What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

If Rodney Harrison retires this off-season (1 Viewer)

Patriot or Charger

  • Patriot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charger

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    0
I believe he's the only player in the history of the NFL (I know sacks became official in '82) to have 30 sacks and 30 INT's in a career.

A true Warrior.

Patriot.

 
Spike said:
obxlegends said:
I believe he's the only player in the history of the NFL (I know sacks became official in '82) to have 30 sacks and 30 INT's in a career.A true Warrior.Patriot.
Click to expand...
I thought I heard that Ronde Barber had done that also. No? :lmao:
Click to expand...
Barber has 23 sacks.You may be thinking of the 20/20 club. There are 8 other men in that group - linebackers; Seth Joyner, Wilber Marshall, William Thomas, Donnie Edwards and Ray Lewis, safeties LeRoy Butler and Brian Dawkins, and cornerback Ronde Barber.Ray Lewis is 2 interceptions shy of becoming the 2nd player ever to join the 30/30 club.
 
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Carver said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Neither, he will be remembered as a dirty player.
Click to expand...
Obviously...
Click to expand...
I watched every play of his as a Pat (obviously not nearly as much when he was a Charger), and all I can say is he must have done a lot of dirty stuff in SD (that's where he got all his suspensions) because I never really saw him do much dirty as a Patriot. He'd get a some borderline flags due to rep, but nothing egregious that I recall.The only thing that stands our are one or two dumb penalties from a few years ago. Other than that, I don't think he ever did much worse than a typical NFL safety (at least as a Pat).ETA: Just to show I'm an objective fan, I think he is easily the most overrated Patriot of the 00s. I was at the Super Bowl vs. the Giants, and I saw that Helmet Catch in slow motion coming towards the end zone, knowing there was no way Harrison would be able to close in time to make the play. :rolleyes:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Will he and Romanowski have a gig together on NBC?
 
tombonneau said:
Carver said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Neither, he will be remembered as a dirty player.
Click to expand...
Obviously...
Click to expand...
I watched every play of his as a Pat (obviously not nearly as much when he was a Charger), and all I can say is he must have done a lot of dirty stuff in SD (that's where he got all his suspensions) because I never really saw him do much dirty as a Patriot. He'd get a some borderline flags due to rep, but nothing egregious that I recall.The only thing that stands our are one or two dumb penalties from a few years ago. Other than that, I don't think he ever did much worse than a typical NFL safety (at least as a Pat).

ETA: Just to show I'm an objective fan, I think he is easily the most overrated Patriot of the 00s. I was at the Super Bowl vs. the Giants, and I saw that Helmet Catch in slow motion coming towards the end zone, knowing there was no way Harrison would be able to close in time to make the play. :sadbanana:
Click to expand...
Wow... couldn't disagree more, especially since Deion Branch was on those teams. Watch that replay again (if you can stomach it) - Harrison may not have broken the play up, but Asante Samuel completely gave up on it. Had he been going full speed, he likely could have jarred the ball loose.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Dirty player

Roid abuser

Let him take his rightful place in the ticket line in Canton next to Bill Romanowski.

 
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Dirty playerRoid userThanks anyway...
Click to expand...
You'd be a fool to pass on a player like Rodney Harrison in his prime.
Click to expand...
Why, are there no other players capable of playing to his roid-induced level? Many teams would pass on someone known as a dirty player or a player known to have used PEDs. Just like many teams will pass on Michael Vick even though he would likely be one of the best athletes on their team.
 
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Dirty playerRoid userThanks anyway...
Click to expand...
You'd be a fool to pass on a player like Rodney Harrison in his prime.
Click to expand...
Why, are there no other players capable of playing to his roid-induced level? Many teams would pass on someone known as a dirty player or a player known to have used PEDs. Just like many teams will pass on Michael Vick even though he would likely be one of the best athletes on their team.
Click to expand...
He took HGH to hasten his return from injury (and his case, I actually do believe him).As for being a dirty player - please. You really think teams care? In fact, they'd probably rather have him on their side than have to play against him.No team in the league would pass on Harrison in his prime. Not one. Great player, great leader. Not even remotely the same situation as Vick.
 
