How's the Jets decision to go with Favre looking now? (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

Obviously the Jets had hoped to make the playoffs by adding Favre. I know he did increase jersey sales and what not, but they basically traded away a draft pick for one season. And ever since his big start, he's been very pedestrian. They probably won't make the playoffs now and it looks like it may have been a wasted move. If Favre retires (and stays retired) this offseason, what will be the net gain for the Jets.

Meanwhile, down in Miami, the Phins have been resurgene under the guy that the Jets kicked to the curb. Pennington has increased the Phins win total by 9 already, with one to play. He's not near the end of his career and the Jets didn't get anything for him.

The Jets seems to have gone with "the girl with the curl" here instead of the guy that gave them long term viability. I know Jets fans probably think it was a good move, but come on, isn't winning what it is all about. Favre was once absolutely dominant in cold weather. Now he's a liability. And I am pretty sure that cold weather rolls around every December. He's done as a late season QB and really hasn't been any good in the post season since in a long time.

 

[Stinger Ray]

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Meh. Pennington wasn't the answer for the Jets. I don't think he's the long term solution in Miami either (if they want to go anywhere in the playoffs). The Miami coaching staff deserves great kudos for the various wrinkles they've installed all season long.

I think Kellen was the alternative. And I think they'd be a 4 win team with him.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

 

[Reaper]

From the Jets thread:

The decision was a no-brainer.

Chad pretty much lost his job last year and most felt and still feel he's a QB who could only take a team so far and a top playoff D will shut him down...

Signing Favre accomplished 2 things at the least:

1. Got the Jets and fans to move on from Chad - He wasn't the Long term answer.

And

2. It was a "fun" no brainer "Roll of the dice" for a Jets franchise that probably wasn't going to win a Super Bowl anyway - so, sign Favre and maybe if things lineup, give yourself a punchers chance to maybe have a higher ceiling in a playoff game. Worst case, he leaves after 1 year and you're in the same boat of needing a QB - Maybe Clemens or Ratliff develop watching Favre?

 

[Sabertooth]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

Favre is my favorite player of all time. I am just asking a question. He's been over the hill for several years now. I can see Reaper's POV though. Kind of a "why not" type of situation. Never really thought about it that way.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

He's been over the hill for several years now.

2nd in the MVP voting last year and named to the Pro Bowl the last two years.

 

[PatsWillWin]

From the Jets thread:The decision was a no-brainer.Chad pretty much lost his job last year and most felt and still feel he's a QB who could only take a team so far and a top playoff D will shut him down...Signing Favre accomplished 2 things at the least:1. Got the Jets and fans to move on from Chad - He wasn't the Long term answer.And2. It was a "fun" no brainer "Roll of the dice" for a Jets franchise that probably wasn't going to win a Super Bowl anyway - so, sign Favre and maybe if things lineup, give yourself a punchers chance to maybe have a higher ceiling in a playoff game. Worst case, he leaves after 1 year and you're in the same boat of needing a QB - Maybe Clemens or Ratliff develop watching Favre?

These aren't accomplishments. HTH.

 

[FavreCo]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

 

[skillz]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

I thought he was Mangenius -- Tony Soprano even said so.

 

[trader jake]

Touche.

Why did the Jets bring in Brett Favre if they were going to treat him like a Trent Dilfer clone over the second half of the season?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

 

[Sabertooth]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

He's been over the hill for several years now.

2nd in the MVP voting last year and named to the Pro Bowl the last two years.

Ok, second doesn't mean anything. He took second place in the NFC championship game too. He can't play in the cold any more. When I say over the hill, I don't mean that he can't play. I mean that he is old and needs a cardigan to play once December hits. He was once invincible in the cold. Now he's vincible.His selection to the pro bowl is laughable. He won't go anyway.

 

[Stinger Ray]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

He's been over the hill for several years now.

2nd in the MVP voting last year and named to the Pro Bowl the last two years.

Ok, second doesn't mean anything. He took second place in the NFC championship game too. He can't play in the cold any more. When I say over the hill, I don't mean that he can't play. I mean that he is old and needs a cardigan to play once December hits. He was once invincible in the cold. Now he's vincible.His selection to the pro bowl is laughable. He won't go anyway.

He sure did damn good in that playoff game in the snow last year against the Seahawks and played well agains the Lions at Lambeau in December last year. We understand....you don't like Favre.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks.

In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense.

He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

 

[Sabertooth]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

He's been over the hill for several years now.

2nd in the MVP voting last year and named to the Pro Bowl the last two years.

