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I may have stumbled onto a crime scene (1 Viewer)

flyingv said:
So I was on the subject of interesting finds, and he listened to how I’d found some American Chestnut trees (small ones that the blight hadn’t killed yet), but when I got on the subject of the antique blanket next to the spring fed pool, he suddenly seemed more than just casually interested. I described how last spring I was taking a shortcut between two trails when I broke my way through some fairly thick Rhododendron and almost fell into a deep pool about ten feet around. It was fed by a spring that went back underground before it emerged again several hundred yards down the mountain. I managed to make my way around the pool to a game trail that I could use to crawl out of the other side of this well hidden watering hole. As I was crawling, I came upon an old blanket in the middle of this tunnel. Other than being dirty, it seemed to be in fairly good condition. I immediately recognized it as a blanket from an old railroad sleeper car, because my grandfather had given me one just like it many years ago. It had a pattern in two shades of brown.
BTW, this some of the best damn writing I've ever seen around here.
 
Why don't you tell us where this story is taking place?

A quick google search should confirm the "daughter gone missing" part of the story. :confused:
Well, the blanket is located in PA, north of rt.30 in the Michaux State Forest, and not far off the Appalachian Trail. But I don't know where the daughters car was found or where she even lived because frankly, when somebody tells me a story like this over the phone, all I can say is "Uh-huh. Wow. Um...okay." I'd love to call him back and get details, but it seems kind of rude at this point. When he calls me back, though, I will have a list of questions ready.
 
I'm a psychic too. I see the body near a really old Civil War cannon that nobody knows about... I see you trying to sell the blanket to Bill for $25-$35k.

 
I hardly ever post in the FFA but I just want to jump in here and say that I believe this is probably a true story. I live barely 10 miles from Mont Alto, PA and I can verify that many details of this story are very plausible.I know the state forrest area that flyingv is talking about. I've spent a fair amount of time there myself. The parts about horse trails, chestnut trees, rhododendron, and bears are all things that fit the story.It does sound like "Bill" might have made up the story to get his hands on the blanket though. If someone went missing from Martinsburg WVA, there are many wooded mountainous areas that are much closer than Mont Alto for dumping a body.
The Alias confirms the story.Genius. :thumbup:
 
I hardly ever post in the FFA but I just want to jump in here and say that I believe this is probably a true story. I live barely 10 miles from Mont Alto, PA and I can verify that many details of this story are very plausible.I know the state forrest area that flyingv is talking about. I've spent a fair amount of time there myself. The parts about horse trails, chestnut trees, rhododendron, and bears are all things that fit the story.It does sound like "Bill" might have made up the story to get his hands on the blanket though. If someone went missing from Martinsburg WVA, there are many wooded mountainous areas that are much closer than Mont Alto for dumping a body.
The Alias confirms the story.Genius. :thumbup:
The real genius is in the fact that I created my alias five months before I joined the message board.Now THATS thinking ahead!
 
I hardly ever post in the FFA but I just want to jump in here and say that I believe this is probably a true story. I live barely 10 miles from Mont Alto, PA and I can verify that many details of this story are very plausible.I know the state forrest area that flyingv is talking about. I've spent a fair amount of time there myself. The parts about horse trails, chestnut trees, rhododendron, and bears are all things that fit the story.It does sound like "Bill" might have made up the story to get his hands on the blanket though. If someone went missing from Martinsburg WVA, there are many wooded mountainous areas that are much closer than Mont Alto for dumping a body.
The Alias confirms the story.Genius. :thumbup:
The real genius is in the fact that I created my alias five months before I joined the message board.Now THATS thinking ahead!
You're good. :thumbup:
 
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:confetti:
:lmao:
Agreed. We need a :confetti: smilie for Rip.
Ask and ye shall recieve >
:excited: :confetti:

