If you were Nick Saban... (1 Viewer)

[fantasycurse42]

I hate Bama, but I don't think there is a rational college football fan that wouldn't want this guy as their head coach.

Should he stick around at Bama, or test the pros again? What type of pro coach would he be this go round?

 

[Mors Venit]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

 

[ATC1]

I would be a journeyman. Completely turn programs around again and see if I can win as many national titles at different schools as possible. Next stop would be Texas.

 

[Cjw_55106]

The guy has everything he could want in life. Why would he leave? He is 64 years old. He doesnt need to go to the NFL and prove anything.

 

[fantasycurse42]

The guy has everything he could want in life. Why would he leave? He is 64 years old. He doesnt need to go to the NFL and prove anything.

I agree with this, but I'm sure he is an egomaniac. He has to look at a guy like Pete Carroll and say "I can do that too".

 

[Bull Dozier]

This is a "if this were me" thread, not a "what will Saban do" thread, right?

Tough call if it were me. I would tend to say I would just stay at Bama and keep winning titles as long as I wanted. If he sticks around for five more years and wins two more titles, he passes Bryant for the lead. However, I don't think he would ever overtake Bryant in Alabama lore. That might make me want to take up the challenge and see if I can do it in Texas or elsewhere.

 

[SoBeDad]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

He wanted Drew Brees and the doctors told him no. So he got Dante Culpepper instead. He did pretty well given the cards he was dealt.

 

[Politician Spock]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Greatest Coach ever is an apples and oranges comparison. Even at his own school, Bear Bryant is better; but the era was so different, with the # of scholarships, the way championships were determined, etc.

 

[Cjw_55106]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

 

[Politician Spock]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

 

[Cjw_55106]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

Millions in the bank and one of the best in the world at what you do.

Fame is a personal choice, so I wont count that.

 

[Politician Spock]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

Millions in the bank and one of the best in the world at what you do.

Fame is a personal choice, so I wont count that.

To me success is maximizing return while minimizing effort.

I make a lot of money... enough that my wife and three kids don't work at all... yet I do it with such minimal effort I have a ####load of time to waste here.

Saban looks to me like he works hard all the time, sleeps little, and is one moment away from a life ending heart attack. I would never chose to live like that, even with his salary. I don't consider that success.

 

[Jeremy]

There's no more arrogant group of people in the world than the big name college coach. Guys like Saban, Harbaugh and Chip Kelly are perfectly suited for an environment where they have almost complete power, and where nobody stays more than 4 years. Additionally there is nothing in place to promote parity in college sports, so you never have to worry about lacking for talent.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I'd stay. Dominating Auburn can never get old.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I voted for him to leave but only because I want him to leave.

He did make the major mistake of going to the dysfunctional Dolphins, he could do better with the right organization.

And if he fails he can just come back to LSU.

 

[SoBeDad]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

He wanted Drew Brees and the doctors told him no. So he got Dante Culpepper instead. He did pretty well given the cards he was dealt.

That's the point. In college, he missed on getting great QBs, but he recruited so many great players at so many other positions that it didn't matter. With the Dolphins, Saban had final say on roster moves. But the team got worse under his direction. And even worse the year after he left. The only good player he drafted was Ronnie Brown as the overall #2 pick in the draft. Jason Allen, Joe Toldeo, Derek Hagan, Matt Roth - some of the unforgettable names drafted by Saban. He left the cupboard bare. YEARS EARLIER, when Jimmy Johnson quit, he left many future defensive stars on the team - Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Pat Surtain, Gardner. The defense was good for many years after Johnson left.

Saban is not an innovator like Walsh, Gillman, Brown or Landry. He may not even be the best coach named Saban.

But, if he had a good QB in Miami and a better record, he would've stayed longer. But unlikely he would ever be considered a great coach in the NFL.

 

[SIDA!]

I never rule out or underestimate a man's ego. I always thought Pete Carroll would go back to the NFL because he needed to exorcise those demons. Will Saban go to the NFL. I have no idea. But if he goes it really would be for one reason and one reason only. To prove to himself he can do it.

