I may have stumbled onto a crime scene (1 Viewer)

[Wyldfox]

I think you're if you go into the woods with anyone without local police presence, especially after this story. Why don't you call your local police department and tell them this entire story. Get their opinion.

Bill's psychic friend? I thought the psychic was recommended to him by someone on the police force.

This is all starting to sound like now.

I don't get that part, either. Although it was the police a few hours away. Apparently not all cops agree on the abilities of psychics.

Why don't you call their police department? Something is not right with this entire scenario.

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Well, it seems that Bill’s story of a lost daughter is for real. I just got a call from a retired police detective. He has been in contact with the original investigating officer from another trooper barracks about 2.5 hours away. He will accompany the psychic and me to the area where I found the blanket Monday morning.After asking me a bunch of questions, including “Why do you spend so much time alone in the woods?” and “Do you usually carry a weapon on you?”, I got a chance to ask him some questions:ME: Are you like a cold-case detective?#### Tracy: Well, in this particular instance, yes. I’ll be working with you as a professional courtesy to my former colleagues from local law enforcement.ME: So did this abduction actually occur 2.5 hours drive from here?DT: That is where her car was found abandoned. Bill moved to his current home about a year ago. ME: Is it typical for a kidnapper to drive that far with their victim?DT: It’s not unheard of, but I should make it clear that the only people convinced that there was foul play involved is Bill and his psychic friend. We haven’t completely ruled it out, but it seems unlikely.ME: Why the confusion with Bill and friend?DT: Well, I’m really not at liberty to discuss the particulars of the case with you, but there was no indication of abduction. His daughter had good motive to want to disappear and after reviewing the case, I believe that’s exactly what she did of her own accord. Apparently Bill feels he will get better results with a psychic than a PI. It’s his decision…we can’t make it for him.ME: So why is Bill convinced you guys are wrong? DT: Could be that it’s easier for Bill to accept that his daughter was kidnapped and being held hostage somewhere than to accept the fact that his daughter left him without so much as a goodbye, and has never bothered to contact him to let him know if she’s alive.ME: What about the psychic?DT: I’ve only ever met one psychic that actually impressed me as having some sort of gift or talent. Even then, she could have just been darn lucky. The rest strike me as just some folks that aren’t getting enough attention at home and are playing off of victim’s emotions. This psychic knows what Bill wants to hear, and he’s trying to give it to him. ME: So Bill won’t be joining us Monday?DT: No. If it is a crime scene, we won’t need an emotional father there to further corrupt the evidence. Also it has been my experience that some of these psychics tend to put on a far more emotional performance when the client is around. I’m there to gather evidence, not karma.ME: If you don’t suspect foul play, what evidence could we possibly find?DT: She is still a missing person. Also, we haven’t ruled out suicide.ME: So why bring along the psychic on Monday?DT: (pause) I have my reasons.ME: Is it okay to tell my friends about this stuff?DT: Well, I’m certainly not going to let you know anything that hasn’t already been made public, but I would think that out of respect for Bill you would choose not to discuss his personal tragedy in a cavalier manner. It can make an interesting story without including names and exact locations. Just consider how you would want it treated if you were Bill.Obviously DT is a skeptic, and so am I, but dang…that psychic did describe that Pullman blanket and its location pretty accurately. Tomorrow should prove to be interesting.

So you had a court reporter transcribe the whole conversation you had with DT or you just have a real good memory?

 

[goonsquad]

You might want to do some background checks on DT.

Working on it.

Of course, there's nothing to say that someone can't be a retired detective AND a hitman. If I were you, I'd tell the "detective" that you'll double his fee if he kills Bill instead. The old double-cross is a money move. Plus then you get to keep that awesome Pulman blanket!

 

[Dreamer]

Can I have all your stuff after this guy kills you?

TIA.

 

[Flying V]

So you had a court reporter transcribe the whole conversation you had with DT or you just have a real good memory?

Bad short-term memory. That's why I recorded it. I'm trying to see if I can catch somebody in a lie.

 

[e-mom]

This whole thing is getting really creepy. Please bring someone that you know with you. Seems so odd that he paused and then said he had his reasons for bringing the psychic.

