I'm trying to figure out if I left the Republican Party or did they leave me (1 Viewer)

[Guido Merkins]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican.  In general, I am a fiscal conservative and probably a social moderate.  

I got really into my Catholic faith about 12 years ago.  Most would think that would make me even more conservative, but I actually think those that have that experience are only cherry-picking what they want to believe. 

Pro-Life means not just being opposed to abortion for cute babies, but being against capital punishment for not-so-cute criminals. 

It means that I am a child of God with inherent human dignity, and so is the illegal immigrant.  So is the person who is attracted to the same biological sex or who thinks they are a different gender.  Sometimes I think the left goes too far on these issues, but the right forgets about human dignity and the love we are supposed to have for those different from us.  I think that God made us male and female and we should not shy away from that truth, however, those that disagree should be treated with love, not used as a political ploy.

It means that we SHOULD care about the planet that God has left us in charge for us.  I am not for crippling our economy to move away from fossil fuels, but I also don't get the hysteria over electric vehicles and I think those saying "it will never work" are like the guys selling buggy whips in the early 1900s saying cars would never work.  We need good solutions instead of the "it will never work" crowd,

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

The point is, I can't vote for most Democrats because of their views on abortion and several other issues, but increasingly, the Republicans seem like just a bunch of mean spirited wackos that hate people and information and truth.  People in the Republican Party who stand up to this nonsense are labeled as RINOs or censured.  

Anyway, did I leave it or as Reagan said about the Democrats, did they leave me??

 

[higgins]

John Boehner was accurate and succinct....

 

[Ruffrodys05]

My honest answer to you Guido is that they left you. This occured well before DJT came down the escalator. The Republican party is unrecognizable from my early 20's.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican. 

If you're a Reagan Republican, the party definitely left you behind.  Don't fret -- you're in great company.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

If you're a Reagan Republican, the party definitely left you behind.  Don't fret -- you're in great company.

What he said. 

 

[Chaz McNulty]

My honest answer to you Guido is that they left you. This occured well before DJT came down the escalator. The Republican party is unrecognizable from my early 20's.

I disagree on this part.  I think the party took a hard u-turn under Trump.

 

[Herb]

Today's Democratic party is probably ideologically much closer to being representative of a Reagan Republican than today’s Republican party.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

I disagree on this part.  I think the party took a hard u-turn under Trump.

Ok, I can see that but I think they were already in the midst of making that turn and DJT just grabbed the wheel and yanked hard.

 

[Bogart]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican.  In general, I am a fiscal conservative and probably a social moderate.  

I got really into my Catholic faith about 12 years ago.  Most would think that would make me even more conservative, but I actually think those that have that experience are only cherry-picking what they want to believe. 

Pro-Life means not just being opposed to abortion for cute babies, but being against capital punishment for not-so-cute criminals. 

It means that I am a child of God with inherent human dignity, and so is the illegal immigrant.  So is the person who is attracted to the same biological sex or who thinks they are a different gender.  Sometimes I think the left goes too far on these issues, but the right forgets about human dignity and the love we are supposed to have for those different from us.  I think that God made us male and female and we should not shy away from that truth, however, those that disagree should be treated with love, not used as a political ploy.

It means that we SHOULD care about the planet that God has left us in charge for us.  I am not for crippling our economy to move away from fossil fuels, but I also don't get the hysteria over electric vehicles and I think those saying "it will never work" are like the guys selling buggy whips in the early 1900s saying cars would never work.  We need good solutions instead of the "it will never work" crowd,

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

The point is, I can't vote for most Democrats because of their views on abortion and several other issues, but increasingly, the Republicans seem like just a bunch of mean spirited wackos that hate people and information and truth.  People in the Republican Party who stand up to this nonsense are labeled as RINOs or censured.  

Anyway, did I leave it or as Reagan said about the Democrats, did they leave me??

This is really, really well said. And hits really close to home. Thanks for sharing. As for an answer, I feel like both parties have lost a lot of people over the years. What I wouldn't give for a candidate that was a good person and wanted what was good for all Americans. But that's impossible I guess. 

