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How to address possibility of missed 2011 season (1 Viewer)

Plaid Boxer

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I’m interested to see what rules, if any, Commissioners have implemented in a contract league with the possibility that the 2011 NFL season is not played. Are you planning on taking a year off every player’s contract if the 2011 season does not happen? How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.

I’d like to get something added to our rules before the 2010 season begins and figured someone here would have some good input.

 
I’m interested to see what rules, if any, Commissioners have implemented in a contract league with the possibility that the 2011 NFL season is not played. Are you planning on taking a year off every player’s contract if the 2011 season does not happen? How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order. I’d like to get something added to our rules before the 2010 season begins and figured someone here would have some good input.
I would more than likely give each owner an opportunity to either take a year off the contract or keep it the same on a per player basis. I can't justify penalizing someone a year on someone old like Thomas Jones but I don't feel I should take a year from someone like Rashard Mendenhall.
 
I’m interested to see what rules, if any, Commissioners have implemented in a contract league with the possibility that the 2011 NFL season is not played. Are you planning on taking a year off every player’s contract if the 2011 season does not happen? How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order. I’d like to get something added to our rules before the 2010 season begins and figured someone here would have some good input.
I don't know that it matters. If they do skip the season, I would think the majority of dynasty leagues would fold.
 
If the whole season is missed, I could see folding, odds are that there is some footbal, heck maybe even a complete 16 game schedule.

Im more worried about 2010 though,

 
I’m interested to see what rules, if any, Commissioners have implemented in a contract league with the possibility that the 2011 NFL season is not played. Are you planning on taking a year off every player’s contract if the 2011 season does not happen? How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.

I’d like to get something added to our rules before the 2010 season begins and figured someone here would have some good input.
I don't know that it matters. If they do skip the season, I would think the majority of dynasty leagues would fold.
Sounds like you need to find some new leagues. I don't think my leagues would fold. As far as how I would hande it as commish, it depends on how the NFL/owners handle it. If they bring in replacement players, I could see using those players (while protecting all current players on the fantasy roster.

 
How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.
How so? Can't imagine anything more fair than that.
We have a toilet bowl where the winner gets the #1 pick. That team isn't necessarily the worst team in the league to begin with and now between the end of the 2010 season and the NFL starting up again in 2012(in this doomsday scenario) they get the #1 pick in two drafts. I'm just not sure that will go over well.
 
How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.
How so? Can't imagine anything more fair than that.
We have a toilet bowl where the winner gets the #1 pick. That team isn't necessarily the worst team in the league to begin with and now between the end of the 2010 season and the NFL starting up again in 2012(in this doomsday scenario) they get the #1 pick in two drafts. I'm just not sure that will go over well.
The NHL missed a full season, and had the same draft order problem.
2005 NHL Entry Draft

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2005 NHL Entry Draft 2005 NHL Entry Draft

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

July 30-31, 2005

The 2005 NHL Entry Draft was the 43rd NHL Entry Draft.

As a lockout cancelled the 2004–05 NHL season, the draft order was determined by lottery on July 22, 2005. Teams were assigned 1 to 3 balls based on their playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the past three years. According to the draft order, the selection worked its way up to 30 as usual; then instead of repeating the order as in past years, the draft "snaked" back down to the team with the first pick. Therefore the team with the first pick overall would not pick again until the 60th pick. The team with the 30th pick would also get the 31st pick. The draft was only seven rounds in length, compared to nine rounds in years past. The labor dispute caused the shortened draft.

The Pittsburgh Penguins won the draft lottery and, as expected, selected Sidney Crosby. The lottery associated with the draft has colloquially been referred to as the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes.
So a lottery then serpentine.
 
I'm working on my 2011 draft board. So far my top 5 are

1. Maurice Clarett

2. Michael Bishop

3. Chris Perry

4. Freddie Mitchell

5. Eric Crouch

:no:

 
The NHL missed a full season, and had the same draft order problem.

2005 NHL Entry Draft

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2005 NHL Entry Draft 2005 NHL Entry Draft

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

July 30-31, 2005

The 2005 NHL Entry Draft was the 43rd NHL Entry Draft.

As a lockout cancelled the 2004–05 NHL season, the draft order was determined by lottery on July 22, 2005. Teams were assigned 1 to 3 balls based on their playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the past three years. According to the draft order, the selection worked its way up to 30 as usual; then instead of repeating the order as in past years, the draft "snaked" back down to the team with the first pick. Therefore the team with the first pick overall would not pick again until the 60th pick. The team with the 30th pick would also get the 31st pick. The draft was only seven rounds in length, compared to nine rounds in years past. The labor dispute caused the shortened draft.

