How much of an upgrade is TO (1 Viewer)

[thayman]

I know Dallas had no real #1 last year, but the last time TO played a full season 2004 Owens had 230 more yards and six more touchdowns then Keyshawn— but he also had Donovan McNabb throwing him the ball, not Vinny Testaverde.

Bledsoe is an upgrade over Testaverde, but by no means is he a healthy Donovan.

Thoughts???

 

[Sabertooth]

Thoughts??? You want thoughts??

I'll give you some thoughts.

Meshawn can't hold T.O.'s jock. Owens has all of the "over the middle" and pass blocking ability of Meshawn, however he is waaaaaay more of a threat down the sidelines and in the red zone.

It's apples and bowling balls :sopranos:

Seriously, Owens is going to change that offense. Bledsoe has always been pretty solid at the deep ball. I think this move is a master stroke by Dallas and vaults them into the top 5 or 6 offenses in the league. T.O. is going to draw double teams and Glenn and Witten are going to kill because of it. Teams absolutely cannot load 8 men in the box because there are very very few corners than can even battle Owens to a draw one-on-one.

And as far as a healthy McNabb, I remember seeing T.O. take a lot of short passes and make them long ones with his R.A.C. ability. He is a special player with the ball in his hands.

I really think Glenn is the sleeper now though. Witten is a great option as well. Those are the shark meat.

 

[thayman]

Thoughts??? You want thoughts??

I'll give you some thoughts.

Meshawn can't hold T.O.'s jock. Owens has all of the "over the middle" and pass blocking ability of Meshawn, however he is waaaaaay more of a threat down the sidelines and in the red zone.

It's apples and bowling balls :sopranos:

Seriously, Owens is going to change that offense. Bledsoe has always been pretty solid at the deep ball. I think this move is a master stroke by Dallas and vaults them into the top 5 or 6 offenses in the league. T.O. is going to draw double teams and Glenn and Witten are going to kill because of it. Teams absolutely cannot load 8 men in the box because there are very very few corners than can even battle Owens to a draw one-on-one.

And as far as a healthy McNabb, I remember seeing T.O. take a lot of short passes and make them long ones with his R.A.C. ability. He is a special player with the ball in his hands.

I really think Glenn is the sleeper now though. Witten is a great option as well. Those are the shark meat.

I agree that he is a real special player....I don't like him much, but is a huge talent. I'm just curious as to what people think, particularly Dallas homers. Keyshawn and TO are similar big WR (although TO's downfield threat is bigger) but even with his RAC, and Downfield threat he only managed 230 more yards than Keyshawn.

 

[Sheriff66]

He is a HUGE upgrade...Keyshawn doesn't break long TDs, TO can take it to the house on any given play.

 

[Sabertooth]

Thoughts???  You want thoughts??

I'll give you some thoughts.

Meshawn can't hold T.O.'s jock.  Owens has all of the "over the middle" and pass blocking ability of Meshawn, however he is waaaaaay more of a threat down the sidelines and in the red zone. 

It's apples and bowling balls :sopranos:

Seriously, Owens is going to change that offense.  Bledsoe has always been pretty solid at the deep ball.  I think this move is a master stroke by Dallas and vaults them into the top 5 or 6 offenses in the league.  T.O. is going to draw double teams and Glenn and Witten are going to kill because of it.  Teams absolutely cannot load 8 men in the box because there are very very few corners than can even battle Owens to a draw one-on-one. 

And as far as a healthy McNabb, I remember seeing T.O. take a lot of short passes and make them long ones with his R.A.C. ability.  He is a special player with the ball in his hands.

I really think Glenn is the sleeper now though.  Witten is a great option as well.  Those are the shark meat.

I agree that he is a real special player....I don't like him much, but is a huge talent. I'm just curious as to what people think, particularly Dallas homers. Keyshawn and TO are similar big WR (although TO's downfield threat is bigger) but even with his RAC, and Downfield threat he only managed 230 more yards than Keyshawn.

Think about that though....only 230 more yards and 6 touchdowns That's a 20% upgrade in yards and a Keyshawn has only score more than 6 touchdowns. He are the stats from 2004.