 

[AAABatteries]

I think I'd get plenty of ego strokes from staying at Bama and trying to become the undisputed GOAT. Plus you could nail Bama co-eds two at a time.

 

[FUBAR]

it's funny, MSU fans still resent him leaving 17 years ago.

I would stay at the best college football program. ROLL TIDE!

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

The Indy job would have been the one to get him to jump if it had opened up. However, at this point I think he should just stay put at Alabama. Great situation and from what I've seen from some sorority videos that campus has some really nice girls down there. I would assume he catches weekly hummers from random college hotties which would certainly make me stay.

 

[shader]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

Millions in the bank and one of the best in the world at what you do.Fame is a personal choice, so I wont count that.

To me success is maximizing return while minimizing effort.

I make a lot of money... enough that my wife and three kids don't work at all... yet I do it with such minimal effort I have a ####load of time to waste here.

Saban looks to me like he works hard all the time, sleeps little, and is one moment away from a life ending heart attack. I would never chose to live like that, even with his salary. I don't consider that success.

I don't think giving little effort is considered "successful" in any walk of life. It's laziness, which is the exact opposite of success.

 

[Politician Spock]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

Millions in the bank and one of the best in the world at what you do.Fame is a personal choice, so I wont count that.

To me success is maximizing return while minimizing effort.

I make a lot of money... enough that my wife and three kids don't work at all... yet I do it with such minimal effort I have a ####load of time to waste here.

Saban looks to me like he works hard all the time, sleeps little, and is one moment away from a life ending heart attack. I would never chose to live like that, even with his salary. I don't consider that success.

I don't think giving little effort is considered "successful" in any walk of life. It's laziness, which is the exact opposite of success.

Excuse me? Excuse me, senor? May I speak to you please? I asked for a mai tai, and they brought me a pina colada, and I said no salt, NO salt for the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, floating in the glass... And yes, I won't be leaving a tip, 'cause I could... I could shut this whole resort down. Sir? I'll take my traveler's checks to a competing resort. I could write a letter to your board of tourism and I could have this place condemned. I could put... I could put... strychnine in the guacamole. There was salt on the glass, BIG grains of salt.

 

[Insein]

Imagine if he got Brees like he wanted to in Miami?

 

[shader]

Imagine if he got Brees like he wanted to in Miami?

I'm glad that didn't happen. Bama would still be the laughing stock of college football.

 

[Christo]

Imagine if he got Brees like he wanted to in Miami?

I'm glad that didn't happen. Bama would still be the laughing stock of college football.

I wouldn't go that far. As bad as they were they still played in the SEC! SEC! SEC!

NWIH I'd leave Bama if I were in his position.

 

[GOB]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

He wanted Drew Brees and the doctors told him no. So he got Dante Culpepper instead. He did pretty well given the cards he was dealt.

That's the point. In college, he missed on getting great QBs, but he recruited so many great players at so many other positions that it didn't matter. With the Dolphins, Saban had final say on roster moves. But the team got worse under his direction. And even worse the year after he left. The only good player he drafted was Ronnie Brown as the overall #2 pick in the draft. Jason Allen, Joe Toldeo, Derek Hagan, Matt Roth - some of the unforgettable names drafted by Saban. He left the cupboard bare. YEARS EARLIER, when Jimmy Johnson quit, he left many future defensive stars on the team - Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Pat Surtain, Gardner. The defense was good for many years after Johnson left.Saban is not an innovator like Walsh, Gillman, Brown or Landry. He may not even be the best coach named Saban.

But, if he had a good QB in Miami and a better record, he would've stayed longer. But unlikely he would ever be considered a great coach in the NFL.

Let it go, man. It's over.Saban is a great coach.

 

[FUBAR]

Imagine if he got Brees like he wanted to in Miami?

I'm glad that didn't happen. Bama would still be the laughing stock of college football.

I wouldn't go that far. As bad as they were they still played in the SEC! SEC! SEC!

NWIH I'd leave Bama if I were in his position.

well, they might have ended up with Rich Rodriguez :X

 

[timschochet]

...I'd be in bed right now with a couple of former Miss Alabamas, screaming "Roll Tide" as they performed wicked acts?

