If Lebron took his career to Football (1 Viewer)

[chris1969]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

I am about the last guy on earth who would defend Lebron. I'm even a borderline hater. With that being said..Have you ever seen him play? Have you never played basketball before? To say he doesn't have lateral quickness is absurd. You're not driving around guys into the lane without lateral quickness, and he is probably the most devastating player in the league at attacking the rim.

every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason)

Good luck with that.

You do understand that in the NBA you are not allowed to make contact with the offensive player, right?

You do understand that a 200 lb CB = lose against a 250 WR right?

 

[chris1969]

These are High school measurements...6' 8"250 lbs4.40 40 yd dash

He's was bigger and faster than Gates is now, when he was in HS.He jumps higher than most current or past NBA or NFL players.He has great hands.He has great decision making skills.He's still only 25 years old.I personally would like to see him play free safety, but he could play WR, TE, CB, FS, SS, OLB, ILB, if he wanted to.

Are you guys really taking his high school 40 times seriously? Ummm, come on now. Hands/decision making on a basket ball court are far different than hands/decision making on a football field.

His 40 time now might not be much different.Its not like he is that old or out of shape.I think the point is, his measurables and athleticism and work ethic would be very favorable.IMO, anyone saying he could not do it or would be bad...is completely foolish or just fishing.

My point is that high school 40 times are notoriously inaccurate and that time was probably largely inflated. So even if he does still have the same kind of speed as he did in high school, that speed is not as fast as that time. I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Your right, HS times are inflated going into college as much as college times are inflated going into the pros. But Lebron's reported 40 time was from the college scouts and not the HS coach. Unless your argument is that college scouts can't work a stop-watch, I think you might be wrong here, as almost every college scout in the country paid him a visit.

If the NFL felt they could trust college coaches there would be no need for Pro Days and the combine.

Yep, same argument for the college scouts and the HS coaches. Which is why I trusted the college scouts.

 

[jurb26]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Your just making stuff up now! Tell me which CB's would be throwing around a 6' 8" 250 lb WR? The guy is big enough to play tackle for Denver! Also slow feet? Have you watched this guy play? The guy makes 3 moves before a player reacts. The only thing you got partially right may have been the route running, but they don't teach proper route running in HS. There's no way you can be sure he'd blow it in college, let alone the pros.

When he goes against a NFL DB he will make one move and the DB will initiate contact. This is a foul in the NBA so of course he can make 3 moves before the other guy does anything. FYI, CBs do not look to "throw guys around." They look to disrupt their timing with the QB and throw off the intended route. It's not a matter of throwing anyone around. It's a matter of executing your assignment well enough to disrupt the offense.

 

[chris1969]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Your just making stuff up now! Tell me which CB's would be throwing around a 6' 8" 250 lb WR? The guy is big enough to play tackle for Denver! Also slow feet? Have you watched this guy play? The guy makes 3 moves before a player reacts. The only thing you got partially right may have been the route running, but they don't teach proper route running in HS. There's no way you can be sure he'd blow it in college, let alone the pros.

When he goes against a NFL DB he will make one move and the DB will initiate contact. This is a foul in the NBA so of course he can make 3 moves before the other guy does anything. FYI, CBs do not look to "throw guys around." They look to disrupt their timing with the QB and throw off the intended route. It's not a matter of throwing anyone around. It's a matter of executing your assignment well enough to disrupt the offense.

Your itty bitty CB won't disrupt anything but his own bowl movement. Get over the whole "when they touch you in basketball, it's a foul!" thing. Lebron's actually played football, and I have my doubts that you have.

 

[chris1969]

For anybody that's interested, Michael Jordan ran a 4.3

 

[jurb26]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

I am about the last guy on earth who would defend Lebron. I'm even a borderline hater. With that being said..Have you ever seen him play? Have you never played basketball before? To say he doesn't have lateral quickness is absurd. You're not driving around guys into the lane without lateral quickness, and he is probably the most devastating player in the league at attacking the rim.

every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason)

Good luck with that.

You do understand that in the NBA you are not allowed to make contact with the offensive player, right?

You do understand that a 200 lb CB = lose against a 250 WR right?

You do understand that NFL CBs are typically shorter than NFL WRs because they need to have quicker feet and better hip flexibility to turn and run, stop and go and change direction quicker. Being shorter with less needed motion (shorter distance between steps do to leg length) is an asset to changing direction and impeding the motion of a guy with longer legs. A typical NFL CB would have feet far faster than James based solely on physics. Staying in front of him and impeding his motion would be rather easy IMO. It is possible that he could learn to muscle threw these guys who are clearly going to be smaller than him. That however is not an easy task to learn and his transition from basketball has hardly prepared him for that.

