I'm Glad I Didn't Draft Ryan Grant (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Mojo]

I was pretty high on Grant as a solid RB2 before the season but somebody outbid me for him.

What a relief as practically every TD in Green Bay, even inside the 5, comes on passes.

Even Rodgers has ran in 3.

It would have driven me nuts (unless I had Rodgers, too).

My sympathy to all of those who have Grant.

 

[Tree Shaker]

Thank you for you sympathies.

If I have to see one more 1st and Goal pass from either Rodgers or Favre (I have both Grant and ADP), I think I'm going to scream.

 

[sho nuff]

Standard scoring...he ended up 13th in points.

Pretty much a solid RB2.

I wish I would have drafted him.

Edit...finished ahead of guys like Forte, Kevin Smith, Portis, Tomlinson, Barber, Jacobs, R. Bush, Pierre Thomas, and Steve Slaton.

 

[harryhood]

Bought him for 23 as my RB2(could have had rice for the same price probably ) but he has been serviceable up until last night in PPR. Gets me anywhere from 12-20 but I fully agree with you. The throwing from the 3 is frustrating.

The suspect defense has been playing much better as of late, but you would think McCarthy would want to keep them OFF the field as much as possible. Not to say give it to him on every first and second down, but a 3rd and short is usually a gimmie for Rodgers and those receivers.

 

[conboy]

Yes the play calling in GB has been very frustrating. After the Driver turnover results in a Ravens TD, the Packers come out throwing, back to Driver. Several weeks ago, Grant was in on 3rd downs, late in the game and was making plays, not he is almost never in on 3rd downs. What the hell?

 

[Crusaderfan]

As a Frank Gore owner, I feel your pain. :(

 

[sho nuff]

The Ravens 2ndary was banged up and they were still stopping the run. Why would GB just run it at some of those points?

McCarthy actually called a nice game yesterday.

 

[zamboni]

I don't know - he is what he thought he'd be. A top 10-15 guy with a lot of carries but perhaps not a ton of TDs.

 

[T Bag]

Thank you for you sympathies.If I have to see one more 1st and Goal pass from either Rodgers or Favre (I have both Grant and ADP), I think I'm going to scream.

I feel your pain. I have Grant and Ray Rice. Between Rodgers' 1st & Goal passes and QB sneaks and McGayhee vulturing Rice I think my head might explode. It's almost like the Pack is making a concerted effort to keep Grant out of the end zone. Last night I didn't have a problem with GB passing when it's 1st & Goal on the 8, but 1st & Goal on the 2 and no run? Really? How about rewarding your RB once in a while. I wonder if Grant has some incentive in his contract for scoring x number of TD's that GB doesn't want him to reach.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Grant finished 15th in my PPR leagues, and was very consistent. Can't complain.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Grant has fantasy value because he gets almost all of the carries. But we've seen enough of McCarthy's offense to know that even when he talks about a "power running game" he really means "effective running game."

With Rodgers' increased command of the playbook and more healthy receivers to creat mismatches, why would you choose to run it inside the 5 with a so-so line against better interior players?

Grant's season stats look good, about what I expected, but not as good for my fantasy teams as I hoped. That's because, by design, Grant getting 4- and 5-yard gains is what's important to this offense, more than his scoring TDs.

 

[CaptainHook]

i guess ill just keep drafting this guy every year then.

its amazing how many people will just ignore the stats when a guy isnt flashy

 

[N4S]

I have him too but thank you to Jon Stewart this weekend.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Didn't we just do this thread? Count me in as being glad I drafted him.

 

[stlrams]

I agree with the earlier post. This is two years now where we've seen GB rather throw then run in Td's in the redzone. Clearly there's a trend so in TD's heavy leagues you need to take this into account.

 

[Dought Man]

The NFL is moving toward being a pass happy league inside the 10 nowadays. Spread the defense out and someone will get open. McCarthy also has the additional option of having Rodgers running it in as well.

Passing inside the 5 seems like a better option for the Packers. The offensive line hasn't exactly opened up huge holes this year.

 

[Casting Couch]

Standard scoring...he ended up 13th in points.Pretty much a solid RB2.I wish I would have drafted him.Edit...finished ahead of guys like Forte, Kevin Smith, Portis, Tomlinson, Barber, Jacobs, R. Bush, Pierre Thomas, and Steve Slaton.

I'm also happy to own him. He rarely put's up really low fantasy numbers.He's a solid #2 FF RB.

