How to tell if you drafted an awesome or crappy team: (1 Viewer)

[rickyg]

Just look at your league hosting site for "draft grades". For instance, yahoo graded my draft last night as c+ and says in predicted to have a 4-9 regular season. This is music to my ears. They are always so dead wrong! Lol.

Same goes for the rate my team feature on fbg. When you have Brady or Ryan it tells you you are weak at qb. Bah humbug!

If any of those automated rate my team services tell you your team will suck you should do the dance of joy. If they tell you your team looks awesome, that's reason to sulk BC you will probably suck. Lol

 

[False Start]

Just look at your league hosting site for "draft grades". For instance, yahoo graded my draft last night as c+ and says in predicted to have a 4-9 regular season. This is music to my ears. They are always so dead wrong! Lol.

Same goes for the rate my team feature on fbg. When you have Brady or Ryan it tells you you are weak at qb. Bag humbug!

If any of those automated rate my team services tell you your team will suck you should do the dance of joy. If they tell you your team looks awesome, that's reason to sulk BC you will probably suck. Lol

I'm all over Brady as if I was Giselle.

I believe he is gonna be the #4 or #5 scoring QB this year. Yahoo doesnt agree and as you said, that is a good thing.

 

[rickyg]

Just look at your league hosting site for "draft grades". For instance, yahoo graded my draft last night as c+ and says in predicted to have a 4-9 regular season. This is music to my ears. They are always so dead wrong! Lol.

Same goes for the rate my team feature on fbg. When you have Brady or Ryan it tells you you are weak at qb. Bag humbug!

If any of those automated rate my team services tell you your team will suck you should do the dance of joy. If they tell you your team looks awesome, that's reason to sulk BC you will probably suck. Lol

I'm all over Brady as if I was Giselle.

I believe he is gonna be the #4 or #5 scoring QB this year. Yahoo doesnt agree and as you said, that is a good thing.

Trudat on Brady. Took him in the 6th rd after loading up on studs at other positions in the 1st give rounds. Couldn't be happier. But the automated rate my team services hate that pick. So dumb. He's going to be a top 5 qb again this year if his weapons can stay healthy.

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Well damn. I've had 2 yahoo drafts and gotten best draft and an A in both leagues. I might as well just quit now since I have no chance :(

 

[Spanky24]

Just entered a team into the FBG rate my team and I have Andrew Luck as my QB.

It didn't like it and said it was a weak position for my team

 

[VA703]

the adp on most of those sites are terrible.. which is great if you're doing an online draft with a buncha gups

 

[rickyg]

Well damn. I've had 2 yahoo drafts and gotten best draft and an A in both leagues. I might as well just quit now since I have no chance :(

Quick pull off some trades! Lol. Those grades mean nothing. It's just been my experience that every time I've gotten a high grade my team has sucked and vice versa.

 

[rickyg]

Just entered a team into the FBG rate my team and I have Andrew Luck as my QB.

It didn't like it and said it was a weak position for my team

Right...totally ridiculous, right? So if you don't have manning, Brees or Rodgers you are weak at qb. Got it.

 

[False Start]

Just look at your league hosting site for "draft grades". For instance, yahoo graded my draft last night as c+ and says in predicted to have a 4-9 regular season. This is music to my ears. They are always so dead wrong! Lol.

Same goes for the rate my team feature on fbg. When you have Brady or Ryan it tells you you are weak at qb. Bag humbug!

If any of those automated rate my team services tell you your team will suck you should do the dance of joy. If they tell you your team looks awesome, that's reason to sulk BC you will probably suck. Lol

I'm all over Brady as if I was Giselle.

I believe he is gonna be the #4 or #5 scoring QB this year. Yahoo doesnt agree and as you said, that is a good thing.

Trudat on Brady. Took him in the 6th rd after loading up on studs at other positions in the 1st give rounds. Couldn't be happier. But the automated rate my team services hate that pick. So dumb. He's going to be a top 5 qb again this year if his weapons can stay healthy.