 

[jurb26]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Your just making stuff up now! Tell me which CB's would be throwing around a 6' 8" 250 lb WR? The guy is big enough to play tackle for Denver! Also slow feet? Have you watched this guy play? The guy makes 3 moves before a player reacts. The only thing you got partially right may have been the route running, but they don't teach proper route running in HS. There's no way you can be sure he'd blow it in college, let alone the pros.

When he goes against a NFL DB he will make one move and the DB will initiate contact. This is a foul in the NBA so of course he can make 3 moves before the other guy does anything. FYI, CBs do not look to "throw guys around." They look to disrupt their timing with the QB and throw off the intended route. It's not a matter of throwing anyone around. It's a matter of executing your assignment well enough to disrupt the offense.

Your itty bitty CB won't disrupt anything but his own bowl movement. Get over the whole "when they touch you in basketball, it's a foul!" thing. Lebron's actually played football, and I have my doubts that you have.

As a matter of fact I've played and coached football.... Defensive backs.LMAO, Lebron's actually played football. Do you really think there is more than 10 people who visit this site that haven't played football.

Oh, I get it now you're From: Mentor, Ohio. So, seeing that you don't really have any real football players to be a fan of you've become compelled to create one in James!

 

[SR388]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Your just making stuff up now! Tell me which CB's would be throwing around a 6' 8" 250 lb WR? The guy is big enough to play tackle for Denver! Also slow feet? Have you watched this guy play? The guy makes 3 moves before a player reacts. The only thing you got partially right may have been the route running, but they don't teach proper route running in HS. There's no way you can be sure he'd blow it in college, let alone the pros.

When he goes against a NFL DB he will make one move and the DB will initiate contact. This is a foul in the NBA so of course he can make 3 moves before the other guy does anything. FYI, CBs do not look to "throw guys around." They look to disrupt their timing with the QB and throw off the intended route. It's not a matter of throwing anyone around. It's a matter of executing your assignment well enough to disrupt the offense.

Your itty bitty CB won't disrupt anything but his own bowl movement. Get over the whole "when they touch you in basketball, it's a foul!" thing. Lebron's actually played football, and I have my doubts that you have.

Sure he might not be able or want to take the beating a NFL player would take. That is an unknown. It isn't something we can really evaluate.

Saying he couldn't make it because of athletic ability is simply ridiculous. Saying a 200 lb corner is going to do anything other then get shoved to the ground is silly.

 

[Enforcer]

For anybody that's interested, Michael Jordan ran a 4.3

 

[chris1969]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

I am about the last guy on earth who would defend Lebron. I'm even a borderline hater. With that being said..Have you ever seen him play? Have you never played basketball before? To say he doesn't have lateral quickness is absurd. You're not driving around guys into the lane without lateral quickness, and he is probably the most devastating player in the league at attacking the rim.

every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason)

Good luck with that.

You do understand that in the NBA you are not allowed to make contact with the offensive player, right?

You do understand that a 200 lb CB = lose against a 250 WR right?

You do understand that NFL CBs are typically shorter than NFL WRs because they need to have quicker feet and better hip flexibility to turn and run, stop and go and change direction quicker. Being shorter with less needed motion (shorter distance between steps do to leg length) is an asset to changing direction and impeding the motion of a guy with longer legs. A typical NFL CB would have feet far faster than James based solely on physics. Staying in front of him and impeding his motion would be rather easy IMO. It is possible that he could learn to muscle threw these guys who are clearly going to be smaller than him. That however is not an easy task to learn and his transition from basketball has hardly prepared him for that.

Please give me a smaller and shorter CB to put my WR against! I love he game plan of having the little guy get physical! Especially when I know that I'm only running Jet patterns. I'll take the 10 inch height difference and the 6 inch vertical leap difference and show you why my long legged receiver only has to take 2 steps to your CB's 3. Gates has been tearing up CB's for a long time, and Lebron is bigger and faster. Please, please, please, let me play your team!

 

[jurb26]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

I am about the last guy on earth who would defend Lebron. I'm even a borderline hater. With that being said..Have you ever seen him play? Have you never played basketball before? To say he doesn't have lateral quickness is absurd. You're not driving around guys into the lane without lateral quickness, and he is probably the most devastating player in the league at attacking the rim.

every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason)

Good luck with that.

You do understand that in the NBA you are not allowed to make contact with the offensive player, right?

You do understand that a 200 lb CB = lose against a 250 WR right?

