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Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
In Ohio, they took me out on the road. In PA, I believe they use a track that is filled with obstacles. I could be mistaken.

 
Mr. Ected said:
TheIronSheik said:
El Floppo said:
sports_fan said:
TheIronSheik said:
People who slow down and brake approaching green lights.
Either I'm misunderstanding or I haven't seen this. Why would anyone brake at a green light?
Because they're idiots.

I've seen this- goes hand in hand with people who brake for invisible/non-existant squirrels on the highway.
Or the people who are clearly lost and are driving 20 mph under the speed limit trying to read signs or house numbers. And when you honk at them, they throw up their hands as if to say, "What do you expect me to do? I'm lost!" Umm. How about pull over and get the hell off of the road?
That is why God gives us GPS, so we don't get F'ing lost!!!!
I did this today. My wonderful rental car had a GPS with a less than current map. When I was circling the airport for the third time because the ####### thing kept directing me to a road that had been blown up I decided it was time to improvise. Sorry form the inconvenience #######s
Can't say a rental car would do this, but this is why you need to update your data on the GPS often. Here in NoVA, there are tons of roads under construction, being newly built. Causes GPS's hassle, if not up to date

Motorcycle dude who won't pick a lane to ride in and weaves in and out of cars to pass. He usually trumps his move by passing on the center line to avoid waiting when two cars are side by side. I am so waiting for one of them to just totally get splatted.
I'll say this then duck behind the couch...

Those are usually the same bikers who complain about people in 4 (or more) wheeled vehicles not paying attention and watching for guys on bikes. I'll admit that there are those out there, but the bikers have to drive right too.

:scared:
I try to keep bikers in mind because they can be hard to see. But they guy who rides my tail (or someone else who doesn't pay attention) when passing and then guns it down the middle to jump the right lane before I can move over is going to get himself killed.
I despise when biker's ride inbetween cars or down the breakdown lane in traffic. Why do they think they get to do that? If you want to be treated like every other vehicle, act like you are a vehicle. We have to wait too.

 
People camped out in the left lane on the freeway, passing no one. Love it when they still don't move over after people are blowing past

them in the right lane. They always seem to

have Iowa license plates.
Iowa, Minnesota, or Wisconsin.
 
Mr. Ected said:
TheIronSheik said:
El Floppo said:
sports_fan said:
TheIronSheik said:
People who slow down and brake approaching green lights.
Either I'm misunderstanding or I haven't seen this. Why would anyone brake at a green light?
Because they're idiots.

I've seen this- goes hand in hand with people who brake for invisible/non-existant squirrels on the highway.
Or the people who are clearly lost and are driving 20 mph under the speed limit trying to read signs or house numbers. And when you honk at them, they throw up their hands as if to say, "What do you expect me to do? I'm lost!" Umm. How about pull over and get the hell off of the road?
That is why God gives us GPS, so we don't get F'ing lost!!!!
I did this today. My wonderful rental car had a GPS with a less than current map. When I was circling the airport for the third time because the ####### thing kept directing me to a road that had been blown up I decided it was time to improvise. Sorry form the inconvenience #######s
Can't say a rental car would do this, but this is why you need to update your data on the GPS often. Here in NoVA, there are tons of roads under construction, being newly built. Causes GPS's hassle, if not up to date

Motorcycle dude who won't pick a lane to ride in and weaves in and out of cars to pass. He usually trumps his move by passing on the center line to avoid waiting when two cars are side by side. I am so waiting for one of them to just totally get splatted.
I'll say this then duck behind the couch...

Those are usually the same bikers who complain about people in 4 (or more) wheeled vehicles not paying attention and watching for guys on bikes. I'll admit that there are those out there, but the bikers have to drive right too.

:scared:
I try to keep bikers in mind because they can be hard to see. But they guy who rides my tail (or someone else who doesn't pay attention) when passing and then guns it down the middle to jump the right lane before I can move over is going to get himself killed.
I despise when biker's ride inbetween cars or down the breakdown lane in traffic. Why do they think they get to do that? If you want to be treated like every other vehicle, act like you are a vehicle. We have to wait too.
Strange... this is one, to a degree, that doesn't bother me. I was in stop and go traffic yesterday and I saw a motorcycle trying to get through- I moved over enough to allow him. I usually do that, if I see them coming. But that's stop and go where most cars aren't trying to switch lanes. I try to be aware in slow moving traffic as well- but have no patience for them doing this in regular moving traffic.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
In Ohio, they took me out on the road. In PA, I believe they use a track that is filled with obstacles. I could be mistaken.
I took mine in CA in the 80s- open road.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.