Ok, second doesn't mean anything. He took second place in the NFC championship game too. He can't play in the cold any more. When I say over the hill, I don't mean that he can't play. I mean that he is old and needs a cardigan to play once December hits. He was once invincible in the cold. Now he's vincible.His selection to the pro bowl is laughable. He won't go anyway.

He sure did damn good in that playoff game in the snow last year against the Seahawks and played well agains the Lions at Lambeau in December last year. We understand....you don't like Favre.

No, I like him. Doesn't mean I can't be objective about him. Ryan Grant ran for more yards than Favre threw for in that game.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

So you really didn't mean to have that sarcasm smiley did you.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

So you really didn't mean to have that sarcasm smiley did you.

Actually, I did. The decision was fine for the Jets. Just like it was fine for the Packers. But I don't think Favre can be let off the hook for his play over the last few weeks. Too many people seem to think QB play is the main reason for the Packers losing, but those same people blame everyone but the QB when the Jets are playing bad.

 

[FavreCo]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

This post reaks of cluelessness.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

Here is a quote from one of your counterparts....

The Jets play calling and decision making is really bad. I don't doubt that Mangini is intelligent when it comes to schemes on both sides of the ball, but the Jets offensive play calling, defensive play calling and consistent failing to go for it on 4th down are simply awful. Something must be changed for next year.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

I understand it's not just playcalling =- Favre has been a pick machine of late and the balls he threw today - jeez. I think Coles dropped that last one because he was stunned it wasn't short.But the Jets playcalling hasn't been very good on either side of the ball. The under-use Washington, abandon the run game, don't adjust to the opposing offense, leave huge gaps in the pass coverage.... there is a ton of coaching involved in this collapse.Favre hasn't been playing all that well but the coaches are often calling plays that aren't really the best choice in a situation. Unless Favre is calling all the plays for offense AND defense, a ton of the problems come from the coaching.But as you said after the , Favre is not without sin here.And yet the Jets made a good decision I think, were nowhere winning Super Bowl without him, and have made for an exciting (if hair-pullingly frustrating) season. I think it was a pick well spent. The worst thing is, I think Favre's presence changed the original gameplan for the Jets to power-run. When they do that, they tend to win. when they don't - well, we've seen the result of late.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

So you really didn't mean to have that sarcasm smiley did you.

Actually, I did. The decision was fine for the Jets. Just like it was fine for the Packers. But I don't think Favre can be let off the hook for his play over the last few weeks. Too many people seem to think QB play is the main reason for the Packers losing, but those same people blame everyone but the QB when the Jets are playing bad.

So.....you want to be critical of Favre for his play over the last two weeks but I have seen nothing from you being critical of Rodgers for his failures to pull out a win in crunch time for the Packers this season.

 

[Nemesis]

Maybe Favre was a little busy today?

 

[zDragon]

From the Jets thread:The decision was a no-brainer.Chad pretty much lost his job last year and most felt and still feel he's a QB who could only take a team so far and a top playoff D will shut him down...Signing Favre accomplished 2 things at the least:1. Got the Jets and fans to move on from Chad - He wasn't the Long term answer.And2. It was a "fun" no brainer "Roll of the dice" for a Jets franchise that probably wasn't going to win a Super Bowl anyway - so, sign Favre and maybe if things lineup, give yourself a punchers chance to maybe have a higher ceiling in a playoff game. Worst case, he leaves after 1 year and you're in the same boat of needing a QB - Maybe Clemens or Ratliff develop watching Favre?

 

[Rovers]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Favre looked like an over matched high school QB last week in the second half against the Bills, which is bizarre, since he was playing well in the first half. His ball has lost it's zip, something even he mentioned in his presser after the Bills game. He has been consistantly underthrowing the ball over the last 4 games, and has the INT numbers to prove it. Today he threw one of the worst INT's I've ever seen. Backpedaling, on his heels, throwing off the wrong foot he threw the ball across his body, and across the field. That is about 5 mistakes on just one pass. Maybe there was a day he could make that throw when the stars were in the correct alignment, but for a guy who said he did not have the arm strength he used to have just last week, he has become the punch drunk boxer fighting his age and mileage. He embarrassed himself today. It is always sad to see great players hang around too long. In their own minds they are still great, but the body won't do what it used to do. For an analogy, base ball power pitchers can extend their careers by using finesse, control and smarts to get by. Favre could not make that transition. He should go home, and await the invitation to Canton.

