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I think Obama is a MUCH better president than most realize. (1 Viewer)

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this is gonna be a big deal here though. it would be so ironic if HE was the one that started WW3. i really dont think thats his goal.

he never should have said the line comment, and not send 4 warships instantly, and then add another. this is the scary point now when u wonder, save face and fight a war, a potentially big war, ... or walk away?

i pray he walks away. he is our president. i dont think he wants war in his heart, but now the internet (WORLD WIDE) and tv/radio are pressing to humiliate him.

thats scary. i hope he walks away.

 
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I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.

 
Geez, you know what's wrong with Obama? He clearly does not play enough poker because he sucks at bluffing.

 
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
The Nobel Peace Prize is even more of a joke though.

Home sales have slowed down to a crawl at best. Pay attention.

 
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
The Nobel Peace Prize is even more of a joke though.

Home sales have slowed down to a crawl at best. Pay attention.
Slowed due to interests rates, but ahead of last year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/28/july-pending-home-sales-index/2712507/

 
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Yeah the world is great! :lmao:

 
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Yeah the world is great! :lmao:
Our country is a better country today than it was in 2007. Sorry if you don't like it, but it's a fact. We have more equality, more freedoms, more choices and state governments willing to permit recreational pot use and legalized gambling to raise revenue because its citizens are taxed enough. The financial holocaust created by the last administration was an enormous overhang that we're still working through but I'd say it's been contained and controlled and we're in a better spot now for sure. Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left. Companies that were on the brink of failure are thriving today.

Not sure where you counter argument is here. The world is great? Obama is not an all powerful god. He doesn't reign over the globe.

Be honest - is your life worse today than it was in 2008? Give me some concrete examples of how you are suffering and how that suffering is Obama's fault.

 
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
The Nobel Peace Prize is even more of a joke though.

Home sales have slowed down to a crawl at best. Pay attention.
Not in my neighborhood and not in my city. Certainly, the rate increase has played its part, but my home value has gone up nearly $70K in the last 18 months. Houses where I live are being gobbled up and bidding wars have ensued. Maybe where you live it isn't the same, but are you disputing the fact that home values have NOT risen year over year? Because you would be wrong, champ. Way wrong.

Who cares about a Nobel Prize? Can you name me the last 15 winners of this award without Googling? No, you can't. You only care about it because a guy you detest won it. So what? Faux outrage is funny. Looks good on you, though.

 
GM>remember how you always post that you shouldn't argue politics with these nozzles? You're about to do that again.

Hug your family and go to the track.

 
Our country is a better country today than it was in 2007. Sorry if you don't like it, but it's a fact. We have more equality, more freedoms, more choices and state governments willing to permit recreational pot use and legalized gambling to raise revenue because its citizens are taxed enough. The financial holocaust created by the last administration was an enormous overhang that we're still working through but I'd say it's been contained and controlled and we're in a better spot now for sure. Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left. Companies that were on the brink of failure are thriving today.

Not sure where you counter argument is here. The world is great? Obama is not an all powerful god. He doesn't reign over the globe.

Be honest - is your life worse today than it was in 2008? Give me some concrete examples of how you are suffering and how that suffering is Obama's fault.
^ This. My guess is that millions in our country have it worse...but that Obama just makes for a convenient scapegoat and/or fits their political narrative and world view.

My life since 2008? The only thing worse about it is that I'm five years closer to dying. :P Income is up, financial stability (401K, savings, et al) is up, hours at work are down (making more money in less time).

Check that...one thing is markedly worse since 2008: what I'm paying for health care for my family of four. But once MNsure comes online in January, I'll likely be able to shave as much as $300/month off my health insurance costs for basically the same health coverage. Plus have preventative care all covered as well! So even health care might be a tad bit better for me than it was in 2008, if I can be patient until January 1.

 
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General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left.
I neither like nor dislike Obama, I really don't care. But the financial crisis wasn't caused by Bush or any particular president or politician. Measures were taken by the Bush administration to stabilize things.