 
I took mine in CA in the 80s- open road.
Well, I just looked it up and on the PA website it says it is taken on the road. But I just went to get my PA license a month ago and the testing center had a road course set up where you had to drive around and parallel park and stuff. Not sure if they used to use that or what. I swear when my older brother got his PA license back in the day, they used that course.

 
This has nothing to do with bad drivers. I really love those crosswalk signals that count down to when the light turns red. As I'm approaching a green light on a highway, I can tell from a distance whether I'm going to make the light or whether I should take my foot off the gas and cruise to a stop.
I wish every intersection had those.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
In Ohio, they took me out on the road. In PA, I believe they use a track that is filled with obstacles. I could be mistaken.
When I did it 15 years ago in PA I was on the road. But I did it with a driver's ed instructor, so what I did may not have been the norm. IIRC he had some discretion.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'm glad you believe your time is far more important than anyone else's.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'm glad you believe your time is far more important than anyone else's.
I am just glad he lets me drive on his road.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'm glad you believe your time is far more important than anyone else's.
Wait in line just like everyone the #### else.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'm glad you believe your time is far more important than anyone else's.
Wait in line just like everyone the #### else.
If there are two lanes there are two lines.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'm glad you believe your time is far more important than anyone else's.
Wait in line just like everyone the #### else.
If there are two lanes there are two lines.
I guess that depends on who is on the bridge.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
I'll get out of my car and throw you off that mother ####### bridge. Just kidding. Its all good.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
I have been licensed to drive in three different states, none of them required a driving exam.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
I have been licensed to drive in three different states, none of them required a driving exam.
Please share what three states these are, so I can avoid driving through them at all costs.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?

Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
I have been licensed to drive in three different states, none of them required a driving exam.
Most states only require a written exam if you don't already hold a license from another state.

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
This is the PA exam.

 
Reegus said:
NutterButter said:
sports_fan said:
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
Depends on how much you like your car?

 
Insein said:
I think a certain percentage of roads should be reserved for those that scored 100% on a driving exam. It motivate people to learn how to drive better in order to get access to those roads. Today there is no motivation to know more than the passing grade.
Like many things in life, how you do on a paper test has absolutely no bearing on how you perform a physical action.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
Moving your way through a parking lot at 5mph also has no bearing on how you drive on the road.
When did they get rid of the driving exam?
That is the driving exam.
No it's not. That's the maneuverability exam. The driving exam is out on the road in traffic.
The extent of the road was the traffic light at the end of the parking lot, make a right and then 50 feet later a right back into the parking lot. All while driving about 5-10mph. So yea, not a road test.Unless it was a test on how to drive like grandma.
I'll ask again, when did they get rid of the driving exam?Because what you are describing isn't what I had to do at all. I had to drive the examiner around in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes. I put at least 5 miles on the car as he instructed me to do many different actions that I was graded on. It was no "parking lot" and "50 feet" out on the road exam.
This is the PA exam.
Makes sense.

 
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
Depends on how much you like your car?
I would rather inconvenience #######s than worry about my car being hit.

 
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
Depends on how much you like your car?
I would rather inconvenience #######s than worry about my car being hit.
Well then no worries. A little paint scrap never hurt anyone. I'll be at the merge point any you can try to stop the next guy from merging properly with a nice red stripe on your door.

 
What's best practice for merging in construction zones?

Say you're in the left lane which is blocked off up ahead. You still have a decent stretch of road before you reach the point where you have to merge. The right lane is backed up. Your lane is moving considerably better than the right lane. Do you stay in your lane as long as possible? Or merge right as soon as possible?