 

[zDragon]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Favre looked like an over matched high school QB last week in the second half against the Bills, which is bizarre, since he was playing well in the first half. His ball has lost it's zip, something even he mentioned in his presser after the Bills game. He has been consistantly underthrowing the ball over the last 4 games, and has the INT numbers to prove it. Today he threw one of the worst INT's I've ever seen. Backpedaling, on his heels, throwing off the wrong foot he threw the ball across his body, and across the field. That is about 5 mistakes on just one pass. Maybe there was a day he could make that throw when the stars were in the correct alignment, but for a guy who said he did not have the arm strength he used to have just last week, he has become the punch drunk boxer fighting his age and mileage. He embarrassed himself today. It is always sad to see great players hang around too long. In their own minds they are still great, but the body won't do what it used to do. For an analogy, base ball power pitchers can extend their careers by using finesse, control and smarts to get by. Favre could not make that transition. He should go home, and await the invitation to Canton.

ESPN made it sounds as if Mangini went mad and forgot how to coach. The fact that they went for in versus punting on thier own 20. The pass I saw in the show looked nice and seemed to be well placed but the WR did not hold on to it in the double coverage.Seems as if the coaching went south and Favre didn't help a lot. Weather didn't look accommodating.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

When's the last time Brett Favre completed a TD pass of more than 20 yards? Week 4. Dude's done. With that being said the Jets still had to make that trade and didn't really lose anything from it.

 

[Sabertooth]

When's the last time Brett Favre completed a TD pass of more than 20 yards? Week 4. Dude's done. With that being said the Jets still had to make that trade and didn't really lose anything from it.

except Pennington and a draft pick.

 

[KingPrawn]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Favre looked like an over matched high school QB last week in the second half against the Bills, which is bizarre, since he was playing well in the first half. His ball has lost it's zip, something even he mentioned in his presser after the Bills game. He has been consistantly underthrowing the ball over the last 4 games, and has the INT numbers to prove it. Today he threw one of the worst INT's I've ever seen. Backpedaling, on his heels, throwing off the wrong foot he threw the ball across his body, and across the field. That is about 5 mistakes on just one pass. Maybe there was a day he could make that throw when the stars were in the correct alignment, but for a guy who said he did not have the arm strength he used to have just last week, he has become the punch drunk boxer fighting his age and mileage. He embarrassed himself today. It is always sad to see great players hang around too long. In their own minds they are still great, but the body won't do what it used to do. For an analogy, base ball power pitchers can extend their careers by using finesse, control and smarts to get by. Favre could not make that transition. He should go home, and await the invitation to Canton.

What many forget is that Favre really didn't partake in an off-season program this year. Last year he had worked out with a personal trainer during the off-season and that kept him fresh throughout the season. This year, during his retiring/unretiring saga, he threw to high-school kids. Not quite the same. Could explain his tiring and arm fatigue down the stretch.

 

[Sabertooth]

Since week 4, Favre has 9 TDs and 15 picks. In the last 4 weeks, Favre has thrown for under 200 yards per game, with 1 TD and 6 picks....and 3 of those 4 games were against teams that are in the bottom 10 in pass defense. He was terrible today against Seattle, a team that is dead last in pass defense. He has not played well for quite some time and if not for a defensive TD against Buffalo, the Jets would be on a 4 game losing streak, and Favre is the biggest reason why.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Favre looked like an over matched high school QB last week in the second half against the Bills, which is bizarre, since he was playing well in the first half. His ball has lost it's zip, something even he mentioned in his presser after the Bills game. He has been consistantly underthrowing the ball over the last 4 games, and has the INT numbers to prove it. Today he threw one of the worst INT's I've ever seen. Backpedaling, on his heels, throwing off the wrong foot he threw the ball across his body, and across the field. That is about 5 mistakes on just one pass. Maybe there was a day he could make that throw when the stars were in the correct alignment, but for a guy who said he did not have the arm strength he used to have just last week, he has become the punch drunk boxer fighting his age and mileage. He embarrassed himself today. It is always sad to see great players hang around too long. In their own minds they are still great, but the body won't do what it used to do. For an analogy, base ball power pitchers can extend their careers by using finesse, control and smarts to get by. Favre could not make that transition. He should go home, and await the invitation to Canton.

What many forget is that Favre really didn't partake in an off-season program this year. Last year he had worked out with a personal trainer during the off-season and that kept him fresh throughout the season. This year, during his retiring/unretiring saga, he threw to high-school kids. Not quite the same. Could explain his tiring and arm fatigue down the stretch.

That or age. Just sayin' Brett was older this year than he ever has been before his life.

 

[Tanner9919]

The Favre haters have sunk to a new low.

He's been over the hill for several years now.