This is going to sound bad... In a 6 point for all TDs in a TD heavy non PPR (yards and scores are all that matters) when Manning, Brees, Rodgers and Stafford went 1 through 4.... I took Brady at 7. It was a situation where I have to take a guy I think can produce 35+ and 4200+ pretty confidently and safely in a QB weighted league, I believe he can put up those numbers so he was well worth the pick as he would not have made it back around to me int he second knowing what I know about my league.

I have never used others rankings to do my own. I do mine from scratch so its not tilted by other opinion and everytime I did them Brady came up as a #5 QB behind Manning, Brees, Rodgers and Stafford. Luck was 6th after him and then there was a huge drop off in my eyes from possible elite production. The place you draft players depends on the league you are in. Obviously typical ADP does not apply to this league. I still ended up with a top team in my eyes and ended up getting a B in that league and an A- in my other yahoo league. Means nothing.

 

[first round bust]

I only have one team this year and my Yahoo draft grade was a C and my projected win-loss was 0-13. I'm not exactly sure how that's possible because I saw that I was favored in Week 2 based on projected points. They told me my Percy Harvin pick was the lowest value worst pick of the 3rd round, which I scoffed at as I think that's my biggest edge in the draft by far. The Yahoo draft grade is about as valuable as a piece of dog crap laying on the sidewalk that you try to avoid stepping on. My opinion is that you usually won't really know if you drafted a good or crappy team until at least a week is in the books. I tend to think the key is to try to evaluate players without focusing too much on the stats.

 

[rickyg]

I only have one team this year and my Yahoo draft grade was a C and my projected win-loss was 0-13. I'm not exactly sure how that's possible because I saw that I was favored in Week 2 based on projected points. They told me my Percy Harvin pick was the lowest value worst pick of the 3rd round, which I scoffed at as I think that's my biggest edge in the draft by far. The Yahoo draft grade is about as valuable as a piece of dog crap laying on the sidewalk that you try to avoid stepping on. My opinion is that you usually won't really know if you drafted a good or crappy team until at least a week is in the books. I tend to think the key is to try to evaluate players without focusing too much on the stats.

Totally agree. And harvin is going to be a difference maker this year. I was sad to miss out on him in my draft last night.

 

[ponchsox]

lol Yahoo gave me a C- and said I was asleep during the draft while Dodds says I have a 99% chance of making the playoffs using rate my team. These are always good for lulz.

 

[False Start]

I wonder what grade Yahoo gave people who drafted Julius Thomas this time last year? No doubt the Yahoo projections made it look like he was not going to have the season he did.

 

[Warpig]

I just finished 2 mocks at fantasypros.

The first one I set up as a 12 tm ppr with 1qb/2rb/2wr/1te/1flex/1dst/1pk with 5 bench slots. I picked from the 6 slot. My roster for that mock consisted of the following:

QB - Stafford, Wilson

RB - Lacy, L Bell, J-Stew

WR - Edelman, Colston, Shorts, K Benjamin, H Nicks

TE - Jordan Cameron, Kyle Rudolph

DST - Chiefs

K - Freese

The site had me rated 12 out of 12 for starters, 11 out of 12 for bench, and 12 out of 12 for overall team. LOL!

The second mock I did I set up as a 14 tm ppr with same roster requirements as above. I picked out of the 8 hole for that one. Here is the roster I ended up with:

QB - Brady, Rivers

RB - Lacy, Mathews, S-Jax

WR - Jordy, Garcon, Wallace, Nicks, Stills

TE - Clay, Cook

DST - Ravens

K - Zuerlein

It had me ranked 9th out of 14 teams in that one. I'm a little more concerned with that team since they rated me a little higher. LOL!

 

[Peyton Marino]

great info, rick

 

[MattFancy]

I wonder what grade Yahoo gave people who drafted Julius Thomas this time last year? No doubt the Yahoo projections made it look like he was not going to have the season he did.

Yahoo told me I reached by taking Joquie Bell in the 5th round. Said he was taken too high at #60 overall and his ADP is 98. I want to play in those leagues.

 

[MattFancy]

I just finished 2 mocks at fantasypros.