 

[Ruffrodys05]

This is really, really well said. And hits really close to home. Thanks for sharing. As for an answer, I feel like both parties have lost a lot of people over the years. What I wouldn't give for a candidate that was a good person and wanted what was good for all Americans. But that's impossible I guess. 

This person would more than likely be an Independent and there is no room on the Presidential ballot for such a person. Nor is there room in either party. Yep, impossible. 

 

[dkp993]

This is really, really well said. And hits really close to home. Thanks for sharing. As for an answer, I feel like both parties have lost a lot of people over the years. What I wouldn't give for a candidate that was a good person and wanted what was good for all Americans. But that's impossible I guess. 

This person would more than likely be an Independent and there is no room on the Presidential ballot for such a person. Nor is there room in either party. Yep, impossible. 

100%.  I’ve felt politically homeless for almost a decade now, and the really scary part is I’m about as center/moderate as one can be.  When we’ve lost the middle the extremist are in control.  

 

[Guido Merkins]

My honest answer to you Guido is that they left you. This occured well before DJT came down the escalator. The Republican party is unrecognizable from my early 20's.

I sort of disagree.  I think both McCain and Romney were good men who may have made good Presidents.  Both of these men stood up to Trump when it was not politically expedient to do so....and were vilified by their own party.......for telling the truth

 

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ok, I can see that but I think they were already in the midst of making that turn and DJT just grabbed the wheel and yanked hard.

Agreed.  I feel bad for my conservative friends and family members who are good people and feel like their party has become one they do not even recognize.  

I am not a fan of Pelosi, but she appears to be yanking hard to keep people like Bernie Sanders and AOC from pulling the Democrat party too far in the other direction, but it's just a matter of time before she loses the grip. 

And I think cable news and social media can receive a big piece of the blame pie, as everything is now "you are either with us or against us" in regards to every issue and moderates and independents are left in no-man's land.  

 

[joffer]

I definitely left it, and then it lost its mind.

 

[dkp993]

I sort of disagree.  I think both McCain and Romney were good men who may have made good Presidents.  Both of these men stood up to Trump when it was not politically expedient to do so....and were vilified by their own party.......for telling the truth

 

The rise of the tea party is where I noticed the shift.  

 

[BigJim®]

My honest answer to you Guido is that they left you. This occured well before DJT came down the escalator. The Republican party is unrecognizable from my early 20's.

There is no fiscal Conservative party any longer. Hasn’t been for decades. Welcome to the island.

 

[timschochet]

I am not a fan of Pelosi, but she appears to be yanking hard to keep people like Bernie Sanders and AOC from pulling the Democrat party too far in the other direction, but it's just a matter of time before she loses the grip. 

She won’t because it’s not just her. 
 

The Democratic Party is funded by unions and corporations. These two groups will NEVER let socialist types take control of the party. It’s not going to happen. AOC and Bernie and the rest are loud, and growing louder, but they will never have real power. 

 

[quick-hands]

I definitely left it, and then it lost its mind.

Well what did u expect would happen.    Without you?

 

[lazyike]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican.  In general, I am a fiscal conservative and probably a social moderate.  

I got really into my Catholic faith about 12 years ago.  Most would think that would make me even more conservative, but I actually think those that have that experience are only cherry-picking what they want to believe. 

Pro-Life means not just being opposed to abortion for cute babies, but being against capital punishment for not-so-cute criminals. 

It means that I am a child of God with inherent human dignity, and so is the illegal immigrant.  So is the person who is attracted to the same biological sex or who thinks they are a different gender.  Sometimes I think the left goes too far on these issues, but the right forgets about human dignity and the love we are supposed to have for those different from us.  I think that God made us male and female and we should not shy away from that truth, however, those that disagree should be treated with love, not used as a political ploy.

It means that we SHOULD care about the planet that God has left us in charge for us.  I am not for crippling our economy to move away from fossil fuels, but I also don't get the hysteria over electric vehicles and I think those saying "it will never work" are like the guys selling buggy whips in the early 1900s saying cars would never work.  We need good solutions instead of the "it will never work" crowd,

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

The point is, I can't vote for most Democrats because of their views on abortion and several other issues, but increasingly, the Republicans seem like just a bunch of mean spirited wackos that hate people and information and truth.  People in the Republican Party who stand up to this nonsense are labeled as RINOs or censured.  