 

[jagbag]

I think you're if you go into the woods with anyone without local police presence, especially after this story. Why don't you call your local police department and tell them this entire story. Get their opinion.

Bill's psychic friend? I thought the psychic was recommended to him by someone on the police force.

This is all starting to sound like now.

I don't get that part, either. Although it was the police a few hours away. Apparently not all cops agree on the abilities of psychics.

Why don't you call their police department? Something is not right with this entire scenario.

NO, EXCELLENT posting

 

[Viva Tequila]

So you had a court reporter transcribe the whole conversation you had with DT or you just have a real good memory?

I'm trying to see if I can catch somebody.

Well done.

 

[bueno]

I think it's time to contact your local sheriff. At least get confirmation that the story is real.

If you don't, then can I have your fishing gear when you die?

 

[Ignoramus]

I cannot wait for Chapter Three of this novella.

Good stuff so far, flyingv.

 

[Futility]

So you had a court reporter transcribe the whole conversation you had with DT or you just have a real good memory?

Bad short-term memory. That's why I recorded it. I'm trying to see if I can catch somebody in a lie.

Still leaning towards but...Pennsylvania is a 2 party state, so you'd better be careful recording coversations without permission. If you do catch somebody in a lie, you won't be able to do anything about it without putting yourself at risk in criminal or civil court.

 

[Flying V]

I think it's time to contact your local sheriff. At least get confirmation that the story is real.

If you don't, then can I have your fishing gear when you die?

I don't know what good it's going to do you.

Everytime I think I have a nibble, some dork cannonballs into the fishing hole.

Seriously though, the more involved I become in this thing, the less remarkable I find it. Here’s the scenario as I see it:

1. Some poor guy’s daughter either runs away or kills herself six years ago and 150 miles from here.

2. The father has a problem coming to terms with that and hires a psychic. For all I know, he may have lied about the cop recommending him because he’s a little embarrassed by the fact that he’s gone to such extremes.

3. This psychic makes maybe hundreds of statements in the form of “visions”, and after six years, one of them seems to actually make some sort of connection to an actual occurrence or item.

4. The local cops are so unimpressed with this that they don’t even bother to send anybody from the force to investigate. Instead, they give it to a rent-a-cop.

It’s all beginning to appear rather mundane to me.

 

[Stoneys]

This is getting good. Have you thought about who you want to play you in the Lifetime Original Movie??

 

[Flying V]

This is getting good. Have you thought about who you want to play you in the Lifetime Original Movie??

I'm leaning towards Pierce Brosnan.

 

[Stoneys]

This is getting good. Have you thought about who you want to play you in the Lifetime Original Movie??

I'm leaning towards Pierce Brosnan.

You know, this will be a Lifetime Movie, Pierce is A-List. You will have to think of either a B or C List actor. Stephen or William Baldwin might be up for it.

 

[kaso]

Just marking my spot for when I return....

Oh, and call the police.

 

[Wyldfox]

I think it's time to contact your local sheriff. At least get confirmation that the story is real.

If you don't, then can I have your fishing gear when you die?

I don't know what good it's going to do you.

Everytime I think I have a nibble, some dork cannonballs into the fishing hole.

Seriously though, the more involved I become in this thing, the less remarkable I find it. Here’s the scenario as I see it:

1. Some poor guy’s daughter either runs away or kills herself six years ago and 150 miles from here.

2. The father has a problem coming to terms with that and hires a psychic. For all I know, he may have lied about the cop recommending him because he’s a little embarrassed by the fact that he’s gone to such extremes.

3. This psychic makes maybe hundreds of statements in the form of “visions”, and after six years, one of them seems to actually make some sort of connection to an actual occurrence or item.

4. The local cops are so unimpressed with this that they don’t even bother to send anybody from the force to investigate. Instead, they give it to a rent-a-cop.

It’s all beginning to appear rather mundane to me.

This is how you see it? Isn't this what you were told?You might want to make sure they ain't revenuers looking for your still and your moonshine soaked chaw.

 

[Futility]

Odds that flyingv disappears and is never heard from again?

 

[HERBERT THE HIPPO]

This is getting good. Have you thought about who you want to play you in the Lifetime Original Movie??

I'm leaning towards Pierce Brosnan.