 

[Freakin'Farmer]

Standard scoring...he ended up 13th in points.Pretty much a solid RB2.I wish I would have drafted him.Edit...finished ahead of guys like Forte, Kevin Smith, Portis, Tomlinson, Barber, Jacobs, R. Bush, Pierre Thomas, and Steve Slaton.

I'm also happy to own him. He rarely put's up really low fantasy numbers.He's a solid #2 FF RB.

He's my RB2 in a PPR but last night all I needed 6.7 lousy points from him and didn't get them. A. Green had all the nice rushes for GB. Grants longest 6-7 yards rush was called back for holding. Rodgers didn't look his way all night for a pass attempt and Jackson was in on every 3rd down I noticed. Had Jackson been healthy all year I believe Grant's numbers would have been lower for the year. I picked up Harrison last week and Grant will now be my RB3 and maybe ride the bench the remainder of the season. I also disagree on the play calling when your on the 2 yard line you need to rush at least once to burn time off the clock with a lead. Even if you go with Green who had no negtative carrys in 4-5 attempts.

 

[aquateen]

As a Frank Gore owner, I feel your pain.

as the owner of both, it was a painful week...........luckily my playoff spot was clinched

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Bought him for 23 as my RB2(could have had rice for the same price probably ) but he has been serviceable up until last night in PPR. Gets me anywhere from 12-20 but I fully agree with you. The throwing from the 3 is frustrating. The suspect defense has been playing much better as of late, but you would think McCarthy would want to keep them OFF the field as much as possible.

What am I missing? The #1 ranked D is suspect? They've been stuffing the run all season long. Losing Kampan and Harris hurts. However, they continue to stop the run and are now starting to get a lot of pressure on opposing QBs. I'm a little confused by this statement.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Was offered Grant for AQ while AQ was banged up... didn't take it

 

[Instinctive]

I'm thrilled I drafted him. He scored more than 10 points for me every single week until week 8, then again every single week except last night.

That is damn good steady production, and I will take it all day every day. He also went over 25 points twice.

As a guy I got in the 3rd round, and many in the fourth, I expect most people with RB2 expectations are incredibly pleased.

 

[basher]

Bought him for 23 as my RB2(could have had rice for the same price probably ) but he has been serviceable up until last night in PPR. Gets me anywhere from 12-20 but I fully agree with you. The throwing from the 3 is frustrating. The suspect defense has been playing much better as of late, but you would think McCarthy would want to keep them OFF the field as much as possible.

What am I missing? The #1 ranked D is suspect? They've been stuffing the run all season long. Losing Kampan and Harris hurts. However, they continue to stop the run and are now starting to get a lot of pressure on opposing QBs. I'm a little confused by this statement.

people make uninformed comments all the time.

 

[harryhood]

Bought him for 23 as my RB2(could have had rice for the same price probably ) but he has been serviceable up until last night in PPR. Gets me anywhere from 12-20 but I fully agree with you. The throwing from the 3 is frustrating. The suspect defense has been playing much better as of late, but you would think McCarthy would want to keep them OFF the field as much as possible.

What am I missing? The #1 ranked D is suspect? They've been stuffing the run all season long. Losing Kampan and Harris hurts. However, they continue to stop the run and are now starting to get a lot of pressure on opposing QBs. I'm a little confused by this statement.

people make uninformed comments all the time.

Of course - must be uninformed to be talking down to the dear pack fans. Looking at the 13 week body of work, you really think this group is the best defense in the league from an NFL standpoint? Gimmie a break.Bears, Rams, Lionsx2, Browns (Cowboys), Ravens they look like world beaters. I see MAYBE one playoff team from this group.Tampa, Minnyx2, Cincy, (49ers) they gave up 24+ and lose all but 1. Other than the cowboys I don't see a win vs. a playoff team. The playoff teams you have faced, have handled you.You have had 4 games against teams that are headed to the playoffs and have allowed a combined 106 points in those 4 games. #1 defenses don't allow an average of 26 points to playoff teams.

 

[Max Fischer]

I was high high on Grant preseason and drafted him in the third round as my RB2. I had a sneaky hope that he would surprise to the upside given the overall talent on the GB offense. Most years around draft time, it seems there are a small handful of neglected RBs coming off high yardage/low TD total seasons that end up breaking out (I'm thinking Curtis Martin from like four years ago, Thomas Jones a couple years back, etc.). Grant seemed like a good candidate for this kind of year (Who would have thought Rodgers would keep calling his own number at the goal - and John Kuhn hawking TDs?).