Anyway, did I leave it or as Reagan said about the Democrats, did they leave me??

Thanks for this great thread. You hit me where I live. I feel they left me. Both parties know they need to be a party of a big tent and accept members who are more moderate. It seems that both parties forget this but more so Republicans. Anyone who isn’t into the “weird adoration of one dude” is called a RINO.

I like hearing political commentators like Michael Steel, Bill Kristol, and Charlie Sykes. While I realize there will never be a politician I agree with100% I do like Murkowski and Romney although occasionally they disappoint me as well. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

She won’t because it’s not just her. 
 

The Democratic Party is funded by unions and corporations. These two groups will NEVER let socialist types take control of the party. It’s not going to happen. AOC and Bernie and the rest are loud, and growing louder, but they will never have real power. 

You might be right in the short term, but we will see in the long term.  It won't surprise me if we see a President AOC by 2032. 

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

The Tea Party v. Barack Obama, IMO, was really when established norms and traditions started eroding. Mitch declaring that the only goal was for Obama to serve only one term. Newt may have had some impact on this as well.

But what really sealed it, again IMO, was the party embracing Russia and Putin. Can any of us old enough to remember even imagine what Ronald Reagan would be thinking? 

 

[Herb]

 Can any of us old enough to remember even imagine what Ronald Reagan would be thinking? 

I'm old enough to remember that during his second term, there wasn't a helluva lot of thinking going on. You think ol' Joe has lost it, Reagan was practically a pickle by 1988. Still a decent speaker, but that was about it.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Probably a majority of the country doesn’t really feel comfortable with either party. At the fringes of both are legit lunatics. You’ve got one who is basically that dude in his mom’s basement thinking the world is a real life National Treasure movie. The other thinks we should print money into oblivion, everyone should be given $100,000 a year,  everyone’s debt should be wiped out and government is meant to be your parents. 

 

[The General]

Probably a majority of the country doesn’t really feel comfortable with either party. At the fringes of both are legit lunatics. You’ve got one who is basically that dude in his mom’s basement thinking the world is a real life National Treasure movie. The other thinks we should print money into oblivion, everyone should be given $100,000 a year,  everyone’s debt should be wiped out and government is meant to be your parents. 

 

[GroveDiesel]

What he said. 

If you're a Reagan Republican, the party definitely left you behind.  Don't fret -- you're in great company.

Have to say that there is some comfort in knowing that most of the posters on this board that I found myself mostly agreeing with and respecting even when we disagreed over the last 15+ years on this board find themselves in the same political wilderness as I do.

IMO, it’s time for a rebirth of the term Classic Liberal. Republican conservatives today are more nationalist with fascist tendencies and Democratic liberals are way too into social experimentation and control to truly carry the liberal label.

Classic liberalism that focuses on freedom and liberty but with an eye towards a respect for tradition, commitment towards society as a whole, and respect for each other has no political home and, IMO, that’s insanity to me because I think a huge number of people for this category even if many don’t realize it.

 

[Captain Cranks]

This is really, really well said. And hits really close to home. Thanks for sharing. As for an answer, I feel like both parties have lost a lot of people over the years. What I wouldn't give for a candidate that was a good person and wanted what was good for all Americans. But that's impossible I guess. 

This is John Kasich for me. Unfortunately the majority of Republicans don't vote for decent people anymore. 

 

[timschochet]

You might be right in the short term, but we will see in the long term.  It won't surprise me if we see a President AOC by 2032. 

That has never happened in modern times. As of 2022 the Republicans are the only ones who have allowed an extremist to be their nominee. The Democrats certainly have some crazy types but so far they’ve prevented them from having any power. 

 

[shadrap]

when you have to pay people to get their vote we are screwed.  57% of taxpayers pay no taxes.  everyone should have skin in the game somehow but it appears that to get votes it is okay.  lazy?  so what, we will help you out.  hard work & finding a job, any job has left this country a long time ago.  now it's what can you do for me.

lot of people that wrote our constitution are rolling in their grave right now.  it has not become what you can do for your country.  it has become what your country can do for you.  

pathetic.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Agreed.  I feel bad for my conservative friends and family members who are good people and feel like their party has become one they do not even recognize.  

