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If Willie Parker finishes as the 2007 NFL Rushing champ... (1 Viewer)

SuperJohn96

RPS World Champion
I think LT2 will surpass him, so I've included him in these stats as well...

Oh...and the stats for FWP and LT2 are projections based on their current stats over 14 GP...

Last 20 NFL Rushing Leaders:

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Year	 Player		  Yards	TDs-------------------------------------2007	 W.Parker*	   1505	  2 <--- 2007 #12007	 L.Tomlinson*	1498	 16 <--- 2007 #22006	 L.Tomlinson	 1815	 282005	 S.Alexander	 1880	 272004	 C.Martin		1697	 122003	 J.Lewis		 2066	 142002	 R.Williams	  1853	 162001	 P.Holmes		1555	  82000	 E.James		 1709	 131999	 E.James		 1553	 131998	 T.Davis		 2008	 211997	 B.Sanders	   2053	 111996	 B.Sanders	   1553	 111995	 E.Smith		 1773	 251994	 B.Sanders	   1883	  71993	 E.Smith		 1486	  91992	 E.Smith		 1713	 181991	 E.Smith		 1563	 121990	 B.Sanders	   1304	 131989	 C Okoye		 1480	 121988	 E.Dickerson	 1659	 14
Sorted by Rushing Yards:
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Year	 Player		  Yards	TDs-------------------------------------2003	 J.Lewis		 2066	 141997	 B.Sanders	   2053	 111998	 T.Davis		 2008	 211994	 B.Sanders	   1883	  72005	 S.Alexander	 1880	 272002	 R.Williams	  1853	 162006	 L.Tomlinson	 1815	 281995	 E.Smith		 1773	 251992	 E.Smith		 1713	 182000	 E.James		 1709	 132004	 C.Martin		1697	 121988	 E.Dickerson	 1659	 141991	 E.Smith		 1563	 122001	 P.Holmes		1555	  81999	 E.James		 1553	 131996	 B.Sanders	   1553	 112007	 W.Parker*	   1505	  2 <--- 2007 #12007	 L.Tomlinson*	1498	 16 <--- 2007 #21993	 E.Smith		 1486	  91989	 C Okoye		 1480	 121990	 B.Sanders	   1304	 13
Sorted by Rushing Touchdowns:
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Year	 Player		  Yards	TDs-------------------------------------2006	 L.Tomlinson	 1815	 282005	 S.Alexander	 1880	 271995	 E.Smith		 1773	 251998	 T.Davis		 2008	 211992	 E.Smith		 1713	 182002	 R.Williams	  1853	 162007	 L.Tomlinson*	1498	 16 <--- 2007 #22003	 J.Lewis		 2066	 141988	 E.Dickerson	 1659	 142000	 E.James		 1709	 131999	 E.James		 1553	 131990	 B.Sanders	   1304	 132004	 C.Martin		1697	 121991	 E.Smith		 1563	 121989	 C Okoye		 1480	 121997	 B.Sanders	   2053	 111996	 B.Sanders	   1553	 111993	 E.Smith		 1486	  92001	 P.Holmes		1555	  81994	 B.Sanders	   1883	  72007	 W.Parker*	   1505	  2 <--- 2007 #1
 
Parker is projected to finish with about 1,720 rushing yards. That would place him 9th on that yardage list. No excuses for the TDs though.

 
Parker is projected to finish with about 1,720 rushing yards. That would place him 9th on that yardage list. No excuses for the TDs though.
X** I already used projected numbers in my rankings above...

Week 15

1. W. Parker-PIT 1317, 14 GP

2. L. Tomlinson-SD 1311, 14 GP

3. A. Peterson-MIN 1278, 12 GP

Projected to Week 17

1. W. Parker-PIT 1505, 16 GP

2. L. Tomlinson-SD 1498, 16 GP

3. A. Peterson-MIN 1491, 14 GP

 
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Parker is projected to finish with about 1,720 rushing yards. That would place him 9th on that yardage list. No excuses for the TDs though.
X** I already used projected numbers in my rankings above...