The first one I set up as a 12 tm ppr with 1qb/2rb/2wr/1te/1flex/1dst/1pk with 5 bench slots. I picked from the 6 slot. My roster for that mock consisted of the following:

QB - Stafford, Wilson

RB - Lacy, L Bell, J-Stew

WR - Edelman, Colston, Shorts, K Benjamin, H Nicks

TE - Jordan Cameron, Kyle Rudolph

DST - Chiefs

K - Freese

The site had me rated 12 out of 12 for starters, 11 out of 12 for bench, and 12 out of 12 for overall team. LOL!

The second mock I did I set up as a 14 tm ppr with same roster requirements as above. I picked out of the 8 hole for that one. Here is the roster I ended up with:

QB - Brady, Rivers

RB - Lacy, Mathews, S-Jax

WR - Jordy, Garcon, Wallace, Nicks, Stills

TE - Clay, Cook

DST - Ravens

K - Zuerlein

It had me ranked 9th out of 14 teams in that one. I'm a little more concerned with that team since they rated me a little higher. LOL!

That 12-team one you drafted is horrible. Edleman as your WR1? Your WRs are pretty weak. The 14-team one is better and you definitely look better than the 9th best in that one.

 

[False Start]

I wonder what grade Yahoo gave people who drafted Julius Thomas this time last year? No doubt the Yahoo projections made it look like he was not going to have the season he did.

Yahoo told me I reached by taking Joquie Bell in the 5th round. Said he was taken too high at #60 overall and his ADP is 98. I want to play in those leagues.

ADP is so subjective, as I said above. Your league scoring and other owners dictate how you have to draft. ADP before real drafts is all chalk anyways.

 

[MattFancy]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

 

[False Start]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

What it is are talking heads just saying stuff. Then those same talking heads programming generated responses for all situations. You see a lot of team are told the same thing.

Things to keep us interested and giving websites clicks I guess.

 

[MattFancy]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

What it is are talking heads just saying stuff. Then those same talking heads programming generated responses for all situations. You see a lot of team are told the same thing.

Things to keep us interested and giving websites clicks I guess.

I still think it's a pretty useful tool, just seems to contradict itself sometimes, especially on QBs.

 

[rickyg]

great info, rick

Lol hey man, not every post can emit greatness. Some are just good fun.

 

[solorca]

The scores on these sites are based solely on how your picks allign with the people who rank. Many years ago, when I used FBGs to pretty much create my draft list for me, I was given the "virtual lock to make the playoffs" grade every time. Now that I create my own rankings, I rarely get better than an 85% chance, but my teams tend to be much more solid.

I'm sure it's pretty much the same for the other sites.

 

[Warpig]

what I liked about the fantasypros mocks, you could choose between "basic" knowledge of your competitors, or "advanced"! In this particular league they are all certainly "basic"! LOL!

 

[Skoo]

I rated a mock in which I took Brady AND Romo, and yes, footballguys said my team's weakness was QB.

 

[jurrassic]

What I love is how the FBG "Perfect Draft" tells you to wait on qb and then when you do the "Rate Your Team" application tells you that you are weak at qb. Talk about covering your bases.

 

[Leonidas]

Agree on Brady. I have him in 2/5 leagues, Yahoo isn't big on him and the FBG rate my team thing has him as QB12 and says I have a weakness at QB while recommending a backup on the bench. lol, I don't think so

PS: Edleman, Colston, and Shorts as your top 3 WR's in a 12 man is not good

 

[TheCommish]

I rated a mock in which I took Brady AND Romo, and yes, footballguys said my team's weakness was QB.

Same goes for Matt Ryan and Tony Romo. FBG Rate My Team doesn't like it.

 

[John 14:6]

I just check the results at the end of the year...

 

[Bucky86]

I'll tell you week 6.

 

[Bucky86]

I rated a mock in which I took Brady AND Romo, and yes, footballguys said my team's weakness was QB.

Same goes for Matt Ryan and Tony Romo. FBG Rate My Team doesn't like it.

The FBG rate my team always ####s on my team. Funny thing is last year I used their rankings to draft. Still made the SB and they said I had to work the waivers in order to strengthen my team.