I am not a fan of Pelosi, but she appears to be yanking hard to keep people like Bernie Sanders and AOC from pulling the Democrat party too far in the other direction, but it's just a matter of time before she loses the grip. 

And I think cable news and social media can receive a big piece of the blame pie, as everything is now "you are either with us or against us" in regards to every issue and moderates and independents are left in no-man's land.  

I agree with all this, but there isn't any blame on the rest of us in this post, and that needs to be included.  

 

[glvsav37]

Being born in '74 my political learning's were heavy in Regan/Bush 1 era, then shaped in the Clinton era as I was older and thought I understood more. And while I cant give you an clearly educated, topic by topic breakdown of what Regan stood for as a president, what I do remember is 2 things:

1. As a nation, there was a ton more national pride shown overall. 

2. Elections were basically runaways. 

I may be wrong but didn't Regan get like 90% of the vote once? I mean we are looking at the slimmest of margins and really working the electoral college to its last vote in the last few elections. And we just feel so divided as a nation because of it. 

It seems like bipartisanship was much more the norm back then, the old "get in a room and work it out" mentality vs the current throw the other party under the bus at any cost. 

I am still a republican, but barely. I want to start a movement around being "more purple" meaning the blending of red and blue. But moreover I long for the days when people could openly discuss politics without a fight. 

 

[fruity pebbles]

when you have to pay people to get their vote we are screwed.  57% of taxpayers pay no taxes.  everyone should have skin in the game somehow but it appears that to get votes it is okay.  lazy?  so what, we will help you out.  hard work & finding a job, any job has left this country a long time ago.  now it's what can you do for me.

lot of people that wrote our constitution are rolling in their grave right now.  it has not become what you can do for your country.  it has become what your country can do for you.  

pathetic.

And spend it as fast as they get it, on garbage no less. Same people who were broke before the stimulus checks, extra $600 a week unemployment checks, not having to pay rent or their mortgage for over a year etc etc are the same people who are broke again now. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

when you have to pay people to get their vote we are screwed.  57% of taxpayers pay no taxes.  everyone should have skin in the game somehow but it appears that to get votes it is okay.  lazy?  so what, we will help you out.  hard work & finding a job, any job has left this country a long time ago.  now it's what can you do for me.

lot of people that wrote our constitution are rolling in their grave right now.  it has not become what you can do for your country.  it has become what your country can do for you.  

pathetic.

I say let's start reversing this trend with corporations and churches first.  

 

[fruity pebbles]

I say let's start reversing this trend with corporations and churches first.  

100% fine with that. It doesn’t have to be an either or. 

 

[timschochet]

I don’t think people that are very poor should pay income taxes. 
 

Also it’s complete BS to claim they pay no taxes. They more than make up for income tax in sales tax. 

 

[timschochet]

And spend it as fast as they get it, on garbage no less. Same people who were broke before the stimulus checks, extra $600 a week unemployment checks, not having to pay rent or their mortgage for over a year etc etc are the same people who are broke again now. 

I want them to spend it quickly, that’s good for the economy. And for taxation. 

 

[lazyike]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican.  In general, I am a fiscal conservative and probably a social moderate.  

I got really into my Catholic faith about 12 years ago.  Most would think that would make me even more conservative, but I actually think those that have that experience are only cherry-picking what they want to believe. 

Pro-Life means not just being opposed to abortion for cute babies, but being against capital punishment for not-so-cute criminals. 

It means that I am a child of God with inherent human dignity, and so is the illegal immigrant.  So is the person who is attracted to the same biological sex or who thinks they are a different gender.  Sometimes I think the left goes too far on these issues, but the right forgets about human dignity and the love we are supposed to have for those different from us.  I think that God made us male and female and we should not shy away from that truth, however, those that disagree should be treated with love, not used as a political ploy.

