If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you have to make in PIT, CLE or NE to leave SF? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Lots of talk about Aiyuk leaving SF.

Obviously, he's currently in a great situation as a Super Bowl contender an an offensive minded head coach.

But he clearly is considering going to another team where he could make more money.

If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you have to make in PIT, CLE or NE to leave SF?

 

[Terpman22]

I think way too many of us are not aware of how big a % of players play professional sports b/c they are very very very good at it and will become very very very rich by doing it.

The whole "For the love of the game" IMO is probably a minority of professional athletes.

 

[rockaction]

If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you have to make in PIT, CLE or NE to leave SF?

It really depends on so many things. I know that’s probably not the answer you’re looking for, but I’d need to be inside Brandon Aiyuk’s head, and I’m not.

I’d say that for me I’d rather stay in SF for about the same or Pittsburgh at that going rate. I wouldn’t want CLE or NE unless I was getting two million more per year. But who knows how much that one million means to BA?

I’d say SF or Pitt at the going rate, and NE or CLE would take two million more. NE especially. Make that three-four million a year more. Terrible weather, no Belichick. The whole deal there is terrible right now.

 

[jm192]

I see both sides of it.

People care about money. It's ok and acceptable to care about money. There is nothing bad or immoral or wrong to care about money. I will never fault anyone for trying to get more of it. Who doesn't want a raise at their job?

For me personally, there's a concept of "enough" money. We live pretty contently with our current income. I wouldn't move across the country to double my current salary. I love my home and my community. There's not a dollar sign on moving.

I'm not sure what my number would be if I'm an NFL player. If they're offering him 26 million, I could be pretty darn content there. And I think SF is a great organization that will continue to compete for a long time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m disappointed there isn’t a “he should stay in SF for $26M a year as it’s his best chance to win a SB” option.

To me that is the correct answer.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I see both sides of it.

People care about money. It's ok and acceptable to care about money. There is nothing bad or immoral or wrong to care about money. I will never fault anyone for trying to get more of it. Who doesn't want a raise at their job?

For me personally, there's a concept of "enough" money. We live pretty contently with our current income. I wouldn't move across the country to double my current salary. I love my home and my community. There's not a dollar sign on moving.

I'm not sure what my number would be if I'm an NFL player. If they're offering him 26 million, I could be pretty darn content there. And I think SF is a great organization that will continue to compete for a long time.

This is where I’m at as well.

But as a Niners fan it probably comes off as short-sighted since I’d want to keep Aiyuk in house.

I just don’t think they’re being unfair with the offer.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think way too many of us are not aware of how big a % of players play professional sports b/c they are very very very good at it and will become very very very rich by doing it.

The whole "For the love of the game" IMO is probably a minority of professional athletes.

What was your vote?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Hard to compare but I always wanted to work where I thought I was appreciated most. But sweeten the pot enough and I would probably grab the offer of whoever is offering the most money.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Not have to pay Marin taxes? Put me on the next flight out.

 

[Terpman22]

I think way too many of us are not aware of how big a % of players play professional sports b/c they are very very very good at it and will become very very very rich by doing it.

The whole "For the love of the game" IMO is probably a minority of professional athletes.

What was your vote?

Didn't vote.

If its me, Terpman22 at age 26, I'm probably not leaving for just a few extra million. $30M per year? Send me where I need to be to get that.

 

[Anarchy99]

I think the question may not fully align with what Aiyuk is shooting for. I suspect he wants a big signing bonus with a lot more in guaranteed money. That doesn't translate to a certain amount of money more per year. Staying in SF could mean no extra money and the possibility of a franchise tag . . . that's NOT what he wants. It also could mean a new deal and a lot of money immediately with guaranteed money. But a trade could mean even more money now and guarantees for additional money. It's likely about how much he can get guaranteed RIGHT NOW than it is AAV for a long- term deal that may have a lot of funny money tacked on to the end that he might never see.

 

[-OZ-]

Different for each place.

Pit - good culture, fields or Russ are competent (one should be at least), $1 million more because I put some value on a better chance for a Super Bowl.

NE - $2 million. Maye could be great, things are changing but I’m not embarrassed to be a Patriot.