You do understand that NFL CBs are typically shorter than NFL WRs because they need to have quicker feet and better hip flexibility to turn and run, stop and go and change direction quicker. Being shorter with less needed motion (shorter distance between steps do to leg length) is an asset to changing direction and impeding the motion of a guy with longer legs. A typical NFL CB would have feet far faster than James based solely on physics. Staying in front of him and impeding his motion would be rather easy IMO. It is possible that he could learn to muscle threw these guys who are clearly going to be smaller than him. That however is not an easy task to learn and his transition from basketball has hardly prepared him for that.

Please give me a smaller and shorter CB to put my WR against! I love he game plan of having the little guy get physical! Especially when I know that I'm only running Jet patterns. I'll take the 10 inch height difference and the 6 inch vertical leap difference and show you why my long legged receiver only has to take 2 steps to your CB's 3. Gates has been tearing up CB's for a long time, and Lebron is bigger and faster. Please, please, please, let me play your team!

Well, you got that part right...

 

[chris1969]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Your just making stuff up now! Tell me which CB's would be throwing around a 6' 8" 250 lb WR? The guy is big enough to play tackle for Denver! Also slow feet? Have you watched this guy play? The guy makes 3 moves before a player reacts. The only thing you got partially right may have been the route running, but they don't teach proper route running in HS. There's no way you can be sure he'd blow it in college, let alone the pros.

When he goes against a NFL DB he will make one move and the DB will initiate contact. This is a foul in the NBA so of course he can make 3 moves before the other guy does anything. FYI, CBs do not look to "throw guys around." They look to disrupt their timing with the QB and throw off the intended route. It's not a matter of throwing anyone around. It's a matter of executing your assignment well enough to disrupt the offense.

Your itty bitty CB won't disrupt anything but his own bowl movement. Get over the whole "when they touch you in basketball, it's a foul!" thing. Lebron's actually played football, and I have my doubts that you have.

As a matter of fact I've played and coached football.... Defensive backs.LMAO, Lebron's actually played football. Do you really think there is more than 10 people who visit this site that haven't played football.

Oh, I get it now you're From: Mentor, Ohio. So, seeing that you don't really have any real football players to be a fan of you've become compelled to create one in James!

Will the Pop Warner league recover?

 

[chris1969]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?

He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.

He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

I am about the last guy on earth who would defend Lebron. I'm even a borderline hater. With that being said..Have you ever seen him play? Have you never played basketball before? To say he doesn't have lateral quickness is absurd. You're not driving around guys into the lane without lateral quickness, and he is probably the most devastating player in the league at attacking the rim.

every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason)

Good luck with that.

You do understand that in the NBA you are not allowed to make contact with the offensive player, right?

You do understand that a 200 lb CB = lose against a 250 WR right?

You do understand that NFL CBs are typically shorter than NFL WRs because they need to have quicker feet and better hip flexibility to turn and run, stop and go and change direction quicker. Being shorter with less needed motion (shorter distance between steps do to leg length) is an asset to changing direction and impeding the motion of a guy with longer legs. A typical NFL CB would have feet far faster than James based solely on physics. Staying in front of him and impeding his motion would be rather easy IMO. It is possible that he could learn to muscle threw these guys who are clearly going to be smaller than him. That however is not an easy task to learn and his transition from basketball has hardly prepared him for that.

Please give me a smaller and shorter CB to put my WR against! I love he game plan of having the little guy get physical! Especially when I know that I'm only running Jet patterns. I'll take the 10 inch height difference and the 6 inch vertical leap difference and show you why my long legged receiver only has to take 2 steps to your CB's 3. Gates has been tearing up CB's for a long time, and Lebron is bigger and faster. Please, please, please, let me play your team!

Well, you got that part right...

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

 

[jurb26]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

 

[chris1969]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

 

[jurb26]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

OK, we've gone full circle now and you've avoided answering my initial question. So what other than the jump ball would James do well?

 

[chris1969]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

OK, we've gone full circle now and you've avoided answering my initial question. So what other than the jump ball would James do well?

Ok, I think I did answer your question, even if it's not answer you wanted, but I'll spell it out slowly like they did for you in the special-ed classes. If you cheat your DB's up to get physical against a player like Lebron, I would run the deep route against you all day long. You say you were a DB coach, so I'm not sure why you'd think getting physical against a bigger WR is a good idea, but I'm guessing at best, your team has 1 DB with 4.3 speed or better and if he's the guy that's getting physical with Lebron, your an idiot. Even if all that wasn't the case, and you snuck up on me with an incredibly deceptive cover 2 and you had a 4.4 safety. Lebron will simply out-jump him for the ball. Please, I know by your own words that your an incredibly terrific DB coach! Please give me more wisdom than basketball players are weaker than football players. Please give me the game plan to shut down Lebron "cement shoes" James.

 

[SR388]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

OK, we've gone full circle now and you've avoided answering my initial question. So what other than the jump ball would James do well?

