I'm benching Jahvid Best from now on hype train (1 Viewer)

[red]

sheesh!! vs. the worst rush def in the league!!!!

i know PTTS or take it to the venting thread....

 

[dickey moe]

And next week is the week he'll score 40.

 

[Dought Man]

boarded several weeks ago. Been waiting for some others..

 

[Bojang0301]

Glad I stuck to my guns on Dez Bryant in rookie drafts.

 

[Fragis Frodum]

In.

 

[stronger88]

And next week is the week he'll score 40.

Keep telling yourself that...

 

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I'm done. About the only other thing I have for RB2 is Ronnie Brown. He sucks, but at least he scores a TD once in a while.

 

[trout]

On my bench until he can turn things around.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I had to play him today, but this will be the last week.

 

[damageinc]

Ive been a huge supporter of his but even I might be off the bandwagon after today. that was just bad. Not what I expected at all. I wouldnt be suprised to see K Smith get the start next week. Just dismall. He looks more and more like Reggie Bush every game.

Ofcourse since I have only Beanie Wells and CJ Spiller after him Im stuck starting Best.

 

[gheemony]

In. Will probably turn to Torain or even if a WR (it's RB/WR flex).

 

[Los Gigantes]

debating starting crabtree instead in the flex spot for him next week.

lack of production from marshall, best, and ADP this week hurt up against fred jackson and orton!

 

[Da Guru]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.

Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

 

[GroveDiesel]

 

[RBM]

I would love to bench his ### but not sure Spiller, McGahee or J James is a better option.

Best sucks right now. Run him inside, pitch it to him outside, set up some screens for him, he simply sucks at all of it.

 

[Northbound Train]

Diehard here and owner of him in 3 leagues....he WILL not suit up for me again until I at least see him try and run inside the tackles. I won't be surprised to see him lose the job to Kevin Smith soon enough. Smith is running hard, between the tackles, can block and is good at catching the ball. Best needs to learn quite a bit...very disappointed in his regression from the early weeks. I can understand one, two, maybe even 3 tough games but he's looked terrible to say it mildly for about 7-8 weeks.

He should be on everybody's bench!!!!!

 

[Northbound Train]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

 

[RBM]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

Charles is a much better runner than Best right now.

 

[bakes]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

Charles is a much better runner than Best right now.

Benched Best for Charles in one league, and the only reason I have him active in the other is a severe dearth of backup RB talent (start 2, other is Hillis).

 

[FarEastKilla]

Turf toe is no joke, especially for a rookie. This is a mirror image season of Darren McFadden's rookie year.

 

[Northbound Train]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

Charles is a much better runner than Best right now.

Yes....but he plays like him and should be used like him is what I was implying...does NOT look like he has the tools to be an every down back.

 

[abhall]

I own him in 2 leagues and will not start him again unless he blows up and has huge games 3 weeks in a row. I started him over Dwayne Bowe at Flex in a league today.

 

[Eph]

Thinking about dropping him for Fred Jackson who wound up on my waiver. With Spiller hurt, Jackson's a much better play than Best now.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

I'm on this hype train, but only with the understanding that Jahvid Best's turf toe injury will make him the top dynasty buy-low of the offseason. In fact, this is almost a perfect storm. Can't wait.

 

[boobook]

Agree with the above post, with Spiller hurt, I might just go with Fred Jackson also.

Luckily I just barely pulled out the win, but those FJ points on the bench would have been sweet.

 

[TS Garp]

He was terrible but at least part of the blame has to go to the Lions insistence on running him up the middle. They need to accept that he's not a prototypical every down back, to say the least, so throw him the ball on screens, short slants, etc. I think he can be reasonably effective, but not with the way he's being used.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

My other RB's are DeAngelo Williams and Thomas Jones. Glad I started the year so dang good because I see a struggle coming up.

 

[cvnpoka]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

i think you should reassess your perception of your ability to evaluate football talent.

 

[monkeysee]

 

[sandlotshrink]

He was terrible but at least part of the blame has to go to the Lions insistence on running him up the middle. They need to accept that he's not a prototypical every down back, to say the least, so throw him the ball on screens, short slants, etc. I think he can be reasonably effective, but not with the way he's being used.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Worst run blocking Oline in football doesnt help him at all.

 

[doowain]

I sold Best at the height of his value this year in the only league I owned him. He reminds me of a suped up Matt Forte....and I want no part of that.

 

[damageinc]

Partially agree. they throw to Kevin Smith in space and throw bwhind the line to Best. They run best up the middle. Best is not a run up the gut runner. If your going to have best as your starting running back he needs the ball in space and runs to the outside. no excuses , he stank but the team needs to use him correctly.