CLE - $5 million. Good coaching staff but I want nothing to do with Watson.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

A zillion dollars. For me personally, $X + a Super Bowl ring would be worth more than $Y, where X and Y are both many millions of dollars.

 

[msudaisy26]

I an going to assume Aiyuk is mad that the 49ers are paying everyone, but him. So zero dollars for me. Once your employer has determined that you aren't that important to them there is no reason to stick around if you have other opportunities.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I a going to assume Aiyuk is mad that the 49ers are paying everyone, but him. So zero dollars for me. Once your employer has determined that you aren't that important to them there is no reason to stick around if you have other opportunities.

It’s not that he’s unimportant.

He’s just less important than CMC, Deebo, Williams, & Purdy.

And ya know, they’re probably right.

 

[msudaisy26]

I a going to assume Aiyuk is mad that the 49ers are paying everyone, but him. So zero dollars for me. Once your employer has determined that you aren't that important to them there is no reason to stick around if you have other opportunities.

It’s not that he’s unimportant.

He’s just less important than CMC, Deebo, Williams, & Purdy.

And ya know, they’re probably right.

That maybe true, but Aiyuk disagrees and because him and the 49ers can't agree it has come to this. That is why I say zero dollars.

 

[Joe Bryant]

A zillion dollars. For me personally, $X + a Super Bowl ring would be worth more than $Y, where X and Y are both many millions of dollars.

That's where I am.

My answer would be a ton more. Which means I'd stay in SF.

If I was already rich and set for life like he is, I'd go with team that gave me the best chance of winning a Super Bowl and flourishing.

In my opinion, that's SF.

And FOR SURE, it's a free market and every player can do exactly whatever they want or what the market will bear.

I'm just talking about what I would do.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Different for each place.

Pit - good culture, fields or Russ are competent (one should be at least), $1 million more because I put some value on a better chance for a Super Bowl.

NE - $2 million. Maye could be great, things are changing but I’m not embarrassed to be a Patriot.

CLE - $5 million. Good coaching staff but I want nothing to do with Watson.

Kinda this. If I'm him, I'd be very hesitant to go to NE. The coaching change helps, but it's been toxic there for a while now. That doesn't change overnight. CLE has a better system and coaching staff that's been in place for a while, but I'd still be leery of the culture surrounding the organization. PIT, on the other hand is solid in culture, but I'd be surprised if they really pay top dollar for a WR.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I a going to assume Aiyuk is mad that the 49ers are paying everyone, but him. So zero dollars for me. Once your employer has determined that you aren't that important to them there is no reason to stick around if you have other opportunities.

It’s not that he’s unimportant.

He’s just less important than CMC, Deebo, Williams, & Purdy.

And ya know, they’re probably right.

That maybe true, but Aiyuk disagrees and because him and the 49ers can't agree it has come to this. That is why I say zero dollars.

I think that’s fair and reasonable.

It strikes me that perhaps Ayuk also knows it’s true, but is desperately trying to capitalize on his outlier season to maximize his financial return.

I get it, and I don’t necessarily blame him for it, but I do think he’s making a mistake. At some point enough $ is enough, and winning matters.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A zillion dollars. For me personally, $X + a Super Bowl ring would be worth more than $Y, where X and Y are both many millions of dollars.

That's where I am.

My answer would be a ton more. Which means I'd stay in SF.

If I was already rich and set for life like he is, I'd go with team that gave me the best chance of winning a Super Bowl and flourishing.

In my opinion, that's SF.

And FOR SURE, it's a free market and every player can do exactly whatever they want or what the market will bear.

I'm just talking about what I would do

exactly how I see it. Well said.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

 

[travdogg]

Probably different for each team. I wouldn't say if leaving SF, that the Browns, Steelers, and Patriots are equals. The Browns and Steelers are playoff teams, who (in theory) have both improved since last season, especially if they add me (as Aiyuk) whereas NE is a candidate to finish with the #1 pick and adding me (again as Aiyuk) might not change that very much, though long term, NE might be the best landing spot if Maye hits.

I said 2 million, as a bit of a hedge. I can see the argument for 5+ or 0. We just don't know enough of what has gone on behind the scenes and in talks. So we are only judging by situation, which is probably just a small part of the picture.