It means that we SHOULD care about the planet that God has left us in charge for us.  I am not for crippling our economy to move away from fossil fuels, but I also don't get the hysteria over electric vehicles and I think those saying "it will never work" are like the guys selling buggy whips in the early 1900s saying cars would never work.  We need good solutions instead of the "it will never work" crowd,

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

The point is, I can't vote for most Democrats because of their views on abortion and several other issues, but increasingly, the Republicans seem like just a bunch of mean spirited wackos that hate people and information and truth.  People in the Republican Party who stand up to this nonsense are labeled as RINOs or censured.  

Anyway, did I leave it or as Reagan said about the Democrats, did they leave me??

Might I suggest RAP (The Republican Accountability Project) they have a Facebook page. Or Bulwark podcasts with Bill Kristol. I think you may enjoy both.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I want them to spend it quickly, that’s good for the economy. And for taxation. 

yeah it’s great. they’re back to being broke and needing assistance, economically we just delayed the inevitable and due to the avalanche of debt that was printed, we now have +10% inflation. 

 

[GordonGekko]

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

https://gop.com/republican-platform-audit/

The Republican National Committee

2022 Republican Party Platform Audit:

1) Election Integrity

2) Regaining Control of Congress

3) Fixing Inflation & The Failing Economy

4) School Reopenings

5) Vaccine & Mask Mandates

6) Biden's Border Crisis

7) Rising Crime in Democrat Cities

Job Creation

9) Protection of Constitutional Rights

10) Big Tech Censorship

11) Exposing Biden's Radical Agenda

*****

Tim,

If the FBG Staff here wants to just tolerate your numerous number of aliases, well that's their decision. I generally don't discuss people's aliases but the sheer number of them you use as a form a proxy attack, sea lioning and logical fallacy bombing is staggering.

The Republican Party is not a monolith. It's very diverse. The Conservative base is not a monolith. It too is very diverse. Lumping everyone together with just enough language in front to massage around the rules here is just an easy way to attack the general Conservative viewpoint. It's easy if you castigate everyone who disagrees with you into a very narrow window that operates as a target rich environment for the woke fringe radical left.

It's gotten pretty desperate if you had to use your Love Beatles alias to take some shots here.

The Republican platform is not a secret. It's listed above.

A combination of many of those issues is why the Democratic Party lost Virginia and how a true political zero like Glenn Youngkin got into office. Here's what matters for 2022 Mid Terms and the 2024 general cycle - Suburban women voters and working class minority voters don't agree with you. Not one single bit. It's beyond the polling, which is still cooked. The core of the establishment Democrats plus the Progressives are impacting everyday people at the grocery store, in basic goods and services, at the gas pump and are watching their kids get used as pawns in the widespread school/educational nightmare of the last couple of years.

Suburban women voters can be mostly classified as a transient type of voting block.

However working class minority voters create huge risks of the current Democratic Party losing LEGACY VOTES across multiple future cycles.

The military vote is also a type of legacy voting block that could take the disaster in Afghanistan as a point of no return and cost the Democratic Party for the next 5 full general cycles.

This isn't even accounting the near purposeful incitement of the Jewish establishment in America by many brand name elements of the Democratic Party. That ripples into staggering losses in Big Finance and Hollywood.

There will almost certainly be staggering losses from the White Evangelical vote, that created a massive push/pull in 2020, starting at the Southern Border states

I've laid out the Republican Party current platform. It's not a secret. No one is making it a secret. You are not addressing any of them with actual substance. Key voting blocks that the Democratic Party can't afford to lose don't agree with you.

The practical swing buffer for current polling, if I factor in data from actual aggregated EScores across the cross section of at risk voting blocks, is 4-6. That means if the Republicans are up 3 points in the polling, odds are they are really up 7-9 points. If the Republicans are shown down 6 points against Democrats in some districts, that means it could be a pure dead heat. Big surprise, if you keep telling half the country that they are cult like racists and bigots and xenophobes and that you'll threaten their careers and how they feed their kids because they have a different opinion, those people aren't going to want talk to some stranger via a cold call about their personal politics. Whowouldathunkit?

Nate Silver and 538 can say whatever he wants. The coming Mid Terms and the 2024 cycle will be an all out massacre against Team Blue. All of Team Blue, even the ones who had nothing to do with the disaster zone of this current administration and it's policies.