You know, this will be a Lifetime Movie, Pierce is A-List. You will have to think of either a B or C List actor. Stephen or William Baldwin might be up for it.

John Ritter would have been perfect......

 

[HERBERT THE HIPPO]

Odds that flyingv disappears and is never heard from again?

Even money he's a dead man.

 

[Gamblor]

Odds that flyingv disappears and is never heard from again?

Even money he's a dead man.

Ill take that bet. I say he survives. stakes?

 

[Flying V]

I have a friend that used to work in the DA’s office, and through a cop friend of hers, I’ve learned that DT works as a PI at least part time, and helps out the local police detectives occasionally as well. He also gave DT a call and made sure it was him that contacted me about this case.

Since the cops expect nothing to come from this little foray into the woods, they probably put DT on it so that he could convince Bill that this psychic is just a kook and wasting every ones time. Also, DT might be able to drum up a little business if he can persuade Bill to hire him to help track down his daughter. That’s the cop friend’s theory, anyway.

 

[Raskell5]

Mundane or not, do not go with this guy unless you get the local police involved. There is something odd about the investigating police dept. sending a so-called retired Det. in their place on an open missing persons case. I'm calling on this guy. If he really is on the up and up, he'll have no problem with another cop going with you and you will be that much safer. Just my .02.

Oh, and if this is a fishing trip, I knew it all along.

 

[Wyldfox]

I have a friend that used to work in the DA’s office, and through a cop friend of hers, I’ve learned that DT works as a PI at least part time, and helps out the local police detectives occasionally as well. He also gave DT a call and made sure it was him that contacted me about this case. Since the cops expect nothing to come from this little foray into the woods, they probably put DT on it so that he could convince Bill that this psychic is just a kook and wasting every ones time. Also, DT might be able to drum up a little business if he can persuade Bill to hire him to help track down his daughter. That’s the cop friend’s theory, anyway.

Why deal with all the hearsay? Why not go directly to the source yourself? Maybe those that said this was a fishing trip were exactly right.

 

[Tick]

You might want to do some background checks on DT.

Working on it.

Of course, there's nothing to say that someone can't be a retired detective AND a hitman. If I were you, I'd tell the "detective" that you'll double his fee if he kills Bill instead. The old double-cross is a money move. Plus then you get to keep that awesome Pulman blanket!

Didn't you read the Perfect Auction article? Why double the fee if you can bid fee+$1? You're just throwing away money to look macho if you double.

 

[Flying V]

I have a friend that used to work in the DA’s office, and through a cop friend of hers, I’ve learned that DT works as a PI at least part time, and helps out the local police detectives occasionally as well. He also gave DT a call and made sure it was him that contacted me about this case.

Since the cops expect nothing to come from this little foray into the woods, they probably put DT on it so that he could convince Bill that this psychic is just a kook and wasting every ones time. Also, DT might be able to drum up a little business if he can persuade Bill to hire him to help track down his daughter. That’s the cop friend’s theory, anyway.

Why deal with all the hearsay? Why not go directly to the source yourself? Maybe those that said this was a fishing trip were exactly right.

Because I didn't want him to know I was checking up on him, and if I called the police it would have been pretty obvious to him that I was. Of course, now that the cop friend has called him (I didn't ask him to do that), that's out of the bag.It's a little embarrassing for me now because tomorrow when I meet this guy in person, I know he's going to be thinking I'm some kind of Nancy that's afraid of his own shadow.

 

[Tick]

So have you found any meth labs out there in the woods yet?

 

[bueno]

I think it's time to contact your local sheriff. At least get confirmation that the story is real.

If you don't, then can I have your fishing gear when you die?

I don't know what good it's going to do you.

Everytime I think I have a nibble, some dork cannonballs into the fishing hole.

Seriously though, the more involved I become in this thing, the less remarkable I find it. Here’s the scenario as I see it:

1. Some poor guy’s daughter either runs away or kills herself six years ago and 150 miles from here.

2. The father has a problem coming to terms with that and hires a psychic. For all I know, he may have lied about the cop recommending him because he’s a little embarrassed by the fact that he’s gone to such extremes.

3. This psychic makes maybe hundreds of statements in the form of “visions”, and after six years, one of them seems to actually make some sort of connection to an actual occurrence or item.