 

[Anarchy99]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

Unless you have one of the Top 3 QBs, you really won't have an advantage at QB. Beyond them, there are a lot of QBs that could score very similarly over the course of a season. The rest of the Top 5 could be any two of Luck, Brady, Newton, RG3, Rivers, Cutler, Stafford, Romo, and probably a couple others. Bottom line, there could be very little difference in QBs 4-14 this year. In the end of year rankings, there will probably be a tier in spots 4-8 that are within 1 point per game and then another tier of a half dozen guys within a point per game of each other. The point being, there is not a lot separating the QBs.

I have noticed that the Rate My Team app puts too much weight on the rankings and not enough weight on the actual projections. Whatever formula is used to determine playoff worthiness, it seems to really accentuate the starters (ie RB1 and WR1) more than other areas. IMO, drafting the #13, 15, and 17 WR should score similar to drafting WRs 6, 22, and 34. But the first team will get chided for not having a true WR1.

It's all for entertainment value, as I have drafted teams that got so so ratings and won and had locks or 99% ratings and missed the playoffs. (Last year I had 13 of 18 draft picks miss a ton of time or go on IR, but the Rate My Team tool can't help you avoid injuries.)

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

ive had lousy looking team win, and great looking teams scrub out.

battle is only hald done, tons of trades waiver wires etc to be made

 

[VikingFrog]

At least yahoo told me "As you know, the "C" is short for "Championship"."

 

[Adam Harstad]

What I love is how the FBG "Perfect Draft" tells you to wait on qb and then when you do the "Rate Your Team" application tells you that you are weak at qb. Talk about covering your bases.

If you wait on a position, you're going to be weak at it. It's just that it's a lot easier to overcome a weakness at QB than it is at RB or WR, so if you're going to be weak somewhere, that's where you want it to be.

 

[OU#1]

CBS rated my team last in the league. I drafted best avaliable with DD. It also said I reached for McCoy with the #2 pick, since I drafted him 26 spots ahead of their projections. Phayle!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Just entered a team into the FBG rate my team and I have Andrew Luck as my QB.

It didn't like it and said it was a weak position for my team

The thing is, if FBGs has Luck rated as the 7th QB and Brady as the 8th, they are going to say you are weak at QB since you will be ate disadvantage at the position in over half your games (assuming the top 6 QBs were drafted). That makes sense spans its not really outrageous to rank Luck or Brady outside of the top 6.

 

[ZWK]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

If you don't have a top 3 QB then you are below average at QB. Last year's top 12 QBs averaged 353 points for the season. QB4 (Stafford) scored 348 points. Less than the average. That happened because it's a stud's game: Manning & Brees accounted for more than half of the QB VBD.

Looking forward to this year it's even worse, because no one outside the top 3 has that great a chance to finish in the top 5 QBs. Luck has a decent shot at it, Stafford has a decent shot at it, Brady has a decent shot at it it, and so do about 10 other guys.

 

[ponchsox]

I do agree with others about Rate-My-Team being off. I did a mock yesterday and it told me my WRs were weak as a whole, yet when it went into an individual breakdown on each one, it talked about how they were all great values and good WR2, WR3 and WR4. So how could I have no depth, yet be complimented on the players?

QBs are definitely off on there. I haven't had it say it likes my QB unless I grab Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Then it always says that Dodds advocates waiting on QBs, but I should've taken one sooner. So which is it?

If you don't have a top 3 QB then you are below average at QB. Last year's top 12 QBs averaged 353 points for the season. QB4 (Stafford) scored 348 points. Less than the average. That happened because it's a stud's game: Manning & Brees accounted for more than half of the QB VBD.Looking forward to this year it's even worse, because no one outside the top 3 has that great a chance to finish in the top 5 QBs. Luck has a decent shot at it, Stafford has a decent shot at it, Brady has a decent shot at it it, and so do about 10 other guys.

That's fine and all, but I'll take my shot with Brady or Ryan and stud RBs vs someone with Brees and garbage at RB or WR.

 

[Anarchy99]

That's fine and all, but I'll take my shot with Brady or Ryan and stud RBs vs someone with Brees and garbage at RB or WR.

Not to start a holy war or anything, but I am always amazed at the logic in stuff like this. The comparison should be ONLY the following: The stud RB/WR + the later round QB vs. the early stud QB + the later round RB or WR. ALL THE OTHER PICKS WOULD BE THE SAME.