He was terrible but at least part of the blame has to go to the Lions insistence on running him up the middle. They need to accept that he's not a prototypical every down back, to say the least, so throw him the ball on screens, short slants, etc. I think he can be reasonably effective, but not with the way he's being used.

 

[mphtrilogy]

moreno will be tagged in next week for me

 

[Shutout]

If you're in a dynasty or keeper, a lot of you guys just need to have some patience. Turf toe is no joke but turf toe in both feet? I'm honestly amazed he is even active. Go back and take a look at it and you will see that turf toe has derailed some very productive backs. You just can't ignore it. Add that to the fact that the team has been shuffling offensive starters all year and there really hasn't been any continuity. Also, this is still a growing team that can add mroe to their o-line next offseason. I think being patient will pay off.

With that being said, I understand the frustration. I positioned myself to be able to add Ryan Matthews, Best, and McCluster this season and really thought I wouldn't have to go through a grwoing pains season but its been a rough year. I bring that up to point out Matthews. How are the Matthews owners feeling? About the same as Best owners, I promise you. But all of us Matthews owners aren't ready to cut bait. It just is easier to see how the injuries have deralied the rookie's seasons.

I will Hold Best. Better days are ahead, but, yeah, if I have better options, I can't play him right now (but the reality is there probably aren't too many teams that have Best that have the luxury of sliding in a clear cut improvement as a replacement).

 

[cmv5]

Partially agree. they throw to Kevin Smith in space and throw bwhind the line to Best. They run best up the middle. Best is not a run up the gut runner. If your going to have best as your starting running back he needs the ball in space and runs to the outside. no excuses , he stank but the team needs to use him correctly.

He was terrible but at least part of the blame has to go to the Lions insistence on running him up the middle. They need to accept that he's not a prototypical every down back, to say the least, so throw him the ball on screens, short slants, etc. I think he can be reasonably effective, but not with the way he's being used.

I agree. They need to be more creative with Best. It reminds me a lot of the misuse of Darren McFadden the last couple of years. With that being said, Best looked woefully average in this game, let alone good or better. Until he has a good game he should be firmly on the bench, right next to Beanie Wells.

 

[solorca]

Even with a 93 yard/1TD game only netting my 15 points in a PPR yesterday, I still think I'm going to start playing LeGarrette Blount over him. I've been accepting of Best's performance because he's been relatively solid as a RB2 in my PPR over the year, but yesterday was just ugly. His ceiling at this point seems to be about 15-16 points.

Hopefully Pierre Thomas will be back this week and I can just play him.

 

[unckeyherb]

I wasn't able to watch much of the game, but from what I saw they seemingly only ran him into the gut (which basically meant running into defenders). When they threw to him, it was basically a lateral, behind the LOS where he would immediately be met by a defender. I don't care about his lack of rushing ability, but you gotta play to his strengths. Hit him on screens and dumps where he won't be met multiple hits as soon as he turns his head.

Not many RB's would do well on that team, behind that line with th plays that are being called.

Still, he'll be on my bench until someone as smart as me is calling the plays.

 

[sho nuff]

BJGE may be my flex from here on out.

I would say Steve Johnson but that crapburger he put up yesterday didn't help me any either.

 

[Da Guru]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

Charles is a much better runner than Best right now.

Charles is a much better runner than Best. Even in space I have been dissappointed in Best this year.

 

[Da Guru]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

Charles is a much better runner than Best right now.

 

[Crash Davis]

Addai can't get healthy fast enough for me. I don't have many other options, so he may find my lineup this week, as soon as Addai is back playing Best finds the bench though. I think it's a combination of a few things, the toe, the OL, and yes, not being a great inside runner. In redrafts, I don't see how you can feel comfortable starting him, but many in situations like mine might not have viable options.

 

[CowboysFromHell]

BJGE may be my flex from here on out.I would say Steve Johnson but that crapburger he put up yesterday didn't help me any either.

Thinking the same with BJGE over Best in the flex. But, watch-out cause I also have Woodhead who will surely go ape-#### if I start BJGE. Will keep the SP posted.

 

[damageinc]

Jahvid Best did not blame his troublesome toes when asked about his struggles in Sunday's loss to the Bills.

Best managed just 35 yards on 17 carries against the league's worst run defense. If he's not hurt, it's a troubling day. Best hasn't topped 48 rushing yards in any of his last four games and hasn't scored a touchdown since Week 2. He says his dual turf toe injuries bother him after the game, but not while he's playing.

