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I was wrong about keeping dogs outside; UPDATE - we got a Moose. (1 Viewer)

Jayrod

Jayrod

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Since it was completely lost in the shuffle of my two dog threads, I thought I'd just throw this out there.

I was wrong about leaving dogs outside all of the time. It is not a good idea and I won't be doing it. I want our dog (or dogs) to be happy, healthy and to take great care of them. Also debating the 2 dogs thing and may just get one because the main reason for getting two was so that one dog wouldn't get lonely by itself outside. Now that we're not going to do that anymore taking on two dogs may be a bit much.

I think we are sticking with getting a lab-type dog. We're still debating the purebreed vs pound lab-mix.

Spoke with my wife last night and she is OK with allowing the dog in the house, especially after I explained the reasons why.

Honestly, we are all very excited about bringing a dog into our home and I'm glad I didn't just go ahead with my original idea.

I'll let those other two threads die because I was getting way too worked up with a couple of people in there. I'm sure some will make their way in here and try to get me riled up again, but I'm over it at this point.

 
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Jayrod said:
Since it was completely lost in the shuffle of my two dog threads, I thought I'd just throw this out there.

I was wrong about leaving dogs outside all of the time. It is not a good idea and I won't be doing it. I want our dog (or dogs) to be happy, healthy and to take great care of them. Also debating the 2 dogs thing and may just get one because the main reason for getting two was so that one dog wouldn't get lonely by itself outside. Now that we're not going to do that anymore taking on two dogs may be a bit much.

I think we are sticking with getting a lab-type dog. We're still debating the purebreed vs pound lab-mix.

Spoke with my wife last night and she is OK with allowing the dog in the house, especially after I explained the reasons why.

Honestly, we are all very excited about bringing a dog into our home and I'm glad I didn't just go ahead with my original idea.

I'll let those other two threads die because I was getting way too worked up with a couple of people in there. I'm sure some will make their way in here and try to get me riled up again, but I'm over it at this point.
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If you go pure breed, based on your comments recommend the labradoodle. They don't shed much and normal labs shed tons.

 
My neighbors keep their dog outside. We have two dogs that can come and go via a doggy door. A few months back, my neighbor gets robbed. According to my neighbor across the street, the robbers pulled into our driveway first, saw the dogs barking in the bay window and moved on to the neighbors house. We don't even lock our front door. Karma is a #####.

 
I'll take you at face value

if you are first time pet owners (not counting what your parents did when you were kids) 2 dogs is a lot, a LOT of work

think about the bread a lot, perhaps something either smaller or non shedding (or not a lot of shedding) will help. labs are awesome but they get big and also ned a lot of exercise, they can be very hyper

I have a beagle and she is awesome, but as short as their hair is they shed all year long, and with white brown and black hair it shows up against dark or light, so it may not be a great option

there are a lot of lesser known breeds that may really fit your lifestyle

 
NutterButter said:
My neighbors keep their dog outside. We have two dogs that can come and go via a doggy door. A few months back, my neighbor gets robbed. According to my neighbor across the street, the robbers pulled into our driveway first, saw the dogs barking in the bay window and moved on to the neighbors house. We don't even lock our front door. Karma is a #####.
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one of the links someone posted says outdoor dogs do not see the house as their area and do not need to protect it. Also they bark more anyway, so their barking is ignored

 
goat will take care of all lawn maintenance. its an investment

also removal of trash etc. can save on trash removal $$$

 
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B-Deep said:
I'll take you at face value

if you are first time pet owners (not counting what your parents did when you were kids) 2 dogs is a lot, a LOT of work

think about the bread a lot, perhaps something either smaller or non shedding (or not a lot of shedding) will help. labs are awesome but they get big and also ned a lot of exercise, they can be very hyper

I have a beagle and she is awesome, but as short as their hair is they shed all year long, and with white brown and black hair it shows up against dark or light, so it may not be a great option

there are a lot of lesser known breeds that may really fit your lifestyle
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Agreed here,

Think long and hard.

Think what you and your wife will want to do after the dog has peed/pooped in the house a few times.

After he has chewed a piece of furniture or shoe. Don't go into this thinking you will give the house thing a try and see what happens.

We are crating our puppy. We tried getting him to sleep in his crate but caved in about 2 days. He now sleeps out.

We will only crate him when we leave the house, and never leave him in there more than 3-4 hours at a time otherwise he roams the house as he pleases and we take him into the yard often to pee and just hang out.

 
I give you credit for seeing the other side and changing your ways. Many people here are unable to do that.

