Hypothetical: Roethlisberger trade (1 Viewer)

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

I actually think you could get quite a bit. There are several owners and fan bases out there that wouldn't bat an eye at this kind of scandel. Maybe the Cowboys for Romo and a 2nd rounder or something. Or a couple first rounders from the Raiders. The Bengals would probably give you their entire 2010 draft and a 1st rounder next year for the priveledge of adding a scumbag of this caliber to their collection.

LOL at the idea that the Cowboys would trade Romo for Roethlisberger. Not a chance.

How bout Romo for Big Ben & Jessica Simpson has to become Ben's vacation partner.... you gotta throw a Bimbo in there somewhere

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

I actually think you could get quite a bit. There are several owners and fan bases out there that wouldn't bat an eye at this kind of scandel. Maybe the Cowboys for Romo and a 2nd rounder or something. Or a couple first rounders from the Raiders. The Bengals would probably give you their entire 2010 draft and a 1st rounder next year for the priveledge of adding a scumbag of this caliber to their collection.

LOL at the idea that the Cowboys would trade Romo for Roethlisberger. Not a chance.

Roethlisberger is a better QB, and I've never seen any evidence that Jerry Jones cares about character, and for that matter, neither does their fan base. I've asked Cowboys fans if adding Pacman Jones bothered them and they act like they don't understand the question.

I disagree that Roethlisberger is a better QB. IMO Romo is better, even without taking any character issues into account.

could it be that you are a 'little' biased against Ben because he's considered by some to be the best QB of his draft class?... a draft class that includes P Riv?

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

I disagree that Roethlisberger is a better QB. IMO Romo is better, even without taking any character issues into account.

Seriously?I don't think Romo is close to Ben as a QB.

I also think Romo is the superior QB to Ben. He's not a winner but I don't think thats a product of his failings, but he has had some inept coaching in his career (outside of Bill Parcells obviously). The guy has produced huge numbers year in and year out in the regular season and is insanely accurate on top of having a great deep ball. I am of the opinion that Roeth is a really good QB but Romo is extremely good. He's not #1 all time in YPA for nothing.

There.... fixed.

 

[beavers]

I actually think you could get quite a bit. There are several owners and fan bases out there that wouldn't bat an eye at this kind of scandel. Maybe the Cowboys for Romo and a 2nd rounder or something. Or a couple first rounders from the Raiders. The Bengals would probably give you their entire 2010 draft and a 1st rounder next year for the priveledge of adding a scumbag of this caliber to their collection.

LOL at the idea that the Cowboys would trade Romo for Roethlisberger. Not a chance.

How bout Romo for Big Ben & Jessica Simpson has to become Ben's vacation partner.... you gotta throw a Bimbo in there somewhere

Sorry, but assuming Jessica agrees to the trade, that scenario would be consensual and Ben doesn't roll like that.

 

[Tau837]

I actually think you could get quite a bit. There are several owners and fan bases out there that wouldn't bat an eye at this kind of scandel. Maybe the Cowboys for Romo and a 2nd rounder or something. Or a couple first rounders from the Raiders. The Bengals would probably give you their entire 2010 draft and a 1st rounder next year for the priveledge of adding a scumbag of this caliber to their collection.

LOL at the idea that the Cowboys would trade Romo for Roethlisberger. Not a chance.

Roethlisberger is a better QB, and I've never seen any evidence that Jerry Jones cares about character, and for that matter, neither does their fan base. I've asked Cowboys fans if adding Pacman Jones bothered them and they act like they don't understand the question.

I disagree that Roethlisberger is a better QB. IMO Romo is better, even without taking any character issues into account.

could it be that you are a 'little' biased against Ben because he's considered by some to be the best QB of his draft class?... a draft class that includes P Riv?

I certainly think Rivers is a better QB than Roethlisberger. Does that make me biased against Roethlisberger in a comparison with Tony Romo? I don't think so. Romo has a similar winning percentage and has been better than Roethlisberger in every passing metric for their careers to date. Those are facts, not opinion, and thus not subject to bias.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

could it be that you are a 'little' biased against Ben because he's considered by some to be the best QB of his draft class?... a draft class that includes P Riv?

