EXACTLY.www.unmanageablecaphit.com
a stud backup QB like Schaub
You can throw out all the number you want to, but they hold no relevance because Vick is the one getting all the first team reps in practice, and Schaub only plays when Vick is hurt. It's impossible to make a statistical comparison of the two when the sample size is so different.Schaub looks like a real QB when he plays, and would be a lot more successful when he has a coaching staff with a vested interest in his success, which the Falcons do not currently.a stud backup QB like SchaubSchaub 66 for 134 with a 49.3% completion percentage
Vick 726 for 1342 with a 54.1% completion percentage
Schaub 825 yards on 134 attempts for a 6.2 YPA
Vick 9031 yards on 1342 attempts for a 6.7 YPA
Schaub 5 TDs on 134 attempts
Vick 51 TDs on 1342 attempts
Schaub 4 INTs on 134 attempts
Vick 39 INTs on 1342 attempts
Schaub 5:4 TD: INT
Vick 51:39 TD: INT
Schaub 17 rushes for 102 yards and 0 TDs, a 6 YPC, and fewer than 20 yards per game
Vick 403 rushes for 2844 yards and 19 TDs, a 7.1 YPC, and over 40 yards per game
2005
Vick: 8-7 as starter
Schaub: 0-1 as starter
2004: 11-4 as starter
Schaub: 0-1 as starter
Fun facts: The Falcons have never won a game that Schaub started. In fact, they've never won a game that Schaub attempted 15 passes. They are 3-7 in games in which Schaub has attempted even one pass, including a win vs. Oakland when Schaub was 0-1 for 0 yards with no rushing.
That's not true. Vick's Falcons beat the Vikings and Dolphins, and lost to the Seahawks, Bucs, Panthers, and the Bears in the cold. That's 2-6 against teams with winning records. But don't let that distract from your Vick hate. Vick has had a winning record every year he's been an NFL starter. The team's record without him during that stretch is abysmal.Vick: 0-6 vs winning teams this year ( 0-7 if you count the GB game )
Scaub: 0-1 vs winning teams ( vs NE ..had a 112 passer rating, 298yds 3TDs )
Face it, the guy was/is/willbe overrated. Nothing more then a marketing ploy
You bring up an interesting point about Schaub not getting the first team reps. Then again, he only looks good against opponents that have prepared for Vick. Here are his stats in his five games with > 5 pass attempts:Opponent prepared for Vick:5 of 14, 39 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs18 of 34, 298 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT9 of 13, 110 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTOpponent prepared for Schaub:17 of 41, 188 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs14 of 22, 133 yards, 1 TD, 1 INTIt looks like Schaub's only good when opponents prepare for Vick. When they know he's coming, he's a below 50% passer who throws 160 YPG and 3 INTs per TD.You can throw out all the number you want to, but they hold no relevance because Vick is the one getting all the first team reps in practice, and Schaub only plays when Vick is hurt. It's impossible to make a statistical comparison of the two when the sample size is so different.
How many Pro Bowls has Vick deserved? 1 2002, I believeI was wondering...
How many Pro Bowls had Brett Favre made when he was Vick's current age?
How many ProBowls had HOFer Steve Young played in his first 7 NFL seasons?
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That's not true. Vick's Falcons beat the Vikings and Dolphins, and lost to the Seahawks, Bucs, Panthers, and the Bears in the cold. That's 2-6 against teams with winning records. But don't let that distract from your Vick hate. Vick has had a winning record every year he's been an NFL starter. The team's record without him during that stretch is abysmal.Vick: 0-6 vs winning teams this year ( 0-7 if you count the GB game )
Scaub: 0-1 vs winning teams ( vs NE ..had a 112 passer rating, 298yds 3TDs )
Face it, the guy was/is/willbe overrated. Nothing more then a marketing ploy
It would be nice if he beat the Bucs, Panthers and Bears this year, but all three of those 11-5 playoff teams had good games and beat the Falcons, as did the 13-3 Seahawks. You really can't fault him for losing to those teams.
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That's your argument to support Vick? Hey, how many SB rings does Tim Couch have?Comparing Vick to Favre & Young is a blatant joke. Vick has not only not shown a capaicity to improve an appreciable amount, but now he's also shown that he's got a thin skin (I was wondering...
How many Pro Bowls had Brett Favre made when he was Vick's current age?
How many ProBowls had HOFer Steve Young played in his first 7 NFL seasons?
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In Vick's second year in the west coast offense, he had his first 300 yard passing game, and four 200+ yard passing games. The previous year, he had 0 300 yarders, and three 200+ yarders. He's 25 years old, learning the most difficult offense in the NFL, and still has carried his team to more wins than losses in every season in the NFL, while every single one of his replacements have miserable records. If he's doing all of this on pure athleticism, as many here claim, then imagine what he can do next year with 1) another year in the offensive system, 2) a third year receiver in Michael Jenkins, who also got off to a slow start, and 3) another year for Gibbs to tweak the offensive line to support Vick's style of play.Vick has not only not shown a capaicity to improve an appreciable amount
Soldmaybe they could trade him straight up for Jake Plummer and a 2nd rounder.
Shanahan's O is designed for a mobile QB, that's why he wanted Plummer.Looking at what Shanny did with Plummer, imagine what Shanahan believes he could do with Vick.Soldmaybe they could trade him straight up for Jake Plummer and a 2nd rounder.![]()
Not sure about that - I'll see if I can do some research and get back on this. If I remember correctly Vick counted something like usd 20 million against the Falcons cap this year - that should take care of a lot of the bonuses, no?www.dropinmerchandisingandseasonticketincome.com would be more viable IMHO as has also been brought up by other posterswww.unmanageablecaphit.com
Tim Brown? Jerry Rice?Oh, you mean Dez White or Peerless Price....He is a horrible QB. Great RB, but horrible QB. WR's go there to end their careers.
I haven't been able to find the exact numbers yet but foud this little tidbit on falcfans.comLinkNot sure about that - I'll see if I can do some research and get back on this. If I remember correctly Vick counted something like usd 20 million against the Falcons cap this year - that should take care of a lot of the bonuses, no?www.dropinmerchandisingandseasonticketincome.com would be more viable IMHO as has also been brought up by other posterswww.unmanageablecaphit.com
One of the issues of salary cap conflict of course arises from the team's highest paid player in Michael Vick, as his $130 million contract signed this past December was the largest in NFL history. With Vick's lofty status on the payroll, the Falcons will find it difficult to navigate the salary cap waters this year and in future years.
I'm pretty sure he meant WR's that go there when Vick is the QB. I think TO would fit in nice with the offensive scheme of things.Tim Brown? Jerry Rice?Oh, you mean Dez White or Peerless Price....He is a horrible QB. Great RB, but horrible QB. WR's go there to end their careers.
And all those butts started to leave during the 2nd QTR and half-time on Sunday. I wasn't happy about getting up early on New Year's Day, spending $$ on parking and food, to watch the Falcon's only show up to collect a paycheck. All of the Panther fans had really great seats during the 2nd half.funny but futile
Arthur Blank and the Falcons have committed WAY too much for this.
Hell, he's the face of the franchise, if not the NFL. He puts butts in the seats. And that's the bottom line.
FixedJust one short year ago the Defense and the three-headed Falcon's rushing attack was one game away from leading this team to the Superbowl, after a cupcake regular season schedule.
He plays badly on the road against top notch defenses in cold weather. Most every QB has trouble in those conditions.
Yes, most QB's have passed their prime by the age of 25.Is it possible we`ve seen the best of Vick already? He did definetly regress this season!