4. The local cops are so unimpressed with this that they don’t even bother to send anybody from the force to investigate. Instead, they give it to a rent-a-cop.

It’s all beginning to appear rather mundane to me.

I'm betting I'm a better fisherman though, and I'm always in the market for more tackle. Especially if you have a boat. Preferably with a live well.

 

[bueno]

Odds that flyingv disappears and is never heard from again?

Even money he's a dead man.

Oh, I wasn't going to take that bet. Then I realized you weren't talking about John Ritter.

 

[HERBERT THE HIPPO]

Odds that flyingv disappears and is never heard from again?

Even money he's a dead man.

Oh, I wasn't going to take that bet. Then I realized you weren't talking about John Ritter.

 

[Wyldfox]

I have a friend that used to work in the DA’s office, and through a cop friend of hers, I’ve learned that DT works as a PI at least part time, and helps out the local police detectives occasionally as well. He also gave DT a call and made sure it was him that contacted me about this case.

Since the cops expect nothing to come from this little foray into the woods, they probably put DT on it so that he could convince Bill that this psychic is just a kook and wasting every ones time. Also, DT might be able to drum up a little business if he can persuade Bill to hire him to help track down his daughter. That’s the cop friend’s theory, anyway.

Why deal with all the hearsay? Why not go directly to the source yourself? Maybe those that said this was a fishing trip were exactly right.

Because I didn't want him to know I was checking up on him, and if I called the police it would have been pretty obvious to him that I was. Of course, now that the cop friend has called him (I didn't ask him to do that), that's out of the bag.It's a little embarrassing for me now because tomorrow when I meet this guy in person, I know he's going to be thinking I'm some kind of Nancy that's afraid of his own shadow.

Why would you care whether or not he knows you're checking up on him or thinks you're some kind of Nancy? He may call you Nancy anyway when he's taking you from behind Deliverance fashion. This whole thing has got to be Great job! You had me going.

 

[Flying V]

I have a friend that used to work in the DA’s office, and through a cop friend of hers, I’ve learned that DT works as a PI at least part time, and helps out the local police detectives occasionally as well. He also gave DT a call and made sure it was him that contacted me about this case.

Since the cops expect nothing to come from this little foray into the woods, they probably put DT on it so that he could convince Bill that this psychic is just a kook and wasting every ones time. Also, DT might be able to drum up a little business if he can persuade Bill to hire him to help track down his daughter. That’s the cop friend’s theory, anyway.

Why deal with all the hearsay? Why not go directly to the source yourself? Maybe those that said this was a fishing trip were exactly right.

Because I didn't want him to know I was checking up on him, and if I called the police it would have been pretty obvious to him that I was. Of course, now that the cop friend has called him (I didn't ask him to do that), that's out of the bag.It's a little embarrassing for me now because tomorrow when I meet this guy in person, I know he's going to be thinking I'm some kind of Nancy that's afraid of his own shadow.

Why would you care whether or not he knows you're checking up on him or thinks you're some kind of Nancy? He may call you Nancy anyway when he's taking you from behind Deliverance fashion. This whole thing has got to be Great job! You had me going.

I guess it's a guy thing.

I could have lied and just said I called the state troopers and everything checked out. Fact is always stranger than fiction.

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

After asking me a bunch of questions, including “Why do you spend so much time alone in the woods?” and “Do you usually carry a weapon on you?”

I hope you don't find a body out there for your sake.

 

[Alias]

DT: (pause) I have my reasons.

such as? Psychic = killer?

 

[Ozymandias]

Two words:

Hannibal Lecter.

 

[Tick]

After asking me a bunch of questions, including “Why do you spend so much time alone in the woods?” and “Do you usually carry a weapon on you?”

I hope you don't find a body out there for your sake.

The dude asked if he carried a weapon so he'd know how easy the Deliverance re-enactment would be.

 

[midwest_kc]

What time you going out there tomorrow?

 

[genieofperu]

Do you have a Wireless Device that you can post to this thread while on the search. If not is there good cell reception that you can call somebody and have them post while you are out there. Like a live look in scenario.

Secondly, if you get whacked out there make sure you leave your user name and password with a next of kin to let us know you are gone so we can do an In Memoriam for possibly being the first FBG to get killed in action.