I have never figured out how taking a QB early suddenly means all the RB and WR on a roster will be garbage . . . as if one pick poisoned the entire roster. And conversely, that taking an early round stud RB or WR means that the rest of the RB and WR corps will all be studly, won't get hurt, and cannot bust.

Unless, of course, that the logic is by taking a QB early, almost by definition, a drafter will automatically whiff on every remaining draft pick.

 

[Jrodicus]

Here's my starting lineup for one of my keeper teams:

Romo/Ryan

Martin, Bell

Julio, Dez, Cruz

Julius Thomas

2 Flex - Patterson, Gio, Jeremy Hill, Justin Hunter, Olsen

Yahoo gave me an A+. All 4 rankers for Rate My Team said I was weak at QB, but each gave me 85-90% chance of making the playoffs with good management.

I guess I'm bound for the toilet bowl....

 

[Sarlakticacid]

If the majority of your players are on the field for some time tonight i would lean toward the crappy end of the scale

 

[Fariq]

Last time I played at Yahoo, my team was predicted to go 0-14.

My team went 10-4 and lost the title game.

 

[bucsbaby]

Yahoo just continues to be laughable. Here are samples of their self-contradicting analysis of my draft from last night (start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WR/TE, K, DST; PPR):

Team X does know this is "football" not "fútbol", right? Either way they turned the second overall pick into an easy win for the rest of the league, as they are projected to finish ninth in X League with a record of 5-8-0. With three TEs on the roster, Team X surprisingly loaded up at that position during the draft, and might be looking to make a trade. They put together the worst group of WRs in the leagueMy two stud TEs have the same bye week, week 4...

Oh, and their further comments on my "worst group of WRs in the league", which includes Jordy Nelson?

Draft Notes

• Highlight ReelRB is the strongest position for Team X, but TE and WR are also stronger than the league average at those positions.
  

• Team of ChampionsTeam X is rocking a team of fantasy MVPs. Last season, three of their players were among the top-20 players that were on the most first-place fantasy teams (Jamaal Charles, Jordy Nelson, and Julius Thomas).
  

Ok, so my TE and WR are stronger than the league average, and my RBs are better still -- which comprises 2/3 of my starting roster -- yet I'm projected to finish in the bottom 25% of the league... ooooooooooooooookay then... nice math, Yahoo!

 

[snore]

Just entered a team into the FBG rate my team and I have Andrew Luck as my QB.

It didn't like it and said it was a weak position for my team

Right...totally ridiculous, right? So if you don't have manning, Brees or Rodgers you are weak at qb. Got it.

I have rodgers but no backup yet and it said I was weak at qb. I chuckled.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Right...totally ridiculous, right? So if you don't have manning, Brees or Rodgers you are weak at qb. Got it.

If you don't have one of the big three then you ARE weak at QB.

 

[Widbil83]

I was picked to finish 11th out of 12 by the grading site for my team in the FPC last year. Scored the most points in the league and was #1 seed. Have similar stories in the past. Bottom line nobody has a crystal ball or knows what the hell will happen. So don't get caught up in these things.

 

[PatsWillWin]

This one time, a website projected my something to do something, but it actually ended up doing something else. STUPID WEBSITE!

 

[rickyg]

Here's my starting lineup for one of my keeper teams:

Romo/Ryan

Martin, Bell

Julio, Dez, Cruz

Julius Thomas

2 Flex - Patterson, Gio, Jeremy Hill, Justin Hunter, Olsen

Yahoo gave me an A+. All 4 rankers for Rate My Team said I was weak at QB, but each gave me 85-90% chance of making the playoffs with good management.

I guess I'm bound for the toilet bowl....

Oh you're screwed bro. Mail it in. Lol

 

[Ilov80s]

Here's my starting lineup for one of my keeper teams:

Romo/Ryan

Martin, Bell

Julio, Dez, Cruz

Julius Thomas

2 Flex - Patterson, Gio, Jeremy Hill, Justin Hunter, Olsen

Yahoo gave me an A+. All 4 rankers for Rate My Team said I was weak at QB, but each gave me 85-90% chance of making the playoffs with good management.

I guess I'm bound for the toilet bowl....

How does the other guy's team look?