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Huge Cheap 4K TV's As Monitors Coming Soon (1 Viewer)

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The holy grail for lovers of huge PC monitors has been 4K at 60hz. Until now 4K TV's have only been able to output 4K at 30hz, virtually unusable as a monitor, and you would need to purchase a much more expensive 4K monitor.

I've used 37" monitors at 1080p for years but it's not ideal as a monitor because the video is stretched out too much. Seiki is coming out with a 40" that should be an incredible improvement.

 
I almost bought one of the 38" displays by Seiki when they dropped down to $399 for a brief period last fall (winter?) Shied away because of some of the reviews, but I just noticed they are only $420 and change right now, and with this announcement, I'm guessing we could see them lower. I don't think I'd care about the refresh rate for programming/development but don't want to drop $400+ to find out it does bother me. And for games, I'd probably drop it down to 1920x1080 anyways as I don't think I could output decent FPS at 3840x2160, and they will go 60hz at the lower resolution (if I recall correctly). If I see it drop low enough, I might take a chance on the current gen to replace an older 1680x1050 22" display I have (2nd monitor) and make my 28" 1920x1200 display my second monitor then.

Speaking of resolutions, I really like my 1920x1200 monitor, I can't tell you how much I miss that extra 120px when I'm at work on 1920x1080, it's really weird that it feels so different.

 
Maelstrom said:
I almost bought one of the 38" displays by Seiki when they dropped down to $399 for a brief period last fall (winter?) Shied away because of some of the reviews, but I just noticed they are only $420 and change right now, and with this announcement, I'm guessing we could see them lower. I don't think I'd care about the refresh rate for programming/development but don't want to drop $400+ to find out it does bother me. And for games, I'd probably drop it down to 1920x1080 anyways as I don't think I could output decent FPS at 3840x2160, and they will go 60hz at the lower resolution (if I recall correctly). If I see it drop low enough, I might take a chance on the current gen to replace an older 1680x1050 22" display I have (2nd monitor) and make my 28" 1920x1200 display my second monitor then.

Speaking of resolutions, I really like my 1920x1200 monitor, I can't tell you how much I miss that extra 120px when I'm at work on 1920x1080, it's really weird that it feels so different.
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$299 if you want one.

 
Amazing that it took 60 years to get from 525 lines of resolution to 1080 and now in less than 20 we've doubled that. Not to mention in the last 20 we've went from 25" TV's being standard to 50-60".

 
Let's say that hypothetically, someone has a boatload of HD porn on their computer.

It will look twice as good on this 4K monitor?

 
cstu said:
Maelstrom said:
I almost bought one of the 38" displays by Seiki when they dropped down to $399 for a brief period last fall (winter?) Shied away because of some of the reviews, but I just noticed they are only $420 and change right now, and with this announcement, I'm guessing we could see them lower. I don't think I'd care about the refresh rate for programming/development but don't want to drop $400+ to find out it does bother me. And for games, I'd probably drop it down to 1920x1080 anyways as I don't think I could output decent FPS at 3840x2160, and they will go 60hz at the lower resolution (if I recall correctly). If I see it drop low enough, I might take a chance on the current gen to replace an older 1680x1050 22" display I have (2nd monitor) and make my 28" 1920x1200 display my second monitor then.

Speaking of resolutions, I really like my 1920x1200 monitor, I can't tell you how much I miss that extra 120px when I'm at work on 1920x1080, it's really weird that it feels so different.
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$299 if you want one.
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:thumbup: severely tempted
 
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Philips released their 40" 4k monitor - Philips BDM4065UC review and another from PCGamer.

The Seiki 40U4SEP-G02 I mentioned in the OP is expected to use the same screen, but cost much less than the Philips. No word on a specific release date yet (Q1 2015).

Seiki review from CES.

For comparison’s sake, a 24-inch 1920x1080 panel works out to about 92 PPI. A 27-inch 2560x1440 monitor is a bit better, at 109 PPI. A 40-inch 3840x2160 monitor, like Seiki’s, comes in at 110 PPI. That’s easily usable without messing with Windows’ still-not-great DPI scaling.
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Seiki adjusts plans for 4K desktop monitors

by Geoff Gasior — 10:04 AM on January 12, 2015

This summer, affordable HDTV maker Seiki announced that it was getting into the monitor business with a trio of 28-40" displays boasting VA panels, 12-bit color, and both HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.3 connectivity. Those displays were supposed to arrive in the first quarter of this year, but Seiki's plans have apparently changed. At the Consumer Electronics Show last week, the company revealed that units with HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.3 hotness aren't coming until Q2.