I'll always remember him as a Charger... don't even think of him as a Patriot to be honest.

 
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Dirty playerRoid userThanks anyway...
Click to expand...
You'd be a fool to pass on a player like Rodney Harrison in his prime.
Click to expand...
Why, are there no other players capable of playing to his roid-induced level? Many teams would pass on someone known as a dirty player or a player known to have used PEDs. Just like many teams will pass on Michael Vick even though he would likely be one of the best athletes on their team.
Click to expand...
He took HGH to hasten his return from injury (and his case, I actually do believe him).As for being a dirty player - please. You really think teams care? In fact, they'd probably rather have him on their side than have to play against him.No team in the league would pass on Harrison in his prime. Not one. Great player, great leader. Not even remotely the same situation as Vick.
Click to expand...
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?
 
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Dirty playerRoid userThanks anyway...
Click to expand...
You'd be a fool to pass on a player like Rodney Harrison in his prime.
Click to expand...
Why, are there no other players capable of playing to his roid-induced level? Many teams would pass on someone known as a dirty player or a player known to have used PEDs. Just like many teams will pass on Michael Vick even though he would likely be one of the best athletes on their team.
Click to expand...
He took HGH to hasten his return from injury (and his case, I actually do believe him).As for being a dirty player - please. You really think teams care? In fact, they'd probably rather have him on their side than have to play against him.No team in the league would pass on Harrison in his prime. Not one. Great player, great leader. Not even remotely the same situation as Vick.
Click to expand...
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?
Click to expand...
I suppose that is somewhat up for debate. Only in his first two years here did he play in all 16 games, and I think he was a classic example of a guy who made up for declining physical ability with increased intelligence & knowledge of the game later on in his career. As an individual, the best years of his career probably came in San Diego, but he was still a great player in New England - maybe not at the absolute apex of his career, but certainly still one of the best safeties in the game.I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that question, but I know that most teams in the NFL thought that he had little or nothing left in the tank when he left San Diego (obviously, he proved them wrong, but as I'm sure you know, nobody loved to play the "nobody believes in me/us" card more than Rodney). I remember reading that one of his primary reasons for signing with New England was that the Pats were committed to signing him right from the beginning, and did not ask him to work out first, as all of the other teams that had shown interest in him had.
 
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Not by the league's players.
 
cstu said:
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Not by the league's players.
Click to expand...
Maybe the highest compliment you could pay a safety.
 
Adebisi said:
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?I suppose that is somewhat up for debate. Only in his first two years here did he play in all 16 games, and I think he was a classic example of a guy who made up for declining physical ability with increased intelligence & knowledge of the game later on in his career. As an individual, the best years of his career probably came in San Diego, but he was still a great player in New England - maybe not at the absolute apex of his career, but certainly still one of the best safeties in the game.I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that question, but I know that most teams in the NFL thought that he had little or nothing left in the tank when he left San Diego (obviously, he proved them wrong, but as I'm sure you know, nobody loved to play the "nobody believes in me/us" card more than Rodney). I remember reading that one of his primary reasons for signing with New England was that the Pats were committed to signing him right from the beginning, and did not ask him to work out first, as all of the other teams that had shown interest in him had.
Click to expand...
The reason I asked the question is that I believe he was still at the top of his game and there were several teams that had zero desire for him to be on their teams. This differs from your assertion that "you'd be a fool to pass on him in his prime". He was a good player who was caught cheating and was known as a dirty player around the league. Again, I say thanks anyway...
 
Adebisi said:
cstu said:
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Not by the league's players.
Click to expand...
Maybe the highest compliment you could pay a safety.
Click to expand...
Yes, especially a cheap shot artist.
 
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
And I thought Football Night In America couldn't get any worse. :confused:
 
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?