:sadbanana: We need this implemented. It's better than a good 1/2 of the ones that never get used, like :pirate: , :pokey: , :argue: , and :lol: .
I agree......but only if we get rid of :bowtie: and/or :drive:
:hot:
 
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' date='Aug 25 2006, 02:15 PM' post='5394189']

:confetti:
:lmao:
Agreed. We need a :confetti: smilie for Rip.
Ask and ye shall recieve >
:excited: :confetti:

:sadbanana: We need this implemented. It's better than a good 1/2 of the ones that never get used, like :pirate: , :pokey: , :argue: , and :lol: .
I agree......but only if we get rid of :bowtie: and/or :drive:
You're dead to me.
 
This is a damn good story even if you are :fishing:

If the story is by chance real, there is no way that I wouldn't go to the police. There is no way that he wouldn't go right to the police. If his story is real, you can bet that he shows up with the psychic and the police. If his story is a ruse to get you to take him out to the spot, there will be no cops and you are a dead man. People are saying that you will be a suspect if you call the cops. I say your name goes way up the list if you don't call them and he does.

Either way...good story. :popcorn: :popcorn:

 
Crazy story, but it could be true. I watch a show called psychic detectives on the court tv channel and it is pretty amazing how the psychics help police solve these murders.

 
You should have enough information to atleast check the missing persons database for that area, right? Why wouldn't "Bill" go straight to the police and have them check it out? I'm sure you have a ton of questions to ask him. Be careful.

 
I hardly ever post in the FFA but I just want to jump in here and say that I believe this is probably a true story. I live barely 10 miles from Mont Alto, PA and I can verify that many details of this story are very plausible.I know the state forrest area that flyingv is talking about. I've spent a fair amount of time there myself. The parts about horse trails, chestnut trees, rhododendron, and bears are all things that fit the story.It does sound like "Bill" might have made up the story to get his hands on the blanket though. If someone went missing from Martinsburg WVA, there are many wooded mountainous areas that are much closer than Mont Alto for dumping a body.
The Alias confirms the story.Genius. :thumbup:
I can pretty much confirm that kenlin is not flyingv's alias.
 
I can pretty much confirm that kenlin is not flyingv's alias.
:eek: That's freaky. How'd you do that?
kenlin is in my local ff league. In past communications with flyingv, he has represented himself as someone completely different. The ruse would have to be elaborate, longstanding and heretofore unused for them to be the same person.
Wow. Gotta give him props for going to that much effort then.
 
This is a great story...but.....

I think if it WAS true, and he had a sniff that someone may have knowledge of his lost daughter, why would he have left the place, and not demanded to go there stat, or at least call the cops stat.

Great story, but a bit wierd....

Black dot

 
I was 12 going on 13 the first time I saw a dead human being. It happened in the summer of 1959 - a long time ago, but only if you measure in terms of years. I was living in a small town in Oregon called Castle Rock; there were only twelve hundred and eighty-one people, but to me it was the whole world.

 
should I involve the police yet?
:yes: -- at the very least, call (or better yet, go to the station) and tell them everything the way you told it in your first post. More than likely, a detective will want you to lead them to the spot where you found the blanket. If it turns out to be what you're afraid it is, they can set up a crime scene. Leave this guy and his psychic friend out of it.
 
I was 12 going on 13 the first time I saw a dead human being. It happened in the summer of 1959 - a long time ago, but only if you measure in terms of years. I was living in a small town in Oregon called Castle Rock; there were only twelve hundred and eighty-one people, but to me it was the whole world.
:goodposting:
 
Let me just see if I have this story straight. You tell a guy, who is pretty much a perfect stranger, about thsi one time when you wandered off a path in the middle of the woods in Pennsylvannia and happened to stumble upon a "very well concealed small, cold pool of water" with a "beige and brown blanket" nearby.

And then a few days later, this perfect stranger calls you back and says "What a COINCIDENCE - the pyschic that I'm using to help find my missing daughter told me that EXACT story!"

