If the GOP has learned anything from Donald Trump, it's "when people call you out for lying, just tell a bigger lie and you'll be OK". We've got what, 7 GOP Senate candidates and 4 GOP candidates for Governor in PA? And every one of them insists that "we all know the 2020 election was stolen and we need to change the election laws". When they're called on it and asked for proof, they fall back on "Well, a large part of the population believes it and have lost faith in our system, so we need to do something". Gee, you think if candidates like you stopped feeding them lies they might stop believing it? Maybe that's the "something" you need to do. No, instead, let's complain because some guy actually dropped both his and his wife's ballots into the secured drop box and that proves the election was fraudulent. A county DA has actually had his office study thousands of hours of video and has determined that dozens of people (maybe even a hundred!) deposited two ballots in the drop box and has threatened to prosecute. What's next, maybe a door-to-door investigation of whether spouses failed to go into separate rooms to fill out their ballots in secret?These kinds of reports should anger all Americans but it doesn't faze DJT and his supporters. Instead they double down.
apalmer said:If the GOP has learned anything from Donald Trump, it's "when people call you out for lying, just tell a bigger lie and you'll be OK". We've got what, 7 GOP Senate candidates and 4 GOP candidates for Governor in PA? And every one of them insists that "we all know the 2020 election was stolen and we need to change the election laws". When they're called on it and asked for proof, they fall back on "Well, a large part of the population believes it and have lost faith in our system, so we need to do something". Gee, you think if candidates like you stopped feeding them lies they might stop believing it? Maybe that's the "something" you need to do. No, instead, let's complain because some guy actually dropped both his and his wife's ballots into the secured drop box and that proves the election was fraudulent. A county DA has actually had his office study thousands of hours of video and has determined that dozens of people (maybe even a hundred!) deposited two ballots in the drop box and has threatened to prosecute. What's next, maybe a door-to-door investigation of whether spouses failed to go into separate rooms to fill out their ballots in secret?
Daily Beast Article:
OAN Finally Admits ‘No Widespread Voter Fraud’ After Settling Defamation Suit
The right-wing cable network One America News Network on Monday ran a pre-recorded 30-second segment acknowledging that there was “no widespread voter fraud” by Georgia election workers in the 2020 presidential election.
The segment appears to be part of a recent settlement relating to a defamation lawsuit brought against the network by two such workers.
The segment notes that an investigation by state officials into unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud made by ex-President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani turned up nothing.
Biden’s new press secretary believes the 2016 presidential and 2018 Georgia Governors election were stolen. We’re at the point where every Presidential and swing state election will be questioned.The average Republican voter still believes there was widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election and this report will do nothing to change that. Trump has them completely hoodwinked.
Go to the 2000 mules thread for proof.
Biden’s new press secretary believes the 2016 presidential and 2018 Georgia Governors election were stolen. We’re at the point where every Presidential and swing state election will be questioned.
No because the extremists are winning. I’m afraid it’s going to get worse.This country is seriously messed up. Can one party put a decent candidate please?
She seems awfulBiden’s new press secretary believes the 2016 presidential and 2018 Georgia Governors election were stolen. We’re at the point where every Presidential and swing state election will be questioned.
And see what other fake news site also was involved in making the same false claim. KD's Gateway Pundit. Wonder if they had to kick in any cash in the settlement as well? Small wonder they make the list of least reliable sources.dozer said:Here’s the 30 second clip that One America News had to play as a result of the defamation lawsuit they lost because of all the lies about a “stolen election.”
I don't think this means what you think it means.Our new White House Spokesperson:
Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election .....welcome to the world of #unpresidented Trump
dozer said:Daily Beast Article:
OAN Finally Admits ‘No Widespread Voter Fraud’ After Settling Defamation Suit
The right-wing cable network One America News Network on Monday ran a pre-recorded 30-second segment acknowledging that there was “no widespread voter fraud” by Georgia election workers in the 2020 presidential election.
The segment appears to be part of a recent settlement relating to a defamation lawsuit brought against the network by two such workers.