It seems like it's in everyone's best interest to use both lanes as long as possible. But cutting your way to the front is a #### move.
As long as possible. People really seem to have a hard time merging; they have to do it like a mile ahead of time. Its such a simple concept.
Am I a #### for sitting in the middle of both lanes so no one can cut in front of me. I did it this morning, the guy was raging behind me who wanted to cut.
Yes. You are the worst kind of ****. I would pass you on the shoulder.
To bad it's on a bridge with no shoulder. Looks like you have to wait behind me.
Depends on how much you like your car?
I would rather inconvenience #######s than worry about my car being hit.
Well then no worries. A little paint scrap never hurt anyone. I'll be at the merge point any you can try to stop the next guy from merging properly with a nice red stripe on your door.
Cool. You will have a black stripe. Will that make us Eskimo brothers?

 
People who slow down and brake approaching green lights.
Either I'm misunderstanding or I haven't seen this. Why would anyone brake at a green light?
Because they're idiots.

I've seen this- goes hand in hand with people who brake for invisible/non-existant squirrels on the highway.
Or the people who are clearly lost and are driving 20 mph under the speed limit trying to read signs or house numbers. And when you honk at them, they throw up their hands as if to say, "What do you expect me to do? I'm lost!" Umm. How about pull over and get the hell off of the road?
Got behind another one of these idiots last night driving home. Going through the small town near where I live, lady in an SUV doing 5 mph, riding the brakes. Every intersection we came to in town, she stopped completely and looked down each street for a couple of seconds. There was a massive line of traffic behind us, because even though it goes through a town, it's still a state highway. Guy behind me ran out a patience about 10 seconds before me and laid his horn on. To which the lady in the SUV threw up her hands to let everyone know it wasn't her fault, and that she was lost.

 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face with it around blind corners where the oncoming car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!

 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face

with it around blind corners where the oncoming

car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!
Funny. This is totally a pa thing (I was guilty of it too when I started driving at 16 in pa).
 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face with it around blind corners where the oncoming car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!
:goodposting:

I can't tell you how many times here in SJ I've been sitting at the line in an intersection when someone made a left turn in a wide intersection and almost clipped my car. Like they are unable to pull into the intersection and THEN turn rather than starting their turn as soon as they hit the intersection.

 
It's called a zipper merge. You are supposed to merge at the end of the reduced lane not a mike before.
that's fine. but when you do merge a couple hundred years early, don't let someone else merge in front of you!

 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face with it around blind corners where the oncoming car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!
Like in this example, in general, it kills me when another driver does something idiotic, no matter what, and if you honk at them or almost hit them, they flip you off like you're the #######. Just amazes me every time. I want to pull them over and explain to them why they're an idiot, because they really don't have any idea they did anything wrong.

 
I need a ruling.

There's a 3-way intersection upon entering the local Sam's club from the main road. You go straight to continue to the Sam's parking lot, or take a right to go the Wal-Mart parking lot.

2 points of the intersection are only 2-lanes (one for each direction), and have a clear stop sign along with "Stop" written on the pavement.

It's the point of the intersection coming from the main road that leads to confusion. It breaks into 2-lanes for the entering direction. There is a stop sign. Right lane has a white line and "stop" written on the pavement. Obviously, they must stop before turning right (to Wal-Mart).

The left lane, however, has no white line and no "stop" written on the pavement.

To me, this means no stopping. Smartly, they seem to want the flow from the main road to continue without getting backed up.

Apparently, I'm in the vast minority on that though. 90% of the people I see stop there. I've even had a couple of people following me to the Sam's parking lot to flip me off/curse after seeing me pass through without stopping.

I don't stop, though, I do make sure to pay attention and stay ready to react as I know my not stopping might surprise many of the idiots at the intersection.

Am I wrong here?

 
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Merging is far too complex a concept for folks here in Denver. God forbid you attempt a zipper merge. ####ers will cut you off and cuss you out most every time. The lack of merging is the cause of the majority of the traffic here. Mind boggling.

Another favorite is turning right at red lights when folks have a dedicated lane to turn into...and still don't turn on red. Seriously, wtf are you waiting on?

 
Merging onto a highway seems to be a problem for many. Particularly getting up to speed on the on-ramp. Merging into traffic that is traveling 70 MPH while you're doing 45 MPH rarely ends well.

 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face with it around blind corners where the oncoming car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!
Like in this example, in general, it kills me when another driver does something idiotic, no matter what, and if you honk at them or almost hit them, they flip you off like you're the #######. Just amazes me every time. I want to pull them over and explain to them why they're an idiot, because they really don't have any idea they did anything wrong.
I would even be happy if I could do this in a non-confrontational way.