And now you're going to walk down the aforementioned isolated path in the middle of the woods to see if this psychic (known only to you through the perfect stranger) can get any good "VIBES"?

Please, please, do not go alone, IF at all.

 
I was 12 going on 13 the first time I saw a dead human being. It happened in the summer of 1959 - a long time ago, but only if you measure in terms of years. I was living in a small town in Oregon called Castle Rock; there were only twelve hundred and eighty-one people, but to me it was the whole world.
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Let me just see if I have this story straight. You tell a guy, who is pretty much a perfect stranger, about thsi one time when you wandered off a path in the middle of the woods in Pennsylvannia and happened to stumble upon a "very well concealed small, cold pool of water" with a "beige and brown blanket" nearby.

And then a few days later, this perfect stranger calls you back and says "What a COINCIDENCE - the pyschic that I'm using to help find my missing daughter told me that EXACT story!"

And now you're going to walk down the aforementioned isolated path in the middle of the woods to see if this psychic (known only to you through the perfect stranger) can get any good "VIBES"?

Please, please, do not go alone, IF at all.
Actually, it was the next day. The psychic had told him the story before I told him mine. That's why he was so excited when he realized I was talking about a Pullman blanket. I can only assume he waited to contact me again because even a distraught father can imagine how bizarre it all must sound.
 
Well, it seems that Bill’s story of a lost daughter is for real. I just got a call from a retired police detective. He has been in contact with the original investigating officer from another trooper barracks about 2.5 hours away. He will accompany the psychic and me to the area where I found the blanket Monday morning.

After asking me a bunch of questions, including “Why do you spend so much time alone in the woods?” and “Do you usually carry a weapon on you?”, I got a chance to ask him some questions:

ME: Are you like a cold-case detective?

#### Tracy: Well, in this particular instance, yes. I’ll be working with you as a professional courtesy to my former colleagues from local law enforcement.

ME: So did this abduction actually occur 2.5 hours drive from here?

DT: That is where her car was found abandoned. Bill moved to his current home about a year ago.

ME: Is it typical for a kidnapper to drive that far with their victim?

DT: It’s not unheard of, but I should make it clear that the only people convinced that there was foul play involved is Bill and his psychic friend. We haven’t completely ruled it out, but it seems unlikely.

ME: Why the confusion with Bill and friend?

DT: Well, I’m really not at liberty to discuss the particulars of the case with you, but there was no indication of abduction. His daughter had good motive to want to disappear and after reviewing the case, I believe that’s exactly what she did of her own accord. Apparently Bill feels he will get better results with a psychic than a PI. It’s his decision…we can’t make it for him.

ME: So why is Bill convinced you guys are wrong?

DT: Could be that it’s easier for Bill to accept that his daughter was kidnapped and being held hostage somewhere than to accept the fact that his daughter left him without so much as a goodbye, and has never bothered to contact him to let him know if she’s alive.

ME: What about the psychic?

DT: I’ve only ever met one psychic that actually impressed me as having some sort of gift or talent. Even then, she could have just been darn lucky. The rest strike me as just some folks that aren’t getting enough attention at home and are playing off of victim’s emotions. This psychic knows what Bill wants to hear, and he’s trying to give it to him.

ME: So Bill won’t be joining us Monday?

DT: No. If it is a crime scene, we won’t need an emotional father there to further corrupt the evidence. Also it has been my experience that some of these psychics tend to put on a far more emotional performance when the client is around. I’m there to gather evidence, not karma.

ME: If you don’t suspect foul play, what evidence could we possibly find?

DT: She is still a missing person. Also, we haven’t ruled out suicide.

ME: So why bring along the psychic on Monday?

DT: (pause) I have my reasons.

ME: Is it okay to tell my friends about this stuff?

DT: Well, I’m certainly not going to let you know anything that hasn’t already been made public, but I would think that out of respect for Bill you would choose not to discuss his personal tragedy in a cavalier manner. It can make an interesting story without including names and exact locations. Just consider how you would want it treated if you were Bill.