 

[Ray_T]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

well, for a while he wasnt getting along with his coach. perhaps thats playing a role here. remember when he was benched in his second year?

 

[PIK95]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

But you get to live in the most educated and prosperous part of the country. That has to count for something.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

well, for a while he wasnt getting along with his coach. perhaps thats playing a role here. remember when he was benched in his second year?

For immaturity.

Which he seemingly is still struggling with based on his post-Super Bowl social media antics.

 

[Grid71]

Picked zero but not really about getting more money from team x vs team y. It’s being shown the respect I earned. And the 49ers offer is well below what I deserve.

• been a team first teammate willing to do everything to make others succeed. Block, decoy, make plays.
• achieved elite status facing the best in the world
• dealt with my boss holding me back intentionally early on landing in his doghouse. Delayed opportunities to be elite sooner
• Yes I’m insulted when asked to take less than my peers but expect it’s all posturing.
• If I don’t stand up for myself now, might not get an elite contract later.

Bottom line, it’s not about making an extra million here vs there. I expect to be compensated in line with my peers. If the 9ers don’t believe in me then I want out. If I have to move to a different organization to feel respected then so be it.

 

[Jppaul]

A zillion dollars. For me personally, $X + a Super Bowl ring would be worth more than $Y, where X and Y are both many millions of dollars.

this

... BECAUSE there's very little difference to me between $30million and $25million. Once I got enough money -- chance to win, team/work environment, and style of living would be the qualifiers.

I make nothing, but have chosen jobs that paid slightly less because the higher paying job would've sucked.

 

[Soulfly3]

Make more money and be the man.

Not hard to figure out. I genuinely don't think winning a SB is anyone's absolute priority. They want to win, no doubt... A playoff team that gets you paid is probably MORE than enough for 99% of em.

The SB is the cherry on top

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I make nothing, but have chosen jobs that paid slightly less because the higher paying job would've sucked.

My entire reason for self-employment.

It’s certainly not the short hours, hot groupies, or staggering pay. Lord only knows.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Make more money and be the man.

Not hard to figure out. I genuinely don't think winning a SB is anyone's absolute priority. They want to win, no doubt... A playoff team that gets you paid is probably MORE than enough for 99% of em.

The SB is the cherry on top

I do believe many players care about their legacy.

It’s just that the ones that only care about $ are much louder.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The whole where you live and pay taxes is somewhat overblown. Lots of pro athletes rent during the season and live elsewhere. And taxes are figured from where you played so only half is from home, the rest go game by game for the individual states you play in.

So being a tax person for an NFL player probably pays pretty well.

 

[Ray_T]

well, for a while he wasnt getting along with his coach. perhaps thats playing a role here. remember when he was benched in his second year?

For immaturity.

Which he seemingly is still struggling with based on his post-Super Bowl social media antics.

agreed. and maybe Shanny has tired of his song and dance.

he does strike me as a bit of a deva. I think if the guy was good in the dressing room you fork out the money. but if hes a problem in the room maybe that's actually what has led to this moment. he doesnt wanna fork out a bunch of dough on a guy who is gonna be a headache.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

But you get to live in the most educated and prosperous part of the country. That has to count for something.

Wait, why did you pivot to Cleveland?

 

[Grid71]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Now… if you tell me the 9ers will match the last top WR contract and New England offers 5 million more, I stay in San Francisco. I’ve been shown the respect from my team and I want to help them win a SB.

Issue is being offered less than what I deserve when I only get one shot at my first non rookie deal contract.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

well, for a while he wasnt getting along with his coach. perhaps thats playing a role here. remember when he was benched in his second year?

For immaturity.

Which he seemingly is still struggling with based on his post-Super Bowl social media antics.

agreed. and maybe Shanny has tired of his song and dance.

he does strike me as a bit of a deva. I think if the guy was good in the dressing room you fork out the money. but if hes a problem in the room maybe that's actually what has led to this moment. he doesnt wanna fork out a bunch of dough on a guy who is gonna be a headache.

Yeah, they didn’t have any issue paying Deebo, who’s been a model teammate even during negotiations.

 

[jumper]

Lots of talk about Aiyuk leaving SF.

Obviously, he's currently in a great situation as a Super Bowl contender an an offensive minded head coach.

But he clearly is considering going to another team where he could make more money.