Tim, you have you free speech. I won't take that from you. But the key voting blocks that are going to actually matter in coming elections don't agree with you. This is not some small minority, major shares of critical voting blocks won't agree with nor believe one single word you say.

Your behavior in general is proof of life that high value posting and actions that enrich the community are not actually rewarded here in the PSF.

Feel free to actually address the real Republican Party platform.

 

[timschochet]

https://gop.com/republican-platform-audit/

The Republican National Committee

2022 Republican Party Platform Audit:

1) Election Integrity

2) Regaining Control of Congress

3) Fixing Inflation & The Failing Economy

4) School Reopenings

5) Vaccine & Mask Mandates

6) Biden's Border Crisis

7) Rising Crime in Democrat Cities

Job Creation

9) Protection of Constitutional Rights

10) Big Tech Censorship

11) Exposing Biden's Radical Agenda

*****

Tim,

If the FBG Staff here wants to just tolerate your numerous number of aliases, well that's their decision. I generally don't discuss people's aliases but the sheer number of them you use as a form a proxy attack, sea lioning and logical fallacy bombing is staggering.

The Republican Party is not a monolith. It's very diverse. The Conservative base is not a monolith. It too is very diverse. Lumping everyone together with just enough language in front to massage around the rules here is just an easy way to attack the general Conservative viewpoint. It's easy if you castigate everyone who disagrees with you into a very narrow window that operates as a target rich environment for the woke fringe radical left.

It's gotten pretty desperate if you had to use your Love Beatles alias to take some shots here.

The Republican platform is not a secret. It's listed above.

A combination of many of those issues is why the Democratic Party lost Virginia and how a true political zero like Glenn Youngkin got into office. Here's what matters for 2022 Mid Terms and the 2024 general cycle - Suburban women voters and working class minority voters don't agree with you. Not one single bit. It's beyond the polling, which is still cooked. The core of the establishment Democrats plus the Progressives are impacting everyday people at the grocery store, in basic goods and services, at the gas pump and are watching their kids get used as pawns in the widespread school/educational nightmare of the last couple of years.

Suburban women voters can be mostly classified as a transient type of voting block.

However working class minority voters create huge risks of the current Democratic Party losing LEGACY VOTES across multiple future cycles.

The military vote is also a type of legacy voting block that could take the disaster in Afghanistan as a point of no return and cost the Democratic Party for the next 5 full general cycles.

This isn't even accounting the near purposeful incitement of the Jewish establishment in America by many brand name elements of the Democratic Party. That ripples into staggering losses in Big Finance and Hollywood.

There will almost certainly be staggering losses from the White Evangelical vote, that created a massive push/pull in 2020, starting at the Southern Border states

I've laid out the Republican Party current platform. It's not a secret. No one is making it a secret. You are not addressing any of them with actual substance. Key voting blocks that the Democratic Party can't afford to lose don't agree with you.

The practical swing buffer for current polling, if I factor in data from actual aggregated EScores across the cross section of at risk voting blocks, is 4-6. That means if the Republicans are up 3 points in the polling, odds are they are really up 7-9 points. If the Republicans are shown down 6 points against Democrats in some districts, that means it could be a pure dead heat. Big surprise, if you keep telling half the country that they are cult like racists and bigots and xenophobes and that you'll threaten their careers and how they feed their kids because they have a different opinion, those people aren't going to want talk to some stranger via a cold call about their personal politics. Whowouldathunkit?

Nate Silver and 538 can say whatever he wants. The coming Mid Terms and the 2024 cycle will be an all out massacre against Team Blue. All of Team Blue, even the ones who had nothing to do with the disaster zone of this current administration and it's policies.

Tim, you have you free speech. I won't take that from you. But the key voting blocks that are going to actually matter in coming elections don't agree with you. This is not some small minority, major shares of critical voting blocks won't agree with nor believe one single word you say.

Your behavior in general is proof of life that high value posting and actions that enrich the community are not actually rewarded here in the PSF.

Feel free to actually address the real Republican Party platform.

Lol you are obsessed. It’s a little disturbing. 
 

For the record I had some aliases about 10 years ago, haven’t used them since. The OP is not my alias. 

