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If Deshaun stays healthy (big if) (1 Viewer)
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jurb26
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My guess is yes. Even if he does stay healthy, I would have to say it will be because he is in a RBBC and not getting the normal beating. Williams is talented and I think Car drafted him to play this year. Maybe not as a feature RB or even as a hlaf split, but to reduce the wear and tear on a talented Foster who has proven incapable of staying healthy at every stint in his career thus far.
H.K.
Footballguy
Interesting article in the Charlotte Observer this morning.
The beat writer covering the team said D. Williams has not done anything to "wow" people in games, and not too much in practice, either.
What happened last night says a ton, too. Foster had two series, five carries and was done for the night. The other starters stayed on the field for the rest of the half, though.
Foster is the Bell Cow here, folks. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Williams is not a threat to take away carries. This is not an RBBC.
The only concern about Foster should be injury, which is valid. However, he has the motivation of making or breaking his career this season...do not discount him.
The beat writer covering the team said D. Williams has not done anything to "wow" people in games, and not too much in practice, either.
What happened last night says a ton, too. Foster had two series, five carries and was done for the night. The other starters stayed on the field for the rest of the half, though.
Foster is the Bell Cow here, folks. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Williams is not a threat to take away carries. This is not an RBBC.
The only concern about Foster should be injury, which is valid. However, he has the motivation of making or breaking his career this season...do not discount him.
jurb26
Footballguy
I think people are seeing what they want to see here. Yeah Foster was pulled earlier than everyone else. Given his injury history, does this really surprise anyone? IMO, it shouldn't. Williams got a few plays with the 1st team as well and even on the 1st series I believe.
H.K.
Footballguy
I live here. Its Foster's job. In a pre-season game, Fox ran his #1 draft pick with the starters to see what he had. He did the same thing last year with Thomas Davis.
Here are Foster's numbers from Week 12 through the playoffs last year:
Averaged 20 carries a game
Rushed for 98.6 yards game (4.9 YPC)
Caught 11 passes for 80 yards and Scored three TD's
That's a seven game stretch of averaging 110 total yards a game.
Worry about Foster's health....do not worry about RBBC.
jurb26
Footballguy
7 game stretch in which he only scored 3 TDs and again... did not remain healthy. His health issues are directly related to why it will be a RBBC.
H.K.
Footballguy
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omally
Footballguy
Coach Fox is a pretty straight forward guy, and he has said over and over again how pleased he is with Foster, and how excited they are to have him as the feature back this year. The running back coach, also the OC, and Delhomme, have also commented on how they expect big things from Foster as the feature back this year. I don't know why it is hard for people to understand he will be starter, with Williams spelling him. They would also like to use Williams as the kick off returner if he is up for the task. There is absolutely no running back controversy over who will be the feature back this year.
jurb26
Footballguy
omally
Footballguy
No, you said it will be a RBBC. All featured backs get spelled, but that does not make it a RBBC.This is exactly what I just said.
jurb26
Footballguy
I do not feel that Foster can be trusted as a "feature RB" given his history of injury. Maybe we define RBBC a bit differently, but in order to keep Foster healthy, I would have to think Car spells him more than your normal feature RBs.M.Anderson was the starter and "feature RB" in Den last year but T.Bell sure got a good amount of PT. I can see a similar role this year in Car.No, you said it will be a RBBC. All featured backs get spelled, but that does not make it a RBBC.
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Mapmaker
Footballguy
As a Portis/Foster owner I really REALLY hope yer right!
Having FTaylor/GJones as insurance isn't exactly comfortable now that Portis has a shoulder injury ... so Foster needs to really step up and be the MAN for his first complete injury free Pro Bowl starting RB type season ... what the hey ... I can dream can't I ???
Having FTaylor/GJones as insurance isn't exactly comfortable now that Portis has a shoulder injury ... so Foster needs to really step up and be the MAN for his first complete injury free Pro Bowl starting RB type season ... what the hey ... I can dream can't I ???