Personally I'd play him at TE. There isn't a TE in the league currently who is more athletic then James. There are a million question marks and that's why were are all speculating. Maybe James has stone hands. Maybe he's too soft to take the pounding.On the other hand, you objections seem to be that he is too slow and not gifted enough to get separation from opposing CB's.

 

[SR388]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

OK, we've gone full circle now and you've avoided answering my initial question. So what other than the jump ball would James do well?

Ok, I think I did answer your question, even if it's not answer you wanted, but I'll spell it out slowly like they did for you in the special-ed classes. If you cheat your DB's up to get physical against a player like Lebron, I would run the deep route against you all day long. You say you were a DB coach, so I'm not sure why you'd think getting physical against a bigger WR is a good idea, but I'm guessing at best, your team has 1 DB with 4.3 speed or better and if he's the guy that's getting physical with Lebron, your an idiot. Even if all that wasn't the case, and you snuck up on me with an incredibly deceptive cover 2 and you had a 4.4 safety. Lebron will simply out-jump him for the ball. Please, I know by your own words that your an incredibly terrific DB coach! Please give me more wisdom than basketball players are weaker than football players. Please give me the game plan to shut down Lebron "cement shoes" James.

oof.Cmon dude. I'm on your side of the argument, but you can't be insulting to get your point across. Especially in you're going to embarrass yourself like that.

Sometimes you do want to be more physical against bigger receivers. You can slow them down so they can't get off the line and disrupt their timing. Case in point, TO. His first and 2nd gear aren't nearly as fast as his last 2 gears. He also is pretty soft and doesn't like to get hit.

It's far more dangerous to be physical against smaller guys like Steve Smith or Marvin Harrison (in his prime). While you can sometimes bottle them up by being physical, if they slither past you, something that is a lot easier to do when you're small and agile, watch out. A corner who whiffs on a bump on those guy? Instant TD, because the safety isn't going to get there in time.

Where James fits into all this is that he's both big/physical and has great agility.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think some people in this thread are underestimating his athleticism...guy is 6'8" with a 44 inch vert...there isn't a tightend that's remotely close to those measurables.

Pro Bowler for certain at TE.

 

[chris1969]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

uhmmm, definition of bump-and run? Let my sluggish 4.4 40 WR go against your 5'10 200 pound pass route disruptor. If you think it's cheating, i can tell the guy to run 10 yards and stop. What do you think about your CB's chances on beating him in a jump ball scenario?

OK, we've gone full circle now and you've avoided answering my initial question. So what other than the jump ball would James do well?

Ok, I think I did answer your question, even if it's not answer you wanted, but I'll spell it out slowly like they did for you in the special-ed classes. If you cheat your DB's up to get physical against a player like Lebron, I would run the deep route against you all day long. You say you were a DB coach, so I'm not sure why you'd think getting physical against a bigger WR is a good idea, but I'm guessing at best, your team has 1 DB with 4.3 speed or better and if he's the guy that's getting physical with Lebron, your an idiot. Even if all that wasn't the case, and you snuck up on me with an incredibly deceptive cover 2 and you had a 4.4 safety. Lebron will simply out-jump him for the ball. Please, I know by your own words that your an incredibly terrific DB coach! Please give me more wisdom than basketball players are weaker than football players. Please give me the game plan to shut down Lebron "cement shoes" James.

oof.Cmon dude. I'm on your side of the argument, but you can't be insulting to get your point across. Especially in you're going to embarrass yourself like that.

Sometimes you do want to be more physical against bigger receivers. You can slow them down so they can't get off the line and disrupt their timing. Case in point, TO. His first and 2nd gear aren't nearly as fast as his last 2 gears. He also is pretty soft and doesn't like to get hit.

It's far more dangerous to be physical against smaller guys like Steve Smith or Marvin Harrison (in his prime). While you can sometimes bottle them up by being physical, if they slither past you, something that is a lot easier to do when you're small and agile, watch out. A corner who whiffs on a bump on those guy? Instant TD, because the safety isn't going to get there in time.

Where James fits into all this is that he's both big/physical and has great agility.

Your right, I shouldn't have been so insulting and apologize. The special ed thing was out of bounds. The thing about putting your best CB up to be physical was not out of bounds though. I get all bent out of shape when a guy says that "Black is White" This guy is telling me he's playing an athlete the opposite of the way he should be played and backing it with the fact that he's a coach and in a position that should know better. I'm still being a mean person, so I'll stop, but I don't agree with any of his arguments.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Your right, HS times are inflated going into college as much as college times are inflated going into the pros. But Lebron's reported 40 time was from the college scouts and not the HS coach. Unless your argument is that college scouts can't work a stop-watch, I think you might be wrong here, as almost every college scout in the country paid him a visit.

