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dmac37

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Who are the players you think will produce if given more of a chance?

A few examples have jumped out at me:

Bradshaw- all he does is produce. Last year was tough for him to get more playing time due to the injuries but going back to the super bowl run he has looked great and the best RB for the G-men.

Forsett- very frustrating last year watching him produce whenever given the chance only to keep giving way to JJ

Jacoby Jones- has shown flashes of brilliance but must be doing something wrong to hold himself back as the coaches don't seem to trust him yet. The Walter signing has everyone writing Jacoby off but I think he has the talent to surface sometime this year.

Ringer- not big, not fast but seems to have enough RB skills and instincts to get the job done

 
It's an interesting question and I don't think there is a simple answer. It's easy to say player so and so, like D Ward. But even in the players you listed there are those questions as to why didn't they give them the ball more? Injuries, coaches decisions, trust, competition, size, doubt... are all some reasons but there are others. One is a teams "philosophy" or team goal. How much balance do we want to achieve? At what point does a defense focus on a particular weapon and therefore it loses its effectiveness, it's element of surprise? AN NFL game is only so long, some of what is done in a sense sacrificed early in a game can be turned into a strength by the end, in order to WIN the game in the fourth quarter. Are we weaker or stronger than this team? Is our defense prepared to handle their offense? It may sound like I've lost my mind but that's why the answer to why they DON"T feed the ball to certain players more is partially obscured at times. Not only is there a series/quarter/half/fourth quarter "philosophy" by the better coaches but certainly a 1/4, 1/2 and full season "philosophy" by the better coaches. Having said that I also believe that there is a general lack of creativity in playcalling in the NFL, in other words a lack of creativity in using some of these dynamic weapons. Players like Percy Harvin, DeSean Jackson, Chris Johnson make it seem like a sea change is taking place. And a team like New Orleans seems to be pretty loaded in a lot of areas... it certainly worked for them.

 
dmac37 said:
Who are the players you think will produce if given more of a chance?

A few examples have jumped out at me:

Bradshaw- all he does is produce. Last year was tough for him to get more playing time due to the injuries but going back to the super bowl run he has looked great and the best RB for the G-men.

Forsett- very frustrating last year watching him produce whenever given the chance only to keep giving way to JJ

Jacoby Jones- has shown flashes of brilliance but must be doing something wrong to hold himself back as the coaches don't seem to trust him yet. The Walter signing has everyone writing Jacoby off but I think he has the talent to surface sometime this year.

Ringer- not big, not fast but seems to have enough RB skills and instincts to get the job done
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:lmao: Agree with the colored parts 100% those are the guys i thought of before i even opened thread

 
Forsett!!!!! - why even bring in 2 competitors? im starting to think theres something about him we dont know because anyone else would have that starting job wrapped up by now with those numbers.

Jermichael Finley - i guess this is more me saying "keep feeding him the ball" than "feed him the ball more". guy is an animal and will be a household name if given the opportunity

and yes, i do own both of these players as noted in my sig :lmao:

 
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Jerious Norwood. I think if you have a player like that, you need to make sure he gets 10 touches a game, 10 looks, whatever. Just for the homerun possibilities.

 
Avery said:
zed2283 said:
Jerome Harrison
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The guy averaged 35+ carries the last three games of the season and you think he should get the ball more? :pickle:
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Prior to that he has been by far the most frustrating player to hold on to fantasy wise. Every time he has touched the ball he has produced yet two coaching staffs have refused to see if he has what it takes until JamLew and all other options were exhausted. I understand why (he can't block) but damn he saved Mangina's job at the end of last year and he gets rewarded by the Browns bringing in Hardesty and Holmgren questioning his ability now. It's as if when you get into an upper level management position in Cleveland you just go stupid.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
Josh Cribbs....I don't know how but he produces.Eddie Royal.....he is a playmaker and should have a larger pie in that offense.
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:goodposting: these were the two I thought of first. I'd have Vince Young run more consistently. Counting the times he takes off because of coverage, 7-10 rushes per game would be ideal IMO. Darren Sproles needs more than 6 carries and 3 receptions per game. I'd let Sanchez throw more but I suspect he will this year.
 
The same guy I've been writing in this sort of thread for the last 2 years, Justin Forsett. Yea, he's not big nor fast, but when you give him the ball he gets yards. He's tougher than coaches give him credit for and his field vision/instincts are tremendous. Carroll will probably realize he should have given Forsett more touches about the same time his recent coaches have, too late.

 
Some great ones so far - I agree with most of those already mentioned, though I'm going to say Leon Washington if he is healthy, which could tick off some Forsett supporters. I like Forsett and he was a nice surprise last season, but *if* Washington comes back to form he's the most dynamic offensive player on that team and should be touching the ball about 15 times a game. He's more than a COP/3rd down player - Jets fans were clamoring for more of him every season. His health is a huge question mark, but his talent isn't IMO.

Like Jacoby Jones, but the coaches don't seem to like him that much. Still, at the end of the year he seemed to be more of a factor than Kevin Walter and he has a lot of talent. He could (should?) push for the starting spot opposite AJ.

Michael Bush could easily beat out McFadden - I'd like to see what Louis Murphy could do if DHB needs another year of seasoning before he can EARN a starting spot.

 
People may or may not agree with this, but I think it is time for the Pats to give the ball a few games in a row (consistently) to see what they have in Maroney. My guess is that his contract is coming up this year or next, so just from a management perspective, I think they should see what they have. Maybe they already know and that is why he is not getting consistent touches, but some team will make him an offer and they will lose him outright (unless that is the plan...).

 
Sweet Love said:
People may or may not agree with this, but I think it is time for the Pats to give the ball a few games in a row (consistently) to see what they have in Maroney. My guess is that his contract is coming up this year or next, so just from a management perspective, I think they should see what they have. Maybe they already know and that is why he is not getting consistent touches, but some team will make him an offer and they will lose him outright (unless that is the plan...).
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That likely won't happen until Maroney mans up and puts forth a consistent effort for a few games in a row, although he did average 17 carries during a 9 game stretch last season (in which he put up an underwhelming 3.8 yards per carry).This isn't directed at you specifically, Sweet Love, but I find it somewhat bizarre that there are still people in the Shark Pool who don't think Maroney has been given a chance to be The Man in New England.
 
Sweet Love said:
People may or may not agree with this, but I think it is time for the Pats to give the ball a few games in a row (consistently) to see what they have in Maroney. My guess is that his contract is coming up this year or next, so just from a management perspective, I think they should see what they have. Maybe they already know and that is why he is not getting consistent touches, but some team will make him an offer and they will lose him outright (unless that is the plan...).
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The biggest problem is that he's gotten chances and either underwhelmed (dancing too much in the hole when guys like Kevin Faulk and Sammy Morris literally show how to hit the hole hard and fast in ensuing plays), makes costly turnovers like fumbling in the red zone, or simply gets injured. Then he gets his touches scaled back as a result and posters wonder why he hasn't been given a shot in New England.2006 Game 1-05: 78 carries for 332 yards (4.26 YPC but had 12-18 and 18-38 games in there)2006 Game 8-12: 57 carries for 215 yards (3.77 YPC)2007 Game 1-06: 89 carries for 417 yards (4.69 YPC) but missed Week 4, 5, and 62009 Game 6-14: 157 carries for 636 yards (4.05 YPC but only had 1 game over 100 yards and included 13-43, 13-31, and 13-41 performances)The guy is the ultimate dance in the hole "boom or bust" (to use FF terminology) running back. For everything good he shows he can do, he does two or three things to take steps back and show why he isn't consistently relied on as a game in and game out 20 carry back.
 
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