Anyway, it didn't work out like we hoped, but the guy is no bust. He's been a legit starter. I hope he's undervalued next year. I'll draft him. However, I think it might be wise for the Packers to address running back in the off season - He's not exactly the most explosive or powerful guy in the league.

 

[sho nuff]

Bought him for 23 as my RB2(could have had rice for the same price probably :( ) but he has been serviceable up until last night in PPR. Gets me anywhere from 12-20 but I fully agree with you. The throwing from the 3 is frustrating. The suspect defense has been playing much better as of late, but you would think McCarthy would want to keep them OFF the field as much as possible.

What am I missing? The #1 ranked D is suspect? They've been stuffing the run all season long. Losing Kampan and Harris hurts. However, they continue to stop the run and are now starting to get a lot of pressure on opposing QBs. I'm a little confused by this statement.

people make uninformed comments all the time.

Of course - must be uninformed to be talking down to the dear pack fans. Looking at the 13 week body of work, you really think this group is the best defense in the league from an NFL standpoint? Gimmie a break.Bears, Rams, Lionsx2, Browns (Cowboys), Ravens they look like world beaters. I see MAYBE one playoff team from this group.Tampa, Minnyx2, Cincy, (49ers) they gave up 24+ and lose all but 1. Other than the cowboys I don't see a win vs. a playoff team. The playoff teams you have faced, have handled you.You have had 4 games against teams that are headed to the playoffs and have allowed a combined 106 points in those 4 games. #1 defenses don't allow an average of 26 points to playoff teams.

1st year of the 3/4...people said they could not transition well to it.Yet here they are...#1 in yards against...#8 in points against. #2 in takeaways.The last several weeks we have seen what this D can do...the aggression Capers is bringing is far different than how he started this year.There have been lapses, no doubt...but you also have to look if all of that was on the D...or some on Rodgers (tampa) and the special teams (Tampa and Minny game).To call it a suspect D is downright laughable to just about anyone who has watched this team recently.

 

[Instinctive]

I was high high on Grant preseason and drafted him in the third round as my RB2. I had a sneaky hope that he would surprise to the upside given the overall talent on the GB offense. Most years around draft time, it seems there are a small handful of neglected RBs coming off high yardage/low TD total seasons that end up breaking out (I'm thinking Curtis Martin from like four years ago, Thomas Jones a couple years back, etc.). Grant seemed like a good candidate for this kind of year (Who would have thought Rodgers would keep calling his own number at the goal - and John Kuhn hawking TDs?). Anyway, it didn't work out like we hoped, but the guy is no bust. He's been a legit starter. I hope he's undervalued next year. I'll draft him. However, I think it might be wise for the Packers to address running back in the off season - He's not exactly the most explosive or powerful guy in the league.

i think I may be able to get him even later next year...Pack has more pressing issues like OLine and future replacements for corners...He looks pretty explosive when he actually gets a hole, has a pretty respectable ypc despite getting hit in the backfield with amazing consistency. I think when that line gels and if they add a guy, he will be more "Thomas Jones last year" than people expect. No matter how you slice it, at least he's a better pick than Forte

 

[harryhood]

He is doing just fine. tyvmHe has been among the very best #2 RBs in every league I play in. And he is 6for6 in playoff appearances in those leagues.Next week (@ Chicago) will be very big towards his overall "perceived" value/production for 2009.

-RB14 in my PPR(I wish he could have got to RB12, right behind Tom Jones)- Double digits in 10 of 12 But I think he is a liability in Week 15 against Pitt. I am not sure he can get his 12 against them. Especially with a healthy Jackson.

 

[beavers]

137 RuYd, 2 RuTD (62,1), 7 ReYd, 2 Recpt today v Chicago.

I'm glad I drafted him as he helped me win my playoff game.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Didn't we just do this thread? Count me in as being glad I drafted him.

 

[sos32]

137 RuYd, 2 RuTD (62,1), 7 ReYd, 2 Recpt today v Chicago.I'm glad I drafted him as he helped me win my playoff game.

Me too!!!! He may not set the world on fire but his points are always there and occasionally (like today) he drops more than usual.RB2 or RB3 he is tough to not have!

 

[Barry]

137 RuYd, 2 RuTD (62,1), 7 ReYd, 2 Recpt today v Chicago.I'm glad I drafted him as he helped me win my playoff game.

god the shark pool sucks

 

[beavers]

137 RuYd, 2 RuTD (62,1), 7 ReYd, 2 Recpt today v Chicago.I'm glad I drafted him as he helped me win my playoff game.

god the shark pool sucks

Ooof. Let's put you in the "I'm glad I didn't draft Ryan Grant" crowd.