It's not just about working a stopwatch. HS times are run on HS fields. Sometimes "40 yards" is really 39 yards.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He's was bigger and faster than Gates is now, when he was in HS.

Probably half the starting TEs in the NFL are bigger and faster than Gates. That doesn't make them better TEs.That said, I think Lebron James would do fine in the NFL if he devoted himself to football. I also think Deion Sanders would have done fine in the NBA if he'd devoted himself to basketball.

 

[Clifton]

Just because he's had success in the NBA does not mean he could hang in the NFL with the big dogs. He wouldn't last 3 games.

/sharpooler

 

[No. 16]

LBJ would have been a Top WR.

Athletically and as a WR he'd probably be no worse than a taller version of Terrell Owens... but if you ever watched him play basketball you can see how explosive this guy is.

It would be hard to find a more athletically gifted WR...

6'8"

260-274 pounds (28.6-30.1 BMI)

5% body fat

44" inch 2 foot vertical and those who watch him play basketball know this guy can SOAR jumping off of only ONE foot

Work ethic: Has it in spades.... so he could improve his route running.

Contact: Watch him drive the lane and see how many bodies he has hanging on him. I'm sure he can take contact.

Hands: Has PG handles and can catch alley oops. I'm sure catching a football would be no problem.

The only question mark really is his quickness and agility.

I think it's safe to say he'd run under a 4.5 40 (Colston/Boldin) so he should have good enough speed. As for his "hips" I'm sorry but you change directions way more in basketball weaving in traffic than you do running a route AND that's while DRIBBLING a basketball. With his hands free I'm sure LBJ has great agility for an NFL WR.

He'd be a top notch WR for sure.

Here's a good read to show how athletically superior LBJ is to NBA players...

SI: Power of Lebron

 

[Mario Kart]

Lebron = Kicker in the NFL

Umm...huh? As for the rest of the thread. I don't think people are saying whether it would have been smart or not money wise.Just how would he have translated.I think pretty well.Given he did have a background in it...he is a ridiculous athlete. Its not just speed...but he has the size and athleticism.Probably a WR/TE type. And not that it means it would be the same for him...but two of the best TEs out there the past several years were not first even football players but basketball.I have no doubt in my mind he could have made it as a pro.Kicker though?

I believe I was clear. If he was in the NFL, he would be a kicker.

And I believe I was very clear...if you think that, you don't know much about how athletic the guy is and are severely misguided or you are fishing.

I stand by my statement. The best Lebron would be is an NFL kicker.

 

[sho nuff]

I'd love to see him try, but again I doubt he would make it in the NFL.

Im going to really ask why?What about him would make you doubt it?He has the size and frame for it...the athleticism...the work ethic.He does not have to have elite speed to be a very good NFL player whether WR/TE.

His route running would be horrendous. His feet are slow and he would struggle mightily to get off the line vs. NFL CBs (and every CB in the league would get physical with him for that very reason). He has a high center of gravity and runs high in and out of breaks, making him a walking telegraph as to where he is going to NFL DBs. His lateral quickness in not on par with NFL CBs. Sure, he can beat NBA players laterally when it is a foul to get a hand on you and you can set organized picks, but as a WR/TE he would have to create the separation on his own and beat the physical press own his own. Overall James is a lumbering athlete that would struggle to work in space and would hardly ever be able to create separation. Sure, you can say he would be able to catch jump balls, but the effect of that overall to the scheme of the game would be minimal. It doesn't do you much good to catch jump balls if you struggle to get 5 yds down the field and NFL DBs can anticipate the direction you and the ball are going. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how great of an athlete you think he is. One trick ponies are not going to cut it in the NFL on a consistent basis. The athletes are too good. One other little note. There a lot of guys who look like great athletes in shorts but when you put the pads on it's a totally different looking player. There is a reason for that. Overall I think you guys are greatly underestimating the physicality of the NFL. Outside of the jump ball, what exactly do you think he would do well?

Umm...how do you know his route running would just be horrendous? You don't think he could learn that?Feet are slow? Link to anything suggesting such things? If he is playing TE, he is not necessarily going against any corners now is he?Runs high out of breaks? And again,k you know this how?A lumbering athlete? Wow. Just freaking wow. There is no other way to describe that.I don't think he would be a one trick pony at all. And he is pretty darn good too.I think you are greatly underestimating how good of an athlete Lebron is and how physical he plays the game of basketball even.

 

[sho nuff]

Not necessity, but opportunity. You've already told me your itty bitty CB's were playing bump and run.

Your football IQ is certainly not on display here tonight. Why would you just assume that I would be playing bump and run man coeverage because the CBs are at the LOS disrupting the timing of your over-sized sluggish WRs?