If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you have to make in PIT, CLE or NE to leave SF?

Guaranteed money is as important if not more important than the total amount IMHO. I bet if any of the teams offered him a Cooper Kupp deal right but with more fully guaranteed money he'd take it. Let's take the Kupp deal of $26.7MM/year and up the fully guaranteed portion from $35MM to $50MM and I bet he signs.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Thanks but I don't understand. You'd leave SF if they don't pay you as elite for another team that would pay the same as SF?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Thanks but I don't understand. You'd leave SF if they don't pay you as elite for another team that would pay the same as SF?

Maybe he gets more targets somewhere else. Maybe it sets him up for another, mid/late career contract at a higher pay level. Maybe it’s pure ego. Maybe pure stats. I can think of plenty of reasons.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Thanks but I don't understand. You'd leave SF if they don't pay you as elite for another team that would pay the same as SF?

Maybe he gets more targets somewhere else. Maybe it sets him up for another, mid/late career contract at a higher pay level. Maybe it’s pure ego. Maybe pure stats. I can think of plenty of reasons.

My question was he said it was about being paid as elite.

 

[Grid71]

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Thanks but I don't understand. You'd leave SF if they don't pay you as elite for another team that would pay the same as SF?

No. I think the poll doesn’t cover the real issue.

 

[sm8680]

I'd rather discuss why did Tom Brady at times gave a team discount. Brandon is so over hyped at this point in time

 

[Ilov80s]

The ego is a big factor too. You have to be kind of a psycho egomaniac to get to Pro Bowl level status in the NFL. So sometimes when people say it’s about the money they don’t even mean it in the sense of what the money can buy but in the sense the money is a public reflection of their value. Getting to say you are the highest paid player at your position or you make $30 million a year, that matters to a lot of these guys just like 100 catches does or 10 TDs.

 

[jabarony]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Now… if you tell me the 9ers will match the last top WR contract and New England offers 5 million more, I stay in San Francisco. I’ve been shown the respect from my team and I want to help them win a SB.

Issue is being offered less than what I deserve when I only get one shot at my first non rookie deal contract.

But he's not elite.

 

[Ray_T]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Now… if you tell me the 9ers will match the last top WR contract and New England offers 5 million more, I stay in San Francisco. I’ve been shown the respect from my team and I want to help them win a SB.

Issue is being offered less than what I deserve when I only get one shot at my first non rookie deal contract.

But he's not elite.

no. hes a cut below that level. there are the top 5 or 6 in the NFL and then there is him.
obviously he thinks he could put up better numbers elsewhere and wants to be paid for what hed do elsewhere. but that is not the way the world works (at least not very often)

but he can do what he wants. sounds like his team told him to go away.

 

[Grid71]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Now… if you tell me the 9ers will match the last top WR contract and New England offers 5 million more, I stay in San Francisco. I’ve been shown the respect from my team and I want to help them win a SB.

Issue is being offered less than what I deserve when I only get one shot at my first non rookie deal contract.

But he's not elite.

no. hes a cut below that level. there are the top 5 or 6 in the NFL and then there is him.
obviously he thinks he could put up better numbers elsewhere and wants to be paid for what hed do elsewhere. but that is not the way the world works (at least not very often)

but he can do what he wants. sounds like his team told him to go away.

what about his game is a cut below the top 5-6 WR? target share is the only thing i can think of due to how SF operates more than a negative reflection of his talent.

Reception Perception analysis is a source I respect. They call Aiyuk elite.
My perception, Aiyuk is also the best blocking WR of the elite. He's been a team player, just hasn't had the target volume in SF.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Thanks but I don't understand. You'd leave SF if they don't pay you as elite for another team that would pay the same as SF?

Maybe he gets more targets somewhere else. Maybe it sets him up for another, mid/late career contract at a higher pay level. Maybe it’s pure ego. Maybe pure stats. I can think of plenty of reasons.

My question was he said it was about being paid as elite.

I think the answer still stands.

 

[Ray_T]

The zero dollar votes are fascinating to me.

For the same money, you'd go to Jerod Mayo and New England instead of stay with Shanahan and that offense?

I voted zero but it’s not about being paid more elsewhere. I want to be compensated as elite. If San Fran won’t show me that respect, then I would move on.