 

[FUBAR]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

He wanted Drew Brees and the doctors told him no. So he got Dante Culpepper instead. He did pretty well given the cards he was dealt.

That's the point. In college, he missed on getting great QBs, but he recruited so many great players at so many other positions that it didn't matter. With the Dolphins, Saban had final say on roster moves. But the team got worse under his direction. And even worse the year after he left. The only good player he drafted was Ronnie Brown as the overall #2 pick in the draft. Jason Allen, Joe Toldeo, Derek Hagan, Matt Roth - some of the unforgettable names drafted by Saban. He left the cupboard bare. YEARS EARLIER, when Jimmy Johnson quit, he left many future defensive stars on the team - Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Pat Surtain, Gardner. The defense was good for many years after Johnson left.Saban is not an innovator like Walsh, Gillman, Brown or Landry. He may not even be the best coach named Saban.

But, if he had a good QB in Miami and a better record, he would've stayed longer. But unlikely he would ever be considered a great coach in the NFL.

Let it go, man. It's over.Saban is a great coach.

Yes he is, a great college coach. Right up there with the Bear and Joe Pa* but I think he's right that he wouldn't have been a great NFL coach. who knows really, but as things actually are, he's on the mount rushmore of college coaches.

 

[Mors Venit]

I'd sit on my ### and do nothing for the next five years.

With what I've accomplished there, I could have at least five ####ty seasons before getting fired. At that point I'm 69 years old, and have tens of millions in the bank. I call it my retiring before I officially retire plan.

Probably why you arent as successful as Saban.

Depends on how you define "success".

Millions in the bank and one of the best in the world at what you do.Fame is a personal choice, so I wont count that.

To me success is maximizing return while minimizing effort.

I make a lot of money... enough that my wife and three kids don't work at all... yet I do it with such minimal effort I have a ####load of time to waste here.

Saban looks to me like he works hard all the time, sleeps little, and is one moment away from a life ending heart attack. I would never chose to live like that, even with his salary. I don't consider that success.

What do you do?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Being a legend at Alabama is better than being a legend almost anywhere else.

 

[facook]

I wonder if the "no win" situation comes into play at some point. Championships are expected. Not that they don't feel good, but it's almost a relief when he does win it. And in the years when it's NOT won it's a total failure. Even a year like last year where they were really good, made the Playoff, but failed to win the title.

I'm not saying Bama is there yet, but maybe they are starting next year? Or the year after? It just seems like it becomes a no win situation. I'd rather prove I could do it in the NFL, where I didn't succeed before. That's how competitive I am. Now the NFL is down to Tennessee, and I doubt that would entice Saban, but I could see him leaving after next year for an NFL team on the cusp.

 

[Mors Venit]

Being a legend at Alabama is better than being a legend almost anywhere else.

Arent we all legends in our minds?

 

[Insein]

I wonder if the "no win" situation comes into play at some point. Championships are expected. Not that they don't feel good, but it's almost a relief when he does win it. And in the years when it's NOT won it's a total failure. Even a year like last year where they were really good, made the Playoff, but failed to win the title.

I'm not saying Bama is there yet, but maybe they are starting next year? Or the year after? It just seems like it becomes a no win situation. I'd rather prove I could do it in the NFL, where I didn't succeed before. That's how competitive I am. Now the NFL is down to Tennessee, and I doubt that would entice Saban, but I could see him leaving after next year for an NFL team on the cusp.

Could do worse than having a franchise QB in place and the #1 pick. Problem is they want to sell. So no way they're dolling out the big bucks.

 

[Statorama]

He could have coached at LSU forever and retired a god. Now he gets to retire as the best thing out of Alabama since sleeping with your sister...or whatever else Alabama is famous for.

 

[pollardsvision]

75% aren't ready to call him the greatest college coach ever. I'm just curious (genuinely, as I think he is but I'm no CF historian and could be convinced otherwise)....who was better?

 

[Statorama]

75% aren't ready to call him the greatest college coach ever. I'm just curious (genuinely, as I think he is but I'm no CF historian and could be convinced otherwise)....who was better?