With your posts, you are in position to be questioning anyone's football IQ.And who is pigeon holing him into just playing WR?And why do you keep calling him sluggish or lumbering...?

 

[sho nuff]

Lebron = Kicker in the NFL

Umm...huh? As for the rest of the thread. I don't think people are saying whether it would have been smart or not money wise.Just how would he have translated.I think pretty well.Given he did have a background in it...he is a ridiculous athlete. Its not just speed...but he has the size and athleticism.Probably a WR/TE type. And not that it means it would be the same for him...but two of the best TEs out there the past several years were not first even football players but basketball.I have no doubt in my mind he could have made it as a pro.Kicker though?

I believe I was clear. If he was in the NFL, he would be a kicker.

And I believe I was very clear...if you think that, you don't know much about how athletic the guy is and are severely misguided or you are fishing.

I stand by my statement. The best Lebron would be is an NFL kicker.

And I stand by mine, IMO, you are severely misguided then if you are not fishing.Have a nice day.

 

[nxmehta]

The people who are arguing that LeBron wouldn't be successful in football (for whatever reason) are out of their freaking minds.

You can make whatever argument you think is right and pretend that you're the world's best armchair scout, but the fact of the matter is that if LeBron declared for the NFL then there would be 32 teams falling all over themselves to get one of the most athletic human beings in the last decade.

 

[JamesTheScot]

NBA Basketball players are ####### he'd be hurt anytime somebody touched him. Foul, you just fouled me

That was my first thought.As much as he flops and limps around in an NBA game, he'd last one game in the NFL. The thing with the NFL is that other freakishly athletic people run into you at full speed.I'm not even sure how good his hands are from an NFL receiver perspective...yet some assume he has them.

 

[Two Deep]

These are High school measurements...6' 8"250 lbs4.40 40 yd dash

He's was bigger and faster than Gates is now, when he was in HS.He jumps higher than most current or past NBA or NFL players.He has great hands.He has great decision making skills.He's still only 25 years old.I personally would like to see him play free safety, but he could play WR, TE, CB, FS, SS, OLB, ILB, if he wanted to.

I was 6' 2" 215 lbs and ran a 4.40 when in reality I was 5'11" 175 lbs and ran a 4.65

 

[No. 16]

These are High school measurements...6' 8"250 lbs4.40 40 yd dash

He's was bigger and faster than Gates is now, when he was in HS.He jumps higher than most current or past NBA or NFL players.He has great hands.He has great decision making skills.He's still only 25 years old.I personally would like to see him play free safety, but he could play WR, TE, CB, FS, SS, OLB, ILB, if he wanted to.

I was 6' 2" 215 lbs and ran a 4.40 when in reality I was 5'11" 175 lbs and ran a 4.65

Again... at 6'8" I would bet anything on it that LeBron can run the 40 in under 4.50 giving him straight line speed right in line with Boldin, Colston, etc. No matter what his timed high school speed is. Give him the same amount of time to train for the 40 and he'd be a freak. I'd don't know how anyone cannot salivate at the tools LBJ brings. People forget he's as big as many NBA power forwards and bigger than some because he moves like a guy 3 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter.

 

[Enforcer]

Again... at 6'8" I would bet anything on it that LeBron can run the 40 in under 4.50 giving him straight line speed right in line with Boldin, Colston, etc. No matter what his timed high school speed is. Give him the same amount of time to train for the 40 and he'd be a freak.

I can't stop looking at this thread. James will never run a 40 under similar conditions that we see at the combine, so you can claim whatever you want. I won't believe it. His levers are just too long to get moving IMO. Sure, he looks explosive playing next to other guys his size and larger, but next to the elite speed of the guys in the NFL I'll bet he would look a lot slower. If you believe that Jordan ran a 4.3**, more power to you, but I don't buy it because I read it on the Internet. If that's your standard, well, I suggest you stay away from Snopes.** To be clear, I'm not suggesting that No. 16 claimed that Jordan ran a 4.3. I was just quoting his post because I think his claim is equally absurd. Just my opinion.

 

[ratbast]

I saw this commercial too and thought it was cool. How about DE? I think he'd play TE a little like Bubba Franks.

 

[B Will]

I think some people in this thread are underestimating his athleticism...guy is 6'8" with a 44 inch vert...there isn't a tightend that's remotely close to those measurables.Pro Bowler for certain at TE.

Indeed. The guy is huge. Ive seen him at the Q courtside seats. And ive been to Browns games. The guy would beat out Winslow easily (ive actually played Basketball with Winslow at a local rec, where he lives..) The guy is used to catching a Basketball. His hands are great. I Still stand by my post for this thread.. he would be Sick as a WR/ or TE.... I couldnt imagine him coming off the line making catches. IMO he would be unstoppable.