 
I don't think loneliness becomes less of an issue when they are inside. In fact boredom leads to a lot of bad behavior. We always had two dogs. We had Dobermans mostly. And I hate that crate crap.

 
Jayrod said:
We're still debating the purebreed vs pound lab-mix.
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I had a purebred yellow lab I got as a puppy and he was a great companion for his 14 year life. He passed away in 2008. I've also had a few lab mix pups who were also great companions for our family.

My advice is to get a lab mix. In my experience the purebred lab is very hyper. And I mean extremely hyper. We kept waiting for him to get a bit older so he would settle down some. He honestly never did. While they are very lovable, they get extremely excited. I have stories...

All of the lab mixes I've had were very lovable but none of them were as hyper as the purebred. Just my opinion, but I would only get an AKC registered purebred dog if I planned to breed him later and/or raise him as a show dog. But for a family pet, the mutt mix is a no brainer IMO.

Either way, pet pups are awesome.

 
Jayrok said:
Jayrod said:
We're still debating the purebreed vs pound lab-mix.
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I had a purebred yellow lab I got as a puppy and he was a great companion for his 14 year life. He passed away in 2008. I've also had a few lab mix pups who were also great companions for our family.

My advice is to get a lab mix. In my experience the purebred lab is very hyper. And I mean extremely hyper. We kept waiting for him to get a bit older so he would settle down some. He honestly never did. While they are very lovable, they get extremely excited. I have stories...

All of the lab mixes I've had were very lovable but none of them were as hyper as the purebred. Just my opinion, but I would only get an AKC registered purebred dog if I planned to breed him later and/or raise him as a show dog. But for a family pet, the mutt mix is a no brainer IMO.

Either way, pet pups are awesome.
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Our first rescue was a 4 year old Golden Retriever/Shepard mix. Sweetest, most gentle dog you could ever want. She was perfect for us and our 2 young kids at the time. Never saw that dog get hyper and just wanted a good home with people who cared.

 
Amused to Death said:
Jayrok said:
Jayrod said:
We're still debating the purebreed vs pound lab-mix.
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I had a purebred yellow lab I got as a puppy and he was a great companion for his 14 year life. He passed away in 2008. I've also had a few lab mix pups who were also great companions for our family.

My advice is to get a lab mix. In my experience the purebred lab is very hyper. And I mean extremely hyper. We kept waiting for him to get a bit older so he would settle down some. He honestly never did. While they are very lovable, they get extremely excited. I have stories...

All of the lab mixes I've had were very lovable but none of them were as hyper as the purebred. Just my opinion, but I would only get an AKC registered purebred dog if I planned to breed him later and/or raise him as a show dog. But for a family pet, the mutt mix is a no brainer IMO.

Either way, pet pups are awesome.
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Our first rescue was a 4 year old Golden Retriever/Shepard mix. Sweetest, most gentle dog you could ever want. She was perfect for us and our 2 young kids at the time. Never saw that dog get hyper and just wanted a good home with people who cared.
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We currently have two rescue chihuahua mixes. One is part Jack Russell and the other we haven't fully figured out yet. They are both about 15 pounds and very loyal and lovable. We got them from two separate places at different times but they are inseparable now.

 
I have never understood anyone who keeps their dogs outside 24/7. What's the point of having a dog if they're never with you?

And FWIW....nothing wrong with rescue dogs. It makes little sense to pay hundreds of dollars for a pure bred dog that almost always has more medical issues and offers no real advantage as a family pet.

 
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If you and your wife are neat freaks and don't like shedding, I'd seriously suggest getting a breed that doesn't shed a lot (or at all). Why put yourself through the headache of dealing with dog hair everywhere if it bothers you? There are a number of options if you do some research. Like you, my wife and I are neat freaks and can't stand dog hair. We've had our dog for a couple years now and I have yet to find a single dog hair on the furniture or the rug. I'm not kidding, or exaggerating. Not a single hair. Of course, we get our dog groomed pretty regularly. Also, it's not likely a dog you would like (around 10 pounds), but she fits great with our lifestyle (neuroses) and we love her.

 
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Someone already mentioned it, but you should look into Viszlas. Also consider a Boston Terrier.

Also, please read up on crate training. It's another misconception. Crates are NOT cruel and are great training tools as well as a "home" for your dog that they actually enjoy. Until you read and learn about it, it seems like it's awful for the dog but it's exactly the opposite. Especially if you don't want then in your bed.

 
gianmarco said:
Someone already mentioned it, but you should look into Viszlas. Also consider a Boston Terrier.