I certainly think Rivers is a better QB than Roethlisberger. Does that make me biased against Roethlisberger in a comparison with Tony Romo? I don't think so. Romo has a similar winning percentage and has been better than Roethlisberger in every passing metric for their careers to date. Those are facts, not opinion, and thus not subject to bias.

I tend to agree that P Riv is as good if maybe not a little better than Ben but it is most certainly fair to question some of Phil's play in the playoffs. Favored or considered to be the hottest team going into the playoffs just about every year and known as one of the most talented teams across the board and he's never even made it to the Superbowl as of yet. Yes Ben takes some mind numbing sacks and makes an equal amount of huge plays by extending the time he has to throw but in the playoffs (where legends are made) his dumb sacks are minimal and he has made a tremendous amount of plays to win games. Even in his first SB he made a few scramble plays that put them in position to score. His numbers were terrible but he made some key plays regardless.As for Romo, he has to do SOMETHING in the playoffs. His defense has been high quality quite often in the playoffs and they still go nowhere. I do think he may have turned a corner last year but the jury is out on that.

 

[Steelfan7]

I actually think you could get quite a bit. There are several owners and fan bases out there that wouldn't bat an eye at this kind of scandel. Maybe the Cowboys for Romo and a 2nd rounder or something. Or a couple first rounders from the Raiders. The Bengals would probably give you their entire 2010 draft and a 1st rounder next year for the priveledge of adding a scumbag of this caliber to their collection.

LOL at the idea that the Cowboys would trade Romo for Roethlisberger. Not a chance.

That's funny coming from someone with the handle Just Win Baby. That's exactly what Ben has done and exactly what Romo has failed to do. I'll take 2X Superbowl winning qbs for $1,000 Alex.

 

[Steeler]

New hypothetical scenario:

Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

 

[Godsbrother]

New hypothetical scenario:Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

It works for me. Think of teh fun Ben could have in the VIP rooms in SF!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

New hypothetical scenario:Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

Charlie Batch the new starting QB?

 

[Steeler]

New hypothetical scenario:Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

Charlie Batch the new starting QB?

Apparently the Steelers like Dennis Dixon... so it would be Dixon, Batch and I'd guess they would bring in another vet (sign Bulger, trade for Leftwich) and they'd all compete for the job... that's what I'd do in this hypothetical situation.

 

[Steelfan7]

Steelers keeping Ben

 

[Dr. Awesome]

New hypothetical scenario:Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

Niners would instantly become legitimate threats to win it all.

 

[fatness]

Steelers keeping Ben

From that article:

Though he admitted the Steelers have internally discussed trading Ben Roethlisberger, team president Art Rooney II said Thursday the team is moving on with Roethlisberger as its quarterback.

That's just repeating something from his news conference. Rooney would say that if they are keeping him, and would say that if they were thinking of trading him (so as not to lower his trade value further).

 

[BuckeyeArt]

He takes more dumb sacks than any quarterback I've ever seen.

You clearly didn't see Rodgers play last year.

 

[CrossEyed]

Steelers keeping Ben

I watched the press conference. I didn't come away with the same impression.

 

[CrossEyed]

New hypothetical scenario:Trade Ben to SF for one of their first round picks (13 or 17) and SF 2nd this year... thoughts?

It works for me.

+1

 

[Steelfan7]

Steelers keeping Ben

I watched the press conference. I didn't come away with the same impression.

I just rewatched the PR and I came away believing that the Steelers are keeping Ben, but under the conditions that he continues to prove that he has changed his off the field behavior. In other words they are not taking Ben at his word. Only his actions going forward will gain the Rooneys faith.

 

[QuizGuy66]

-QG

 

[CrossEyed]

Steelers keeping Ben

I watched the press conference. I didn't come away with the same impression.

I just rewatched the PR and I came away believing that the Steelers are keeping Ben, but under the conditions that he continues to prove that he has changed his off the field behavior. In other words they are not taking Ben at his word. Only his actions going forward will gain the Rooneys faith.

If they were thinking about a trade do you really think they would openly say anything that would suggest that? No better way to reduce the offers.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Steelers keeping Ben

I watched the press conference. I didn't come away with the same impression.

I just rewatched the PR and I came away believing that the Steelers are keeping Ben, but under the conditions that he continues to prove that he has changed his off the field behavior. In other words they are not taking Ben at his word. Only his actions going forward will gain the Rooneys faith.