Statistically speaking when a massive bear market hits the bottom of which just happened to coincide with the few months after Obama took over.... of course most of the time it's going to come back and you see tons of gains since march 9 2009.

If Bush had gotten a 3rd term, or if Martha Stewart were elected president, the dow would be up significantly from march 9 2009.

 
Geez, you know what's wrong with Obama? He clearly does not play enough poker because he sucks at bluffing.
u typing this to me says ONE thing, ur an idiot or a clown and will be treated as such by me from this point forward.

ill never turn u in though. im not a snitch. and im pretty good at fighting my own verbal battles. lets see how good u are...

 
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Geez, you know what's wrong with Obama? He clearly does not play enough poker because he sucks at bluffing.
u typing this to me says ONE thing, ur an idiot or a clown and will be treated as such by me from this point forward.

ill never turn u in though. im not a snitch. and im pretty good at fighting my own verbal battles. lets see how good u are...
I don't think you know what I'm saying....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

 
General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left.
I neither like nor dislike Obama, I really don't care. But the financial crisis wasn't caused by Bush or any particular president or politician. Measures were taken by the Bush administration to stabilize things.

Statistically speaking when a massive bear market hits the bottom of which just happened to coincide with the few months after Obama took over.... of course most of the time it's going to come back and you see tons of gains since march 9 2009.

If Bush had gotten a 3rd term, or if Martha Stewart were elected president, the dow would be up significantly from march 9 2009.
General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left.
I neither like nor dislike Obama, I really don't care. But the financial crisis wasn't caused by Bush or any particular president or politician. Measures were taken by the Bush administration to stabilize things.

Statistically speaking when a massive bear market hits the bottom of which just happened to coincide with the few months after Obama took over.... of course most of the time it's going to come back and you see tons of gains since march 9 2009.

If Bush had gotten a 3rd term, or if Martha Stewart were elected president, the dow would be up significantly from march 9 2009.
I tend to think waging that waging two wars AND cutting taxes was problematic. I also think (and here hindsight is employed) that greater oversight in the mortgage industry was desperately needed. Giving loans to people who didn't need to be buying homes - and weren't required to state their income in many cases - was just idiotic and a recipe for trouble.

 
kevzilla said:
GM>remember how you always post that you shouldn't argue politics with these nozzles? You're about to do that again.

Hug your family and go to the track.
Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the reality check. Ejecting.

 
General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left.
I neither like nor dislike Obama, I really don't care. But the financial crisis wasn't caused by Bush or any particular president or politician. Measures were taken by the Bush administration to stabilize things.

Statistically speaking when a massive bear market hits the bottom of which just happened to coincide with the few months after Obama took over.... of course most of the time it's going to come back and you see tons of gains since march 9 2009.

If Bush had gotten a 3rd term, or if Martha Stewart were elected president, the dow would be up significantly from march 9 2009.
I tend to think waging that waging two wars AND cutting taxes was problematic. I also think (and here hindsight is employed) that greater oversight in the mortgage industry was desperately needed. Giving loans to people who didn't need to be buying homes - and weren't required to state their income in many cases - was just idiotic and a recipe for trouble.
The Bush White House warned Congress multiple times about the problems being created by GSE's.

 
General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Yeah the world is great! :lmao:
Our country is a better country today than it was in 2007. Sorry if you don't like it, but it's a fact. We have more equality, more freedoms, more choices and state governments willing to permit recreational pot use and legalized gambling to raise revenue because its citizens are taxed enough. The financial holocaust created by the last administration was an enormous overhang that we're still working through but I'd say it's been contained and controlled and we're in a better spot now for sure. Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left. Companies that were on the brink of failure are thriving today.

Not sure where you counter argument is here. The world is great? Obama is not an all powerful god. He doesn't reign over the globe.

Be honest - is your life worse today than it was in 2008? Give me some concrete examples of how you are suffering and how that suffering is Obama's fault.
I think Obama's been a pretty good president too, but most of the stuff you cited that's better today than 2007 either has nothing to do with Obama (the stock market) or happened in spite of Obama (legalized pot). Gay marriage is probably the only exception, but he was against that when he was running for office. I see no reason to believe that the US wouldn't be in about the same spot that it is now if Bush had been elected to a third term.