Seiki still has 4K desktop monitors scheduled for this quarter, though. These variants appear to have the same 12-bit VA panels as the delayed displays, but they'll only be available in 32" and 40" sizes. Although refresh rates aren't mentioned in the press release, support for DisplayPort 1.2 should open the door to 4K output at 60Hz. Other connectivity includes HDMI 1.4, MHL 3.0, DVI, and VGA—none of which can handle the native 3840x2160 resolution at 60Hz.

The 32" SM32UNP and 40" SM40UNP will be sold under the Seiki Pro brand, but we don't know for how much. Seiki plans to reveal pricing information closer to the release date.
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Having used the 39" Seiki (the one that only did 30Hz at native resolution) for 6+ months now, I would say I wouldn't go much bigger than that. As it is, when a screen accidentally goes full-screen, it is very large being about 3 feet from my face (best I could do on my desk). The 30Hz thing isn't an issue for desktop use, and I clock down to 1920x1080 for gaming, which it'll do at 120Hz just fine.

 
Wow these things are getting cheap. Is there any programming that actually supports it yet? As an external monitor how good does it look?

 
Otis said:
Wow these things are getting cheap. Is there any programming that actually supports it yet? As an external monitor how good does it look?
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I bought it based on everything I read in this thread.

The curved version is the most popular there but they are mostly gamers and it wasn't worth $200 more than the flat version to me. Here's a photo of one guy's set up (that's a 30" on the left).

 
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Cjw_55106 said:
Just curious, why would you want a screen that large if you are sitting 18 inches away from it?
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I tried it once. Hooked up a 42 inch flat screen as my monitor because we had an extra one at work.

Got a massive headache rather quickly. Just too big.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Just curious, why would you want a screen that large if you are sitting 18 inches away from it?
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I do web development. The more screen space I have, the more productive I can be, cause I can position my development environment and browser and other windows in a way so none of them overlap, and I don't have to swap windows back and forth to see what I'm doing.

 
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Cjw_55106 said:
Just curious, why would you want a screen that large if you are sitting 18 inches away from it?
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I do web development. The more screen space I have, the more productive I can be, cause I can position my development environment and browser and other windows in a way so none of them overlap, and I don't have to swap windows back and forth to see what I'm doing.
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I think anyone who works in an environment with multiple windows understands how nice it is to have a big screen. At work I have two monitors but it's not as convenient as having a single huge screen I can adjust however I like.

 
Some others to look at besides the Samsung, Seiki, and Philips are the Crossover 44K and 404K (newer version of the 44K) and Wasabi Mango UHD420.

 
Who is using a 40" 4k for a computer monitor? Would you prefer the single 40" or 2-3 28" monitors? Just wondering about multi-monitor setups with smaller screens vs 1 giant one.

 
Mad Cow said:
Who is using a 40" 4k for a computer monitor? Would you prefer the single 40" or 2-3 28" monitors? Just wondering about multi-monitor setups with smaller screens vs 1 giant one.
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This is like asking if you'd rather have a 10 versus two 5's.

 
Mad Cow said:
Who is using a 40" 4k for a computer monitor? Would you prefer the single 40" or 2-3 28" monitors? Just wondering about multi-monitor setups with smaller screens vs 1 giant one.
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I have one of the 39" Seiki 4K monitors as my main display (I also still have my 28" 1920x1200 hooked up as well :bag: ) It is awesome for coding (which is what I got it for). I run it at 1920x1080 for gaming, because it only does 30Hz at 3840x2160 (4k). It's the older HDMI 1.4 spec, besides, my computer is showing it's age and couldn't push decent frame rates at 4K, it has a hard enough time at 1080p. Also, with that much real estate, you almost never want programs open full screen, so a window manager is almost a must - I use iMosaico to store layouts and restore them for different activities (coding, general web browsing, etc).

If I was to do it again, I might consider two 2560x1440 monitors, even though you give up a almost a million pixels compared to the 4k display.

 
Ordered a very nice curved 34" LED to be delivered on Friday. I look forward to giving it a go.

So you were saying to get a window manager. I will look into that.

 
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