If they were thinking about a trade do you really think they would openly say anything that would suggest that? No better way to reduce the offers.

That's ridiculous. Their leverage wouldn't drop one bit if they announced they were open to trading him and were seeking the best offers. As long as there are multiple teams interested the supply and demand will keep the price high.And by not trading him now and saying they'll be watching his future behavior, the Rooneys are already taking him at his word.

 

[Steeler]

With the latest accusations coming out... maybe only the Raiders would be willing to take him

 

[CrossEyed]

Steelers keeping Ben

I watched the press conference. I didn't come away with the same impression.

I just rewatched the PR and I came away believing that the Steelers are keeping Ben, but under the conditions that he continues to prove that he has changed his off the field behavior. In other words they are not taking Ben at his word. Only his actions going forward will gain the Rooneys faith.

If they were thinking about a trade do you really think they would openly say anything that would suggest that? No better way to reduce the offers.

That's ridiculous. Their leverage wouldn't drop one bit if they announced they were open to trading him and were seeking the best offers. As long as there are multiple teams interested the supply and demand will keep the price high.And by not trading him now and saying they'll be watching his future behavior, the Rooneys are already taking him at his word.

The Steelers don't talk about trades ahead of time. Rooney even said this during the press conference.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Bradford may be "clean" but the chances of him being as good on the field as Roethlisberer have got to be slim.

 

[Jeremy]

With the latest accusations coming out... maybe only the Raiders would be willing to take him

That's about the only team I can think of that badly needs a QB AND doesn't put a high emphasis on character. The good news is, Al Davis is just crazy enough to do it, and you might even get close to full value for him.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

...third of all, all the people saying Romo is better than Roeth is

I think Romo is one of many QBs in the NFL that is better than Roethlisberger .... when the game is not on the line. Roethlisberger is one of those special QBs that goes from playing just so-so all game to almost unstoppable when it matters the most.

 

[CrossEyed]

With the latest accusations coming out... maybe only the Raiders would be willing to take him

That's about the only team I can think of that badly needs a QB AND doesn't put a high emphasis on character. The good news is, Al Davis is just crazy enough to do it, and you might even get close to full value for him.

You mean we'd get Jamarcus.

 

[Jeremy]

With the latest accusations coming out... maybe only the Raiders would be willing to take him

That's about the only team I can think of that badly needs a QB AND doesn't put a high emphasis on character. The good news is, Al Davis is just crazy enough to do it, and you might even get close to full value for him.

You mean we'd get Jamarcus.

Well, let's not get crazy.

 

[Steeler]

With the latest accusations coming out... maybe only the Raiders would be willing to take him

That's about the only team I can think of that badly needs a QB AND doesn't put a high emphasis on character. The good news is, Al Davis is just crazy enough to do it, and you might even get close to full value for him.

You mean we'd get Jamarcus.

Well, let's not get crazy.

Well, the Steelers do need to get younger on the D line.

 

[Blackjacks]

I am under the belief that Big Ben has played his last game in Pittsburgh

Realistic destinations:

Oakland

Buffalo

Carolina

SF

STL

Sea

Arizona

Most realistic:

Oakland

Buffalo

SF

My thoughts:

Oakland

Nnamdi Asomugha and the Raiders 2nd round draft pick this year

and with Oakland's 2nd round pick they draft the PR dream to replace Big Ben with Tim Tebow.

Tebow can sit behind Dixon/Batch for a year and play for a defensive minded team and not be heavily relied on to win.

Tebow is a Pittsburgh type player.

I'm not sure about the Tebow part but I do think Oakland will be Big Ben's new home in the next week.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

 

[David Dodds]

People are delusional to think anyone is going to give up a first rounder in this year's draft for Big Ben and all his problems. I am guessing someone would take a chance with a second rounder this year and a conditional 2nd/3rd again next year if he stays out of trouble. I think a lot of teams would pass because most want their QB to be the face of their organization. I too think we may not see Ben as a Steeler this year even if he is traded away for next to nothing.

 

[cobalt_27]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

I doubt it's his success. I think it has something to do with raping women that is the problem for most of us.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

People are delusional to think anyone is going to give up a first rounder in this year's draft for Big Ben and all his problems. I am guessing someone would take a chance with a second rounder this year and a conditional 2nd/3rd again next year if he stays out of trouble. I think a lot of teams would pass because most want their QB to be the face of their organization. I too think we may not see Ben as a Steeler this year even if he is traded away for next to nothing.