Eradicator
Footballguy
All accounts I've heard indicate that Foster will be the primary back and D. Williams will spell him. That being said, ALL RB's get a breather at some point. I am very high on Foster and choose to believe that he'll receive typical 'primary back' touches. I don't put a great deal of stock in the 'injury propensity'. I think it's as much random as anything, except for 2 factors- 1. A player who refuses to play hurt (ala Fred Taylor) or 2. A player coming off an injury (Javon Walker). Foster isn't coming off an injury and I don't think can be labled a Fred Taylor refusing-to-play-hurt type yet.
All of this combined, I'm set to perhaps take a gamble and take Foster considerably earlier than his ADP. He's one of those guys where all of the stars are aligned for him this season. He's- healthy, experienced, the unquestioned #1 (including goal line touches), playing for a Super Bowl contender, and in his physical prime. I add all this up and compare it to others being taken before him such as the likes of- W. Dunn, J. Lewis, Willie Parker, Chester Taylor, DDavis and to me, it's a no-brainer.
If I do take him, I will make sure and get DWilliams though
All of this combined, I'm set to perhaps take a gamble and take Foster considerably earlier than his ADP. He's one of those guys where all of the stars are aligned for him this season. He's- healthy, experienced, the unquestioned #1 (including goal line touches), playing for a Super Bowl contender, and in his physical prime. I add all this up and compare it to others being taken before him such as the likes of- W. Dunn, J. Lewis, Willie Parker, Chester Taylor, DDavis and to me, it's a no-brainer.
If I do take him, I will make sure and get DWilliams though
He broke his leg (ankle?) in the playoffs last year, so he is coming off an injury. But he is healthy right now.
H.K.
Footballguy
A logical assumption would be a split role between Goings - Williams, and maybe even some Hoover sprinkled in....and then Fox would rely more on the most effective RB over time.I'm far from being an expert on the Carolina RB situation, but if Foster does get hurt, I'm not entirely convinced that it wouldn't be Nick Goings who'd get the majority of the work (with DeAngelo providing a change of pace). Just my.
diesel7982
Footballguy
H.K.
Footballguy
Assuming health, I'd estimate he's top 15 or better, too.But Im loving that people still cant figure this out.Foster = top 10 RB in 2006
jurb26
Footballguy
Boy, never heard that before...
H.K.
Footballguy
Its pre-season, all things are possible!
jurb26
Footballguy
True dat.Its pre-season, all things are possible!
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
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diesel7982
Footballguy
Like LenDale White will be a high-character, well conditioned athlete?True dat.Its pre-season, all things are possible!
jurb26
Footballguy
Looks as though Chris Brwon is the one you should be worrying about as far as conditioning goes.Like LenDale White will be a high-character, well conditioned athlete?True dat.Its pre-season, all things are possible!
Forgot My Crystal
Footballguy
HK - thanks for local knowledge, given your thoughts on Foster - how would you rank Foster, Dillon, Dunn and Droughns?
H.K.
Footballguy
Thanks, I'll answer your question if you provide scoring system. PPR changes things a bit, as would a TD heavy format.FYI, I told everyone here prior to camp Shelton was gone, it wll happen soon:
Also, just b/c Williams was their first draft pick, doesn't mean he'll play:
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The only two issues with Foster are well established; Injuries.
As for Williams, I've been saying that DeAngelo Williams is the next JJ Arrington. Short, stocky back who was a monster in college, against weak defenses, but won't ammount to anything in the NFL. Because he doesn't have power, nor is he fast enough to turn the corner or burst into a hole.
As for Williams, I've been saying that DeAngelo Williams is the next JJ Arrington. Short, stocky back who was a monster in college, against weak defenses, but won't ammount to anything in the NFL. Because he doesn't have power, nor is he fast enough to turn the corner or burst into a hole.
walkwithme
Footballguy
Deangelo poses no real threat to Foster unless an injury occurs. I can't see Foster as a top ten but I see him finishing anywhere from 15-20. Which isn't bad being he is my RB3/Flex starter in a 12 team league and I have a potential RB2-in my RB3 slot. I think this is the year the Panthers pass more than run
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
I don't see the Panthers throwing more this year. I think they will be balanced. If they do throw a lot, last year Foster was second in receptions behind SSmith. Of course the Panthers WR's look much better this year, but still Foster will get some receptions too.
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