NAME YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST Owens: 2004 PHI 14 77 1200 15.6 59 14 51 2 1 Meshawn: 2004 DAL 16 70 981 14.0 39 6 53 1 1 Owens, in two less games had more yards by 219, more touchdowns by 8 and a better average by 1.6 yards. That may not seems like a lot of difference, but it's huge.

8 touchdowns alone is a solid fantasy backup guy. Think about Bettis last seaon (2004), he helped plenty of team solely on his ability to cross the stripe.

The difference is huge between these guys. Nobody fears Meshawn any more because even if he catches the ball, he's not going to take it to the house very often. Owens will absolutely kill after the catch and team have to be wary of him on every play. Worst case with Meshawn is him catching it and getting tackle after reaching the first down.

And speaking to that 1.6 yard difference in average. This is a 11% increase per catch. To put that into perspective, and 11% increase per game for Thomas Jones (undrafted in many leagues last year and certainly not in anybody's top 5) give him more rushing yards than Ladainian had last year. Couple that with 8 more touchdowns, and he's nipping at LT2 and Larry Johnson's heals for fantasy points. It's very significant.

 

[Sabertooth]

Thoughts???  You want thoughts??

I'll give you some thoughts.

Meshawn can't hold T.O.'s jock.  Owens has all of the "over the middle" and pass blocking ability of Meshawn, however he is waaaaaay more of a threat down the sidelines and in the red zone. 

Never seen TO or Key "pass block" before...tell me more? Terrell Owens is a huge upgrade over Keyshawn Johnson...makes Dallas an instant Super Bowl contender in 2006.

you know what I meant....

 

[thayman]

I'm not asking from a FF point of view. I know TO is a fantasty stud. And yes Owens was out for a few games that year, but football is about staying healthy.

I have just been wondering if TO is THAT much of an upgrade to just throw Dallas into the SB.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm not asking from a FF point of view. I know TO is a fantasty stud. And yes Owens was out for a few games that year, but football is about staying healthy.

I have just been wondering if TO is THAT much of an upgrade to just throw Dallas into the SB.

It will definitely (if he can keep his nose clean) throw them into the playoffs. A lot has to happen including: JJ, Bledsoe, and Terry Glenn, along with Witten and T.O. staying healthy (no gimme). Also the defense need to continue to improve. And they need some solid young pass rushers.

 

[BlueOnion]

T.O. is a huge upgrade, his downfield playmaking ability will force defenses to play a little softer underneath; almost inviting Parcells to ram it down a defense's throat.

 

[AmpLee]

To break this down in it's simplest terms...TO draws two.

Not much more needed to say. I think Dallas's run game is gonna benefit alot from TO. Parcells is going to have so much more options on offense it's gonna be downright scary.Obviously this is all contingent on TO playing out the year and not doing something stupid or getting injured.

As a Giants homer, I'm a little uneasy right now.

 

[hutchins929]

thats like asking is Jessica Simpson an upgrade to My Wife?

YES!!!!!

 

[BlueOnion]

thats like asking is Jessica Simpson an upgrade to My Wife?

YES!!!!!

You must not think very highly of your wife.

 

[Slider]

Lol, when has McNabb ever made a WR better? Bledsoe is way better at finding a WR than McNabb.

 

[BlueOnion]

Lol, when has McNabb ever made a WR better? Bledsoe is way better at finding a WR than McNabb.

What about Fred-Ex? Clearly this guy cannot even make an NFL roster, however he had become quite the story for one year in the playoffs. I guess it comes down to who you hate more; Fred-Ex or Donovan McNabb when deciding who to give credit for Fred-Ex's brief period of stardom.

 

[hutchins929]

thats like asking is Jessica Simpson an upgrade to My Wife?

YES!!!!!

You must not think very highly of your wife.

September 18, 1999 = worst day of my lifejust kidding, I love my wife. Simpson is dumb as a rock but their are about .00001% of the women in this world that are sexier than she.

 

[Gopher State]

thats like asking is Jessica Simpson an upgrade to My Wife?

YES!!!!!

 

[brownsman92]

he's a horse ####### mother####er with no feelings for others that queer