitting with some available cap space and can look forward to plenty of picks in the draft. Dallas right now is the hardest to read and predict. A case could be made for anything really (13-3 or even 6-10).

the signing of Dockery and having Campbell in the same system(a tough one to learn) for 2 years in a row should be very helpful. Hoplefully our young WRs improve as well.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

It makes them less of an afterthought. They were the clear-cut favorite to repeat as cellar dwellers. Now, they should be more competitive. I'm not ready to declare them better than any of the other three, though.

 

[fatness]

Campbbell gets a bad rap imo. I watched a ton of Skins last year for the game recaps. Here were my biggest observations:-His WR's were not generating much separation.-His O-line would almost certainly give up a sack on any 5 to 7 step drops.-I thought his accuracy improved over the previous year- I also agree that he seems to hesitate in pulling the ball down and running for positive yards. When he did it, he was quite successful.-The offense was very predictable and certain passing plays were used far too often.- Teams could sit on routes no greater then 15 yards and play man under.

This is the most accurate description I've seen of the Redskin offense in the second half of last season.

 

[FavreCo]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

I disagree. Collins is mediocre. He's on a run first team that can set up the pass.The jury is still out on Campbell.

No, the jury's verdict is in. He sucks.Haynesworth was wasted money. They aren't competing for a championship until they get a QB.

 

[thayman]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

I disagree. Collins is mediocre. He's on a run first team that can set up the pass.The jury is still out on Campbell.

No, the jury's verdict is in. He sucks.Haynesworth was wasted money. They aren't competing for a championship until they get a QB.

That's a pretty dumb statement.

 

[Stitch]

How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

I disagree. Collins is mediocre. He's on a run first team that can set up the pass.The jury is still out on Campbell.

No, the jury's verdict is in. He sucks.Haynesworth was wasted money. They aren't competing for a championship until they get a QB.

That's a pretty dumb statement.

 

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How would you compare Campbell to Kerry Collins? It's amazing how succeesful a team can be with a dominant defense and how it hides limitations on offense.

Not as good. Collins is a VERY underrated QB.

I disagree. Collins is mediocre. He's on a run first team that can set up the pass.The jury is still out on Campbell.

No, the jury's verdict is in. He sucks.Haynesworth was wasted money. They aren't competing for a championship until they get a QB.

That's a pretty dumb statement.

thats a pretty good assessment of that statement