 
General Malaise said:
shader said:
I think Obama is a MUCH worse President than most realize.
Hmmmmm.......

Gays can marry, pot's a pubic hair away from being legalized in several states, the Dow Jones is nearly double what it was when doooooosh canoe left office in 2008, Bin Laden is dead, housing prices are soaring, online gambling is gaining traction and I can play poker online again. Sounds pretty good to me, hoss.
Do you have a 401K or a portfolio? I do. They are both doing much better than they were when Bush was leaving office. Sorry you don't like admitting it, but it's a fact. The Dow has doubled since Bush left.
I neither like nor dislike Obama, I really don't care. But the financial crisis wasn't caused by Bush or any particular president or politician. Measures were taken by the Bush administration to stabilize things.

Statistically speaking when a massive bear market hits the bottom of which just happened to coincide with the few months after Obama took over.... of course most of the time it's going to come back and you see tons of gains since march 9 2009.

If Bush had gotten a 3rd term, or if Martha Stewart were elected president, the dow would be up significantly from march 9 2009.
I tend to think waging that waging two wars AND cutting taxes was problematic. I also think (and here hindsight is employed) that greater oversight in the mortgage industry was desperately needed. Giving loans to people who didn't need to be buying homes - and weren't required to state their income in many cases - was just idiotic and a recipe for trouble.
The Bush White House warned Congress multiple times about the problems being created by GSE's.
And sadly, this is what "being a politician" in this country has turned to. They all play the "I told you so" card without it occurring to them to actually get their hands dirty and help fix it. It's fine to keep pointing out that something's broken, but if you aren't willing to help fix it the warnings ring hollow.

 
If Obama gets credit for saving the housing industry, should he not be tied the rising gas prices? When gas prices increased under Bush, it was the oil man's fault. Under Obama, high gas prices are a positive because he stated that he wanted them to increase.

The ever-increasing number of folks on food stamps should not be a positive thing for Obama. Most of the media simply ignores the poverty in the US under Obama.

My happiness is not dependent on the POTUS. I have been happy no matter who was in office. My life is not controlled by the government. Sheep like GM are dependent on the government and need a handout president.

 
My Nobel Peace Prize comment was based on the fact that Obama was given the award before doing anything. And, it would be ironic that Obama be given that award and a few years later take the US into yet another war in the middle east.

Obama has said many stupid things but painting himself (and the US) into a corner with his "red line" remarks regarding Syria was very dumb.

 
My Nobel Peace Prize comment was based on the fact that Obama was given the award before doing anything. And, it would be ironic that Obama be given that award and a few years later take the US into yet another war in the middle east.

Obama has said many stupid things but painting himself (and the US) into a corner with his "red line" remarks regarding Syria was very dumb.
Today, in a speech in Sweden, Obama said he didn't draw a red line, the world drew a red line. <_<

 
My Nobel Peace Prize comment was based on the fact that Obama was given the award before doing anything. And, it would be ironic that Obama be given that award and a few years later take the US into yet another war in the middle east.

Obama has said many stupid things but painting himself (and the US) into a corner with his "red line" remarks regarding Syria was very dumb.
Today, in a speech in Sweden, Obama said he didn't draw a red line, the world drew a red line. <_<
How very definitive of him.

 
I also think (and here hindsight is employed) that greater oversight in the mortgage industry was desperately needed. Giving loans to people who didn't need to be buying homes - and weren't required to state their income in many cases - was just idiotic and a recipe for trouble.
Pretty sure that was Clinton, GB.

 
My Nobel Peace Prize comment was based on the fact that Obama was given the award before doing anything. And, it would be ironic that Obama be given that award and a few years later take the US into yet another war in the middle east.

Obama has said many stupid things but painting himself (and the US) into a corner with his "red line" remarks regarding Syria was very dumb.
Today, in a speech in Sweden, Obama said he didn't draw a red line, the world drew a red line. <_<
Except for Great Britain, who were about to draw a red line but then erased it.

 

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