The segment notes that an investigation by state officials into unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud made by ex-President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani turned up nothing.
Well help a brother out. What do you think it means?I don't think this means what you think it means.
She's repeating Trump, not stating that the election was stolen.Well help a brother out. What do you think it means?
I don't think Trump said that the 2016 election was stolen.She's repeating Trump, not stating that the election was stolen.
Prior to the election he was saying if he lost it would be because it was stolen from him, which is a little different.I don't think Trump said that the 2016 election was stolen.
TruePrior to the election he was saying if he lost it would be because it was stolen from him, which is a little different.
True again. Thank you for correcting me.The tweet is from December 2016. If she's parroting what someone else said, it's more likely to be Hillary than Trump. (Hillary, of course, was also more likely than Trump to have complained about stolen emails -- specifically the ones published by WikiLeaks. I don't know what the stolen drone was about.)
Yeah but what does the Gateway Pundit say?Far too little vote fraud to tip election to Trump, AP finds
I won't be satisfied until I hear from ILoveTrump.com.Yeah but what does the Gateway Pundit say?
And if they say there in no voter fraud then they are just deep state rinos tooI won't be satisfied until I hear from ILoveTrump.com.
Everything else is biased.
They just can't stop cheating. Then blame Dems without evidence. Such a shame what's happening in American politics. We used to demand better. Now we just care if our team wins.This MI GOP governor race sure is something
James Craig submitted 21,305 signatures, out of which 11,113 were deemed invalid 9,879 out of 11,113 invalid ones were straight up FRAUDULENT
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/05/23/james-craig-perry-johnson-filed-few-signatures-governor/9890480002/
That's unreal. But hey, you go and bang on doors in the Michigan hinterlands, trying to get GOP signatures. #MilitiaThis MI GOP governor race sure is something
James Craig submitted 21,305 signatures, out of which 11,113 were deemed invalid 9,879 out of 11,113 invalid ones were straight up FRAUDULENT
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/05/23/james-craig-perry-johnson-filed-few-signatures-governor/9890480002/
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-30/compton-city-council-election-overturned
I have stated repeatedly in voter fraud/ID threads that my biggest concern is local elections because a small number of votes can turn an election. The above illustrates this point.
Exactly. The premise that 2,000 or possibly 54,000 people could keep a secret is ridiculous.It also illustrates that point that a conspiracy of just a few people to commit voter fraud was foiled because someone couldn't keep quiet. To me that further diminishes the likelihood of this happening at large scale and being undetected.
Democrats are finally on the board....this aint over folks.
Finally? They were the first ones on the board!Democrats are finally on the board....this aint over folks.
Hell there was more GOP candidates (5) in Michigan getting caught forging signatures then this.4 illegal votes? That’s your proof the election was stolen?
There have been a lot more of these lone wolf fraudsters coming from Trump supporters.
Sorry....I don't pay a ton of attention to this stuff. I understand 3-4% of votes are rejected every single year because they were either invalid or fraudulent. I do come here for the stories that people rush here to prove that reality. The anecdotal stories that are presented are pretty comical. This was the first democratic one I saw. What was their first one? I thought they were getting shut out...my bad. Need to amend my comment to "Finally, the comeback is beginning!!!!" They have a ways to go though.BladeRunner said:Finally? They were the first ones on the board!
Thanks for posting. I hope she gets some jail time.BladeRunner said:
I understand 3-4% of votes are rejected every single year because they were either invalid or fraudulent.
Yeah, I don't know the breakdown inside that number....even if the 3-4% were all fraudulent, that is consistent year in and year out over the last 40ish years. My point was, if this were an actual concern or had meaningful impact, it wouldn't be showing up now all of a sudden. If we get significantly outside that range at 7-8%, you might get a second look from me. This whole voter fraud thing is some of the dumbest theater going these days.The Heritage Foundation concluded that something like 0.0000004% of votes are fraudulent.
The ~3% of mail-in votes that are rejected are generally because they weren't signed, or the signature didn't look similar enough to the one on file, or the postmark was after the due date, or the wrong return envelope was used... None of that is generally indicative of fraud.