I suppose that is somewhat up for debate. Only in his first two years here did he play in all 16 games, and I think he was a classic example of a guy who made up for declining physical ability with increased intelligence & knowledge of the game later on in his career. As an individual, the best years of his career probably came in San Diego, but he was still a great player in New England - maybe not at the absolute apex of his career, but certainly still one of the best safeties in the game.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that question, but I know that most teams in the NFL thought that he had little or nothing left in the tank when he left San Diego (obviously, he proved them wrong, but as I'm sure you know, nobody loved to play the "nobody believes in me/us" card more than Rodney). I remember reading that one of his primary reasons for signing with New England was that the Pats were committed to signing him right from the beginning, and did not ask him to work out first, as all of the other teams that had shown interest in him had.
Click to expand...
The reason I asked the question is that I believe he was still at the top of his game and there were several teams that had zero desire for him to be on their teams. This differs from your assertion that "you'd be a fool to pass on him in his prime". He was a good player who was caught cheating and was known as a dirty player around the league. Again, I say thanks anyway...
Click to expand...
Hindsight is 20/20, but it was widely believed that Harrison was pretty much all done when he left San Diego... all of those teams ended up missing out on one of the best safeties in the league. I certainly wouldn't call it an intelligent decision to have passed on him. :sadbanana: I can see how getting busted for a PED would scare some teams off, but why are you so convinced that his reputation as a dirty player would have any effect whatsoever on a team's interest in him?

 
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
cstu said:
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Not by the league's players.
Click to expand...
Maybe the highest compliment you could pay a safety.
Click to expand...
Yes, especially a cheap shot artist.
Click to expand...
Wait a minute... you're a Colts fan. Rodney had some pretty big moments against your team in a Patriots uniform - especially in the playoffs. And you're telling me you wouldn't have rather seen him playing for Indy? :lmao:
 
Charger. He had his best years in San Diego. Do New Englanders remember Wade Boggs as a Yankee because he won the World Series in NY?

 
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?

I suppose that is somewhat up for debate. Only in his first two years here did he play in all 16 games, and I think he was a classic example of a guy who made up for declining physical ability with increased intelligence & knowledge of the game later on in his career. As an individual, the best years of his career probably came in San Diego, but he was still a great player in New England - maybe not at the absolute apex of his career, but certainly still one of the best safeties in the game.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that question, but I know that most teams in the NFL thought that he had little or nothing left in the tank when he left San Diego (obviously, he proved them wrong, but as I'm sure you know, nobody loved to play the "nobody believes in me/us" card more than Rodney). I remember reading that one of his primary reasons for signing with New England was that the Pats were committed to signing him right from the beginning, and did not ask him to work out first, as all of the other teams that had shown interest in him had.
Click to expand...
The reason I asked the question is that I believe he was still at the top of his game and there were several teams that had zero desire for him to be on their teams. This differs from your assertion that "you'd be a fool to pass on him in his prime". He was a good player who was caught cheating and was known as a dirty player around the league. Again, I say thanks anyway...
Click to expand...
Hindsight is 20/20, but it was widely believed that Harrison was pretty much all done when he left San Diego... all of those teams ended up missing out on one of the best safeties in the league. I certainly wouldn't call it an intelligent decision to have passed on him. :shrug: I can see how getting busted for a PED would scare some teams off, but why are you so convinced that his reputation as a dirty player would have any effect whatsoever on a team's interest in him?
Click to expand...
How are you sure his reputation didn't have an affect on other team's interest in him??
 
There are many players that could be considered dirty. The thing that bothered me about Harrison is that he was an instigator/baby. On the field he could lay some crushing blows, but he was ridiculously dirty after plays, and then would run away. He give a late hit, run behind someone, yet still talk to the opposing player. Just a big baby. If you want to be cheap, back it up, don't run away.