Week 15

1. W. Parker-PIT 1317, 14 GP

2. L. Tomlinson-SD 1311, 14 GP

3. A. Peterson-MIN 1278, 12 GP

Projected to Week 17

1. W. Parker-PIT 1505, 16 GP

2. L. Tomlinson-SD 1498, 16 GP

3. A. Peterson-MIN 1491, 14 GP
And my money is on Peterson to win the title.
 
Not exactly all of his fault. They've tended to use Davenport or throw to the TE when in close. And Ben has a couple himself.
To be fair though the in close touches that I remember FWP getting did not end up in the end zone. So, he didn't take advantage of his limited opps either. To be fair.
 
Not exactly all of his fault. They've tended to use Davenport or throw to the TE when in close. And Ben has a couple himself.
To be fair though the in close touches that I remember FWP getting did not end up in the end zone. So, he didn't take advantage of his limited opps either. To be fair.
I'll give you that. It doesn't seem like he had that many though.
He's had 19 rushing attempts from inside the 10 (1 TD). Najeh has had 6 attempts for 2 TD's.Inside the 5, Willie has 8 attempts to Najehs 5.
 
LT will rest more as we get closer to playoffs

FWP wont as they have to win to win division, FWP will win rushing title , ADP will place second

 
LT will rest more as we get closer to playoffs
Why would he? San Diego is currently fighting to get the number 3 seed over the AFC North winner. Getting the number 3 seed not only means you avoid the Jaguars in the first round (most likely), it means you wouldn't have to play the Patriots in the 2nd round.
 
I thought this was the rushing championship we were talking about. TDs have zero to do with winning the rushing title the last time I checked.

 
Not exactly all of his fault. They've tended to use Davenport or throw to the TE when in close. And Ben has a couple himself.
To be fair though the in close touches that I remember FWP getting did not end up in the end zone. So, he didn't take advantage of his limited opps either. To be fair.
I'll give you that. It doesn't seem like he had that many though.
He's had 19 rushing attempts from inside the 10 (1 TD). Najeh has had 6 attempts for 2 TD's.Inside the 5, Willie has 8 attempts to Najehs 5.
Plus two by Roethlisberger. And now look at how many TDs went to the TE inside the 10.
 
I thought this was the rushing championship we were talking about. TDs have zero to do with winning the rushing title the last time I checked.
So, the fact that in the last 20 years the lowest TD total of the rushing title champion was 7 by Barry Sanders in 1994 and FWP may accomplish it with only two on the year?You don't find that interesting at all?

 
I thought this was the rushing championship we were talking about. TDs have zero to do with winning the rushing title the last time I checked.
Semantics pal...You know what my thread title is getting at. How do you lead the NFL in rushing and get 70+% LESS rushing TDs than the previous worst TD total by an NFL Rushing Leader in the last 20 years?

Plus... last I checked, rushing yards = 0 points on the scoreboard.

 
Here's my thing with FWP. I know he has the yardage...I know he has 7 100 yard games and I know that he's in/right near the top ten RB's in just about every fantasy league points system. That being said, I feel that his season has been a failure...not for his consistency....but for the fact that as a 1st round pick I feel that there should have been a couple games that he directly won for me with an incredible performance. His scores in my .5ppr/1pt per 10 yard/ league pe week have ben 10-19-13-7-10-B-13-19-5-11-5-8-9-16-11, there never once was that 25-30 point game that really helped me win. I might be nitpicking but I really expected more from him.

 
I thought this was the rushing championship we were talking about. TDs have zero to do with winning the rushing title the last time I checked.
So, the fact that in the last 20 years the lowest TD total of the rushing title champion was 7 by Barry Sanders in 1994 and FWP may accomplish it with only two on the year?You don't find that interesting at all?
FWP lives between the 1 yard lines. :thumbup:
 
SJ96> you could have made the title of this thread "rushing champ of 2007 will be worst since 1993", it would be just as accurate, more interesting, and wouldn't invite the Pittsburgh homers.

just a thought.

 
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I fail to see the correlation of winning a rushing title (yards) with having a lot of scoring.

Dont you see the amount of passing TDs from that team?

Dont you see they use another RB at times in short yardage areas.

You must be stuck in a fantasy football landscape. In which case the thread title is misleading.

