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I am benching Chris Johnson for ____? (1 Viewer)

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I see lots of varying opinions on his ranking this week. Only Grant was able to rack up a decent amount of yards against them.

Bloom gives him a late #1RB PPR ranking, expecting usual solid, but not great numbers.

Dodds gives him a tepid mid #2 RB PPR ranking, even putting guys like Perry, Slaton and JLewis ahead of him.

What about you guys? Will they keep him down? Would you predict better numbers for these kind of guys this week?

 
I'm having a tough time with this decision. Minnesota is just so tough against opposing runners that I'm tempted to play it safe and go with Selvin Young at RB2 against the Chiefs. He had a huge game against them last time, but the opportunities of him finding the end zone are limited because of Pittman. I could see him breaking off a decent run outside the ten to score, but will he get the touches to make it worth starting him over CJ3?

 
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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Starting a RB against a defense that is allowing 70.3 yards rushing per game will not win you championships. Trust me CJ is in for a long day.
 
Lobary said:
I'm having a tough time with this decision. Minnesota is just so tough against opposing runners that I'm tempted to play it safe and go with Selvin Young at RB2 against the Chiefs. He had a huge game against them last time, but the opportunities of him finding the end zone are limited because of Pittman. I could see him breaking off a decent run outside the ten to score, but will he get the touches to make it worth starting him over CJ3?
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u r thinking too much.
 
Gopher State said:
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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Starting a RB against a defense that is allowing 70.3 yards rushing per game will not win you championships. Trust me CJ is in for a long day.
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You may be right but my point is that you DON'T bench Chris Johnson this week or any week - especially for guys like Selvin Young. If you consider yourself an experienced fantasy owner, you should know you never bench your studs. Perhaps you don't consider Ch Johnson but I do. If Fantasy was as predictible as starting guys against 'easy' defenses and benching them against 'tough' defenses then it wouldn't be fun anymore. If you bench Johnson over the Chris Perrys, Selvin Youngs and Edgerrin James's of the world, you are making a very poor and unexperienced fantasy decision IMO. If you are benching him in favor of the LTs, Gores and APs of the world - well then you have a reason to.
 
Rhythmdoctor said:
Gopher State said:
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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Starting a RB against a defense that is allowing 70.3 yards rushing per game will not win you championships. Trust me CJ is in for a long day.
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You may be right but my point is that you DON'T bench Chris Johnson this week or any week - especially for guys like Selvin Young. If you consider yourself an experienced fantasy owner, you should know you never bench your studs. Perhaps you don't consider Ch Johnson but I do. If Fantasy was as predictible as starting guys against 'easy' defenses and benching them against 'tough' defenses then it wouldn't be fun anymore. If you bench Johnson over the Chris Perrys, Selvin Youngs and Edgerrin James's of the world, you are making a very poor and unexperienced fantasy decision IMO. If you are benching him in favor of the LTs, Gores and APs of the world - well then you have a reason to.
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what he said.
 
Hipple said:
Lobary said:
I'm having a tough time with this decision. Minnesota is just so tough against opposing runners that I'm tempted to play it safe and go with Selvin Young at RB2 against the Chiefs. He had a huge game against them last time, but the opportunities of him finding the end zone are limited because of Pittman. I could see him breaking off a decent run outside the ten to score, but will he get the touches to make it worth starting him over CJ3?
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u r thinking too much.
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Probably. By Sunday I'll likely decide to just stick it out with Johnson for no other reason than regret avoidance. If he breaks off a long one while sitting on my bench, I might just cry myself to sleep that night.
 
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Ryan Grant busted a 57 yard run against them, with 92 total yards.

Addai and the Carolina crew do not have CJ3's skill set.

The Titans will not be able to run up the middle, thus severely limiting White, but CJ3 should be able to break it outside a couple times.

I was considering benching him for Perry, but I'm pretty sure I'll be starting him this week. I'm prepared to be disappointed, but I'm hopeful.

 
Gopher State said:
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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Starting a RB against a defense that is allowing 70.3 yards rushing per game will not win you championships. Trust me CJ is in for a long day.
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White is the one to bench. If they have no room to run, they are going to have to pass to get their yardage, and Johnson will be involved in that aspect for sure. Bench CJ3 at your peril.
 
Lobary said:
I'm having a tough time with this decision. Minnesota is just so tough against opposing runners that I'm tempted to play it safe and go with Selvin Young at RB2 against the Chiefs. He had a huge game against them last time, but the opportunities of him finding the end zone are limited because of Pittman. I could see him breaking off a decent run outside the ten to score, but will he get the touches to make it worth starting him over CJ3?
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This is purely gross speculation on my part, but I have this sneaking suspicion that Shanarat changes things up this week & runs the ball. I own Cutler & Marshal, and I've watched Shanny a lot over the years. He is known to change gameplan drastically week to week. I can totally see him pounding the rock against a KC D. To put it mildly, I have tempered my expectations of the Denv passing attack this week...just a feeling
 
Giving Grant a start over CJ right now, but now with White hurting, who knows? i don't think CJ is an every down back if White can't play. Grant's feeling good, and if White does play, he's stealing TDs. And I'm a Titans fan...