2nd in the MVP voting last year and named to the Pro Bowl the last two years.

but 1/3rd of the vote comes from fans right? I hear what you're saying , but Favre hasn't been great this season.Last year he deserved it, but this year , not so much...

 

[Reaper]

When's the last time Brett Favre completed a TD pass of more than 20 yards? Week 4. Dude's done. With that being said the Jets still had to make that trade and didn't really lose anything from it.

except Pennington and a draft pick.

The draft pick isn't as bad without the playoffs..I think Chad had a great year but, I still think he only takes a team so far - Maybe if this Jets defense was like the Ravens with Dilfer or one of the best ever I would think otherwise - Maybe if Miami goes far in the playoffs, I'll think other wise but, most fans, Jet fan or not, believed Chad wouldn't beat too many playoff level defenses...I still say it was a no brainer and was worth the roll of the dice.. I said that the day the move was made... A Super Bowl was STILL a pipe dream for the Jets with or without Favre, so, why not?

 

[=Smackdown=]

The Jets spent a ton of money and brought in a lot of FA's - they clearly were in WIN NOW mode. When the ooportunity of acquiring Favre presented itself they HAD to jump at the chance. MOST teams would have doen the same.

The Jets were at such a high after beating TEN a few weeks ago . . . and now this. How did it come to this?

 

[Reaper]

The Jets spent a ton of money and brought in a lot of FA's - they clearly were in WIN NOW mode. When the ooportunity of acquiring Favre presented itself they HAD to jump at the chance. MOST teams would have doen the same.

The Jets were at such a high after beating TEN a few weeks ago . . . and now this. How did it come to this?

I don't totally buy this - The Jets decided long term they weren't going to pay Dewayne Robertson and Johnathon Vilma cuz they didn't fit their plans AND both were injured - They took that same money and spent it on Jenkins and Pace... If they spend that same money and extend Vilma and Dewayne, no one talks about some window and / or the money spent. The Favre money was a little more than Chad's and isn't long term... That leaves you with 1 high priced guard that IMO does a lot for the whole OL and was a decent signing regardless.

I just don't see these "windows" or the talk of Spending in today's NFL with a salary cap, to the point that I think they get WAY overblown...

Next year the Jets will have a decent OL and probably revert back to the team they were building Pre-Favre based on running the ball and add to the defense - I'd say there's a great chance the DC is changed.

The only window that closes is a the shot to win with Favre, as I doubt he returns and I'd say Jets fans are mixed anyway if they want him.

Oh yeah.. And maybe the biggest Real Window was winning the division without a full strength Pats team - But, every year there's surprises like that....

It'll be interesting what happens with Miami - The Jets were 10-6 in Mangini's 1st year - teams often take a step back after those type of years with a schedule like that and it'll be interesting to see if Chad is the QB and for how long... It's not often that Chad goes the full year without injury. Wonder if Miami corner's themselves into Chad and what i still think is his limited upside.

 

[theplayer11]

Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.

 

[fatness]

If Favre retires (and stays retired) this offseason

LOL. It's almost that time of year for the annual drama queen show from Favre. I love tradition.

 

[sho nuff]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

While he may be a poor coach.The QB play has not been great the past few weeks either.As for the decision.I agree with Reaper...while the net gain might not be there other than the excitement over much of the season.It was time to move on.Just because Pennington is doing well in Miami, does not mean he would have still fared well in NY...or even had the job anyway (he lost it last year remember).In the end, those who keep questioning the Packers decision may rethink their stance (though, I doubt some of them will).It was nice to roll the dice...if they don't make the playoffs...they give up a 3rd rounder.

 

[FUBAR]

From the Jets thread:The decision was a no-brainer.Chad pretty much lost his job last year and most felt and still feel he's a QB who could only take a team so far and a top playoff D will shut him down...Signing Favre accomplished 2 things at the least:1. Got the Jets and fans to move on from Chad - He wasn't the Long term answer.And2. It was a "fun" no brainer "Roll of the dice" for a Jets franchise that probably wasn't going to win a Super Bowl anyway - so, sign Favre and maybe if things lineup, give yourself a punchers chance to maybe have a higher ceiling in a playoff game. Worst case, he leaves after 1 year and you're in the same boat of needing a QB - Maybe Clemens or Ratliff develop watching Favre?

I'm asking because I don't know - has Favre either helped increase ticket or jersey sales? This seems like the kind of move the Yankees or Red Wings make.

 

[sho nuff]

Touche.Why did the Jets bring in Brett Favre if they were going to treat him like a Trent Dilfer clone over the second half of the season?