 
I can't stand the drivers who use me as a blocker so they can speed. I do speed pretty much all the time and I hate those guys that you pass on the freeway and then they speed up and mirror my speed from a couple car lengths back...
Why? It make you stand out less to a cop as well. I do this heading through Wisconsin all the time. Get a caravan sometimes and fly.
I am more speaking of the car that hangs back far enough so if there is a trap only the front car gets caught. They mirror every move you make, but from a consistent distance. The thing is if you wanted to speed on your own, I wouldn't have passed you.Just irritates me...
Of all the things there are to be bothered by from other drivers, this is weird to be bothered by this. It his zero impact on you at all. Pretty much all the other things to be bothered about negatively impact the overall efficiency of driving in one way or another. If anything this issue makes driving more efficient as the guy behind you is going to get off the road quicker.

 
I need a ruling.

There's a 3-way intersection upon entering the local Sam's club from the main road. You go straight to continue to the Sam's parking lot, or take a right to go the Wal-Mart parking lot.

2 points of the intersection are only 2-lanes (one for each direction), and have a clear stop sign along with "Stop" written on the pavement.

It's the point of the intersection coming from the main road that leads to confusion. It breaks into 2-lanes for the entering direction. There is a stop sign. Right lane has a white line and "stop" written on the pavement. Obviously, they must stop before turning right (to Wal-Mart).

The left lane, however, has no white line and no "stop" written on the pavement.

To me, this means no stopping. Smartly, they seem to want the flow from the main road to continue without getting backed up.

Apparently, I'm in the vast minority on that though. 90% of the people I see stop there. I've even had a couple of people following me to the Sam's parking lot to flip me off/curse after seeing me pass through without stopping.

I don't stop, though, I do make sure to pay attention and stay ready to react as I know my not stopping might surprise many of the idiots at the intersection.

Am I wrong here?
Two thoughts. First, don't go to Walmart.

Second, if the 'plaza' area was set up correctly, it would have a sign with something to the effect of "Entering vehicles have the right of way." We have those in parking lots here, especially in one with a Target. Just sayin'. ;)

But, yes you are correct, the person without the stopsign or anything telling them to stop has the right of way.

 
I had an idea when I was a kid that everyone should have a phone number in their car that was printed on front and back bumper, side panels and hood. So if you are behind someone who has their think open you could kindly give them a ring and let them know. Or if they are tailgating you you could kindly threaten to kill them.

 
I had an idea when I was a kid that everyone should have a phone number in their car that was printed on front and back bumper, side panels and hood. So if you are behind someone who has their think open you could kindly give them a ring and let them know. Or if they are tailgating you you could kindly threaten to kill them.
More people on their phones is probably not a good idea. I do like the hood mounted machine gun idea though.

 
I had an idea when I was a kid that everyone should have a phone number in their car that was printed on front and back bumper, side panels and hood. So if you are behind someone who has their think open you could kindly give them a ring and let them know. Or if they are tailgating you you could kindly threaten to kill them.
I wanted to create something like Facebook, but the people's ID's were the license plates. You could log on and post on their wall about how they suck at driving. You could also see how many people thought that person was a crappy driver.

 
I had an idea when I was a kid that everyone should have a phone number in their car that was printed on front and back bumper, side panels and hood. So if you are behind someone who has their think open you could kindly give them a ring and let them know. Or if they are tailgating you you could kindly threaten to kill them.
More people on their phones is probably not a good idea. I do like the hood mounted machine gun idea though.
Paint guns could be used like a "voting" system. Shoot the good drivers' cars with green pellets and shoot the bad drivers' cars with red pellets. If you avoid the windows the driver wouldn't know how you voted them until they stopped to get out and look, so it has some degree of anonymity to the process.

 
I had an idea when I was a kid that everyone should have a phone number in their car that was printed on front and back bumper, side panels and hood. So if you are behind someone who has their think open you could kindly give them a ring and let them know. Or if they are tailgating you you could kindly threaten to kill them.
I wanted to create something like Facebook, but the people's ID's were the license plates. You could log on and post on their wall about how they suck at driving. You could also see how many people thought that person was a crappy driver.
There should be an app where you can report license plate for specific bad behaviors.
 