 
LBJ :headbang: over Norwood, and the injured/bye week Morris brothers (Sammy & Maurice). It's easier in 14 team leagues, were options are limited.

I'm actually looking forward to TN playing in a close game where CJ will need to be utilized more (screens, sweeps, etc.) I'm SURE that Lendale will be much less effective plodding up the middle. And I'd think the OC in TN will find a way to get his (only) playmaker involved. Hopefully Frerotte will play well enough to keep MN in the game or even some kind of a lead, pushing White to the bench after his 3 ypc average proves ineffective.

Collins will need to avoid turnovers and keep drives alive.

20 total touches for 100 and a score.

 
hip80 said:
Giving Grant a start over CJ right now, but now with White hurting, who knows? i don't think CJ is an every down back if White can't play. Grant's feeling good, and if White does play, he's stealing TDs. And I'm a Titans fan...
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I'm the opposite. I am benching Grant in favor of CJ. It doesn't matter which I choose, it will be wrong.
 
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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:thumbdown: I agree. His quickness and elusiveness will get him more yards per carry, as long as Tennessee uses him on toss sweeps, draw plays, screen passes, etc. If they run him up the middle like they would LenDale, then no, he won't have a good day. He should have at least 4 catches and if they are success ful early look for 5-6. I'm going with Johnson, but I was planning on starting him anyway. No platoon for me.
 
I am benching him for no one. As other said, it is Lendale up the gut that will suffer vs. MIN. CJ on tosses and sweeps should produce yardage. Plus, I have to think if the running game fails they will get him the ball in space via screens and dump-offs.

Plus, with Lendale now banged up, he will get even more of the touches.

I expect 120+ total yards, and hopefully a score.

 
CJ will have a tough day but he is the type of RB that could exploit the Minny run D. They play really tight to the line of scrimmage and they're very physical and very aggressive. But they are most tough up the middle. Their gap penetration is dominating. Both Pat and Kevin Williams do a great job of beating linemen to their blocks and normally win when singled. But that's a problem for LenDale to figure out. I could see CJ using his quickness in space to get some big plays off cutbacks that take advantage of the over aggressive defensive line. And the Vikings D does not play as well on the road. I would not bench CJ for a RB like Edge or Selvin Young simply because of the Vikings stout run D. If you are considering a RB like Perry, well that's a tougher decision. Perry could have a big day against the Browns.

 
Can you guys please stop with the LBJ it just sounds dumb. Flash is much more like him.

Now on to the topic

I'am still up in the air here Fisher is no fool he knows that Min is a tuff team to run on .And he know this team can be passed on but he does not have the offence to do that.So i think at best Flash gets 12-16 carrys for 45-60 yrds and no tds and maby 5 rec for 25 yrds.

I dont play in a ppr leauge so i'am just going to play Felix Jones and hope he bust a long one again

GL guys

 
FUBAR said:
Ryan Grant busted a 57 yard run against them, with 92 total yards.

Addai and the Carolina crew do not have CJ3's skill set.

The Titans will not be able to run up the middle, thus severely limiting White, but CJ3 should be able to break it outside a couple times.

I was considering benching him for Perry, but I'm pretty sure I'll be starting him this week. I'm prepared to be disappointed, but I'm hopeful.
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I agree that things will be tough up the middle. I'm looking/hoping for screens and swing passes to get around the run-stopping Vikes. This means CJ3 should be OK.With injuries and byes, I don't have any other choice anyways, so maybe I'm just talking myself into making it sound better than it really is.

Maybe not the best vote of confidence, but I'm starting him.

 
The fact that Minnesota have a great run defense up the middle is bad news more for LenDale White than it is for Johnson who will be scooting outside.

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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I'm with you. Keeping Johnson on your bench has the potential to blow up in your face. I can only imagine the people that had ADP on their bench last season vs that very stout SD defense. We all know how that turned out. A guy like Johnson needs only a couple of mistakes by the defense to carry your team for the week. He's in on both my teams as usual
 
Struggling with benching LBJ vs. MIN for McFadden vs. KC as my RB2 .... currently have McFadden in there w/Fargas out and the pitiful KC DEF so far.

 
I toyed with the idea of using Thomas Jones at home vs. 'Zona, but I've been convinced otherwise. I'll swing for the fences with CJ3 and hope he breaks a long one or three.