Now… if you tell me the 9ers will match the last top WR contract and New England offers 5 million more, I stay in San Francisco. I’ve been shown the respect from my team and I want to help them win a SB.

Issue is being offered less than what I deserve when I only get one shot at my first non rookie deal contract.

But he's not elite.

no. hes a cut below that level. there are the top 5 or 6 in the NFL and then there is him.
obviously he thinks he could put up better numbers elsewhere and wants to be paid for what hed do elsewhere. but that is not the way the world works (at least not very often)

but he can do what he wants. sounds like his team told him to go away.

what about his game is a cut below the top 5-6 WR? target share is the only thing i can think of due to how SF operates more than a negative reflection of his talent.

Reception Perception analysis is a source I respect. They call Aiyuk elite.
My perception, Aiyuk is also the best blocking WR of the elite. He's been a team player, just hasn't had the target volume in SF.

most teams pay for what you have already done.

hes had a 1000 yard season and a 1300 yard season. while I agree he has potential to be better but no rational owner pays him what the 1500-1600 yard WR are getting. Even if you think that kind of production may be in his future. if they cant agree, then he bets on himself and lets them tag him with the franchise tag and then it costs them even more if he lights it up again.

San Fran knows this game. what I find to be interesting is that Deebo signed his big money deal without half of this amount of fanfare. I'm wondering if the guy is a bit of a deva/problem behind closed doors. if they loved him that much they'd sign him, and trade deebo away and be done with it. but it would seem they dont want that and there must be a reason for this.

either way, I dont call Aiyuk elite. hes a cut below. still very good but he hasnt had a 1500+ yard season and thats what elite gets you now.

while I agree he could be elite in the future, we dont know that for sure. so if signing a contract, he should be willing to take a bit less than what those guys are getting. its plain and simple.

Personally I think his negotiating power would be way better if he had just won a superbowl ring. If I'm in his shoes and really want the money I'd wait til the contract is actually over before putting up this much of a fuss. dude still has 1 year remaining. he should be focused on Balling out and winning that superbowl ring. not chasing the money. if he gets that superbowl ring, the money will follow. he wont likely even have to ask for it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Sounds like the Pats were ready to pony up $30M but Aiyuk had no interest.

I don't think the Steelers talks is totally dead but the 49ers wanted too much. According to local sports radio in Pittsburgh:

Here is what the Steelers are willing to put into a trade for Brandon Aiyuk:

• Dan Moore Jr
• James Daniels
• Calvin Austin
• 2nd round pick

The 49ers want one of these back in trade for Aiyuk:

• 1st round pick
• Pat Freiermuth
• George Pickens

Gonna be difficult to get something done IMO. Aiyuk wants to get paid + play for a contender. The 49ers want commiserate value.

Getting one would be hard, and achieving both is going to be especially tricky.

 

[travdogg]

Sounds like the Pats were ready to pony up $30M but Aiyuk had no interest.

I don't think the Steelers talks is totally dead but the 49ers wanted too much. According to local sports radio in Pittsburgh:

Here is what the Steelers are willing to put into a trade for Brandon Aiyuk:

• Dan Moore Jr
• James Daniels
• Calvin Austin
• 2nd round pick

The 49ers want one of these back in trade for Aiyuk:

• 1st round pick
• Pat Freiermuth
• George Pickens

Gonna be difficult to get something done IMO. Aiyuk wants to get paid + play for a contender. The 49ers want commiserate value.

Getting one would be hard, and achieving both is going to be especially tricky.

If its just about getting one of those things back, I'd happily add Freiermuth to the deal instead of Daniels ideally. Freiermuth is in a contract year, and they have depth with Washington and Heyward. Also TE would likely be spending more time blocking than receiving if the WRs were Aiyuk/Pickens/Wilson.

If Moore/Freiermuth/2nd rounder got it done, I'd be all over that if I were the Steelers. If I were the 49ers, I guess I'd be getting ready to be a mostly 12 personnel team, with Kittle likely playing more slot than TE.

Also would allow the Steelers to bring their rookies along slower if Daniels can still start for a year.

 

[titusbramble]

If I was Aiyuk, I would have all the money I could ever need already and would move to the team most likely to win me a ring regardless of the salary