I need a ruling.

There's a 3-way intersection upon entering the local Sam's club from the main road. You go straight to continue to the Sam's parking lot, or take a right to go the Wal-Mart parking lot.

2 points of the intersection are only 2-lanes (one for each direction), and have a clear stop sign along with "Stop" written on the pavement.

It's the point of the intersection coming from the main road that leads to confusion. It breaks into 2-lanes for the entering direction. There is a stop sign. Right lane has a white line and "stop" written on the pavement. Obviously, they must stop before turning right (to Wal-Mart).

The left lane, however, has no white line and no "stop" written on the pavement.

To me, this means no stopping. Smartly, they seem to want the flow from the main road to continue without getting backed up.

Apparently, I'm in the vast minority on that though. 90% of the people I see stop there. I've even had a couple of people following me to the Sam's parking lot to flip me off/curse after seeing me pass through without stopping.

I don't stop, though, I do make sure to pay attention and stay ready to react as I know my not stopping might surprise many of the idiots at the intersection.

Am I wrong here?
Two thoughts. First, don't go to Walmart.

Second, if the 'plaza' area was set up correctly, it would have a sign with something to the effect of "Entering vehicles have the right of way." We have those in parking lots here, especially in one with a Target. Just sayin'. ;)

But, yes you are correct, the person without the stopsign or anything telling them to stop has the right of way.
I'm typically on my way to Sam's, though I do go to Wal-Mart on occasion and am not ashamed when I do.

That is a good point about the "entering vehicles have the right of way" thing. I think I'm right here, but it does feel like there should be one more piece of evidence to help cut down on the confusion.

 
Merging is far too complex a concept for folks here in Denver. God forbid you attempt a zipper merge. ####ers will cut you off and cuss you out most every time. The lack of merging is the cause of the majority of the traffic here. Mind boggling.

Another favorite is turning right at red lights when folks have a dedicated lane to turn into...and still don't turn on red. Seriously, wtf are you waiting on?
I've had some close calls when merging properly. When its my turn, I typically just go. I don't care if you're trying to be a hard guy and not let me in. I beat the hell out of my car as it is between the kids, dogs and home improvement that if you want to rub quarter panels with me, I'm game.

 
I can't stand the drivers who use me as a blocker so they can speed. I do speed pretty much all the time and I hate those guys that you pass on the freeway and then they speed up and mirror my speed from a couple car lengths back...
Why? It make you stand out less to a cop as well. I do this heading through Wisconsin all the time. Get a caravan sometimes and fly.
I am more speaking of the car that hangs back far enough so if there is a trap only the front car gets caught. They mirror every move you make, but from a consistent distance. The thing is if you wanted to speed on your own, I wouldn't have passed you.Just irritates me...
Of all the things there are to be bothered by from other drivers, this is weird to be bothered by this. It his zero impact on you at all. Pretty much all the other things to be bothered about negatively impact the overall efficiency of driving in one way or another. If anything this issue makes driving more efficient as the guy behind you is going to get off the road quicker.
:lmao: jerry jones not only wants to speed, he wants everybody else to help cover for him while he does it. Using him as a blocker is kind of poetic in a way.

 
Another one I notice in PA a lot is that people cut corners. And I'm sure a lot of people do so to an extent. But I'd say I come face to face with it around blind corners where the oncoming car decides that they want to use the middle of the road to take the blind curve. Best thing is that half the people who do this usually blow the horn at me when our cars almost meet head on.

How dare I use my lane. WTH do I think I am?!
Like in this example, in general, it kills me when another driver does something idiotic, no matter what, and if you honk at them or almost hit them, they flip you off like you're the #######. Just amazes me every time. I want to pull them over and explain to them why they're an idiot, because they really don't have any idea they did anything wrong.
I would even be happy if I could do this in a non-confrontational way.
Yep, me too, to help them understand why I honked to maybe avoid it happening again...

As far as ideas, I always thought something like these signs on your front and back (http://www.electronicsigns.ca/alpha.htm) that you could speak into instead of typing would be good to get your point across. Behind a slow driver in the left lane - MOVE or SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT!

 

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