 
Chris Johnson will have nowhere to go this week. 50-60 yards should be max production. If that is what you need, then start him up.

 
right now I am benching him for Jamal Lewis, Barber, and MJD.

But .. agree with prrevious posters that he is the type of back that could have success.

Interested to know from the stat guys if there is any recent data how a back of CJ's type fairs vs Vikings Defense.

PS- no way would I bench him in favor of C-Buck , Selvin Young, Edge , Stewart.... too risky

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
If you bench Johnson at home against the Vikes, you will regret it. Chris Johnson is the type of guy that just needs one play, one missed tackle, one missed defensive assignment and he's gone. He is exactly the type of guy you DON'T bench agains a stout run DEF. You bench the plodding workhorses against stout run defenses NOT the speedster homerun hitters. Start him and don't think twice. I mean come on, you would really start Selvin Young who is a part of a 3 headed RBBC over Johnson? You're crazy. Starting mediocre players will not win championships - trust me here fellas.
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:goodposting:
 
I'm benching him for Perry because I didn't like what I saw at the goal line last week. White seems to be the option there and that limits CJ3's upside. Basically he has to score between the twenties and he has the ability to do that but those opportunities are going to be limited against a good run defense like the Vikings.

 
Posted this in another thread...

Granted, Minny's run defense is downright filthy.

I would expect Lendale to have some trouble running this weekend as he's more of a bruising runner. Tough to run that way with the Minny D line.

I think CJ3 will have some success this weekend, but no so much with the running game. The Titans might use CJ3 more in the passing game if they stuck running the ball.

But then again, the swing pass is not Kerry Collins' forte...

 
Still deciding between CJ or EG, who's playing at home vs GB.

right now, I have CJ as my flex.

I think CJ will actually have more rec yds than rushing yds as he is a "safe" play that can help the Titans get down the field and possibly break one of those all the way. And with the Tenn def, their game plan will be to make the Minn offense beat them and show them they can move the ball.

 
vasco75 said:
But then again, the swing pass is not Kerry Collins' forte...
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That may be but from 1999 to 2003 a certain back named Barber caught on average 69 passes a year from Collins for about 600 yards per year.He may have tried it once or twice before...
 
I enjoyed this find from jwinston2 in the LBJ thread. As to the OP, I am starting LBJ over Jesus Christ.

jwinston2 said:
Chris Johnson wants to emulate Adrian Peterson:

And who does he point to as the example of who he wants to be like? None other than Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson, who set the league afire last year by finishing second in the NFL in rushing with 1,341 yards and winning Offensive Rookie off the Year honors. The 3-0 Titans host Peterson and the Vikings Sunday at LP Field. Johnson, who met Peterson in the offseason through Vikings receiver Aundrae Allison, who was Johnson’s college teammate at East Carolina, made sure to pick Peterson’s brain in the meeting for any sort of pointers he could use as Johnson entered his rookie season. “I pretty much want to accomplish most of the things that Adrian Peterson accomplished last year, things such as Rookie of the Year, going to the Pro Bowl and things like that,” Johnson said. “I know that’s going to take a lot of work, so I’ll just keep working hard. “I met actually him down in Miami, and we talked. He gave me advice. He said no matter how I’m feeling, he told me to stay in the weight room and make sure I stay on my squats and stuff like that.” So how does Peterson feel about Johnson emulating him? “That’s one thing from one running back to another, you want to give good tips,” Peterson said. “There are things you’ve been through, that I’ve been through my first year that can help him out going into his first year. “It feels good. It makes me realize that I’m making a statement and getting myself out there to have younger guys looking up to me. He’s definitely got all it takes. He’s a strong guy, and (he has) the key ingredient; he does have the speed. I’m sure y’all have seen that displayed before. I think he’s got the opportunity to be good.” Another thing Peterson told Johnson was that in order to maximize his potential, he had to become a complete running back, not just a ball carrier.
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Source: Scout.com
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In a PPR league with 1 WR/RB flex slot (team shown in sig), I'm benching him for:

Marshawn Lynch @ STL

Reggie Bush vs. SF

Brandon Marshall @ KC

Anquan Boldin @ NYJ

Santana Moss @ DAL

 
Benching Johnson for Chris Perry in one league, and Jamal Lewis in another.

For expected RB production, it'd be difficult to get more diametrically opposed than CLE / CIN and TEN / MIN.

 
davearm said:
Benching Johnson for Chris Perry in one league, and Jamal Lewis in another. For expected RB production, it'd be difficult to get more diametrically opposed than CLE / CIN and TEN / MIN.
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:rolleyes: I am benching him for Jamal as well, and for this very reason. It will probably come back in my face, but frankly for where Jamal was drafted in most leagues, if you can't start him here when can you?
 
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