That's just dopey and I would hope the Steelers don't subscribe to your way of thinking when it comes to Ben's future.Maybe the right thing to do is NOTHING until the draft and things settle down a bit?? The girl will probably change her story...again.If the Steelers trade him for what you suggest is his "going rate" i'll wash your care weekly for a year. They're not dumb so it won't come to that...so your car will be as dirty as it ever was..

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

I doubt it's his success. I think it has something to do with raping women that is the problem for most of us.

Who's been raped? Isn't that a crime and shouldn't he be arrested? Then why is he not????You ####### #######>

 

[Steelfan7]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

I doubt it's his success. I think it has something to do with raping women that is the problem for most of us.

Who's been raped? Isn't that a crime and shouldn't he be arrested? Then why is he not????You ####### #######>

These guys are on big trips. It's best just to ignore the dumb posts that keep getting repeated to get another response.

 

[Routilla]

Maybe the CFL?

 

[fatness]

You ####### #######>

Do you just hate his success?

 

[fatness]

I think a lot of teams would pass because most want their QB to be the face of their organization.

That's the problem facing the Steelers. Roethlisberger is a young QB and very talented, but he's made himself into the most visible turd in the league right now.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

You ####### #######>

Do you just hate his success?

I do. He, like you, are very successful #######s.

 

[cobalt_27]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

I doubt it's his success. I think it has something to do with raping women that is the problem for most of us.

Who's been raped? Isn't that a crime and shouldn't he be arrested? Then why is he not????You ####### #######>

Since when are all crimes adjudicated? All criminals arrested? Or, are you in the "OJ never killed anybody" camp because a jury acquitted him in the criminal proceeding?If so, just keep waving your terrible towel in support of the Big Rapist.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

I doubt it's his success. I think it has something to do with raping women that is the problem for most of us.

Who's been raped? Isn't that a crime and shouldn't he be arrested? Then why is he not????You ####### #######>

Since when are all crimes adjudicated? All criminals arrested? Or, are you in the "OJ never killed anybody" camp because a jury acquitted him in the criminal proceeding?If so, just keep waving your terrible towel in support of the Big Rapist.

Hey bud, seriously, go fly yourself off a cliff. (read between the lines)

 

[fatness]

Hey bud, seriously, go fly yourself off a cliff. (read between the lines)

It's tough when heroes let you down, isn't it? Makes you want to lash out at everyone.

 

[cobalt_27]

Hey bud, seriously, go fly yourself off a cliff. (read between the lines)

Hey bud, enjoy the suspension or trade of your scumbag QB.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Maybe the CFL?

Ladies and Gentlemen...you Florida Tuskers!!!-QG

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Hey bud, seriously, go fly yourself off a cliff. (read between the lines)

It's tough when heroes let you down, isn't it? Makes you want to lash out at everyone.

Nah, I really don't care.Douchebaggery on any level annoys the hell out of me though, I need to remember to let seeping vagisils like you go.....I'll make a note to myself for future reference.

 

[cobalt_27]

Hey bud, seriously, go fly yourself off a cliff. (read between the lines)

It's tough when heroes let you down, isn't it? Makes you want to lash out at everyone.

Nah, I really don't care.

Not much of a fan, obviously. Bandwagoners always make themselves so conspicuous. Any true Steeler fan will tell you they are really upset by this.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

Yes. I have to admit, I do find it terribly irritating to consider what a successful rapist Ben Roethlisberger is. It's vexing.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I would think that the Rams would want more for the 1.1., Roethlisberger plus, given they could get a clean rookie without the baggage without trading, B.R. is damaged right now, though is likely the better chance at reaching on-field stability faster. It would be interesting if they worked at a trade, but if I were the rams I wouldn't just do an even swap.

Of the 500 or so Big Ben Threads, you're the consistent "other team" poster...what gives? I'd expect a Ravens fan or a Pats fan (for spygate retribution) but a Vikings fan?? I'm flummoxed. Do you just hate his success?

Yes. I have to admit, I do find it terribly irritating to consider what a successful rapist Ben Roethlisberger is. It's vexing.

Good to know you're self aware of your vaginosis.