But the rushing title has everything to do with rushing yards and nothing else.

Yards per carry casts a much bigger shadow then does TDs.

Being able to stay healthy and play a full slate of games is just as big as TDs.

 
Ghost Rider said:
Lash said:
LT will rest more as we get closer to playoffs
Why would he? San Diego is currently fighting to get the number 3 seed over the AFC North winner. Getting the number 3 seed not only means you avoid the Jaguars in the first round (most likely), it means you wouldn't have to play the Patriots in the 2nd round.
dude, i think you're right, i had thought CLE and PIT had the tiebreaker with them but if it is conference record then they have a chance to be 9-3 vs PIT and CLE 8-4
 
Given how horrible Pittsburgh's o-line has been this year, I think FWP has had a great year. It's not his fault he wasn't used as much near the goal line this year. I think Arians' play calling has been a little suspect this year. But it's his first year as a coordinator, so I'll cut him some slack.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Yards per carry casts a much bigger shadow then does TDs.
When discussing a rushing champion, I would have to agree. Willie's running at about 4.1 per carry. I wonder how that stacks up against those listed earlier.ETA: I honestly didn't know, so I looked it up. No rushing leader has had less than a 4.2 YPC since 1989 (Okoye at 4.0).
 
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BigSteelThrill said:
Yards per carry casts a much bigger shadow then does TDs.
When discussing a rushing champion, I would have to agree. Willie's running at about 4.1 per carry. I wonder how that stacks up against those listed earlier.ETA: I honestly didn't know, so I looked it up. No rushing leader has had less than a 4.2 YPC since 1989 (Okoye at 4.0).
I looked at the other current top 12 RBs. Seems to be on par with the rest of 'em. LT and AP have really big YPCs, but a lot less carries.
 
Count me as another owner who did not expect the huge TD drop but I really don't blame FWP. The Stillers always seem to spread the field at the 1. They need to try putting in a FB at the goal line to block for FWP.

 
Here's my thing with FWP. I know he has the yardage...I know he has 7 100 yard games and I know that he's in/right near the top ten RB's in just about every fantasy league points system. That being said, I feel that his season has been a failure...
Unless you drafted Parker as RB1-RB5 I don't see how his season could be constituted a "failure." He's top 10 in most formats. Chances are he was drafted as about RB7-9. He only "failed" if you thought he would considerably outperform his draft position. And if anyone truly did believe that, then they would have probably drafted him even earlier. If you did, then I suppose you have a beef. If you didn't....I don't see what all the hand wringing is about.On a related note: Here's what I don't get. Where are all the threads devoted to renting clothing/lamentations about Frank Gore? You want to talk about a fantasy failure, there's your poster boy this year. That cat was being taken as RB3 in a LOT of leagues. RB4 at worst. He had nowhere to go but down....and down he went. He only has 5 TDs on the year and hasn't cracked 1,000 yards on the ground yet. He and Parker are nearly identical, scoringwise, in my league, but Parker was taken 6 or 7 spots later. If I'm the Gore owner, I'm far, far more ticked off than the Parker owner. Parker's year, given his ADP: Meh. Disappointing.Gore's year, given his ADP: Bust-tastic.
 
Is it just me, or do rushing numbers look like they are down a lot while passing and receiving numbers seem up from last year?

How many qbs on avg. finish with over 4000 yards passing each year? This year I think it will be around 8 players.

How many qbs on avg. finish with over 30 passing tds each year? This year I think it will be around 5 players.

How many wrs on avg. finish with over 1000 yards yards receiving each year? I think it will be around 25 players.

 
The only reason we have this conversation now is that there are some Parker owners left on this site- while the LJ, Alexander, Gore, RudiJ owners are studying up on fantasy hockey.

 
I am in my SB with Fast Willie being my 1st round pick. He has not blown up any week, but he has been a consistent 10-12 points a game in Non-PPR. I actually hope that sort of thing out of all of my RB's, so as far as I am concerned he is a solid piece to a team. First round worthy? Probably not. But if you drafted well elsewhere, he was adequate.

