How you can "own" a piece of profootballreference (1 Viewer)

[Doug Drinen]

As many of you know, I run a football statistics site called pro-football-reference. It has an older brother called baseball-reference.com and if you're a regular user of baseball-reference.com, you know that they have been generating revenue for the last few years by allowing users to "sponsor" pages on their site.

Some of the pages are sponsored by companies and it's basically just regular advertising. But most of pages that are sponsored are sponsored by fans of the team or player. For example, see Derrek Lee, Kerry Wood, or Jason Wood's favorite player.

Anyway, pro-football-reference is now plugged into the same system, so you can sponsor pages at p-f-r just the same way. If you're interested, go here for info on how to set up your account.

For footballguys customers (for a limited time), I'm offering a special deal: for every dollar you put into a sponsorship account, I'll match it with 3 more dollars. You put in $5, I'll put an extra $15 into your account, so you can sponsor $20 worth of pages. You put in $20, you can sponsor, $80 worth of pages, and so on.

All profits (after my ever-escalating server costs are paid) go to charity.

If you want to kick in, go set up your account and then send me an email letting me know you've done so. Then I'll add the virtual cash to your account.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Why are there no USFL stats? It should be NFL-reference.com. But you probably can't use NFL.

 

[Jason Wood]

Great idea Doug Needless to say, I'm proudly sponsoring the Birds [at least a portion of the Birds]

 

[-OZ-]

For footballguys customers (for a limited time), I'm offering a special deal: for every dollar you put into a sponsorship account, I'll match it with 3 more dollars. You put in $5, I'll put an extra $15 into your account, so you can sponsor $20 worth of pages. You put in $20, you can sponsor, $80 worth of pages, and so on.

If we give enough can we use the extra $ for our FBG subscription?

And just think, we can sponsor such useful info as:

Ben Roethlisberger is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.

j/k - love the site.

 

[Kleck.]

Great Idea.Two donations made, $5 and $10.

 

[Kleck.]

Sponsoring the 1996 Green Bay Packers page.

 

[Doug Drinen]

Sponsoring the 1996 Green Bay Packers page.

Thanks for the support By the way, the database updates every four hours, so your message should appear in four hours or less.

 

[Don Quixote]

Sponsoring Harry Carson. Sweet.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Hey Doug, can you add Ralph Baker to profootballreference? All-Pro linebacker for the Jets in the 60's/70's.

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/04570028

 

[Demons]

How much do the pages cost, and how long does the sponsorship last?

 

[Kleck.]

How much do the pages cost, and how long does the sponsorship last?

They all vary. 1 year.

 

[Autumn Wind]

I will have to get on this. PFR is easily one of the best pages out there, and I reference it all the time.

 

[BassNBrew]

As many of you know, I run a football statistics site called pro-football-reference. It has an older brother called baseball-reference.com and if you're a regular user of baseball-reference.com, you know that they have been generating revenue for the last few years by allowing users to "sponsor" pages on their site.

Some of the pages are sponsored by companies and it's basically just regular advertising. But most of pages that are sponsored are sponsored by fans of the team or player. For example, see Derrek Lee, Kerry Wood, or Jason Wood's favorite player.

Anyway, pro-football-reference is now plugged into the same system, so you can sponsor pages at p-f-r just the same way. If you're interested, go here for info on how to set up your account.

For footballguys customers (for a limited time), I'm offering a special deal: for every dollar you put into a sponsorship account, I'll match it with 3 more dollars. You put in $5, I'll put an extra $15 into your account, so you can sponsor $20 worth of pages. You put in $20, you can sponsor, $80 worth of pages, and so on.

All profits (after my ever-escalating server costs are paid) go to charity.

If you want to kick in, go set up your account and then send me an email letting me know you've done so. Then I'll add the virtual cash to your account.

Can you give me some idea of the number of hits expected per page? For instance a middle of the road player and team page. I'm trying to pitch buying a significant number of pages but need additional ammo beyond the overall ff market.

 

[BassNBrew]

Also, do sponsors get first dibs to renew each year?