 
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
cstu said:
Adebisi said:
One of the great safeties in recent history retired today. He'll be joining NBC Sports. Rodney Harrison was a huge part of 2 Super Bowl Championship teams and a joy to watch. He retires as the only player in NFL history to record 30+ sacks and 30+ interceptions. He will be missed.
Click to expand...
Not by the league's players.
Click to expand...
Maybe the highest compliment you could pay a safety.
Click to expand...
Yes, especially a cheap shot artist.
Click to expand...
Wait a minute... you're a Colts fan. Rodney had some pretty big moments against your team in a Patriots uniform - especially in the playoffs. And you're telling me you wouldn't have rather seen him playing for Indy? :shrug:
Click to expand...
Not for a minute. Some things are more important than winning with a hopped up PED cheap shot artist.I'll refrain from lumping you in with other Pats fans.

 
Balco said:
There are many players that could be considered dirty. The thing that bothered me about Harrison is that he was an instigator/baby. On the field he could lay some crushing blows, but he was ridiculously dirty after plays, and then would run away. He give a late hit, run behind someone, yet still talk to the opposing player. Just a big baby. If you want to be cheap, back it up, don't run away.
Click to expand...
Wait, you think this way and you aren't a Colts fan? The humanity!
 
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
pizzatyme said:
Adebisi said:
Was he still in his prime when he joined the Pats?

I suppose that is somewhat up for debate. Only in his first two years here did he play in all 16 games, and I think he was a classic example of a guy who made up for declining physical ability with increased intelligence & knowledge of the game later on in his career. As an individual, the best years of his career probably came in San Diego, but he was still a great player in New England - maybe not at the absolute apex of his career, but certainly still one of the best safeties in the game.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that question, but I know that most teams in the NFL thought that he had little or nothing left in the tank when he left San Diego (obviously, he proved them wrong, but as I'm sure you know, nobody loved to play the "nobody believes in me/us" card more than Rodney). I remember reading that one of his primary reasons for signing with New England was that the Pats were committed to signing him right from the beginning, and did not ask him to work out first, as all of the other teams that had shown interest in him had.
Click to expand...
The reason I asked the question is that I believe he was still at the top of his game and there were several teams that had zero desire for him to be on their teams. This differs from your assertion that "you'd be a fool to pass on him in his prime". He was a good player who was caught cheating and was known as a dirty player around the league. Again, I say thanks anyway...
Click to expand...
Hindsight is 20/20, but it was widely believed that Harrison was pretty much all done when he left San Diego... all of those teams ended up missing out on one of the best safeties in the league. I certainly wouldn't call it an intelligent decision to have passed on him. :shrug: I can see how getting busted for a PED would scare some teams off, but why are you so convinced that his reputation as a dirty player would have any effect whatsoever on a team's interest in him?
Click to expand...
How are you sure his reputation didn't have an affect on other team's interest in him??
Click to expand...
His age and recent injury history probably had more to do with him not signing with another team than anything else. :lmao: at the thought that a team would not want an aggressive safety in the mold of Rodney Harrison. I'm not a fan of the Pats but I like the way Harrison approached the game and the way he was able to get into other players' heads a la Hines Ward.
 
No link, but I recall Harrison signing for a lowball offer from the Pats. That was when he was still a top quality player. If others were dying for an "aggressive safety" like him, why didn't he sign a big contract elsewhere?

He was a punk. Merriman is a roid aided player. I guess everyone is fawning over him too? And teams must be lining up for the services of Matt Jones, Chris Henry, etc. Or, maybe they consider the person and say no thanks.

Furthermore, there are many great players in college that are aggressive, good leaders, etc. that are passed over by many teams due to the person they are or perceived to be.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

ChiefD
Had A Thought Last Night.......
Replies
42
Views
2K
Ministry of Pain
Ministry of Pain
S
Anyone else singing the Lineup Blues this season?
2
Replies
63
Views
1K
steelcityman
steelcityman
Ministry of Pain
  • Poll Poll
Would you fire Dan Quinn if you were the owner?
2 3
Replies
119
Views
2K
Runkle
Runkle

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Back
Top