Nov. 15 - 10:35 a.m. ET

Source: MLive.com

 

[TS Garp]

Jahvid Best did not blame his troublesome toes when asked about his struggles in Sunday's loss to the Bills.Best managed just 35 yards on 17 carries against the league's worst run defense. If he's not hurt, it's a troubling day. Best hasn't topped 48 rushing yards in any of his last four games and hasn't scored a touchdown since Week 2. He says his dual turf toe injuries bother him after the game, but not while he's playing.Nov. 15 - 10:35 a.m. ETSource: MLive.com

I respect the guy for not making excuses. Now I'd like to hear the Detroit coaching staff own up to the fact that they've been using him incorrectly.

 

[Chunkylover77]

Well he's gotten double digit points for me every week but 2 so I'm going to keep playing him. His stats suck but in PPR he still manages to put up points

 

[Traders2001]

As a Lion fan who has watched all the games let me say this.Best is NOT an every down NFL RB, he gets destroyed when he tries to run between the tackles. Best will never push a pile. Best is the classic third down scat back. Think Leon Washington, Sproles, guys who are in on passing downs and then have success running against nickel defenses.

Jamal Charlesesque...

He doesnt come close to Jamaal Charles .Best is totally worthless and another wasted pick for the Lions ...Even in his first two games he sucked at running the ball ..He was lucky to get scoring opportunities ..

 

[Traders2001]

He was terrible but at least part of the blame has to go to the Lions insistence on running him up the middle. They need to accept that he's not a prototypical every down back, to say the least, so throw him the ball on screens, short slants, etc. I think he can be reasonably effective, but not with the way he's being used.

Use him like R Bush .On passing downs or passing situations . Smith at 80% is better at running the ball then Best .I dont buy in this turf toe #### , he simply is nt a RB in the NFL ...

 

[damageinc]

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/lionsbl...php?blogid=2452

Is Jahvid Best the answer?

Is Jahvid Best the answer at running back?

It's starting to become more evident with every sub-50-yard rushing game that Best might not be all the Lions hoped he'd be.

During his Monday press conference, Lions coach Jim Schwartz said the Lions ran the ball more efficiently last year, but lacked explosive plays with the run game.

With practically the same unit this season, except for an upgrade at left guard in Rob Sims, the Lions are a far worse running team this season. So if the line hasn't changed much, isn't it reasonable to conclude that it might not be entirely the offensive line's fault that's led to the Lions averaging 81.8 yards per game on the ground and 3.4 yards per rush? Only the Cowboys (78.7) and the Broncos (76.8) rank lower.

Isn't the problem partly on Best? How much Best's turf toe problem is really limiting him, we'll probably never know.

Have teams geared up to stop the Lions' run game? Certainly.

Has the loss of quarterback Matthew Stafford for more than half the season been part of the problem? Perhaps.

But the fact is Best isn't doing what the Lions hoped he'd do when they moved back into the first round of this year's draft to get him.

Maybe he just hit a rookie wall. Maybe he's lost some confidence. But if he's really the back of the future, he needs to show Lions fans something more than one big receiving game (154 yards against the Eagles in Week 2).

Best is a fine receiver (45 catches). But the Lions thought they were getting a fine runner.

If not, maybe Kevin Smith should take on more of the load. He may not get you the big one, but he's shown he can at least get you something.

From The Detroit News: http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/lionsbl...2#ixzz15SDwhM2C

 

[damageinc]

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/lionsbl...php?blogid=2452

Is Jahvid Best the answer?

Is Jahvid Best the answer at running back?

It's starting to become more evident with every sub-50-yard rushing game that Best might not be all the Lions hoped he'd be.

During his Monday press conference, Lions coach Jim Schwartz said the Lions ran the ball more efficiently last year, but lacked explosive plays with the run game.

With practically the same unit this season, except for an upgrade at left guard in Rob Sims, the Lions are a far worse running team this season. So if the line hasn't changed much, isn't it reasonable to conclude that it might not be entirely the offensive line's fault that's led to the Lions averaging 81.8 yards per game on the ground and 3.4 yards per rush? Only the Cowboys (78.7) and the Broncos (76.8) rank lower.

Isn't the problem partly on Best? How much Best's turf toe problem is really limiting him, we'll probably never know.

Have teams geared up to stop the Lions' run game? Certainly.

Has the loss of quarterback Matthew Stafford for more than half the season been part of the problem? Perhaps.

But the fact is Best isn't doing what the Lions hoped he'd do when they moved back into the first round of this year's draft to get him.

Maybe he just hit a rookie wall. Maybe he's lost some confidence. But if he's really the back of the future, he needs to show Lions fans something more than one big receiving game (154 yards against the Eagles in Week 2).

Best is a fine receiver (45 catches). But the Lions thought they were getting a fine runner.

If not, maybe Kevin Smith should take on more of the load. He may not get you the big one, but he's shown he can at least get you something.

From The Detroit News: http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/lionsbl...2#ixzz15SDwhM2C