 

[iSnitch]

So you want me to fork money over to keep your operation afloat? Hey, I like it but I don't like it that much. Best of luck though.

 

[Doug Drinen]

Can you give me some idea of the number of hits expected per page? For instance a middle of the road player and team page. I'm trying to pitch buying a significant number of pages but need additional ammo beyond the overall ff market.

The rates are set at roughly $2.50 per thousand page views, but you'd be getting a deep discount with the special deal. If you want more specifics on a particular page, I'll look into it.And yes, whatever page you sponsor, you'll have dibs on re-upping it every year, although the price could be different. You'll get a reminder email when it's about to expire.

Thanks for considering it, and let me know if I can answer any more questions.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

What Charity?

 

[Doug Drinen]

What Charity?

From the site:

First let me state that I have absolutely nothing against profit, capitalism, or anyone who wishes to sell ads at their site and keep the money. In fact, this site might not exist today without support from sites that do just that. This site has been almost completely ad-free since its inception, but that's not because I have an objection to ads in general. If tastefully done, ads don't hurt anyone. In fact, they help advertisers (as evidenced by the fact that advertisers are willing to pay for them) and consumers (by introducing them to products/services they might be interested in puchasing). But I kept the site ad-free because I have a strong aversion to hassle and stress, and I did not want to turn my pleasant hobby into a generator of hassle and stress, as so often happens when you start taking people's money in exchange for goods and services.

Like most people, I've always had a vague general sense that people should use their time and talents to help people and support good causes. Also like a lot of people, I have allowed that vague general sense to remain too vague and general. My time and talent (such as they are) have created a site with a small amount of revenue-generating potential, and for several years now I've had it in the back of my mind that I ought to use that time, talent, and effort (which I'm using anyway) to help out a good cause. When I learned that some good friends of mine were starting a new charitable foundation, I decided to finally put the plan into action.

There are many worthy charities out there, of course, and I will not attempt to convince you that any is more worthy than the others, but my charity of choice is the Tulsa Autism Foundation Fund. Although I am no longer there, Tulsa is my hometown and, for lack of a more eloquent explanation, I just love the place. Although I do not have any family members with Autism, I do have some personal reasons for wanting to support families who are dealing with it. Finally, as mentioned above, the Tulsa Autism Foundation Fund is new and was started by some close friends of my family. I'd like to see it succeed because I personally know people who are working hard to make that happen, and I personally know people who will benefit when it does.

 

[Righetti]

I'll sponsor Derek Jeterit's only right

 

[KKrew]

Doug - Great idea!Folks - Think about it! For you college alums - Consider sponsoring players that graduated (errr played for) your school! (Marcel Shipp is mine!)

 

[Doug Drinen]

bump.The Tatum Bell page is still available, SSOG.GRID, you can still get Wannstedt.

 

[Bob Magaw]

So you want me to fork money over to keep your operation afloat? Hey, I like it but I don't like it that much. Best of luck though.

this FFA shtick is working for you in the shark pool... but it isn't.

 

[-OZ-]

Looking through the site, there's two pages I'd consider sponsoring, but they add up to $25. Can I just pay 1/4th of it - $6.25? (essentially what you wrote, but not whole $'s)

 

[Doug Drinen]

Looking through the site, there's two pages I'd consider sponsoring, but they add up to $25. Can I just pay 1/4th of it - $6.25? (essentially what you wrote, but not whole $'s)

As far as I know, that should work. Let me know when you've opened an account and I'll put in the 18.75.

 

[bagger.]

When are 2005 stats updated?

 

[Doug Drinen]

When are 2005 stats updated?

Pretty soon. Probably sometime this weekend.

 

[bagger.]

When are 2005 stats updated?

Pretty soon. Probably sometime this weekend.

Sweet. I may have to make a donation if that is the case.

 

[palmersteel]

With all due respect, shouldn't this be in the FFA? I'd be interested in the Carolina Panthers team page. I want to look at it some more but i'll do that tonight. Thanks and good luck!

 

[bagger.]