Also, please read up on crate training. It's another misconception. Crates are NOT cruel and are great training tools as well as a "home" for your dog that they actually enjoy. Until you read and learn about it, it seems like it's awful for the dog but it's exactly the opposite. Especially if you don't want then in your bed.
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:goodposting:

Bottom line is people need to do some research before just going out and buying a puppy at the local pet store, or even worse, craigslist. Know the breeds and start with one. After a while if you think a 2nd is right for you, try to find a compatible companion dog. You can't just go buy another one and think they'll be fine together. Dogs have personalities just like people.

And crating is not cruel when done right. It only appears cruel to uninformed people.

 
renesauz said:
I have never understood anyone who keeps their dogs outside 24/7. What's the point of having a dog if they're never with you?

And FWIW....nothing wrong with rescue dogs. It makes little sense to pay hundreds of dollars for a pure bred dog that almost always has more medical issues and offers no real advantage as a family pet.
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My dad's beagles stay outside 24/7. He'll let them out to run a couple of times a week. They aren't pets though, they're hunting dogs.

We had a collie that was outside 24/7 and she was a dear pet for 14-15 years; probably one of the hardest losses my mom went through was when Missy died. Pretty sure this had to do with our location (middle of nowhere, population 1000). It's just different out in the country; if you are outside your house a lot then you'll see the dogs you keep outside a lot and give them proper attention. :shrug:

 
gianmarco said:
Someone already mentioned it, but you should look into Viszlas. Also consider a Boston Terrier.

Also, please read up on crate training. It's another misconception. Crates are NOT cruel and are great training tools as well as a "home" for your dog that they actually enjoy. Until you read and learn about it, it seems like it's awful for the dog but it's exactly the opposite. Especially if you don't want then in your bed.
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My wife wanted a dog and she is a neat freak. They are great dogs for the neat freak people.

I have never seen a hair from our viszla around the house and he sleeps on our couch every day.

Had him since early July and haven't bathed him yet.

 
Parrothead said:
you won't regret it :thumbup: living with a dog is awesome!
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I'm living with four and I think it sucks balls...Stink, sheading, drool, wet paw prints, rubbing up against the walls and furniture with their dirty bodies....####### great time!

 
Amused to Death said:
gianmarco said:
Someone already mentioned it, but you should look into Viszlas. Also consider a Boston Terrier.

Also, please read up on crate training. It's another misconception. Crates are NOT cruel and are great training tools as well as a "home" for your dog that they actually enjoy. Until you read and learn about it, it seems like it's awful for the dog but it's exactly the opposite. Especially if you don't want then in your bed.
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:goodposting:

Bottom line is people need to do some research before just going out and buying a puppy at the local pet store, or even worse, craigslist. Know the breeds and start with one. After a while if you think a 2nd is right for you, try to find a compatible companion dog. You can't just go buy another one and think they'll be fine together. Dogs have personalities just like people.

And crating is not cruel when done right. It only appears cruel to uninformed people.
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I'm a fan of crate training, but I can't help but laugh at the irony of it in this situation.

 
VA703 said:
get a goat
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on my way to visit the Spangler Candy Dum Dum factory i passed a place that had goats for sale.

I also passed a place that had a sign that said "Rabbits, dead or alive"

 
Amused to Death said:
gianmarco said:
Someone already mentioned it, but you should look into Viszlas. Also consider a Boston Terrier.

Also, please read up on crate training. It's another misconception. Crates are NOT cruel and are great training tools as well as a "home" for your dog that they actually enjoy. Until you read and learn about it, it seems like it's awful for the dog but it's exactly the opposite. Especially if you don't want then in your bed.
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:goodposting:

Bottom line is people need to do some research before just going out and buying a puppy at the local pet store, or even worse, craigslist. Know the breeds and start with one. After a while if you think a 2nd is right for you, try to find a compatible companion dog. You can't just go buy another one and think they'll be fine together. Dogs have personalities just like people.

And crating is not cruel when done right. It only appears cruel to uninformed people.
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This. We crated our golden retriever for 2 years then started leaving him have the run of the house at night. We still crate him when there is nobody home and he goes into his crate to relax sometimes as well. He hasn't chewed anything in our home. He gets up in the middle of the night and goes and sleeps in his crate with the door open. He likes it in there. It's a safe haven for him I think.

I highly recommend bringing him to puppy socialization and obedience training as well. Very fun and also helps you to understand how a dog can be trained properly.

 
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