Only Favre threw INTs and did not take care of the ball like Dilfer.

 

[Reaper]

From the Jets thread:The decision was a no-brainer.Chad pretty much lost his job last year and most felt and still feel he's a QB who could only take a team so far and a top playoff D will shut him down...Signing Favre accomplished 2 things at the least:1. Got the Jets and fans to move on from Chad - He wasn't the Long term answer.And2. It was a "fun" no brainer "Roll of the dice" for a Jets franchise that probably wasn't going to win a Super Bowl anyway - so, sign Favre and maybe if things lineup, give yourself a punchers chance to maybe have a higher ceiling in a playoff game. Worst case, he leaves after 1 year and you're in the same boat of needing a QB - Maybe Clemens or Ratliff develop watching Favre?

I'm asking because I don't know - has Favre either helped increase ticket or jersey sales? This seems like the kind of move the Yankees or Red Wings make.

Favre jerseys sold like hotcakes - I wonder how many Jets fans are going to open up a Favre Jersey for Christmas and just throw up?But, regardless, IMO, it's still a no brainer move for a team coming off a 4-12 year with little chance at a Super Bowl as is, to roll the dice on a HOF QB and see what they can do.... But, the problems were MUCH deepe than Brett favre.Seems like a move any team should make IMO. WHY NOT????? If it were the Yankees, Favre would be locked up with a 5 year 100 million dollar deal with a 30 mill Signing bonus - It's not like that, it's a short term deal and once favre is gone, they still have the money - No big deal here.

 

[Reaper]

Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.

While he may be a poor coach.The QB play has not been great the past few weeks either.As for the decision.I agree with Reaper...while the net gain might not be there other than the excitement over much of the season.It was time to move on.Just because Pennington is doing well in Miami, does not mean he would have still fared well in NY...or even had the job anyway (he lost it last year remember).In the end, those who keep questioning the Packers decision may rethink their stance (though, I doubt some of them will).It was nice to roll the dice...if they don't make the playoffs...they give up a 3rd rounder.

I don't understand why anyone questioned the Jets or the Packers....GB needed to move on once Favre didn't commit.. The Jets had little to lose.I don't get those 20 page threads on Favre at all or why people get roped into them... It's pretty simple, GB has a good QB and moved on.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Touche.Why did the Jets bring in Brett Favre if they were going to treat him like a Trent Dilfer clone over the second half of the season?

Only Favre threw INTs and did not take care of the ball like Dilfer.

See my sig

 

[H.K.]

He's done as a late season QB and really hasn't been any good in the post season since in a long time.

I haven't seen anything this unintentionally funny since in a long time.

 

[sho nuff]

Touche.Why did the Jets bring in Brett Favre if they were going to treat him like a Trent Dilfer clone over the second half of the season?

Only Favre threw INTs and did not take care of the ball like Dilfer.

See my sig

I will.In recent weeks...can I diminish him over his own stat line and 3 losses in 4 games?The one win coming after the offense did nothing in the 2nd half (and the D sucked too) but the D then bailed them out with the fumble return.Favre threw some INTs...Dilfer's biggest thing was he was there not to hurt his team and let the running game work and the D work for the Ravens.I don't think Favre has played that type of football over the 2nd half of the year. Do you?But thanks for pointing out your obsession with me in your sig.Especially since my post still rings true. I don't diminish what the guy has done...I diminish your overblown opinion of him.

 

[sho nuff]

He's done as a late season QB and really hasn't been any good in the post season since in a long time.

I haven't seen anything this unintentionally funny since in a long time.

Because its mostly true?I would not say has not been any good.But his postseasons have not been very good save for a few games in quite a few years.And the last 2 years when the temp dips, so does Favre's performance.Look, love the guy, but anyone who watched him against Chicago and NY last year, and in the cold this year sees he does not seem to like that kind of weather at all anymore...

 

[Da Guru]

Farve is 38..going to be 39 soon. It seems like he has aged right in front of our eyes this year.

What did you expect..a 28 year old Farve?

 

[sho nuff]

Farve is 38..going to be 39 soon. It seems like he has aged right in front of our eyes this year.What did you expect..a 28 year old Farve?

Umm...he turned 39 in October.

 

[Phurfur]

Farve is 38..going to be 39 soon. It seems like he has aged right in front of our eyes this year.What did you expect..a 28 year old Farve?

No, he has been aging for years. Now you see what some of us Packer Fans saw.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Still seems like it was a good move for the Jets and their fans. Its a damn shame if they don't make it to the postseason though.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Its the coach...