 

[B Will]

Lebron = Kicker in the NFL

Umm...huh? As for the rest of the thread. I don't think people are saying whether it would have been smart or not money wise.Just how would he have translated.I think pretty well.Given he did have a background in it...he is a ridiculous athlete. Its not just speed...but he has the size and athleticism.Probably a WR/TE type. And not that it means it would be the same for him...but two of the best TEs out there the past several years were not first even football players but basketball.I have no doubt in my mind he could have made it as a pro.Kicker though?

I believe I was clear. If he was in the NFL, he would be a kicker.

And I believe I was very clear...if you think that, you don't know much about how athletic the guy is and are severely misguided or you are fishing.

I stand by my statement. The best Lebron would be is an NFL kicker.

Someones smokin on the rock.

 

[No. 16]

Again... at 6'8" I would bet anything on it that LeBron can run the 40 in under 4.50 giving him straight line speed right in line with Boldin, Colston, etc. No matter what his timed high school speed is. Give him the same amount of time to train for the 40 and he'd be a freak.

I can't stop looking at this thread. James will never run a 40 under similar conditions that we see at the combine, so you can claim whatever you want. I won't believe it. His levers are just too long to get moving IMO. Sure, he looks explosive playing next to other guys his size and larger, but next to the elite speed of the guys in the NFL I'll bet he would look a lot slower. If you believe that Jordan ran a 4.3**, more power to you, but I don't buy it because I read it on the Internet. If that's your standard, well, I suggest you stay away from Snopes.** To be clear, I'm not suggesting that No. 16 claimed that Jordan ran a 4.3. I was just quoting his post because I think his claim is equally absurd. Just my opinion.

Well maybe he wouldn't run less than a 4.5 (I think he can) but I can safely bet he can run in the Marques Colston 4.55 range and certainly no slower than Boldin's 4.71. Bottom line is people were bringing up speed as an issue but LBJ has enough speed to play WR and with is other athletic abilities it should be no problem....Size - 6'8" 260 pounds is D-Line size in the NFL. Jumping - 44 inches... imagine with a running start or off of one foot.Strength - currently strong as an ox basketball player, would only get stronger in a football programAgility - Basketball players need way more agility than football players, IMO. You constantly have to weave in, out, and around in basketball. As a WR you make what 1 or two moves?Hands - He has 9 1/4th in mitts... Calvin Johnson has big hands at 9 3/4ths... couldn't find Fitz's but LBJ is in that range. Plus dribbling a basketball and catching 1 handed alley-opps convince me he should have at least TO-level hands. Intangibles:Leadership - he's been the leader of the Cavs RIGHT OUT OF HS.Work Ethic - He's the best basketball player in the world at 25 and can play at a top level as the focal point of opposing teams defenses for 40 minutes a night. We can only imagine his performance as a pro-football player, but it should not be up for discussion that LBJ has the tools to become a top level WR.

 

[Enforcer]

We can only imagine his performance as a pro-football player, but it should not be up for discussion that LBJ has the tools to become a top level WR.

Not up for discussion? Where does this arrogance come from? Why? Because you said so?There has never been an even moderately successful 6'8" WR in the NFL. Like I said above, you can make whatever claims about his 40 time and general athleticism you want, but they're meaningless. He'll never be put to the test.Take note. I never once claimed he couldn't. Perhaps he could, but for you or anyone else to make claims with any certainty here is just about equal to the schtick from the FFA regulars. Somewhere there's an advertising executive thats laughing his ### off because he knows there are sheep that will buy into the ad he helped create for TV. Sure, and Jordan could have been a professional golfer or baseball player if he really wanted to, but maybe he's just not quite the athlete that James is.Again, there just aren't enough on the web to demonstrate how silly this is to argue with an "I know for sure" attitude.

 

[gianmarco]

There isn't a TE in the league currently who is more athletic then James.

Vernon Davis down? :click clack:

 

[Two Deep]

I'd rather have Kobe than LeBron: more athletic.

 

[parrot]

There has never been an even moderately successful 6'8" WR in the NFL.

How tall is Harold Carmichael?

 

[Xue]

He'd be the WR version of Brandon Jacobs. No doubting his ability. Can he last a whole season?

I'd like to see Shawn Marion cover LeBron in the open field. I'm surprised there isn't more mention of Marion as a football player. He would make a great DB.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Again... at 6'8" I would bet anything on it that LeBron can run the 40 in under 4.50 giving him straight line speed right in line with Boldin, Colston, etc. No matter what his timed high school speed is. Give him the same amount of time to train for the 40 and he'd be a freak.