 
SuperJohn96 said:
Tom Servo said:
I thought this was the rushing championship we were talking about. TDs have zero to do with winning the rushing title the last time I checked.
Semantics pal...You know what my thread title is getting at. How do you lead the NFL in rushing and get 70+% LESS rushing TDs than the previous worst TD total by an NFL Rushing Leader in the last 20 years?

Plus... last I checked, rushing yards = 0 points on the scoreboard.
I see your point, but I don't think the fact that roethlisberger threw several short TDs diminishes the value of Parker running all those yards to get them close to the touchdown. I think your view of "he'll be the worse rushing title RB" is skewed by fantasty football perspective.

 
moleculo said:
SJ96> you could have made the title of this thread "rushing champ of 2007 will be worst since 1993", it would be just as accurate, more interesting, and wouldn't invite the Pittsburgh homers.just a thought.
Nah...<-- Browns fan :banned: :stalker: :boxing:
 
I looked at the other current top 12 RBs. Seems to be on par with the rest of 'em.

LT and AP have really big YPCs, but a lot less carries.
I might be missing the point, but I don't think this is the OP's argument.
FTR: This is a year of PASSING like none other in the history of the NFL.Thus to compare him towards the other current rushers seemed appropriate.
LT2 and ADP each have more than a dozen TDs...they're doing all right...
 
I looked at the other current top 12 RBs. Seems to be on par with the rest of 'em.

LT and AP have really big YPCs, but a lot less carries.
I might be missing the point, but I don't think this is the OP's argument.
FTR: This is a year of PASSING like none other in the history of the NFL.Thus to compare him towards the other current rushers seemed appropriate.
LT2 and ADP each have more than a dozen TDs...they're doing all right...
This is the rushing title or the TD title or the rushing TD title?Do you have any idea how much goes into the final result? The amount of variables is astounding.

Like Tavaris Jackson for starters. :shrug:

 
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I looked at the other current top 12 RBs. Seems to be on par with the rest of 'em.

LT and AP have really big YPCs, but a lot less carries.
I might be missing the point, but I don't think this is the OP's argument.
FTR: This is a year of PASSING like none other in the history of the NFL.Thus to compare him towards the other current rushers seemed appropriate.
LT2 and ADP each have more than a dozen TDs...they're doing all right...
This is the rushing title or the TD title or the rushing TD title?Do you have any idea how much goes into the final result? The amount of variables is astounding.

Like Tavaris Jackson for starters. :goodposting:
:sigh: Look, you are clearly too much of a homer to actually get the point of this thread. Or you are too much of a homer and want to derail discussion.You wanna get stuck on semantics, then fine. Most people in this thread get it. You clearly don't.

Willie Parker might not end up with the lowest total rushing yards of a "Rushing Champ" for the last 20 years.

But with only 2 rushing TDs, he would be the WORST rushing champ IMHO...

I mean how does one amass that many yards and can only punch it in twice? You'd think by ACCIDENT he'd have a couple more big plays for TDs.

I still think it's admirable that he could win the rushing yard title, but I think 2 TDs from the rushing "champ" is a friggin joke.

Now imagine if Tom Brady finished with 4900 passing yards and only 7* Passing TDs instead of 4900 + 52 and try to tell me there are variables or other some such nonesense.

* I did some math on this...

 
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Willie Parker might not end up with the lowest total rushing yards of a "Rushing Champ" for the last 20 years.But with only 2 rushing TDs, he would be the WORST rushing champ IMHO...
TDs have NOTHING to do with the rushing title. Nothing. :thumbup:
Who on the original list do you put behind Willie, I guess that is the question?Curtis Martin when he won? Maybe. He seems like the most reasonable argument. The others would seem to be in a totally different category than Willie at this point. JMO though.
 
Willie Parker might not end up with the lowest total rushing yards of a "Rushing Champ" for the last 20 years.

But with only 2 rushing TDs, he would be the WORST rushing champ IMHO...
TDs have NOTHING to do with the rushing title. Nothing. :blackdot:
Who on the original list do you put behind Willie, I guess that is the question?Curtis Martin when he won? Maybe. He seems like the most reasonable argument. The others would seem to be in a totally different category than Willie at this point. JMO though.
His final rushing yards will put him into whatever position he deserves. Heck it may still be LT as the leader.
 
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