With all due respect, shouldn't this be in the FFA? I'd be interested in the Carolina Panthers team page. I want to look at it some more but i'll do that tonight. Thanks and good luck!

Have you been to the FFA?

 

[Autumn Wind]

If I sponsor a page for a defensive player, can I contribute stats as well? The one I'm thinking of has practically nothing on it.

 

[Mike Herman]

I'm in. sounds like a very good cause... I hope they do well.

 

[Doug Drinen]

If I sponsor a page for a defensive player, can I contribute stats as well? The one I'm thinking of has practically nothing on it.

I actually have the stats, it's just a matter of getting them entered, which I haven't found the time to do. The player pages for IDPs are admittedly pretty weak. I added them awhile ago mainly because I wanted the top defensive players to be listed on the team pages and on the pro bowl pages.The pages are generated automatically from the database. So it's not really feasible to have stats on just one page. Sorry, wish the answer were different.

 

[Chase Stuart]

If I sponsor a page for a defensive player, can I contribute stats as well? The one I'm thinking of has practically nothing on it.

I actually have the stats, it's just a matter of getting them entered, which I haven't found the time to do. The player pages for IDPs are admittedly pretty weak. I added them awhile ago mainly because I wanted the top defensive players to be listed on the team pages and on the pro bowl pages.The pages are generated automatically from the database. So it's not really feasible to have stats on just one page. Sorry, wish the answer were different.

For what it's worth, this is still better than nothing. It is useful to check out what years Norton, Haley and Deion switched teams, and I do use it to check the career length/pro bowls of older defensive players.Once the stats go to the IDPs, :bowdown:

 

[Doug Drinen]

When are 2005 stats updated?

2005 stats are ready to go.

 

[-OZ-]

Once the stats go to the IDPs, :bowdown:

I'm waiting for this before paying $.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I'm in. I use PFR more than the average bear, I'm happy to pony up a few bucks.

 

[AB in DC]

When are 2005 stats updated?

2005 stats are ready to go.

 

[Sack-Religious]

When are you going to get around to getting complete stats on every NFL player (offense, defense, special teams, kickers, etc.)? Raw offensive numbers are nice but us stat geeks need more.

This isn't a complaint.......but it would be nice to see pfr.com become as thorough as baseballreference.com.

This might be what you are looking for.www.databasefootball.com

 

[Sack-Religious]

BTW Doug Great idea.

 

[Jimmy James]

I love pro-football-reference.com and have just set up an account with a modest amount. My email message will be sent as soon as I can find the addy.

 

[bagger.]

Thanks for updating 2005 stats Doug.

 

[Iron_Far]

Can we have physical url links out on the sponsor message?

 

[Doug Drinen]

Can we have physical url links out on the sponsor message?

If I understand you correctly, then the answer is yes. Here is an example:http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/RichJe00.htm

No porn, no gambling sites, etc. But yeah, links are OK.

 

[Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly]

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[cstu]

Props from Drafthistory.com:

Saturday, February 11, 2006Pro-Football-Reference.com Remains the Leader in Providing Usable Football StatisticsPro-Football-Reference.com has once again proven to be one of the most unheralded football sites on the internet. Any serious football fan with an interest in statistics should visit the site. While it is otherwise basic in nature, it provides one thing available nowhere else, free downloadable player statistics in a format that makes statistical research easy.The host, Doug Drinen, does a fantastic job of gathering the stats and placing them in a useful format. If you are a researcher at heart, if you want to get the jump on the others in your fantasy league, or if you just like having football stats at your fingertips, visit Pro-Football-Reference.com and download the Raw Data that Mr. Drinen makes available or use the data on the pages he provides. Complete data for the 2005 season is already available for download.The sites from the big boys, and we all know who they are, may be flashier and perhaps even more complete, but they fall short in one key area where Pro-Football-Reference.com trumps them all--the ability to download data for free in a format that makes research, sorting or slicing the data the way YOU want it easy.For the nth year in a row, a tip of the hat and a grateful THANK YOU to Doug Drinen's Pro-Football-Reference.com and all other small sites like his that make following football so much more enjoyable.