 

[top dog]

You should take a video camera with you tommorow so you can post the video for us to see when you find the dead chick.

 

[Ozymandias]

Don't lead him right to the scene where she's buried right off. Kinda lead him around, saying: "I know it's around here somewhere."

That builds the suspense.

 

[Das Boot]

The blanket marks the spot of hidden cash from a bank robbery, or a cache of drugs from a deal gone bad. The bad guys don't know where the cash/drugs are hidden.

The daughter was involved (one way or another) in either stealing the drugs or the cash (maybe she did it, maybe her boyfriend did, maybe she was a witness, etc...), and had to go underground due to fears for her life, or was whacked by the bad guys. Hence the daughter's disapperance and/or no communication with dad.

The psychic is working with the bad guys (perhaps for cash, perhaps out of fear for his life) - the bad guys had the psychic initially contact the dad and volunteer his services - hoping the dad might provide some clues to the hiding spot. Once they found out he didn't even know there was any missing cash/drugs, much less where they were hidden, they started keeping tabs on dad via the psychic.

The blanket info provided by the psychic was true, but the bad guys fed it to the psychic to pass along to the dad.

Suddenly, out of the blue, FBG FlyingV provides the big break *everyone* has been waiting for.

Tomorrow the bad guys will be trailing your group as it goes into the woods - but don't bother trying to spot them - they're pros.

Hopefully your group will be well armed tomorrow and extremely vigilant for an ambush.

Should be an exciting day, have fun!

 

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The blanket marks the spot of hidden cash from a bank robbery, or a cache of drugs from a deal gone bad. The bad guys don't know where the cash/drugs are hidden.The daughter was involved (one way or another) in either stealing the drugs or the cash (maybe she did it, maybe her boyfriend did, maybe she was a witness, etc...), and had to go underground due to fears for her life, or was whacked by the bad guys. Hence the daughter's disapperance and/or no communication with dad.The psychic is working with the bad guys (perhaps for cash, perhaps out of fear for his life) - the bad guys had the psychic initially contact the dad and volunteer his services - hoping the dad might provide some clues to the hiding spot. Once they found out he didn't even know there was any missing cash/drugs, much less where they were hidden, they started keeping tabs on dad via the psychic.The blanket info provided by the psychic was true, but the bad guys fed it to the psychic to pass along to the dad.Suddenly, out of the blue, FBG FlyingV provides the big break *everyone* has been waiting for.Tomorrow the bad guys will be trailing your group as it goes into the woods - but don't bother trying to spot them - they're pros.Hopefully your group will be well armed tomorrow and extremely vigilant for an ambush.Should be an exciting day, have fun!

 

[Corporation]

I think the funnier fishing within a fishing thread is ChampBailey's "Psychics are real" schtick.

 

[Tecumseh]

It's Ray Brower's body!!

The Writer: [voiceover] I was 12 going on 13 the first time I saw a dead human being. It happened in the summer of 1959 - a long time ago, but only if you measure in terms of years. I was living in a small town in Oregon called Castle Rock; there were only twelve hundred and eighty-one people, but to me it was the whole world.

The Writer: The train had knocked Ray Brower out of his Keds the same way it had knocked the life out of his body.

Vern: You guys wanna go see a dead body?

Vern: You flinched! Two for flinching! Two for flinching!

[Teddy punches him twice in the arm]

Vern: ... B-but *you* flinched...

Teddy: I know. Two for flinching.

Vern: Come on you guys, let's get moving.

Teddy: Yeah, by the time we get there the kid won't even be dead anymore.

 

[Mario Kart]

Big Black Dot Here

I would take a video camera to have evidence of anything, digital camera to take still photos of stuff, a gun to shoot the bears, and a secret tazer to disable the detective and other dude if they try any funny stuff. Lastly, I would want a local police guy and a friend of mine going with me... someone who also knows the trails with a bunch of red ribbons to tie around tree bark on the way there.

This sounds to good to be true but is a little freaky as well.

 

[shuke]

Damn this is good ####.

 

[yellowdog]

RIP flyingv.

 

[Parmcat]

Eat a good breakfast, and put on clean undies, just incase....well...you know

 

[BillyBobBoDean]

 

[3MTA3]

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