 

[Herb]

I for one enjoy reading long-winded,  condescending diatribes composed from the highest reaches of the soapbox and intended to castigate someone else over "high value posting."

 

[dkp993]

I for one enjoy reading long-winded,  condescending diatribes composed from the highest reaches of the soapbox and intended to castigate someone else over "high value posting."

I especially like it when they are also preaching that the survival of all mankind hinges on a recall vote or lecturing on what all women's true intentions really all.  That’s true entertainment.  

 

[GordonGekko]

I for one enjoy reading long-winded,  condescending diatribes composed from the highest reaches of the soapbox and intended to castigate someone else over "high value posting."

3) Fixing Inflation & The Failing Economy

4) School Reopenings

5) Vaccine & Mask Mandates

7) Rising Crime in Democrat Cities

Let's start with these, actual issues from the GOP's current political platform.

While the current Democratic Party is constantly engaging in this "culture war" and deciding on pronouns and how to use them and who should play in what kind of sports and what bathrooms to use and making sure there's equity and diversity at all costs, it managed to declare open war on parents.

Not just Conservative parents. Not just moderate parents. Not just traditional liberal parents. Not just Progressive parents. Not just Black parents. Not just white parents. Not just LGBT parents. All parents.

Defund The Police + Unchecked looting and rioting in 2020 and into 2021 + a swinging gate at the Southern Border + insane "bail reform" that allows career criminals to be let loose + actually bailing out these criminals + cooked public policy by Soros supported DAs to hyper drive attacks against actual businesses that serve the community at large + non stop Identity Politics + Telling people there will be more and more push for gun restrictions and stricter gun laws = You and your children are just prey.

Then lock downs and keeping kids out of school. And the ensuing chaos when parents realize that most of the school districts had no plan, no structure, no leadership, no solutions. While all still getting paid to take a long vacation.

Suburban soccer moms seeing prices spike at the gas station. At at the grocery store. And all basic needs. Women in America disproportionately control the purse strings and are often the primary financial decision makers for consumer goods in family households.

Did the Republican Party "leave" some voters behind? People can argue that if they wish.

But that's not what's going to happen at the voting booth for the 2022 Mid Terms and the 2024 general cycle. What's going to happen is the public backlash about why the current administration and the current Democratic Party LEFT AMERICAN CHILDREN BEHIND.  That's what happens when insane public policy and incompetence means parents fear if their children will have food or not, if they will walk on streets that are safe or not, and if they will have a way to get basic education or not.

The GOP doesn't need to work very hard to come up with a basic political platform against the current Democratic Party. How hard can it be with scandal after scandal and disaster after disaster with THREE MORE YEARS COMING OF THIS ENDLESS CHAOS. Shouting about J6, culture wars, "identity politics", Ant-Vaxxers and alleged cultists doesn't solve the problem of masses of upset American parents not seeing any light at the end of this tunnel.

This isn't hard. IF YOU CREATE CONSISTENT AND RELENTLESS THREAT POINTS AGAINST PEOPLE'S CHILDREN, THEY AREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU.

 

[Nugget]

when you have to pay people to get their vote we are screwed.  57% of taxpayers pay no taxes.  everyone should have skin in the game somehow but it appears that to get votes it is okay.  lazy?  so what, we will help you out.  hard work & finding a job, any job has left this country a long time ago.  now it's what can you do for me.

lot of people that wrote our constitution are rolling in their grave right now.  it has not become what you can do for your country.  it has become what your country can do for you.  

pathetic.

So you are talking about federal income tax?  Not property tax, sales tax, social security, Medicare, vehicle taxes, gasoline taxes. Just want to make sure I understand which free loaders we are calling out. 
 

 

[Yo Mama]

This is really, really well said. And hits really close to home. Thanks for sharing. As for an answer, I feel like both parties have lost a lot of people over the years. What I wouldn't give for a candidate that was a good person and wanted what was good for all Americans. But that's impossible I guess. 

I know this probably opening up a can of worms, (not trying to call you out, but I’m honestly curious) what has Biden done to make you think he’s not a good person who wants what’s good for all Americans. 
 