The Pittsburgh Penguins won the draft lottery and, as expected, selected Sidney Crosby. The lottery associated with the draft has colloquially been referred to as the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes.
So a lottery then serpentine.
What do we think this part means: "Teams were assigned 1 to 3 balls based on their playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the past three years."?

Every team started with 3 balls, and for each year they made the playoffs, they lost a ball? If the team had had a #1 overall pick, they lost a ball (but if they had the #2 overall, they didn't lose a ball?)? What if a team entered the lottery with all 3 balls, and they were chosen twice in the top 5 or 10 balls? Does that team then get two top-10 picks?

I've always been intrigued by lottery as a method for determining draft order...just not sure how the above described process would work without more info...



 
The NHL missed a full season, and had the same draft order problem.

2005 NHL Entry Draft

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2005 NHL Entry Draft 2005 NHL Entry Draft

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

July 30-31, 2005

The 2005 NHL Entry Draft was the 43rd NHL Entry Draft.

As a lockout cancelled the 2004–05 NHL season, the draft order was determined by lottery on July 22, 2005. Teams were assigned 1 to 3 balls based on their playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the past three years. According to the draft order, the selection worked its way up to 30 as usual; then instead of repeating the order as in past years, the draft "snaked" back down to the team with the first pick. Therefore the team with the first pick overall would not pick again until the 60th pick. The team with the 30th pick would also get the 31st pick. The draft was only seven rounds in length, compared to nine rounds in years past. The labor dispute caused the shortened draft.

The Pittsburgh Penguins won the draft lottery and, as expected, selected Sidney Crosby. The lottery associated with the draft has colloquially been referred to as the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes.
So a lottery then serpentine.
What do we think this part means: "Teams were assigned 1 to 3 balls based on their playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the past three years."?

Every team started with 3 balls, and for each year they made the playoffs, they lost a ball? If the team had had a #1 overall pick, they lost a ball (but if they had the #2 overall, they didn't lose a ball?)? What if a team entered the lottery with all 3 balls, and they were chosen twice in the top 5 or 10 balls? Does that team then get two top-10 picks?

I've always been intrigued by lottery as a method for determining draft order...just not sure how the above described process would work without more info...
From here: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26401
The Draft Drawing, a weighted lottery system, was used to determine the order of selection for all seven rounds of the Entry Draft. Under the weighted lottery system, the clubs that neither qualified for the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of the 2001-02, 2002-03 and 2003-04 seasons, nor were awarded the first overall selection in each of the 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 Entry Drafts, had the greatest chance of receiving the first overall selection, 6.3 per cent. These clubs were the Penguins, Buffalo Sabres, Columbus Blue Jackets and New York Rangers.

Ten clubs met one of the seven criteria listed above and had a 4.2% chance of winning the Drawing, while the remaining 16 clubs met more than one of the criteria and had a 2.1% chance.

Forty-eight balls, numbered one through 48, were placed in a lottery machine. Three ball numbers were randomly assigned to each the Penguins, Sabres, Blue Jackets and Rangers; two ball numbers were assigned to the 10 clubs with a 4.2% chance; and one ball number was assigned to the 16 clubs with a 2.1% chance. The first ball expelled determined the winner of the first overall draft pick and it had been assigned to the Penguins.

After the first overall selection was awarded, another ball was expelled to determine which club, from among the 29 remaining, received the second overall pick. This process was continued until each of the 30 first-round draft positions was assigned.
 
How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.
How so? Can't imagine anything more fair than that.
We have a toilet bowl where the winner gets the #1 pick. That team isn't necessarily the worst team in the league to begin with and now between the end of the 2010 season and the NFL starting up again in 2012(in this doomsday scenario) they get the #1 pick in two drafts. I'm just not sure that will go over well.
Maybe the order of the second draft could be based on the franchises' historical success. For example, for the 1st round whoever had the most championships would draft last and whoever had the most total losses since the league started would draft first. Then serpentine.
 
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Topes said:
Plaid Boxer said:
How are you addressing the 2012 draft order in your leagues? It seems unfair to use the 2011 draft order.
How so? Can't imagine anything more fair than that.
We have a toilet bowl where the winner gets the #1 pick. That team isn't necessarily the worst team in the league to begin with and now between the end of the 2010 season and the NFL starting up again in 2012(in this doomsday scenario) they get the #1 pick in two drafts. I'm just not sure that will go over well.
Gotcha. I'm brain dead. I hadn't yet gotten my thinking toque around the fact that a lost season happens after the dynasty draft. Carry on. Nothing to see here, but a babbling goon.
 

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