I can't stop looking at this thread. James will never run a 40 under similar conditions that we see at the combine, so you can claim whatever you want. I won't believe it. His levers are just too long to get moving IMO. Sure, he looks explosive playing next to other guys his size and larger, but next to the elite speed of the guys in the NFL I'll bet he would look a lot slower. If you believe that Jordan ran a 4.3**, more power to you, but I don't buy it because I read it on the Internet. If that's your standard, well, I suggest you stay away from Snopes.

** To be clear, I'm not suggesting that No. 16 claimed that Jordan ran a 4.3. I was just quoting his post because I think his claim is equally absurd. Just my opinion.

Well maybe he wouldn't run less than a 4.5 (I think he can) but I can safely bet he can run in the Marques Colston 4.55 range and certainly no slower than Boldin's 4.71. Bottom line is people were bringing up speed as an issue but LBJ has enough speed to play WR and with is other athletic abilities it should be no problem....Size - 6'8" 260 pounds is D-Line size in the NFL.

Jumping - 44 inches... imagine with a running start or off of one foot.

Strength - currently strong as an ox basketball player, would only get stronger in a football program

Agility - Basketball players need way more agility than football players, IMO. You constantly have to weave in, out, and around in basketball. As a WR you make what 1 or two moves?

Hands - He has 9 1/4th in mitts... Calvin Johnson has big hands at 9 3/4ths... couldn't find Fitz's but LBJ is in that range. Plus dribbling a basketball and catching 1 handed alley-opps convince me he should have at least TO-level hands.

Intangibles:

Leadership - he's been the leader of the Cavs RIGHT OUT OF HS.

Work Ethic - He's the best basketball player in the world at 25 and can play at a top level as the focal point of opposing teams defenses for 40 minutes a night.

We can only imagine his performance as a pro-football player, but it should not be up for discussion that LBJ has the tools to become a top level WR.

It IS a question if he has the tools to become a top level WR. Because hands, body control, quickness, route running, and willingess to take contact are all tools that make a top level WR. Yet these are the ones we don't really have any idea about with James, at least in how they translate to the NFL game.There's a considerable difference in catching a football compared to a basketball, particularly a high fast ball with DB's draped over you. Hand size is an interesting combine measurement but it also tends to trend with height, does it not? If so, that must mean taller WR"s have better hands than shorter WR's.

As for agility, an NFL WR has to get separation with 1 or 2 moves, not 3 or 4. It's also good to have speed out of your break. No matter how freakishly athletic James is, he can't cut at speed the same way a smaller WR can no matter how fast his 40 time is. It's physics. His speed and weight actually combine to work against him in this regard.

Is there a CB that P.Burress faces that could fight for a jump ball with him on paper? Not really. Is he dominating the league? Not really. Yet Burress measured 6'5.5", 231# and ran a 4.55 forty coming into the NFL. That's not as big as James, he's giving up 2.5" and 30 pounds, but considering how much bigger he is than the corners he faces, if it were all about height and weight and jump balls, he should be unstoppable. But he isn't.

 

[Lab]

Ahhhh .... offseason in the tank. It's gonna be a long six months fellas, so pace yourselves.

 

[Chase Stuart]

There has never been an even moderately successful 6'8" WR in the NFL.

How tall is Harold Carmichael?

6-8, 225. And he was way more than moderately successful.That said, James would be best suited to play as a 3-4 OLB, I think. Put on weight and maybe he could be a stud 4-3 DE.

 

[dparker713]

His measureables are pretty perfect for a DE, and its a much more valueable position that WR. Not saying he could necessarily play DE, but thats where I'd test him out.

 

[LHUCKS]

There has never been an even moderately successful 6'8" WR in the NFL.

How tall is Harold Carmichael?

6-8, 225. And he was way more than moderately successful.That said, James would be best suited to play as a 3-4 OLB, I think. Put on weight and maybe he could be a stud 4-3 DE.

Why not TE?

 

[Chase Stuart]

There has never been an even moderately successful 6'8" WR in the NFL.

How tall is Harold Carmichael?

6-8, 225. And he was way more than moderately successful.That said, James would be best suited to play as a 3-4 OLB, I think. Put on weight and maybe he could be a stud 4-3 DE.

Why not TE?

He'd be better off playing in space and not getting hit. A pass rusher is more valuable than a TE, too. His frame, center of gravity and wingspan make him a more natural pass rusher and not a TE, IMO.

 

[TitusIII]

LeBron is probably the best athlete in the world, among the best that has ever walked amongst our species. If he was given a year to train/prepare for life in the NFL with a respected coach at whatever position he wanted to play, I'm fairly certain he'd be an impact player in the NFL.