There are plenty of people on both ends of the political spectrum not fully on board with his policies or approach, but at the very least he seems like he is a good person doing what he thinks is best for all Americans (not just those in blue states/areas). 
 

I’d equate him to someone like Romney, who I don’t agree with too much politically, but who I think is a good person doing what he thinks is right for the country. 
 

I’d think Biden fits pretty closely to the OPs worldview personally, with just a different viewpoint on how the government should protect/regulate/represent those views. 
 

And before I get called a radical lefty, I’m also a former registered republican (switched to independent early 00s). 
 

Thanks for the thoughtful post Guido. 

 

[Philo Beddoe]

I know this probably opening up a can of worms, (not trying to call you out, but I’m honestly curious) what has Biden done to make you think he’s not a good person who wants what’s good for all Americans. 
 

There are plenty of people on both ends of the political spectrum not fully on board with his policies or approach, but at the very least he seems like he is a good person doing what he thinks is best for all Americans (not just those in blue states/areas). 
 

I’d equate him to someone like Romney, who I don’t agree with too much politically, but who I think is a good person doing what he thinks is right for the country. 
 

I’d think Biden fits pretty closely to the OPs worldview personally, with just a different viewpoint on how the government should protect/regulate/represent those views. 
 

And before I get called a radical lefty, I’m also a former registered republican (switched to independent early 00s). 
 

Thanks for the thoughtful post Guido. 

Good people don’t strap dogs to the roof of their car for 12 hours.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

What happened to the Libertarian party and why is that not an option for some of you? I haven’t voted R/D ever.

 

[The Commish]

I am a lifelong Republican.  A Reagan Republican.  In general, I am a fiscal conservative and probably a social moderate.  

I got really into my Catholic faith about 12 years ago.  Most would think that would make me even more conservative, but I actually think those that have that experience are only cherry-picking what they want to believe. 

Pro-Life means not just being opposed to abortion for cute babies, but being against capital punishment for not-so-cute criminals. 

It means that I am a child of God with inherent human dignity, and so is the illegal immigrant.  So is the person who is attracted to the same biological sex or who thinks they are a different gender.  Sometimes I think the left goes too far on these issues, but the right forgets about human dignity and the love we are supposed to have for those different from us.  I think that God made us male and female and we should not shy away from that truth, however, those that disagree should be treated with love, not used as a political ploy.

It means that we SHOULD care about the planet that God has left us in charge for us.  I am not for crippling our economy to move away from fossil fuels, but I also don't get the hysteria over electric vehicles and I think those saying "it will never work" are like the guys selling buggy whips in the early 1900s saying cars would never work.  We need good solutions instead of the "it will never work" crowd,

It also means that I am concerned with truth and it seems to me that a good portion of the Republican Party's platform these days is a conspiracy theory or a dog whistle.  Non existent voter fraud, ingesting medicines that don't work instead of the actual vaccine which does, gas prices being a plot to get us away from oil, cancel culture being the enemy...unless it's a boycott on the NFL for supporting their players.  The list could go on and on.

The point is, I can't vote for most Democrats because of their views on abortion and several other issues, but increasingly, the Republicans seem like just a bunch of mean spirited wackos that hate people and information and truth.  People in the Republican Party who stand up to this nonsense are labeled as RINOs or censured.  

Anyway, did I leave it or as Reagan said about the Democrats, did they leave me??

They absolutely left you.  This isn't even a debate at this point.  There's a bunch of people being left sitting in the middle as the GOP is in full sprint mode and the Dems in warm up mode.

 

[KarmaPolice]

What happened to the Libertarian party and why is that not an option for some of you? I haven’t voted R/D ever.

Some of them are a bit kooky too.   Usually how I vote, though.  

 

[timschochet]

What happened to the Libertarian party and why is that not an option for some of you? I haven’t voted R/D ever.

I was a member,  30 years ago. Back then their motto was “free trade and open immigration.” They were also strongly pro-choice. 
 

If that was still the premise I might still belong. But these days it’s libertarian in name only. They care more about limitations on soft drink sizes than they do about capitalism. 

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I may be wrong but didn't Regan get like 90% of the vote once? 

If you’re talking popular vote, not even close.  Got 50% in 1980 and 59% in 1984.