I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire, but he's the greatest coach of ANY sport I've ever seen.

 

[gump]

75% aren't ready to call him the greatest college coach ever. I'm just curious (genuinely, as I think he is but I'm no CF historian and could be convinced otherwise)....who was better?

Tim thinks it's Meyer.

 

[Jack White]

Bill Simmons said on a recent podcast that Saban is really good at checkers (Saturdays) and is afraid to play chess (Sundays).

I agree.

 

[sharptongued1]

Umm....a good one?

Didnt he start to turn the dolphins around before splitting?

NO. He was 9-7 in year 1 and 6-10 in year 2. He was hated by almost all the little people and many of the big people in Miami due to his arrogance and his single-minded interest in football. He had custom-made pants without loops to save the time it would take to put on a belt. He was like Jimmy Johnson in that losing made him miserable. His wife didn't fit in with the sophistication of Miami & Ft. Lauderdale (compared to small college towns). His formula for success in college includes great recruitment, great coaches and discipline. It's hard to have all 3 in the NFL. I don't think he's an innovator, like the other great NFL coaches.

He wanted Drew Brees and the doctors told him no. So he got Dante Culpepper instead. He did pretty well given the cards he was dealt.

That's the point. In college, he missed on getting great QBs, but he recruited so many great players at so many other positions that it didn't matter. With the Dolphins, Saban had final say on roster moves. But the team got worse under his direction. And even worse the year after he left. The only good player he drafted was Ronnie Brown as the overall #2 pick in the draft. Jason Allen, Joe Toldeo, Derek Hagan, Matt Roth - some of the unforgettable names drafted by Saban. He left the cupboard bare. YEARS EARLIER, when Jimmy Johnson quit, he left many future defensive stars on the team - Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Pat Surtain, Gardner. The defense was good for many years after Johnson left.Saban is not an innovator like Walsh, Gillman, Brown or Landry. He may not even be the best coach named Saban.

But, if he had a good QB in Miami and a better record, he would've stayed longer. But unlikely he would ever be considered a great coach in the NFL.

Let it go, man. It's over.Saban is a great college coach.

FTFY.

He can't, "take your'n and beat his'n."

 

[Dentist]

I'd retire, he's got to be super rich and why not leave on a high note.

I'd never go back to the NFL that would be stupid

 

[Bull Dozier]

People who dedicate their whole life, all day every day all year long to something don't just retire because the have enough money to do so.

 

[dschuler]

Just leave Alabama, don't care what you do afterwards

 

[Dentist]

People who dedicate their whole life, all day every day all year long to something don't just retire because the have enough money to do so.

Well they should.

There's no higher aspiration in my opinion that being able to live a life of total leisure.. being able to afford to do so, and not doing so is a slap in the face to society

 

[FUBAR]

People who dedicate their whole life, all day every day all year long to something don't just retire because the have enough money to do so.

Well they should.

There's no higher aspiration in my opinion that being able to live a life of total leisure.. being able to afford to do so, and not doing so is a slap in the face to society

You're a weird dude.

 

[Bull Dozier]

People who dedicate their whole life, all day every day all year long to something don't just retire because the have enough money to do so.

Well they should.

There's no higher aspiration in my opinion that being able to live a life of total leisure.. being able to afford to do so, and not doing so is a slap in the face to society

He's the kind of coach that will die within months of retiring. They don't know how to live in leisure. There is no purpose in that (doing nothing) to them.

 

[Christo]

I read where he tried to take a nap on the plane home from the NCG but couldn't get comfortable so he started watching tape of the NCG to grade players. That is one ultra-obsessed kind of dude. Retirement isn't even in his vocabulary.

 

[FUBAR]

I read where he tried to take a nap on the plane home from the NCG but couldn't get comfortable so he started watching tape of the NCG to grade players. That is one ultra-obsessed kind of dude. Retirement isn't even in his vocabulary.

Don't we all know someone like this?

My senior boss could retire tomorrow with virtually no loss of pay with his pension. But he won't do it, we all believe he'd die within a few months of retirement.

Or maybe his wife would kill him.