 

[Instinctive]

Huh...wonder what everyone who was on the Ronnie Brown end of the "Brown or Grant in the third round?" debate has to say right now...

 

[beavers]

97 rushing yards with 2 TDs.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

he was my target after starting most drafts wr-wr or wr-qb. glad I had him

 

[Gopher State]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffs

so much for Grant helping them win

 

[rrhartjr]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

I don't understand assertions like these. Is your drafting and in-season acumen so bad that one third round player has crippled your ability to succeed?Is anyone here saying that Kevin Smith or Pierre Thomas ruined your season? Did you do so little research as to overpay for a player who clearly didn't have elite value, merely servicable.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Thanks to, in part, Grant, I took down my championship last night.

 

[beavers]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

In two out of the three leagues that I'm in, the championship winner owns Grant.

 

[sho nuff]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Then your Grant owners drafted poorly other than the likely value they got with Grant.

 

[Reaper]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Then your Grant owners drafted poorly other than the likely value they got with Grant.

More importantly - What's the deal for next year? Better OL? Draft a RB? Has Grant's value changed?

 

[Banger]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Then your Grant owners drafted poorly other than the likely value they got with Grant.

More importantly - What's the deal for next year? Better OL? Draft a RB? Has Grant's value changed?

He's a dynasty risk IMO and I'd look to sell him.

 

[sho nuff]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Then your Grant owners drafted poorly other than the likely value they got with Grant.

More importantly - What's the deal for next year? Better OL? Draft a RB? Has Grant's value changed?

He's a dynasty risk IMO and I'd look to sell him.

Agreed at this point.Not sure what they will draft.They seem happy with he and Jackson.I think they will attempt to bolster the Oline.Hard to really say right now as well as Grant has played in recent weeks.

 

[Tree Shaker]

Thanks to, in part, Grant, I took down my championship last night.

I our league the championship was also taken by the Grant owner.OK, it was me.

 

[Banger]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Then your Grant owners drafted poorly other than the likely value they got with Grant.

More importantly - What's the deal for next year? Better OL? Draft a RB? Has Grant's value changed?

He's a dynasty risk IMO and I'd look to sell him.

Agreed at this point.Not sure what they will draft.They seem happy with he and Jackson.I think they will attempt to bolster the Oline.Hard to really say right now as well as Grant has played in recent weeks.

He's good enough to get by but if someone they like drops to them I could definitely see them drafting a back.

 

[Scooby1974]

In my four leagues Grant owners were 0-4 in making the playoffsso much for Grant helping them win

Exactly what I was thinking. He didn't do his owner in our league any favors either. He's been golfing for a couple weeks in our league.

 

[sho nuff]

He's good enough to get by but if someone they like drops to them I could definitely see them drafting a back.

I could see it if Spiller drops...but I don't think he drops that far to them.

 

[Instinctive]

He's good enough to get by but if someone they like drops to them I could definitely see them drafting a back.

I could see it if Spiller drops...but I don't think he drops that far to them.

I think they have more pressing OLine problems. This is the third season Grant has been very good, if not exactly stellar. Lats year was down, but he exploded on 2 years ago and this season...what's not to like about double digit TDs, 1200 yards, and a ypc over 4.0?Oh, and I won, with Grant at 3.01 - the earliest anyone took him in any of my drafts. And I missed on my 4,6,7,8 picks. Colston at 2 so my WR corps didn't start out great either.I know of at least 3 weeks where Grant made it for me, including the most important one, week 16

 

[sho nuff]

He's good enough to get by but if someone they like drops to them I could definitely see them drafting a back.

I could see it if Spiller drops...but I don't think he drops that far to them.

I think they have more pressing OLine problems. This is the third season Grant has been very good, if not exactly stellar. Lats year was down, but he exploded on 2 years ago and this season...what's not to like about double digit TDs, 1200 yards, and a ypc over 4.0?Oh, and I won, with Grant at 3.01 - the earliest anyone took him in any of my drafts. And I missed on my 4,6,7,8 picks. Colston at 2 so my WR corps didn't start out great either.I know of at least 3 weeks where Grant made it for me, including the most important one, week 16

I agree they have more pressing needs on the Oline...but do they take the 7th tackle off the board...or a guy as good as Spiller that could help out as a complimentary back to Grant and help in the return game?And yes...Grant delivered in FF playoff time for sure.