Obviously DT is a skeptic, and so am I, but dang…that psychic did describe that Pullman blanket and its location pretty accurately. Tomorrow should prove to be interesting.

 
I think you're :loco: if you go into the woods with anyone without local police presence, especially after this story. Why don't you call your local police department and tell them this entire story. Get their opinion.

Bill's psychic friend? I thought the psychic was recommended to him by someone on the police force.

This is all starting to sound like :bs: now.

 
Well, it seems that Bill’s story of a lost daughter is for real. I just got a call from a retired police detective. He has been in contact with the original investigating officer from another trooper barracks about 2.5 hours away. He will accompany the psychic and me to the area where I found the blanket Monday morning.After asking me a bunch of questions, including “Why do you spend so much time alone in the woods?” and “Do you usually carry a weapon on you?”, I got a chance to ask him some questions:ME: Are you like a cold-case detective?#### Tracy: Well, in this particular instance, yes. I’ll be working with you as a professional courtesy to my former colleagues from local law enforcement.ME: So did this abduction actually occur 2.5 hours drive from here?DT: That is where her car was found abandoned. Bill moved to his current home about a year ago. ME: Is it typical for a kidnapper to drive that far with their victim?DT: It’s not unheard of, but I should make it clear that the only people convinced that there was foul play involved is Bill and his psychic friend. We haven’t completely ruled it out, but it seems unlikely.ME: Why the confusion with Bill and friend?DT: Well, I’m really not at liberty to discuss the particulars of the case with you, but there was no indication of abduction. His daughter had good motive to want to disappear and after reviewing the case, I believe that’s exactly what she did of her own accord. Apparently Bill feels he will get better results with a psychic than a PI. It’s his decision…we can’t make it for him.ME: So why is Bill convinced you guys are wrong? DT: Could be that it’s easier for Bill to accept that his daughter was kidnapped and being held hostage somewhere than to accept the fact that his daughter left him without so much as a goodbye, and has never bothered to contact him to let him know if she’s alive.ME: What about the psychic?DT: I’ve only ever met one psychic that actually impressed me as having some sort of gift or talent. Even then, she could have just been darn lucky. The rest strike me as just some folks that aren’t getting enough attention at home and are playing off of victim’s emotions. This psychic knows what Bill wants to hear, and he’s trying to give it to him. ME: So Bill won’t be joining us Monday?DT: No. If it is a crime scene, we won’t need an emotional father there to further corrupt the evidence. Also it has been my experience that some of these psychics tend to put on a far more emotional performance when the client is around. I’m there to gather evidence, not karma.ME: If you don’t suspect foul play, what evidence could we possibly find?DT: She is still a missing person. Also, we haven’t ruled out suicide.ME: So why bring along the psychic on Monday?DT: (pause) I have my reasons.ME: Is it okay to tell my friends about this stuff?DT: Well, I’m certainly not going to let you know anything that hasn’t already been made public, but I would think that out of respect for Bill you would choose not to discuss his personal tragedy in a cavalier manner. It can make an interesting story without including names and exact locations. Just consider how you would want it treated if you were Bill.Obviously DT is a skeptic, and so am I, but dang…that psychic did describe that Pullman blanket and its location pretty accurately. Tomorrow should prove to be interesting.
Are you sure this guy is really a retired detective... or a hitman? Seems like Bill is having you whacked while setting up his alibi elsewhere. You might want to do some background checks on DT.
 
I think you're :loco: if you go into the woods with anyone without local police presence, especially after this story. Why don't you call your local police department and tell them this entire story. Get their opinion.

Bill's psychic friend? I thought the psychic was recommended to him by someone on the police force.

This is all starting to sound like :bs: now.
I don't get that part, either. Although it was the police a few hours away. Apparently not all cops agree on the abilities of psychics.
 

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